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Acts dumber!

According to SH, he was born in 1935, which would make him around 79: http://stoopidhousewives.com/2012/08/03/aviva-drescher-who-is-avivas-sex-addict-daddy-george-teichner/ So now we know how old dirt really is.

Shannon's eyes get wide when she's scared or upset and trying to contain herself. And to me... Heather is scary! In fact, Heather is a downright Heather (for the kids out there, that's a 1988 movie reference). NO WAY was she scary angry. Heather was projecting. BTW, did I mention I don't like Heather? Cause I really, really don't like Heather. She takes the cake when it comes to pretentiousness... bow and all.

So how old is George really?

Well, months after that romantic proposal (hey babe, here's something in a bag, don't worry, we can return it) they're not even married yet. I'm sure it's because they really want to enjoy the engagement. Yeah, right!

Nice find!

It was THEIR house, not HER house. And if Cookie needed special attention due to her age, Bethenny should have arranged for that. What Jason did doesn't sound abusive-- he put Cookie in a room with food and water, he put her up at a boarding house. Where's the cruelty?

I love dogs, but, personally, I thought Cookie was a pain in the ass! (And Bethenny admitted as much!) Why did Bethenny turn Jason into the dog sitter then? Where was Bethenny? Where was the assistant? And of course Jason didn't tell them which shelter-- neither would I, since they would've just retrieved the she-beast (Cookie, I mean) and returned her right to Jason, who did not want to play dogsitter. (Anyhow, again, chum bucket, meet shark tank, I know....)

According to her IMDB page, she got a Bachelor's in Fine Arts (aka acting) from Syracuse University in 1990. Also according to her IMDB page, she went through an unfortunate eyebrow phase in her younger years:

So I finally figured out who George looks like. It'll date me, but so what. He looks like a Sleestak from Land of the Lost. Behold, the evidence:

It's impossible to read motive into the fact of settlement without being closer to the case. Settlements happen in the same way sales happen-- one party offers an amount of money the other party is willing to accept. Just like a sale, the amount of money they finally agree on is based on their independent evaluations of the value of the case. Here, they settled either because Bethenny upped what she was offering (for example, because she did not want to face Jason's own testimony about her antics, or because she found testifying wrenching and didn't want to have to testify any more), or Jason lowered what he was willing to accept (to put an end to the pain of sitting and listening to Bethenny testify, or because his lawyer felt on balance that Bethenny held up better on the stand than anticipated). No one can comment on what motivated the settlement without having more information about it-- no one can comment on it with any accuracy, that is. Everyone will still comment. I mean, duh, look where I'm posting this!

Oh, and we all know why Sonja and Aviva appear to be friends. They are a political alliance, each of them a country with something to gain from that wealthy nation known as Harry. Sonja needs him to serve as a candidate for sugar-daddy status, if she can catch him. His presence in her life lets her keep her hopes up that she still has it, and one day, a rich man will save her. Aviva needs Harry to keep paying that child support (please keep paying it Harry, please, Harrison's so many years away from turning 18), and because being "friendly" with him lets Aviva perceive herself as one of those cool, laid-back women who can totally be friends with their exes. This isn't a friendship, it's a partnership, an effort by Sonja and Aviva to each retain their most-favored-nation status with the realm of King Harry. Or Prince Harry, I guess. His wealth is totally inherited. He apparently failed at his half-hearted efforts to be a finance guy. Trust fund babies don't always make it in the real world.

So is it irony or hypocrisy that last season, Aviva professed to be so "worried" over her white trash frenemy, Sonja, because she was on a downward spiral just like Anna Nicole Smith, a gorgeous but tragic woman who famously married a wealthy octogenarian... And now, Aviva is becoming the daughter-in-law of a gorgeous young woman marrying a wealthy octogenarian? A young woman dealing with tragedy and what must be a profound sense of aloneness in the world thanks to her loss of both parents? And Aviva shows not a whiff of a worry, if we are to believe the way she imitates the emotions real humans feel. It's just true love, folks. As if Aviva knows what that is. Edited to fix shit I said wrong.

