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Agree. She annoyed me too! That pink hair (not to mention the twitter photos of her getting her hair pinked), her frozen-stiff way of speaking to the camera, her fakeness... she has no warmth or charm. She's just an immature, messed up a-hole.... in her own words, she's classy as f*ck. I can't stand her, but I have to say I'm dying to see how karma plays out for her.

I posted this in another thread, and b/c I'm obsessed, wanted to repeat it here... On Sonja's clothing website, we've been talking about the absurdity of her trying to sell $1200 dresses in S,M,L sizes, etc., etc. So Iooked at her size chart (link below), and all of her pant inseams are 31 1/2 inches. WTH? 31 1/2 inches may be Sonja's exact personal inseam measurement, but that's too short for plenty of women! I have short legs for a 5'6" person, and I'm in the 30-31 inch range... All the jumpsuits have exactly the same inseam measurement, too, 26 3/4 inches. Something ain't right. ... and to be clearer, what I'm referring to is no matter what size pants you get, they're all the same length-- 31.5 inches, which is pretty short. Same thing with the jumpsuits, they're all the same length no matter the size. http://www.sonjamorg...com/size-chart/

Couldn't get the link to work... has the video been taken down? BTW all of her pant inseams are 31 1/2 inches. WTH? 31 1/2 inches may be Sonja's exact measurement, but that's too short for plenty of women! I have short legs for a 5'6" person, and I'm in the 30-31 inch range... All the jumpsuits have exactly the same inseam measurement, too, 26 3/4 inches. Something ain't right. http://www.sonjamorgannewyork.com/size-chart/

BTW there's a typo in the thread title... should be S07.E17. You know, so when archeologists dig this up in 1000 years, they don't get confused....

Okay, you have an eye for detail I see! So I looked, but it doesn't seem like the material should make that much of a difference; silk gowns are in the same range. The dress below was $596-- at Barneys (and is now marked down). Another one from BCBG is even less (see below)-- $398 (also now marked down). ETA: I kept looking and found some really expensive silk gowns. Like Carolina Herrera and stuff. So I guess point taken... but still. WTH is Sonja doing selling, or trying to sell, really expensive clothing? http://www.barneyswarehouse.com/nili-lotan-silk-maxi-dress-503940279.html?gclid=CM2xg8y3gccCFciFfgod4HUFow http://www.bcbg.com/Alicia-Pleated-Silk-Evening-Gown/725942029895,default,pd.html?pla=1&cm_mmc=PLA-_-DataPop-_-LUB6D989-996&utm_source=CPC&utm_medium=PLA&utm_campaign=BCBG%20PLA%20|%20Nonbrand%20Dresses&cm_mmc=CPC-_-PLA-_-bcbg%20pla%20|%20nonbrand%20dresses-_-&kpid=725942029895&gclid=CIbLpIa3gccCFYlafgodbEEMxg

Sonja's prices are more than twice what designers charge, for gowns you can get at Bloomingdale's. I had to shop for fancy dresses for a couple events last year, and at Bloomingdale's, the prices I saw were usually in the mid-three figures-- and that was for some top designers. The Halston Heritage gown below is $595. The Badgley Mischka is $650. And they have actual number sizing, go figure. Sonja's gowns are priced at $1,295! And they're sized like they're Gap t-shirts, S, M, L.... http://www1.bloomingdales.com/shop/product/halston-heritage-gown-asymmetric-strap-slit-front?ID=1294659&CategoryID=21683&LinkType=#fn=DRESS_OCCASION%3DEvening/Formal%26PRICE%3D500.0|1000.0%26spp%3D5%26ppp%3D96%26sp%3D1%26rid%3D%26spc%3D52 http://www1.bloomingdales.com/shop/product/badgley-mischka-gown-column?ID=1382229&CategoryID=21683&LinkType=#fn=DRESS_OCCASION%3DEvening/Formal%26PRICE%3D500.0|1000.0%26spp%3D12%26ppp%3D96%26sp%3D1%26rid%3D%26spc%3D52

She probably overdid the Xanax. :/

The thing is, I hate Meghan, but I don't even find it enjoyable to hate her. She's not a love to hate; she's just a "hate."

This is OT but is this meant to be an anti-Obama saying? I've heard a younger person say it at the office and it really disturbed me b/c it sounded ugly. If so, please be mindful that you can dredge up strong feelings about people's politics with seemingly offhanded comments-- which is something I'm sure we don't want to get into on this board! ... and yes, it makes me feel old that I have to ask!

