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Happy Thanksgiving to Everyone! May your pants stay loose, your plates overflow and your glasses never empty!!

 

No snow here, but last week there was half a foot and minus 20. By the weekend, no snow, rain and plus 1. Tuesday was plus 20 and like spring!! Now it's cold again. Welcome to the messed up weather of Southern Ontario.

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No snow here, but last week there was half a foot and minus 20. By the weekend, no snow, rain and plus 1. Tuesday was plus 20 and like spring!! Now it's cold again. Welcome to the messed up weather of Southern Ontario.

My best friend sent me a picture of the 407W in the middle of the blizzard last Wednesday. I was glad I didn't have to drive in it, and she was lucky her husband was able to drive her to where she needed to be.

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My best friend sent me a picture of the 407W in the middle of the blizzard last Wednesday. I was glad I didn't have to drive in it, and she was lucky her husband was able to drive her to where she needed to be.

 

Hee. I couldn't live without the 407, only because it bypassses our main highways which are constantly congested. Unfortunately, it's a toll highway.

The 407 is really wide pen and exposed too, so lots of drifting snow. And because it's not too crowded, people speed all of the time, because why not?

Glad your friend and hubby were okay driving in the mess!!

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Oh, we couldn't have done much without the 407 when we were up there. My husband travels (also referred to as ttm) for work, so he was able to expense the transponder and charges. It sure made getting to and from the airport easy.

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Day 3:

Oswald had brought Laurel back to Don Falcone's. "You did well, Miss Lance, although I must admit your new wardrobe seems a bit... unsubtle." Laurel blushed slightly but stood her ground. "Well, as they say, Don Falcone, clothes make the woman. And these clothes make me feel... complete." "If you say so, Miss." replied the Don. "If you say so.

If you're ready, then, I'll give you a tougher challenge. I want you to kill one of your little band of friends. Remember, you're proving yourself... and I don't tolerate those who fail me." Her head reeled. Knowing what not "being tolerated" by the boss could mean, Laurel gulped. "I won't let you down, Don Falcone." She almost felt she should walk out of the room backwards or something.

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Leonard Snart and his gang had been doing what they had come to town for, draw the attention of the press. They had just managed to hold up a subway car - Snart had frozen the floors to cover their escape - and were dividing the profits on a rooftop when a voice surprised them.

"Leonard Sna-a-a-rt"

They looked around, trying to see where it came from, but it was coming from everywhere and nowhere.

"Captain Co-o-old", the voice taunted. It was high-pitched and sing-songy. The thugs had drawn their weapons and Snart readied his cold gun. "Who are you, come out where I can see you," he shouted at the air.

"Guess what I found on the In-ter-net!" This gave Snart pause, and he dreaded what might come next.

It came quickly. "Your sister and Roscoe Dillon made a video, and I'm not at all sure they wanted anyone else to see it..."

Snart was enraged. "Don't you dare talk about my sister! Don't you ever dare even mention her name!" Lisa Snart, Olympic figure skater, was Leonard's little sister, a genuinely good woman, and perhaps the only person on earth he remembered how to love. Her being talked about so profanely was almost more than he could take.

"And if I do say so, she has a very nice..."

All hell broke loose. Snart started firing wildly with his cold gun, desperately trying to find the leering, filthy voice. Chimneys, elevator shafts, gargoyles, other weird things on roofs, all were targets of his freeze ray. At the same time, there was a hail of machine gun fire being exchanged, but he was too engrossed in his own anger to notice.

And then it was quiet. Too quiet. He looked around, and all but one of his gang were dead; the survivor had fled to the far corner, cowering, trying to hide the fact that he had soiled himself in terror.

And Snart's cold gun was completely discharged, useless.

He looked up, and there, on a ledge of an adjoining building, stood Victor Zsasz and his lady friends.

"Guess what, Leonard," he said. "That thing with the video? Never happened. All a lie.

"Besides, I only watch snuff porn."

And with that, Victor Zsasz sent Captain Cold to a very, very, very warm place.

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Oliver, Barry, John and Caitlin were finishing dinner at the conference, still shaken from the killings but glad no one close to them had gotten hurt. "So, did anyone else want to hit some clubs tonight?" asked Oliver. "No, Barry and I are just going to watch a couple of movies back at the hotel," Felicity replied, stunning her friends in the process. "Really? What did you get?" asked Caitlin, glad to see Barry taking an interest in someone who wasn't Iris. She and Felicity had found they had a lot in common over the past couple of days and were forming a fun friendship.

"The new 'Sin City' and 'If I Stay',"

"... but we're not saying who picked which!" interjected Barry to a general round of laughter.

"Now, can you all please excuse me? I need to go powder my nose," said Felicity as she got up and headed to the ladies' room while the others tried to tease Barry into revealing this latest secret.

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Victor Zsasz had made his way to the rooftop where the bodies were laying. He crossed to the far corner where the wretch who had seen everything was hiding, trembling. Zsasz picked him up by the collar and motioned at the carnage. "You see this? YOU SEE THIS??? This is a message for Falcone and whoever he's working with. I know what they're up to. It's up to you to make sure that message is received. Got it?" The punk nodded, and just to drive the point home, Zsasz pulled out his knife, brandished it (causing what little remained in the kid's bladder to empty), and then cut into his arm.

"Thirty-two."

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Laurel was hiding in a handicapped stall, sitting on the changing table and trying to strategize. She had decided on Barry as her target, seeing as he was a forensic scientist not involved with Falcone and therefore a high-priority threat, and was trying to work out the best way to get him alone when someone entered the room. She peeked through the crack of the door, saw it was Felicity, and formulated a new plan.

Felicity, for her part, was shy about doing personal business in crowds, and had gone to the far end of the hall to find a quieter bathroom. She had just settled herself when she saw someone turning the lock on the stall door, and she froze, a few seconds away from being able to dress herself. She was slightly relieved, albeit confused, when the door swung open. "Uh, hi Laurel," she said. "Did you need something, because I'm... kind of busy here."

"That's OK, Felicity, this won't take long. We need to talk about Oliver. You see, I'm finally over him, so if he's what you really want, you can have him. I've found something better."

"OK, um... can I finish up and then we can talk about this?" Felicity at this point just wanted to get dressed and get out. "Sure, no problem," Laurel told her.

And then Felicity saw the knife.

Her legs still trapped in her clothes, she did the first thing that came to mind: picked them both up and kicked Laurel square in the stomach, sending her flying into the opposite wall. She stood up and, as she was rushing to dress herself, saw Laurel coming at her again. She had no room to maneuver in the narrow stall, but was able to dodge the wild swing enough to survive it, even as it made a shallow gash across her throat. She wanted to reason with the smaller girl, but found herself unable to talk.

