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So the only thing remotely interesting to me was Meghan saying she was Tweeted info about Kelly having a boyfriend, which I can totally believe. Then Kelly retaliating saying Jim had a mistress, which I can also believe. Well, maybe a mister but something is going on with him and all of his trips out of town. If Peggy is supposed to be a way for Vicki to redeem herself and show how loving she is towards cancer patients, um, no. Move along Bravo, that dog won't hunt.

There's no middle ground. There's no hey we were all hurt let's get over it. No. Vicki lied about Brooks having cancer and was trying to claim he was cured by drinking juice. When the other women wouldn't play along with that disgusting scam Vicki attacked their character and husbands. Then kept doubling down on it while claiming she was victim of bullying??!! All the while using rat racist Kelly as her attack dog. Tamra and Shannon are in no way like Vicki in this situation. And how dare Lydia try to say since they were friends before they need to forgive. Being friends actually makes it worse. To have real feelings for someone and have them betray you is extremely hurtful.

Fuck right off Lydia, Shannon is highly emotional but she was not "screaming" at you. Fuck right off Lydia for even insinuating that Shannon and Vicki's actions are in any way comparable. Fuck right off Lydia for insulting Shannon because she was standing up for herself. Is defending the cancer scammer and liar the hill you want to die on? Good luck with all that.

The first look featured smug Vicki and awful Kelly sitting in the Con Artist's office. They talk trash about Tamra and Shannon being mean to Vicki and needing to apologize to her. Then Vicki says "they're not the popular girls, we're the popular girls. They want to be like us and they can't be." I don't know how I'm going to survive this season if I have to listen to this shit.

I love how nobody can make a remark about the rumors for years around gossip sites that Clooney is gay. Didn't Bethenny and Carole call Tom gay because he was a bachelor with broken engagements? I mean, first he was a womanizer dating a slut whore gold digger. Then Tom was broke so the slut whore gold digger wasn't a very good gold digger. Plus his penthouse wasn't that great anyway. Then he was gay. And all their fans laughed and laughed at this exchange of the slut whore gold digger getting what she deserved by marrying a broke gay man womanizer that she needed to use a strap on with. But don't talk ever about Clooney! Weird.

I agree. Bethenny or her social media manager can post whatever pictures they want to control her image but she's truly one of the most miserable people around. There have been rumors about Clooney being gay for years. It's not something that was made up by so called Carole haters on this board. You can go to any celebrity gossip site and read up on it.

You're forgetting Vicki and Brooks were trying to sell cancer cleansing juice. They wore hats and brought the woman who owns the company around Housewives events on camera. Hell, she was with Vicki at the finale party and in the limo. They were not trying to keep it private. They wanted to talk about how sick Brooks was, how the chemo wasn't working and how this amazing juice was helping him. That's why the other women wanted the truth to come out. That's why Heather was appalled by the Terry IV drip lie because Vicki was trying to use that as "proof" that Brooks was sick. Vicki expected them all to vouch for the story and then marvel at his recovery so they could make some cash off the hopes and desperation of people watching the show looking for anything to help beat cancer.

Is Camille going to come back and be authentic or is it publicist coached Camille? Adrienne looks horrific. Stop with the plastic surgery already!

Yay!!

There's no redeeming Vicki...ever. I don't care how Bravo tries to spin it. I don't care how much it's going to be discussed as Shannon not being able to "get over it" or "move on" or "let the past in the past" or whatever the fuck. I can already anticipate the comments from viewers who are tired of "the cancer storyline" and don't want to hear about it anymore. Tough shit. What that woman and her scammer boyfriend tried to do was one of the most morally offensive low down dirty stunts that I've ever seen. The gall to try to take advantage and profit off of people suffering from cancer is incomprehensible to me. Vicki should not be given a platform on this show. No cute scenes with her grandsons. No Vicki being Vicki Woo Hoo whooping it up. Nothing. She deserves to rot. There are lines that no decent human being would ever dream of crossing.