EXACTLY. Thank you for expressing this so well. My word, Hailey is a child dealing with a dying mother, a twice divorced father (who is not exactly Mister Sensitive Emotionally Intelligent-- nor was he around all the time for her, far from it-- he's more like Mister Self-Absorbed), and an intrusive, selfish "stepmother." Of course she's moody! Is she taking that out on her mother? Maybe. It's such a strange and counterintuitive thing, though-- we tend to take out our real feelings on the person who is the safest, the person who will actually care and listen. They don't deserve it, but the feelings just come out at them, it just happens. So I give Hailey a huge pass. EDITED! Because WHOOPS-- I wrote this post initially calling Hailey "Meghan"!!!!! Big diff. Sorry!

Exactly. I think what contributed to Heather and Carole being so pissed off at Ramona was that she was so selfish and thoughtless, yet again, this time in a way that put them in a really uncomfortable and potentially vulnerable position. It's not at all about the sex, or bringing a random dude back... it's about not watching out for your (supposed) friends. When I imagine waking up and realizing there's a random man sleeping in my suite... that would be upsetting, not b/c he had sex with my friend, but b/c he's a random dude who no one really knows anything about, and had access to me and my shit all night. And then for Ramona to get defensive about it instead of cop to it, that really would piss me off. Ramona is such a deflecor and blamer, and it can really be infuriating. If she'd just fess up and apologize sincerely, that would make a huge difference.

I don't like how Andy treats his assistant during the "Ask Andy" segments. He really comes off like a prick.

Reported where? ... so there's a camera crew in there filming each of the housewives while she's sleeping? don't think so. Most of the crew are union jobs ($$$) with rules about how long they can work. I just don't think Bravo is sending several full crews down there so they can keep filming in all rooms during breaks and while people sleep. And while there may have been a security person at the house entrance gate, I haven't seen any security inside the house.

So if Jim and wife #2 were having problems in late 2012, they probably separated sometime late 2012/ early 2013 (they can't have officially separated *before* the late 2012 filming season b/c if that were the case, wife#2 would not have expressed interest in having her and Jim be part of that season of RHOC to begin with). Meghan was already the girlfriend as of late 2013, so Meghan must have been one of the first people Jim asked on a date following his separation in late 2012/early 2013. Interesting. I'm guessing he and Meghan must have started dating around early 2013. Jim's divorce from wife #2 then comes through in early 2014, and later that same year, he's married to wife #3. That Jim sure does like to be in a marriage! Phew.

Holy time vortex, Batman, we've gotten stuck in popular misconceptions of the early 1980s.

Watching her try to walk makes me think she's also not comfortable with the Earth's gravitational field.

Course her earlier entree was last season, as Meghan the random girl at Heather's hoedown (at the bar with David). That means she was still the girlfriend, not the wife... what the hell was she doing in the OC already? So curious about the timeline of exactly when was the end of Jim's second marriage, and just when DID "Jim EDMONDS ask Meghan on a DATE!!!!!!" ??

they're newly bought and paid for, so she probably feels like showing 'em off a little! (And I say do it-- seems like a good boob job.) "The food on Dorinda's lip" needs its own fucking Twitter account.

... had to comment on this one. Brandi was on Howard Stern recently (like within the last month or so... I found the interview on youtube if you're interested) and she revealed that she and Kristen used to make out all the time. While Kristen was already with Josh!! Brandi said it used to piss Josh off. So another mark in KRISTEN IS AN IDIOT column, IMO.

WOW! That is some scary skinny right there. Kind of surprised Jim-bo goes for that.

Anyone know how the sonja morgan new york line is doing? Like how its sales are going, or whether anyone is actually buying the $1000 dresses at all?

Yes, Meghan was definitely a student of RHOC before joining the show:

Legally, it's true-- in a community property state, at least. The marriage has only existed for 4 months, so Meghan would only be entitled to the marital community's earnings (Jim's combined with hers) during those four months. Everything else that Jim earned prior to the marriage is still his. Legally speaking, which I assume is what Vicki meant. If Jim and Meghan call everything theirs, that's great and as it should be. It's just that when he divorces her, she'll only get the earnings that were made during the marriage. She's proving to be one nasty piece, though, so Jim may be too scared to divorce this one, lol.

From Meghan's blog: "LeAnn [wife #1] is very sick with cancer and looks extremely different than she did at the party. It's hard to watch her losing her battle but I'm glad to have a special moment between us caught on camera." "Losing her battle." -- who says that? who says that about a sick person? YOU DO NOT SAY THAT. You hope, hope, hope for recovery, always, always. I think the fact that she puts it that way -- "losing"-- shows her inner ugliness, and probably her real wishes, IMO. I think she's really quite a vicious person.

Another alternate title: "Meghan King Edmonds: the 'Edmonds' is Silent" (that's based on the Shannon cell phone fiasco)