"Believe it or not, Felicity, this isn't personal." Laurel had the floor to herself. "Like I said, I'm over Oliver, no matter how badly you screwed me over and stole him from me!" Felicity had managed to get herself together and tried to run for the bathroom door, but Laurel blocked her. "We aren't finished yet, you sow!" She stabbed at Felicity, who grabbed her arm and slammed her into the wall again, stunning her. Felicity tried to make her drop the knife, but Laurel wasn't having any of it and managed to push her away, cutting deeply into her arm in the process. Laurel stood there, almost feral, waving the knife and staring into Felicity's eyes. "You won't last long, you know. Have you seen your throat lately?" Felicity knew it was bad, and the blood loss was starting to affect her, but she wasn't a quitter, and she would be damned if this pathetic wench were to be the one to take her down. She looked at Laurel, at the door, and gave her former friend a placekick to the nether regions that doubled her over. She followed up with a knee to the face that sent Laurel to the floor, and ran to the exit.

Laurel had locked the door, and Felicity found it hard to work the toggle as her head had begun to swim. She heard Laurel say "Not yet, lady," as, still on her belly on the floor, she managed first to cut Felicity's Achille's tendon and then yank on her heel, pulling her down. Felicity squirmed as hard as her weakened condition allowed as her attacker climbed up on her from behind and plunged the knife deeply into her back several times. Laurel allowed herself a few moments to savor the feel of Felicity's blood as it flowed from the wounds, and then scrambled for the door, leaving the mess for others to clean up.

As planned, she slipped into a stairwell. "That bitch nearly broke my nose, but she's finished," she mused to herself. Laurel wiped her knife off on her jacket, returned it to its holster, and proceeded to clean her hands on some towels she had grabbed from the restroom. She then reached into an inner pocket of the jacket and brought out an aluminum flask. Unscrewing the top, she shook her head with a smile, offered a silent toast "to success!", raised the flask to her lips and enjoyed a drink she thought was well-earned. She then headed downstairs towards Oswald's waiting car, flask in hand.

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Felicity, bleeding heavily, made her way out into the hall. She dimly heard people screaming, and as she fell to her knees she was conscious of her friends surrounding her. Diggle was the first to ask who had done it, but all Felicity could do was make a disgusting gurgling noise in reply. Diggle ran to the restroom to investigate as Caitlin took control.

"OK, just settle down, Felicity. They've already called 9-1-1. Barry, Oliver, help support her." The two men went to either side and held her, keeping her from lying flat on the floor. "Her throat and vocal cords have been cut, and -- let me look at her back -- yeah, these are deep." Caitlin frantically tried to remember what she had learned in her trauma rotation as she tore her shirt to fashion a tourniquet for Felicity's arm. She started to think of what else she needed for tools and stopped short when she realized everything she had thought of was the specialized equipment at STAR Labs; had she spent so much time micromanaging Barry's vital signs that she had forgotten how to help regular people? She probed Felicity's wounds with her fingers.

"It feels like a lot has been severed," and her eyes started to well up. She squeezed her eyes tight to force herself to look like an all-knowing doctor; that was part of the training, because people relied on your strength when theirs was gone.

Felicity saw Caitlin's face and knew. She looked at Barry and Oliver and resolved not to waste what time she had left. She turned to Barry and motioned him close to her face. He saw her lips purse, and the two of them exchanged one last kiss. Blue lightning flickered between their lips as together they mourned what might have been.

She turned to Oliver, with whom she had shared so much and so little. Barry had been new, exciting, but what she had with Oliver had had more time to grow and ran so much deeper. Her mind flew back to her first kiss, years before, as a kid at computer camp with a cute boy named Micah. Oliver Queen's would be her last.

He spoke. "I love you, Felicity. I'm sorry, but I love you so, so much, and when I find out who did this..."

She used one finger to shush him. No time for that, and besides, he truly had no idea how much he had lost, and when he found out how this had happened his pain would be unbearable and she wouldn't be there to help. She beckoned him closer, and the two of them finally shared the deep, extended kiss that they had denied themselves for so long, the kiss that told Oliver what her mouth no longer could. When Oliver pulled away, she saw he was crying, as were Barry and Caitlin. Diggle had returned and was wondering silently if the air filtering system was broken, because his allergies were acting up.

Felicity realized she had one last piece of information to give, one last piece of wisdom. She turned back to Barry, and tried to tell him where he needed to go next, what he had to do to, if not make sense of her death, at least give it meaning. She couldn't let him be the dark, closed-off soul, hiding too many secrets, that Oliver had become; he had to move on.

Barry wasn't much of a lip-reader, but it didn't take a genius to see her mouth the words "Tell Iris."

Then Felicity Smoak, surrounded by her friends and cradled in the arms of the two men who had refused to allow themselves to embrace her until it was far, far too late, broke through life's final firewall.

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Cancelled Comics Cavalcade:

  • caprice: Barbara Kean, a HERO. It is said you own an art gallery. However, you have never been seen there, and as far as anyone can determine all you do is hang around your magnificent watchtower condo in a state of semi-undress, drinking and smoking pot. Consequently, you have no other powers.
  • CuriousParker: Det. Jim Gordon, a HERO. You may PM me the name of one person you wish to INVESTIGATE per night.
  • HalcyonDays: Leonard Snart, better known as Captain Cold, a VILLAIN. You may communicate with the other villains and participate in the nightly kill. In addition, you may PM me the name of one person to PROTECT per night; that person will be unable to be killed by night action or by the lynch the following day. You may not protect yourself and you may not protect the same person two nights in a row. Your protective ability is not 100% foolproof, however, as there's someone better than you in the game.
  • SilverStormm: Felicity Smoak, a computer genius and a HERO. You are allowed to communicate with Barry Allen because I'm Team Barricity and I said so!
Soliciting for Next Month:
  • writingdreamer
  • TJtrack99
  • jessied112
  • stacey
  • Athena
  • JayKay
  • egavasc
  • Tabbyclaw
  • photo fox
  • BizBuzz
  • Dougal
  • The Crazed Spruce
  • SVNBob
  • Tmunz
They made me do it, I swear!  There is one clue in this story.  You will have until at least 11 Pm EST Monday night (1 December) to complete a lynch.  Day is now open. Edited by MarkHB
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*floats in...*

 

Motherfuckers.....*shakes fist at Heroes* Did you see how much paragraph is afforded me!!!! *CURSE you all to Hell!!* This ain't no 8mm BS...

 

I WILL get my revenge.....and I will not be so calm in doing so...

 

*floats out.....*

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Alright, thanks for the assist, Zsasz! So it would appear that Halcyon was in fact a Villain. And we were on our way to lynching her (him?) when Bob started the vote on Spruce, which we know was a bad lynch (sorry for shooting you, Spruce!). So I think we really need to hear from Bob.

