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Thanks. I'd have to go back and re-watch, but I think Carole may have even said she knows she didn't write about the jeep/scratch so it'd be interesting if it was in her book. Maybe her book was ghostwritten after all! I kid, I kid...

Was the info about the jeep/scratch common knowledge? Carole said she never talked about that, so just wondering.

Great points shoegal. The repeat sentiment from Carole and Heather that all would have been fine if Ramona was in bed with the guy shows that they are full of it about the safety issues. I'm sure a drunk, passed out Ramona would have protected Carole and Heather from getting stabbed or their things getting stolen. If Ramona was in the bed with him, awake, I'm sure she could persuade him not to be violent and psycho!

Hopefully with Heather gone, Carole will follow. She brings nothing to the show. She also can slide in really nasty comments (like catching LuAnn being the worst thing to ever see - no Carole, catching you in the act would be much much worse). Funny how Ms. Wannabe Carrie Bradshaw is all about being free spirited and cool, until her BFF aka master tells her that she should be angry about the guy sleeping over and then she flips out about something she never even saw firsthand. I really hope Heather is gone. I've never liked her. She always has that creepy smile on her face and she is the fakest of all the housewives IMO. Super self-righteous and arrogant - and has no story to offer - please remove her from my screen.

Was Heather desperate for camera time or is she naturally a drama queen? Did not understand her reaction at all and IMO what she did was way worse than anything Ramona or LuAnn did. So what a hook up slept over? She was acting psychotic. Also, Carole is incapable of independent thought and just followed/mimicked Heather like a puppy. These two don't bring anything to the table IMO. Hope they're gone next year. And I don't care if LuAnn likes to sleep with a different man every night. Heather is a horrible friend and her real problem was LuAnn and Ramona having one night stands.

In terms of the private cell phone number thing - I was thinking that maybe to Shannon (or all of the housewives) it is more important to her that her number be private than the average person because she is a Bravolebrity. I half wonder if Shannon was thinking of the incident where Tamra posted Lizzie's phone number on Facebook and Lizzie had to change her number. Meghan is horrible. She was trying so hard and seems like a mean person. And not an entertaining mean person. I really don't get the big deal. Shannon may not have been very nice to her during the call, but nothing really happened during that call. Meghan's anger was crazy.

I still love Shannon. She is sabatoging herself but there is something real about her that I enjoy. My least favorite is Meghan. She just kept picking and picking at Shannon. I didn't even think Shannon was rude during the call. So what, she didn't call Meghan back. That hardly merited Meghan reacting the way she did.

I clicked on the link for Kristen's nail polish. At first glance, I thought the bottles said poop of color.

I don't follow the wives on social media, but I do visit realitytea and I remember seeing a lot of happy pictures of Shannon and David over the past year. Is that pre affair or what?

Great points! The stuff you mentioned really bothered me as well. I get that they don't want to do a year and a half of Meredith being depressed, but the audience needed to mourn too. Derek has been on the show since the beginning. We have seen him for more than eleven years. And again, I am by no means a big Derek fan. I have never liked Meredith/Derek and I think Derek can be a jerk a lot of times. But, even I needed way more than what they gave me. They didn't let me mourn. They were like "eh it's inconvenient for us to go through the emotion of this so let's just skip ahead." It was so disrespectful IMO. You don't want to dwell on it, okay, don't but you can do an episode. One episode. Also, I just don't like the time jump. I don't feel like what happened was real in that Grey's universe. I didn't really get to see it/feel it. I know it's not fanfic, but that's basically how I see it.

No one even cried over Derek really. We have had extras/ransoms die and receive more attention! I mean what the hell was that?? I am not even a big Derek fan but what????

That was horrible. It was like a dream episode minus it all being a dream. None of that felt like it really happened. Cool Meredith gave birth to like a 20 pound baby. Why the hell did they skip over the emotional fallout? It is like they intentionally did the shittiest and coldest way to deal with Derek being dead. What was that? No seriously what was that?

I am only about 20 minutes in but what the fuck?? Did they just skip over everyone's reactions to Derek's death?? It is like they zapped all the emotion from it and just spliced together a bunch of choppy scenes about random shit. Umm.......what is this?? Is this all a dream?? This is so bad I'm wondering if it is a dream.