Wait. I thought it was bad when Bethenny and her minions were calling Luann a slut gold digging whore. Then they switched it up that Tom was broke and looking for a Sugar Momma. Plus his penthouse isn't really that great, here's the floorplan to prove it. Prior to the wedding Bethenny and her minions wanted everyone to know that Tom was having sex with every available woman in NYC. Now that they're married suddenly he's gay and Luann uses a strap on? Better yet he's gay because he's 50 and had broken engagements? Really, Carole? What a bunch of ridiculously bitter hags. Pick a lane because you look desperate and bitter. Luann seems happy and living her life as she sees fit.

I thought Meghan confirmed months ago she wasn't coming back. So it looks like this season will be dark and viscous just like last time with drunk racist Kelly. Sigh.

Bethenny was "crying" with no tears as usual. I'm surprised she didn't ask someone to hand her a bottle of Skinnygirl vodka like last season to complete the scene. Luann handled the coordinated attack very well. The more calm, cool and gracious she was the more upset they all got. I love it. She was giving good advice to Bethenny but what would Bethenny be if not a victim of everyone?

This is now a dating show and it's not very entertaining. I beg the producers to recast for next season. Find some women who are actually married with children and show their home life. Ramona, Sonja, Bethenny and Carole can be "friends of" and only show up at parties. In between cringeworthy flirting scenes we get the usual Skinny Girl promotion, Bethenny's real estate shilling for a new show and she managed to slip in a nugget that her married boyfriend wanted her all during his marriage. Um...perhaps she should refrain from attacking the character of Tom and John? Cause honestly, her choice of mate is no better.

So now she won't be returning next season, right?? Right?? Pretty please with a skinnygirl cherry on top??

Sonja's disgusting with her dogs shitting everywhere, dirty water, farting all the time and grungy musty townhouse. It's not cute or quirky. It's gross and unsanitary.

I'm a little surprised that Carole's Mom had never met Adam. I would actually love to see Adam's family on the show to find out how they feel about Carole.

I think people need to stop with the knee jerk reaction that Mom's are automatically better. However Andre still needs to get a job since the kids are in school.

Full custody means the children would live with him and Towanda would get visitation? From what they've shown from previous seasons Towanda was the working "absentee" parent due to traveling so I'm not sure why this is a shocking development.

Lu would say she's dating and having fun. Just because she didn't say, "Why yes Bethenney, your holiness, I'm a huge fucking whore" doesn't mean she's a hypocrite. She just didn't call herself any derogatory names as well she shouldn't have.

I didn't really think the dollar store looking bunny return was such a big deal. It's nothing to get outraged about because I don't think Rinna truly gives a damn about Kim and her 'reaction' was a soap opera acting moment.

What did Sonja say about Dorinda and John? She's already publicly accused her of drug abuse. What else is left? Dorinda won't even drink a martini because she's preparing for battle! Are they being accused of murder or something?

I can't stand Ramona but thank God these women are not afraid of Bethenny anymore. As she raged at each of them since coming back they've just sat back and taken it. She's not the Queen of the show and it's about time she's called out too. I still can't get over how she faked a storyline about being single and alone when she had a longtime accused rapist boyfriend. The hell with that fake bitch.

Rinna doesn't like Kim point blank period. She's still angry about what happened in Amsterdam. She openly gloated, mocked and laughed when Kim kept getting arrested. Then she still tried to claim that her intentions were pure, honest and good. Then the second she realized Kim wasn't going to apologize she went for the arrest jugular on camera. Then added to that by trying to use Eden to push the Kim's on the verge of death angle. That's a huge accusation to make. That's simply a terrible thing to do when you claim how wonderful you are. Rinna can't throw low blow after low blow and think a fucking bunny is going to make it all better. And this is coming from someone who cheered her on when she smashed that glass.

This is what Andy used to do with Brandi. He'd make her out to be the victim, throw softball questions at her, read 'fake' questions from Lynn in New Jersey attacking the other women and then try to shame them for not forgiving Brandi's awful behavior. But even with all that protection Brandi still showed her true evil and bitter colors. Same is true with Rinna and Erika. He can try to prop them up all he wants but it's not going to work.