 

As for the clue, I noticed "walk out of the room backwards", which I think could lead to egavasc. But I think our main order of business is avenging Stormm (RIP). She was on the way to vote for Halcyon...

 

So, what say you, Bob?

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Really?  We need to hear from Bob?  I think Bob has shown his true colors.  I cannot believe I fell for the oldest trick in the book in regards to magicians and villains, deflection.

 

Like TJ said, SilverStormm's death must be avenged, and the only way we can do this is to slay a villain, so heroes, please lets rally and make a lynch that works.

 

We tried to lynch TCS, and nothing came of it.  I thought of him first as a suspect very early in the game, and then because of Bob, was deflected away from HD (who WAS a villain) to TCS who I believe wholeheartedly is not, that fed on my early fears, very crafty there Bob.

 

TCS, I am sorry.  I was gullible and easily led.  Whoever saved TCS, thank you.

 

Now, I am going to push my sights on Bob, because he pushed all of us away from the true villain, even though all the clues were pointing toward HD.  The whole ‘calm’ thing was good enough of a clue that it started a lynch and as I suspected AT THE TIME; Bob wanted to deflect, and he not only succeeded in deflecting but also got us to lynch TCS, when we all should have gone with the obvious link to HD as HD was indeed a villain.  And now, another hero is dead because of that.  And I have no doubt that she is dead because she was on the right path.

 

Which leads me to say, I fear for my life at night fall.  If anyone out there has a power to protect me should I experience the chance at a horrendous death, I implore you to let me live as I am going to be next in line for a nightkill.  Since we can only have one lynch a day, I am on a road to slaying these villains one by one if you can only let me live.  The first of which must be Bob.

 

Any hero with the least little bit of reason will see what I am saying is logical and will stand with me, therefore, anyone who disagrees is obviously a villain.

 

Heroes, DO NOT be fooled into a crowd mentality as there are still FOUR villains out there (including Bob himself but not including the Serial Killer) who will try to defend Bob.

 

Finally, tmunz and PF, you have been very quiet but NOW is the time to speak up, remaining silent will only result in no lynch and the loss of yet another hero…

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Nooooooooooooooooooooo, FELICITY, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! And by Laurel's hand! The horror! The absolute horror! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

 

Ok, now that my shipper heart is broken into a thousand tiny pieces, I am determined to find the monster who is known as Laurel Lance and bring them DOWN. 

 

Ok, so clues. Let me look for a bit and I'll get back to you.

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Ok, so Spruce was successfully lynched during the last day, but is somehow still here. It is possible Spruce is Laurel. Looking back to the night story, Laurel said she's not Black Canary anymore (because BC is DEAD), but BlackHawk. So....Spruce could possibly be a villain still? Just throwing THIS idea out there. 

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All right, having read the previous stories and pages of gameplay, as well as receiving some "word on the streets", I'm going to start a vote for JayKay.  Trust me when I say I'm a Hero, but the voices are telling me to vote this way.

 

1 to David Lynch JayKay(writingdreamer), 9 to fight heaven and earth.  (Hopefully I calculated that right.)

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Ok, so Spruce was successfully lynched during the last day, but is somehow still here. It is possible Spruce is Laurel. Looking back to the night story, Laurel said she's not Black Canary anymore (because BC is DEAD), but BlackHawk. So....Spruce could possibly be a villain still? Just throwing THIS idea out there. 

Hate to be the one to point this out, considering I'm the target of your suspicions and everything, but there was only one character attacked in that story, and it was not Laurel.

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I find this game getting more and more interesting. 

 

What the heck is "word on the streets" and hearing voices?  I am not convinced that JayKay is a villain based on voices and words on streets. Have you considered those "voices" may be untrustworthy???

 

However, I posted my suspicions about an hour after TJ brought up the first inkling that Bob might be a suspect.  Plenty of time has passed since that post and hardly any conversation?  Very interesting.

 

Accusing TCS means you haven't sussed the correlation between the lynch not working and a character almost being shot but not dying.  TCS, I know you are one of the good guys, since you survived.

 

Bob hasn't stopped by and defended his honor.  In fact, I find it even more damning that no one has been around to say much of anything.  However, I am not really surprised as how can you justify the unjustifiable?

 

So I truly must be on the right track.  With that being said:

 

1 to David Lynch SVNBob (BizBuzz) and 7 to call out the heroes to make their presence known.

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Let me begin by giving kudos to Mark and Lisin for working in not only a name drop of a couple (and actually, the couple) of the Rogues, but for also mentioning an old friend of the game,
 

So it would appear that Halcyon was in fact a Villain. And we were on our way to lynching her (him?) when Bob started the vote on Spruce, which we know was a bad lynch (sorry for shooting you, Spruce!). So I think we really need to hear from Bob....
 
So, what say you, Bob?

What say I?  What is there to say?  I may have lost face and made a mistake.  But who can't say that in this game?   I was just more sure that Spruce was a Villain than I was of Halcyon (say 99% vs 20%).  I never said Halcyon wasn't a Villain; I even said I'd support that vote if the momentum hadn't swung to the vote I started.
 
As much as Biz is trying to build it up, there's no conspiracy here.  I'd know.  So applying Occam's Razor, let's try to determine what really happened.  Working backwards from with Halcyon's power, which provided protection for both a Night and the following Day.  Since the Spruce lynch was on Day 2 and failed, the simplest logical solution fitting the facts is that Halcyon put said protection on Spruce during Night 1.  Now, why would Halcyon, a new player and (now) a known Villain, put protection on anyone?  Probably because that person is also a Villain, and one that was likely to draw fire.  And again I point out, on Day 1 Spruce was the person we were all questioning whether or not to target first yet again.
 
To be precise though, Biz started us down that line of thought by claiming to see a clue and not wanting to act upon it.  Followed by photo fox bringing Spruce up, and Biz giving a non-answer answer.  Soon after that, Tabby mentioned a single possible clue word, and that got us, myself included, looking in a tree-ward direction.
 
There's two ways to clear my name: Biz's way, and the non lethal one that I'd prefer.  Investigate me, please.  If there is still a heroic investigator in play, use your power on me if you haven't already.  You'll see that I'm a Hero and that my purposes are not sinister (unlike those of aglets.) 
 
I could also use the protection, because Biz clearly has it out for me.  Although it does seem odd that she didn't start a lynch right away.  In fact, it sounds to me like she's planning on taking out the villains all by herself, and there's only one way she could do that.... But since it's my suspicions that are in question, I'm not going to go there now.