I haven't felt that much second hand embarrassment in a really long time as I did watching Asa's skit.

Well no because the hacks at this hospital saw his nasty head wound and thought "hmm well let's open him up and take a look at his leg. His head will be fine if we just wrap a bandaid around it. Let's not rush though and we don't have to try our hardest because he's just a regular person and not a doctor!"

Um wtf? I love how they doctors are all "eh I don't want to work on this patient. What? He's a doctor. A surgeon?? Well in that case, let's actually try!" Meredith was way too calm. She should have flipped her shit. Derek just saw a car accident and he did that in the car? Why can't people just leave on this show? Always with the death. And I know Derek was brain dead but shit, can't they spare a bed for 24 hours? Like wtf was that? "Hi ma'am. Your husband is brain dead as of five minutes ago. Please pull the plug in the next hour so we can use his bed. Thx." Derek really is supernatural. Even while under anesthesia, his subconscious is schooling the doctors operating on him.

Didn't the footage close to confirm what GG said? I know they didn't show them in his room, but still. That guy asked horrible questions for the polygraph. What a hack. He asked two different questions and was like "wtf why didn't you answer the same?" Plus, why was he so pissy? She is a paying customer, why didn't he let her do it again? So weird. Is that Jessica's uncle or something? Jk

Does Emma know that Caleb raped Norma? If so, her hug did not fit IMO. I'm a little confused about the whole Norma/Caleb thing. I mean, I realize the situation was complicated and Caleb was also in an abusive household and perhaps a minor himself, but if Norma's friends and family believe her, then how can they be okay having a long family dinner with the guy? Knowing that he hurt someone they love so badly, wouldn't it be really repulsive to sit down and have tea with him? It's one thing (and healthy) for Norma and those in her life to not harbor intense and active hatred for Caleb, but that doesn't mean they have to have family dinners. I realize Norma made the call and she didn't suggest that they'd be doing this all the time, I just kind of expect people around her to have a bit more of a reaction when they have to make nice with her rapist. Everyone basically just brushes over it (except Norman, but he's psycho with everyone).

How in the world has Andy not talked about Brandi talking about Kim all around town? That was a major part of the show and he doesn't address it and show all of the clips? Huh? Maybe it is coming, but I'm doubtful. Why wouldn't he ask about that? Why is he not asking Kim or Brandi any tough questions? If he is personally biased then someone else should host.

After seeing the first look and the clip of Kyle and Kim about the dog bite, I feel like I don't even know the proper words to express what a vile and disgusting "human" Kim is. All I can say is, Kyle, I don't know you and will never see you but I am so sorry I didn't like you because you outed your sister in the limo. After dealing with her for 40 plus years, I cannot even imagine the horrible shit you have dealt with. What you did was nothing.

Why does Jason live in the apartment and not Bethenny?

Assuming Yo is not a housewife next year and Kim and Brandi come back, the other women need to just ignore them. Don't give them attention and they will have no story. And then they'll be gone the following year. Much easier to say than do I know, but they should try to severely limit filming with Brandi and Kim.

Kim is fucking horrible. Take Tamra, Jill, Vicki, Nene, Teresa, and Kelly and you still don't get anywhere near Kim's level of nastiness. Tamra probably comes closest, but I don't think even that witch is as evil as Kim. I mean Kim is just gross. The way she speaks to people, her smug bitch face, her lies, how horrible she is to her own family...just wow. Please get her off the show. Enough of satan on my tv, thanks.

When we saw Mike "work" for five minutes you just know that his coworkers were all "haha here is the fake employee."

Jessica is a psycho. She just kept chanting "I'm going to be a wife!!" It wasn't so much about Mike, but about marrying someone. And that's sort of pathetic. If that was her only goal perhaps she should have aimed higher. I also don't like the way that Jessica repeatedly says "those people." I know she is with a persian man, so the phrase likely isn't ethnically motivated, but it really rubs me the wrong way. Mike definitely did it. All of his talking heads are like "I just don't get why GG waited so long to say this!" If she was just making shit up, what he wouldn't get would be her making shit up, not the timing. The way he phrased it made it very unlikely IMO that he didn't do anything. GG alluded to there being footage, so maybe they will show something more and the talking heads were taped after they confronted him with the footage.