I understood that the reason Jason didn't move out was because he couldn't--- that it might deprive him of some measure of custodial rights with Bryn. I thought his not moving out was something he did based on legal advice. Would be interested to hear from a NY family law attorney on this issue, if there's one on these boards. On some of the other evidence of Jason's assholery... I've taken Bethenny's version of his post-split actions with a grain of salt. The leaving shit in the toilet... I don't know. Did the toilet just do a non-flush? Ever had that happen, where you press the handle and nothing happens b/c you didn't press hard enough? Honestly, I feel like it's so silly to even bring up. Who literally gives a shit if the toilet wasn't flushed. You're going to bring that up in court? For what? That's threatening? If so, I've been threatened a LOT, in fact just about every time I've dared to use a gas station restroom. Anyhow, I just don't know how many of these issues are malicious, explainable, or a reaction to other provocation. I totally agree, some exes can be crazy. And scary. I've had girlfriends whose exes have used their own computers to hack into said girlfriend's email account! I have gone to get the computer (with another friend) and absolutely hated the dude who did that to her. I just don't see that kind of crazy in Jason. Not personally. During the later seasons of Bethenny Ever After, was he passive aggressive sometimes? I can see what some of you guys mean when you say that. Bethenny was also aggressive aggressive to him, on camera, and I always assumed off, as well. So they were shitty to each other and no doubt it was much worse off camera. Their relationship was clearly crumbling. I don't know that it was ever great-- they got pregnant and married very quickly, and it's hard to judge the solidness of a relationship based solely on its honeymoon phase. But it was more obviously on the rocks during those later seasons. I used to love Bethenny. Majorly. But I've grown skeptical of her, and over the seasons/ years have soured a bit, mostly because I think she's become addicted to fame, and superficial approval of fans. She's brilliant TV, at least brilliant reality TV. But I don't think she's totally emotionally healthy, and I think she can be vicious in her intimate relationships. I assume that Bethenny runs to her lawyers and publicist every time Jason says boo, and it goes straight into a new article on Radar. I assume Jason doesn't have the same press access, and that we don't hear about all the nasty little tidbits Bethenny leaves for Jason. Lord knows she's capable. I have no doubt their fights have been nasty on both sides. That's not to say I think Jason is perfect. I just thought, during the time he was on the show, that he seemed emotionally solid, and like a pretty good dad. And I get the feeling he's probably got more emotional stability to offer Bryn than Bethenny does. And so that is my long essay on all things Jason.

Diane, sorry for all the questions, but I opened the link and I can't tell-- so what is your hometown? Sounds like the fork has moved around. Are you in Vevey? Which I just learned is in Switzerland? Your photo is so pretty I had to know where it was taken!

Wow, I have to admit I'm surprised by all the negativity about Jason. I'll put myself out there and say I always thought he was a solid guy, emotionally relatively healthy, and yes more emotionally healthy than Bethenny. I was a HUGE Bethenny fan, but my feelings about her have waned, including during their continuing reality show-- like when she had a huge meltdown at Jason, with Bryn in her arms. That sort of drama from Bethenny didn't impress me, especially since she did it in front of their kid. I thought the therapist that was willing to see Bethenny on camera was a wimp and a sellout for doing so, and that in taping her sessions, Bethenny avoided the opportunity to do the deeper work she needs. I felt like, in making that choice, Bethenny was deciding to stay addicted to fame rather than face her demons fully. In fact, I think Bethenny has found herself another loser in this dude she's with now... it's some shirtless trust-fund kid, isn't it, IIRC? That, to me, speaks to her lack of deep emotional healing, and her persistent immaturity with regard to relationships. My impression is that the stuff Jason has done post-split has been entirely to preserve his custody rights with Brynn, and has likely been done with advice of counsel (talking about staying in the house-- that if he walked away from living where Brynn lived, he could more easily lose custodial rights). He always seemed to me like a solid dad. I admit I don't understand the nuances of some of the legal positions taken by each side with regard to custody requests. If Bethenny is fighting joint custody, that strikes me as foolish and unfounded. Okay, those are my thoughts, and it looks like I'm not in the majority on this thread, that's for sure! I feel like a bucket of chum, and I just dropped myself into a shark's tank. Go for it, guys, I'm sure you'll have at me.

Great new topic! That article said something about proceedings not being sealed due to a legal "misfiling." Any idea what the error was? (Assuming the article's right, that is.) I'd think Bethenny's lawyers would be keen to have the trial sealed, and so it'd be my assumption that they were the ones who made the mistake.