 

So on to the open vote.  If I'm reading things correctly (which is always the question), then wd is also hinting at her identity.  And it's one I'm inclined to agree with.  Therefore:

 

2 to David Lynch JayKay (writingdreamer, SVNBob), 6 to fight heaven and earth.  (Recalculated.  14 living players, so majority is now 8.)

 

ETA: Seems we crossed lines Biz.  I was writing my defense up while you were posting.

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1. Well, gosh, who knew my words had that much power?  If my suppositions aka TCS were so powerful, then why didn't the same apply when I started the lynch against HD?  Me thinks it is because YOUR word was more powerful than mine and some villains backed you up knowing TCS was a hero.

 

2. We now know you not only latched onto a flimsy excuse to start a lynch on TCS but ALSO deflected the vote away from the actual villain we were in the process of lynching ... again me thinks that is too convenient a 'mistake' and as heroes, one we definitely cannot afford to make again.

 

3. We are now in a race of who is more believable.  The real question is, however, who are people more likely to believe? The player who was RIGHT last round or the player who was WRONG? Me thinks you are scrambling to look somewhat credible by trying to fool us all again.  This time with crazy talk and with a new tactic, bringing "fake analysis" into the picture.  HA!  Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, you know.  You lost all credibility when you stopped the lynch on a villain and started one on a hero. Your "I will vote to lynch HD if necessary" was you just making sure you covered your bases (which was well played, btw) however, now it can be seen for what it was, icing on the cake to convince us of your fake hero status.

 

4. I would welcome anyone out there with the power to investigate me, just like you.  However, only if they are a hero as we know all villains are liars.  Did you ask for this because one of your fellow villains has such a power and will lie for you?  Or further, will they pretend to have that power and lie for you?

 

5. The fact that you are choosing to join a lynch for JayKay on absolutely NO hard evidence further convinces me of 2 things #1 he is a hero and #2 you ARE a villain.

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I agree that this vote on JayKay seems to have come out of nowhere. I'm going to stand with my friend Biz. And I'd like Athena to answer why she said she trusted Bob as well.

Come on Heroes, we have an opportunity to get a Villain!

2 to David Lynch SVNBob (BizBuzz, TJtrack99) and 6 to call out the heroes to make their presence known.

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Wow, I can't believe we lost Felicity. That's messed up. Freaking brutal. R.I.P. Silverstormm.

And what the heck? Why me? Okay, fine, I voted for Bob last time with Spruce. But it's not because I *know* he's evil, if that's what the villains are worried about. I just made the mistake of trusting him over Dougal last game and it got me killed. Plus it just seemed unfair to kill off TCS again.

I haven't found any clues pointing to Bob, elaborate or otherwise, but there's something funky going on here so:

3 to David Lynch SVNBob (Bizbuzz, TJtrack99, JayKay) 5 to leave Spruce alone for once

And now I'm going to take a nap because I've had a 100 degree fever since Thanksgiving night. Holidays, man.

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I obviously can't reveal who I am, but just know I'm on the side of good, in fact I fight evil so much that I wish I could just lay in fields of gold sometimes.  Watching from the shadows can get lonely, but if I can keep others safe, then I will.  As far as possible clues for JayKay, what about on the first day, when someone tracked down a particular subway station infested with mold, like the one in the story, named Jay?

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You mean this post??

This part:  layered in black mold stood out to me.  So I googled "black mold subway station" and the 1st hit included a mention of "The Jay Street-Borough Hall subway station in Brooklyn".  That seems to point to Jay-Kay or possibly anyone affiliated with Brooklyn.

 

http://i.imgur.com/8xjZiN5.png?1

It was really obscure, but it was day one and CuriousParker was killed that night. Maybe for pointing a finger in the wrong direction.

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Wasn't CP killed by the serial killer, though? So I don't know if that tells us anything.

(And Biz, I wouldn't take the relative silence as being suspicious, more just that most of us are probably still in Thanksgiving-induced comas.)

I really don't know if I trust writingdreamer's claims of being an investigator...but I'm also not real confident that they're false, which you kind of need to go the other way. That said, I'm still kind of mad at Bob from last game so I might let that tip my judgement here. :) So at least for now:

4 to David Lynch SVNBob (BizBuzz, TJtrack99, JayKay, Dougal); 4 to investigate via autopsy.

2 to David Lynch JayKay (writingdreamer, SVNBob); 6 to fight heaven and earth.

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The numbers are going against me again.  Bet you're happy about that Biz.  But you shouldn't count me out just yet.  But then, I want you to stop counting people out, period, if I'm right.  So will everyone else, if they understand what I'm implying.
 
JayKay, just to let you know, my joining the vote for you this round has nothing to do with you voting for me last time (or this time for that matter.)  As I said, I believe that wd is also hinting at her identity (and not her power, but I think I get that too after additional thought), and if I interpreted the clues correctly (always the question in these cases), I think I know her Heroic identity.  As such, I was supporting her lynch regardless the target.  It could have been anyone she was trying to smoke out; TJ, Spruce, Athena, etc...., it just happened to be you.  It's truly not personal or revenge based, and I don't think your votes for me are either.
 
Besides, there's obviously no way I'd support the lynch of myself.  There's a couple of other people I'd switch my vote to this round instead, but again, I'm the one that's under question.  Any votes I start would be highly suspect by the masses, so I can't.
 
Dougal, you are correct.  CP was eliminated by the serial killer.  Here's the relevant information in question from the story.
 

Day 2:
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He was about to move on to another group when he heard a slightly squeaky voice calling out to him. "Hey, Gordon!" He turned to see Victor Zsasz on a balcony above him, and somewhere in the middle of Zsasz following up by yelling "No second chances," he saw the bullet from the silenced revolver as it approached his cornea, and then it made contact, and Jim fell to the ground and we don't know what he saw after that. The policemen were momentarily stunned, which gave Zsasz enough time to approach his escape route. The few honest cops remaining started to pursue him, but his molls appeared from behind some pillars and offered sufficent cover with their Tommy guns to allow the entire party to get out, leaving the body of man who might have been the last, best cop in Gotham lying in a spreading puddle of blood and brains.

Safely outside, unseen by the crowds who had completely given up on anything remotely resembling "calm and under control," Victor Zsasz took a large Bowie knife from his belt and added another tally mark to the collection of scars on his arm. "Thirty-one," he proudly announced to no one who didn't already know what the number would be.
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  • CuriousParker: Det. Jim Gordon, a HERO. You may PM me the name of one person you wish to INVESTIGATE per night.
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Dead players, please check your PM's for important messages.

 


Yes, that last line is important. Not for me though.  But I thought I should remind the Heroes of it.  Something for additional thought.
 

Hate to be the one to point this out, considering I'm the target of your suspicions and everything, but there was only one character attacked in that story, and it was not Laurel.

Thank you for bring that up Spruce.  Everyone, please note that section of story again.  Yes, one character was attacked in that Night 2 story, which we could assume is Spruce.  Now note who made said attack, and equate that to the lynch itself.  See what I'm saying without saying here?

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Thank you for bring that up Spruce.  Everyone, please note that section of story again.  Yes, one character was attacked in that Night 2 story, which we could assume is Spruce.  Now note who made said attack, and equate that to the lynch itself.  See what I'm saying without saying here?

 

Hmm. That part of the story:

 

 

At the conference, security had understandably been stepped up. It had made it hard for Oliver and Barry to stash their "alternative" clothing, in fact, but they had managed to do so, although Barry's was in Bludhaven, about 2 minutes away for him. The afternoon had been uneventful, and things had seemed to relax. But as the keynote address let out, someone shouted from the crowd, "That man! He was acting funny at the reception last night!" If Laurel had bothered to make an appearance, she would have recognized him as the handsome man with the blue eyes she had wanted to bring up to Barbara's, the one who had disappeared into the crowd. But she wasn't there, and whoever was doing the yelling had simply engendered chaos. The man took off running, which made him look suspicious, and the police gave chase. Montoya even got a shot off, but it apparently just nicked him, and by the time the Flash showed up and wound his way through the crowds the man had vanished.

 

"Worst. Conference. EVER!" spat Felicity, even as she admired Barry in his flashy duds.

 

So, just putting it out there since there's no reason to talk around it at this point, Spruce would be Constantine, and Montoya and Barry are two of the attackers (presumably the people who voted: SVNBob, Dougal, Tabbyclaw, jessied112, HalcyonDays, Silverstormm, BizBuzz, Athena, TJtrack99); the instigator is "someone...from the crowd". Not clear who the protector is or if it's his own power that saved him, or really what Bob is saying without saying about the attacker, since I guess I'm tired.

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The black mold mentioned by CP:  I see what you are saying WD, however, that was a very flimsy association and how can we be sure that it WAS an actual clue? 

 

SVNBob's actions are so much more shady, so I will stand with my decision to focus on him for now. 

 

Seems that I have set things in motion hoping for someone to grace protection on.  I surely believe I will be killed during Night 3 as I happened to be very vocal about HD (who WAS a villain) ... exactly like Silverstormm, and she was killed.  Now, in my eyes, this wasn't the wisest of moves villains ... talk about placing a neon sign over HD's head!  If the serial killer hadn't murdered her, she would have been lynched next just on that fact!

 

SVNBob, I can't figure out what you are trying to imply about me, but there you go, trying to deflect YET AGAIN!  Find a new one! 

 

RE:  JayKay

 

You are saying this:

 

1)  you basically agree there is no real evidence against Jaykay to justify a lynch

2)  because you deflected the lynch of a villain and THEN led the lynch on a hero last time you realize no hero should be crazy enough to trust you

3)  you are voting to lynch him (or anyone else!) merely to save your own neck.

 

Heroes, I ask you, are those the actions of a HERO?!

 

One last thing, thanks TJtrack99, JayKay, Dougal for your votes, but my fellow heroes we still need more to complete the lynch of this villain or serial killer!

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Hmm. That part of the story:

 

 

 

So, just putting it out there since there's no reason to talk around it at this point, Spruce would be Constantine, and Montoya and Barry are two of the attackers (presumably the people who voted: SVNBob, Dougal, Tabbyclaw, jessied112, HalcyonDays, Silverstormm, BizBuzz, Athena, TJtrack99); the instigator is "someone...from the crowd". Not clear who the protector is or if it's his own power that saved him, or really what Bob is saying without saying about the attacker, since I guess I'm tired.

Thanks Dougal.  By reposting that section, you helped me identify another hero.  That makes someone else I can trust, if only they'll switch their vote off of me this round.

 

But I have to ask, where are you getting Constantine in this?  The person "attacked" is the "man with blue eyes".  By logic, he must be Spruce.  But he's definitely not Constantine.  Constantine has dark eyes.  At least in the DCTVU he does.  Besides, Constantine is someone else.

 

So to help spell it out: Only one person actually "attacked" the blue-eyed tree.  Montoya.  Now, who started this attack of a lynch? 

 

Do you understand now?

 

Biz, of course I want to save my neck, same as you.  That's part of the game.  True, I'm not voting based on evidence against JayKay.  I'm trusting in another player because I believe I understand who they're claiming to be.  And I think I understand their power, which is how I assume they got their evidence.  Do I know for sure?  No.  Could they be wrong?  Possibly.  Could I have misunderstood?  Absolutely.  But I have to have faith in this play.

 

And Biz, if I really wanted to deflect, I'd drop a huge bombshell.  And you really don't want me to do that.  I don't really want to do it either, which is one reason I haven't.  But you're overplaying a bit much, so I will do it if I have to.

 

Then we'll see who the Victor is.

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I am thinking that by using the word overplayed, that you are asking me to back down.  And then a threat?  Bombshell?

 

Heroes don't usually back down, even when threatened ... they fight to the finish, in causes they believe in. 

 

So with that, let's talk about Constantine and the 'man with blue eyes (who has blonde hair)'.  I believe Constantine and the man with blue eyes are one in the same.  I don't think we would have an unnamed character/player this far into the game.  Especially when you yourself Bob, stated there are already too many characters Vs. players.  Seriously?  I doubt it.

 

Constantine has blue eyes and blonde hair in the comics; I believe it to be a simple error on the part of the game mods, just like the Central City/Starling City mix up earlier. I think TCS is Constantine, could I be wrong? Of course but that would mean TCS is some as yet unnamed character ... not  very likely.
 
Bob, I don't want to just save my own neck at the expense of the heroes winning, I am playing for the TEAM not just myself; if me dying meant the heroes win; my regret would be only having one life to give ... THAT is the statement of a hero btw.

 

So no, I would NOT vote to lynch someone who I did not believe to be a villain. I want my TEAM to win, as far as I'm concerned whether I die or not, if the heroes win, I win.

 

Bob you have no bombshell, not a real one anyway, I know this because there IS no bombshell to drop, so go ahead, 'drop it' ... then watch me bounce it right back to you.  ::giggle::

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Yeah, okay, I may not always walk the straight and narrow path, but I think I've seen enough that convinces me that there is something up with @SVNBob. Thanks for the insight, @BizBuzz! And there's something not right about @writingdreamer just suddenly getting 'words from the streets'?

 

5 to David Lynch SVNBob (BizBuzz, TJtrack99, JayKay, Dougal, Stacey); 3 to make the streets safe for the nice guys
2 to David Lynch JayKay (writingdreamer, SVNBob); 6 to fight heaven and earth.

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So to help spell it out: Only one person actually "attacked" the blue-eyed tree.  Montoya.  Now, who started this attack of a lynch? 

 

Do you understand now?

 

Frankly, I got that impression long before you called attention to it, Bob.  Despite the fact that you very nearly got me DLed last time, I think it's fairly likely that you're not a villain, and I'm positive that it would be pointless to DL you right now.

 

If I were an investigator, and I hit on the identity of one of the villains, or even the serial killer, I'd probably play it the way writingdreamer's playing it.  Sure, there's a chance that she's bluffing, but I'm prepared to take that chance.

 

5 to David Lynch SVNBob (BizBuzz, TJtrack99, JayKay, Dougal, Stacey); 3 to pick the wrong target

3 to David Lynch JayKay (writingdreamer, SVNBob, The Crazed Spruce); 5 to go with the gut.

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Night 1:

Laurel looked at the slightly-built gallery owner, figured she could take her down if necessary, and made a decision.  "Hey, how's that tourist slogan go?  'Gotham, When You're Up For Anything!'  Sounds like a plan!  Hey, can we bring that guy?"  She motioned towards a tall, handsome blonde man with clear blue eyes who was disappearing into the crowd. "Ah, on second thought, never mind him... his loss!"

 

Laurel tossed one last glance back at Oliver, and dumped her soft drink into a fake plant as they sassily walked out the door.

 

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Watching this go down from the darkened end of the alley, John Constantine shook his head and lit up a cigarette.  "There are some demons even I can't help with," he thought to himself as he left the scene.

This isn't absolutely certain that Constantine is the same one who came from the party, but it seems likely.

 

Night 2:

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At the conference, security had understandably been stepped up. It had made it hard for Oliver and Barry to stash their "alternative" clothing, in fact, but they had managed to do so, although Barry's was in Bludhaven, about 2 minutes away for him. The afternoon had been uneventful, and things had seemed to relax. But as the keynote address let out, someone shouted from the crowd, "That man! He was acting funny at the reception last night!" If Laurel had bothered to make an appearance, she would have recognized him as the handsome man with the blue eyes she had wanted to bring up to Barbara's, the one who had disappeared into the crowd. But she wasn't there, and whoever was doing the yelling had simply engendered chaos. The man took off running, which made him look suspicious, and the police gave chase. Montoya even got a shot off, but it apparently just nicked him, and by the time the Flash showed up and wound his way through the crowds the man had vanished.

 a) The one being lynched, Spruce, is definitely the same as the man from the party, which sure seems like it means he's Constantine, though I could definitely be wrong. Are any of the other male characters in play tall, handsome, elusive, blonde, and sort-of blue eyed? I'll go through those in a minute.

 

b) I don't see that Montoya necessarily started the lynch, just that she was part of it. The "someone shout[ing] from the crowd" could have been. But if you're claiming that you're Montoya, then maybe you're Montoya; I guess you would know.

 

But I have to ask, where are you getting Constantine in this?  The person "attacked" is the "man with blue eyes".  By logic, he must be Spruce.  But he's definitely not Constantine.  Constantine has dark eyes.  At least in the DCTVU he does.  Besides, Constantine is someone else.

I don't know about the "Constantine is someone else" (maybe it's who writingdreamer is claiming to be? I'll go back and look...). But I think I probably agree with Biz on:

 

So with that, let's talk about Constantine and the 'man with blue eyes (who has blonde hair)'.  I believe Constantine and the man with blue eyes are one in the same.  I don't think we would have an unnamed character/player this far into the game.  Especially when you yourself Bob, stated there are already too many characters Vs. players.  Seriously?  I doubt it.

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What other characters are there? Using your list, which I don't think we've had any information since to contradict:

  • Ollie/Arrow: Laurel knows him, black hair
  • John (Diggle, presumably): Laurel knows him, black hair, brown eyes
  • Felicity: Laurel knows her, woman
  • Barry/Flash: Laurel knows him, brown hair
  • Caitlin: woman
  • John Constantine: strong match except for sort of the eyes
  • Alfred: gray hair, and no
  • Bruce: child
  • Montoya: woman
  • (Crispus) Allen: bald, brown eyes
  • Bullock: brown hair, brown eyes
  • Falcone: gray-to-no hair, Laurel met him
  • Merlyn: Laurel knows him, black hair
  • Cobblepot: black hair
  • Captain Cold: brown hair, doesn't really make sense in the story I think
  • Laurel: ...no
  • Zsasz: bald
  • Jim Gordon: dead
  • Barbara: woman, dead

 

So Constantine really seems like the only possibility, unless it's someone in a wig or the character list is wrong.

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Basically:

  1. I'm pretty confident Spruce is Constantine.
  2. Similarly, SVNBob is either Montoya (as he's claiming) or "someone shout[ing] from the crowd" who "had simply engendered chaos," in which case he's probably a villain/the serial killer.
  3. writingdreamer is either a hero and probably has investigated JayKay (I don't get the "fields of gold" reference and can't find it on Google, but I don't watch any of these shows...), or is trying to deceive us.
  4. It seems pretty unlikely that both writingdreamer and SVNBob are villains trying to trick us (though I guess one of them could be the serial killer). My hunch is that they're not both being honest, but I don't know which one.
  5. I know SVNBob can be a pretty convincing liar in this case; I don't know anything about writingdreamer.
  6. Not sure what to think of BizBuzz; she seems to be acting sort of suspiciously, but then I thought that last game for basically the same reasons and she was a hero.

 

So for now my vote is staying as-is, but I could definitely be convinced to switch. I think that it's pretty likely if we get this one wrong, the other one will be a villain.

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Now that's an unexpected turn of events! This may sound a little strange, but I'm glad I failed in getting you killed Spruce. Because you've thrown a giant wrench in the works. I'd kiss you for that, but we all know I'm not into guys.

We tried to lynch TCS, and nothing came of it.  I thought of him first as a suspect very early in the game, and then because of Bob, was deflected away from HD (who WAS a villain) to TCS who I believe wholeheartedly is not, that fed on my early fears, very crafty there Bob.

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Any hero with the least little bit of reason will see what I am saying is logical and will stand with me, therefore, anyone who disagrees is obviously a villain. 

Now we have a paradox. Which side is Spruce on, Biz? You said he's a Hero and that's why you started this lynch. But he's disagreeing with you, so he obviously has to be a Villain. But that's what I said, so I was telling the truth. But you started this lynch because I was Villain lying about Spruce being a Villain. Who's the real liar? Me, Spruce, or you?

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Bob is a hero. That is one thing i am certain about in this game. If you lynch him, you'll be sorry and have been led to by the dark side or the SK. I think Biz is overselling this a bit too much.

 

3 to David Lynch JayKay (writingdreamer, SVNBob, Athena); 5 to twiddle their thumbs.

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Let me start with Dougal, note for note:

 

1) I'm also pretty confident TCS is Constantine.

 

2) TJ is Montoya: in his post here he apologizes for shooting TCS (Montoya shot at Constantine in the story) and note, this was prior to my post about SVNBob. Therefore, I believe SVNBob is NOT Montoya (as he's claiming) but in fact, as you say he is; "someone shout[ing] from the crowd" who "had simply engendered chaos," in which case he's probably a villain/the serial killer."

 

3)

writingdreamer is either a hero and probably has investigated JayKay (I don't get the "fields of gold" reference and can't find it on Google, but I don't watch any of these shows...), or is trying to deceive us.

 

I don't get the 'fields of gold' ref either and if we believe TCS is Constantine, then WD hinting that she is Constantine is a deception ... therefore, WD IS deceiving us. TCS I implore you to think about that, as your vote for JayKay could come back to haunt you (and the rest of us heroes) later in the game.

 

4)

It seems pretty unlikely that both writingdreamer and SVNBob are villains trying to trick us (though I guess one of them could be the serial killer). My hunch is that they're not both being honest, but I don't know which one.

 

If WD is deceiving us over her identity what does that say? I leave you to draw your own conclusions. I believe SVNBob is likely the SK, he has tried to imply that I am a few times now based on me saying I am on a road to slaying these villains one by one; which clearly means I trust my own instincts and deductions based on the story and game play. This is his so called 'bombshell' which is weak at best, considering that if I was the SK, why would I bother putting so much energy into trying to lynch him? I'd merely kill him the next night!

 

5)

I know SVNBob can be a pretty convincing liar in this case; I don't know anything about writingdreamer.

 

See 4.

 

6)

Not sure what to think of BizBuzz; she seems to be acting sort of suspiciously, but then I thought that last game for basically the same reasons and she was a hero.

 

Consider this; if Bob were truly a hero and a team player, rather than putting his energies into attempting to make another hero look villanous simply because she suspects him, he would be searching out real clues and behaviours to find the TRUE Villains. I have noted other shady behaviours here and there from one or 2 others and if I have, he is no fool, why hasn't he?

 

But, as I can only choose one person to lynch per day, and to me, Bob is the most obvious shady player, so today is his day ... as someone else said earlier in the game, tit-for-tat play will only cause more heroes to be killed, so with that in mind, I am not acting suspiciously, I am calling out those who have behaved in a shady way, either by getting a hero killed or otherwise being seemingly deceptive. Isn't that what heroes are meant to do?? Or have I misunderstood the nature of the game?

 

ETA Bob, what paradox? When I made that statement nobody else had made any claims, so the statement: "anyone who disagrees is obviously a villain." was based on what we knew AT THAT TIME. Oh you are good, you are VERY good at twisting people's words but have you met me? It won't work with me Bob, sorry.

 

I believe TCS isn't a liar, nor am I, the only liar is you Bob; as we KNOW TCS is a hero now: he has made the mistake of believing another who also is apparently deceiving us, let us not forget there are a further 3 villains still in the game.

 

Simple as a pimple.

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In the interest of fairness, I will point out that The Crazed Spruce has also voted to David Lynch Jaykay. Each of the two accusees has 5 votes against them.

Please resume. No clues bla bla fish cakes.

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I just have two points to make, and I'm going to try to make them without revealing too much.

 

1: It is entirely possible (I would have to say, extremely likely) that Mark introduced a character without naming him, both due to the nature of the character, and to a very twisted sense of drama on his part.  So don't get hung up on the idea that I must be Constantine because he's the only blonde male character who's been revealed by name, so wd can't be.

 

2: Targeting Bob this round would be a big mistake, and would ultimately come back to haunt us.  I'm absolutely positive of that.

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JayKay, just to let you know, my joining the vote for you this round [...] It's truly not personal or revenge based, and I don't think your votes for me are either.

 

"Believe it or not, Felicity, this isn't personal." Laurel had the floor to herself.

*insert side-eye face emoji*

 

But seriously, no worries, SVNBob, I don't take/intend it personally either. It's just that I had to read Felicity being horribly murdered and BizBuzz was right last time. And I don't know what to make of your implication of her being the SK. I have an idea of who she likely is, and it's a hero. I also don't think that everyone considering killing me is a bad guy. The bright side is, if I die it might be easier to see who was. And it ought to be nearly impossible for another hero to be David Lynched on Day 4, no matter how convincing the forces of darkness (and possibly independent contractor of darkness) may be.

 

I've only played one game before and I felt more confident searching for clues than observing other players. But Mark's made it clear that this is a different kind of game, so I admit that I'm feeling a little powerless this time around. egavasc seems too obvious, it's probably not TCS and the subway writing that Silverstormm brought up as possibly pointing to writingdreamer seems as obvious as the egavasc clues. There's the mold thing, but since I'm not a bad guy or suicidal I won't pursue it either. And I haven't seen any clues pointing to Bob, yet the in-game interaction is somewhat suspicious so I can't ignore it. But I haven't been very productive this game so far so I guess I can kind of understand.

 

I'm just gonna point out the elephant in the room: I'm not Constantine XD. I thought I knew who was from what happened in the story. But I understand the "fields of gold" reference (clever btw), and that leads to somebody else being Constantine. Which is confusing, on top of also possibly getting me murdered. So there's three possibilities: someone is lying, that same someone is wrong, or something daring. If they're wrong, it means that someone else has the ability to intercept that kind of thing and the only villain capable of screwing around with magic/death is maybe Malcolm Merlyn. If they're lying, it's to make me look like a bad guy and a dumbass because CP was immediately deaded after sniffing even vaguely in my direction. Third and least likely imo, this is a complicated maneuver on the part of the imposter Constantine to spare the real one, which I would find noble, but maybe a heads-up next time?

 

We've lost a hero investigator (who possibly would have cleared my name; thanks, Zsasz) and the villains/SK know(s) that, so they probably wanna lure him out. It's better for us in the long run for Constantine to have a bodyguard. So if you are Constantine it's smart to not be obvious about it, and if you're the protector, protect him. Stick to the shadows, you'll probably be more helpful to the heroes than I will.

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Oh god, it looks like I'll have to choose a side eventually, right? Right? Can I just whistle my way out of it? 

 

No?

 

Ok. Well everyone has made some pretty valid arguments. Sorry for throwing out that theory about you, Spruce. I did think there was a possibility you could be a villain, but I could see it easily being a red herring. Of course, I may not be 100% confident you're a hero, but I guess I'll have to accept it for the time being. 

 

Going back to writing's 'word on the street', and then thinking about Mark's post to the dead people about recieving special PM's, I can't help but wonder if writing has a special ability that allows temporary communication with the dead and they may have shared some special information. I could be completely off base here, but it's always a possibility. Now, whether JayKay is, in fact, a Villain, remains to be seen.

 

I obviously can't reveal who I am, but just know I'm on the side of good, in fact I fight evil so much that I wish I could just lay in fields of gold sometimes.  Watching from the shadows can get lonely, but if I can keep others safe, then I will.

 

 

Honestly, I also don't know what this means either, but I decided to look up the phrase fields of gold and a song came up, by Eva something-or-other. Smart me decided to look up Evas in the DC world and there are two and they are both bad. So...hmm...probably not a clue, to be perfectly honest. There's a lot that we still don't know and there's still a lot we could look into in regards to players. Obviously, one of these two people could very well be the SK or any other Villain. Everyone makes valid points. I, however, just don't know. So...I'm going to....cast a vote....against...SOMEONE ELSE!

 

(Shh, it's a secret)

 

1 to David Lynch jessied112 (jessied112) 7 to laugh it off

 

Nah, I'm joking, I won't do that. I do, however, want to give writing the benefit of the doubt. If writing stumbled upon info during the night, she can't very well come out and say 'Look, I'm an investigator and I found very important info!'. Maybe it's not being played off incredibly subtle, but maybe there is something to go with JayKay.I would want more proof, though, more evidence through clues. But, eh, I'll go on my gut for this one and hope for the best.

 

5 to David Lynch SVNBob (BizBuzz, TJtrack99, JayKay, Dougal, Stacey); 3 to pick the wrong target

6 to David Lynch JayKay (writingdreamer, SVNBob, The Crazed Spruce Athena, TMunz, jessied112) 2 to twiddle their thumbs.

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Honestly, I also don't know what this means either, but I decided to look up the phrase fields of gold and a song came up

 

Good lord, I'm old, aren't I? Because my first thought when I hear that phrase is Sting's "Fields of Gold"  and I'm all, "Wha-huh? Someone else made a song with that title?"

 

I'm seriously re-thinking my vote at the moment.

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Good lord, I'm old, aren't I? Because my first thought when I hear that phrase is Sting's "Fields of Gold" and I'm all, "Wha-huh? Someone else made a song with that title?"

Not exactly. In my few seconds of searching, I think I found the same artist jessie did, Eva Cassidy. And she does a beautiful cover of the Sting song.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vr0Q6fz2gw

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Ok, I'm going to be traveling again tomorrow, so I'll write what I know.

1. Traditionally, the last person to finish a lynch is the one to do the killing in the story. (They are also traditionally the one to get any negative effects, like a kamikaze kill, as well.) And in the story the chaos was started by "someone from the crowd," so there's no way to confirm ANYTHING about the person who started the lynch. So read Night 2 with those in mind.

2. I am also fairly sure the person attacked on Night 2 was Constantine. And I believe there's only one. So I don't understand this whole "unnamed character" thing. But something that just occurred to me, is that perhaps Constantine can pass messages onto others. That could explain "words on the street" and someone claiming to be Constantine to protect the real one.

3. Biz has seemed pretty tight with Stormm. Stormm's Hero character could communicate with another Hero character. Consider that.

4. Last game Bob was SATAN and he still hinted at who he was, and I'm pretty sure he was doing it again despite that identity being the top role the Heroes would want to kill. (Someone who could make their own kills every Night, that is, serially. Ahem.) There would be no reason to trust anything that someone playing that role would say.

If I'm right, especially about #4, we can't afford to wait. Heroes, we need to vote smart here. wd's claims should be considered, yes, but I hope I make a compelling case too.

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Ack! I've totally gotten out of the habit of checking in here. In other words, don't read anything into my silence.

I'm not ready to vote; a lot has been said, and I'm going to read over everything carefully again at lunch to see if I can find any patterns. A couple of questions:

Why is everyone suddenly convinced The Crazed Spruce is a hero? A few of us mentioned him early on, then we David Lynched him, which didn't take, and then HalcyonDays was revealed to be a villain with protective powers. At first glance, it makes me think Spruce is a villain, that we showed our hands by voicing our early suspicions, so HD saved his co-conspirator. But everyone seems to take it as a matter of fact now that Spruce is a hero. Why?

Also, what proof is there of JayKay's guilt? Is everyone just going on writingdreamer's say-so?

OT: I love the Eva Cassidy version of that song so much that I had forgotten it was a Sting song! lol

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Ok, wow, so much goes on when I go to sleep at night.

I want to talk about this power that has been mentioned:
 

Going back to writing's 'word on the street', and then thinking about Mark's post to the dead people about recieving special PM's, I can't help but wonder if writing has a special ability that allows temporary communication with the dead and they may have shared some special information. I could be completely off base here, but it's always a possibility. Now, whether JayKay is, in fact, a Villain, remains to be seen.


If I am able to understand this correctly, there might be a power out there that someone (WD?) can talk to the dead. If that is true, and someone can indeed talk to the dead, that person may well have spoken to HD for all we know, and as HD is/was a villain, wouldn't HD lie? Since all villains are liars?

Now here is the thing, I realize that my time is short ... I find it very disconcerting at least two players came back from relative silence and voted with the vets. There seems to be a heavy collective mentality here, that those of us who are new are being squashed and disregarded by those that have been around PTV Mafia for awhile. With one exception, Athena (but there is something that hasn't been addressed yet with her, and that is her closeness to SVNBob) so she really doesn't count. But if you look at the voting, the voting for JayKay (a newbie) is all done by long time players.

I am sticking with my vote, as I believe that SVNBob is a villain, more so the SK. JayKay is being patsied I believe, because it would be better to kill a hero than to kill any kind of villain (from a villains standpoint).

I think WD may have been led astray, however, I also suspected her from the very beginning with the graffiti thing, but I won't go there right now.

All of this to say, I think you all that have voted for JayKay have made a terrible mistake, and you are letting SVNBob roam free to kill again. I will be in his headlights tonight, of that I am sure.

I hate waiting around for my inevitable death; I'd hoped this lynch of SVNBob would be over in a Flash, but now I fear all my running around trying to lynch a villain has likely been in vain, sigh...

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I'm about to leave but wanted to say this first. It's possible, frankly likely, that JayKay is a Villain. Fine. But I'm pretty sure Bob is the SK. If we wait another Night he gets another kill. On the other hand, there's a reason we Heroes have vigilante kills to use against Villains...

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*smacks forehead*  I just got the "Fields of Gold" reference....

 

I'm not sure I understand why you think that Bob is the SK, TJ.  What I do know is that it would not be a good idea to target him this round.  I really think that you take a chance and vote for JayKay.

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