Pushing Daisies Mafia

[Meredith Quill]

2 minutes ago, Drogo said:

One vote short?  That hurts. 

TJ I think you're right on with your suspicions also, but the brazen nature of SJM's comment deterred me from switching votes... possible he was protected and trying to pull some attention from SS after some doubts were vocalized.  To you and the others who trusted me on this one, you rock, and I'm sure you have your reasons to believe me that aren't as transparent as those suggested here:

I've never won a popularity contest in my life.  [Except that time I took Carrie White to the prom, but that was more of a prom king situation and I don't want to talk about it.]   I'd say it's more likely that TJ, Spruce and MMCS believe in me because I believe in them.. and less likely that we're just the four(?) worst villains in the history of PTV Mafia.

Calling on the hero Protector to watch over either TJ, Spruce or MMCS tonight.  Jesse should be fine without protection because if current suspicions are correct the last thing the Villains would want is to clear her name and confirm said suspicions.   

I at no point said TJ was a villain, nice try there GF, keep digging that hole. And you are a very good villain as we all know only too painfully. To anyone who can see beyond the whole 'I trust you so you trust me' nonsense, we know that doesn't always work so well, but he does it in EVERY game to sway opinion to his side, even when a villain. I can't be the only one who sees that. He brazenly believed Spruce extremely fast based on nothing, even though no other player had confirmed Spruce's claim at that point. I assumed Drogo must be his partner because that was the only truly logical reason on Day 1 to have such confidence. Now we discover that MMCS is the 'other mason' uh huh, okay then. Think about it folks, just take a minute and do that before his works that charm on you again.

[MuuMuuChainsmoker]

For the record, I thought the post editing rule referred to going back over old posts to change our previous comments that would look incriminating (eg, supporting someone who turns out to be a villain).  

In this case, I misposted and tried to correct my mistake within the first couple of minutes after the mispost.  If that is foul play, I apologise to my fellow players.   I'm happy to bow out of the game now if egavasc thinks that's appropriate.   

[Meredith Quill]

Just now, MuuMuuChainsmoker said:

For the record, I thought the post editing rule referred to going back over old posts to change our previous comments that would look incriminating (eg, supporting someone who turns out to be a villain).  

In this case, I misposted and tried to correct my mistake within the first couple of minutes after the mispost.  If that is foul play, I apologise to my fellow players.   I'm happy to bow out of the game now if egavasc thinks that's appropriate.   

FWIW, I do not for one second think you should bow out. I was simply pointing out that the behaviour was 'hinky' as Spruce put it.

[MuuMuuChainsmoker]

1 minute ago, SilverStormm said:

FWIW, I do not for one second think you should bow out. I was simply pointing out that the behaviour was 'hinky' as Spruce put it.

It's cool, I didn't think you were saying that.   Just making the offer.

 I play as hard as I can, but it's still only an internet game.  I don't want you nice people thinking I'm trying to cheat you.  

[TJtrack99]

10 minutes ago, SilverStormm said:

So now if the villains kill you = X is auto guilty

Uh, yes, because SJM is a Villain, which would be confirmed if I was killed. I would only say it if I was sure, SS. How many more dots will I have to connect before everyone starts seeing the picture? 

2 minutes ago, SilverStormm said:

I at no point said TJ was a villain, nice try there GF, keep digging that hole. And you are a very good villain as we all know only too painfully. To anyone who can see beyond the whole 'I trust you so you trust me' nonsense, we know that doesn't always work so well, but he does it in EVERY game to sway opinion to his side, even when a villain. I can't be the only one who sees that. He brazenly believed Spruce extremely fast based on nothing, even though no other player had confirmed Spruce's claim at that point. I assumed Drogo must be his partner because that was the only truly logical reason on Day 1 to have such confidence. Now we discover that MMCS is the 'other mason' uh huh, okay then. Think about it folks, just take a minute and do that before his works that charm on you again.

Spruce was already hinting at his character (as some others of us have done), so that's why I believed him. I won't speak for others. But you talk about Drogo persuading people easily, and the fact that you're not being persuaded by me is making me more suspicious of you.

22 minutes ago, Jesse said:

But seriously, who would investigate me first?

A Villain Investigator with nothing better to do?

[MuuMuuChainsmoker]

Also, I know that Spruce is a hero because of the mason thing.  But even if I didn't, I'd probably believe him, because blatant lies isn't really his style of gameplay.  At most, he usually just skates around the edges of deception

I feel moderately good about TJ based on his gameplay.  

I always somewhat suspect my pal Drogo because he's tricksy hobbitses.  But in the case, our suspicions align, so he's currently on the trust list.    

[Meredith Quill]

6 minutes ago, TJtrack99 said:

Uh, yes, because SJM is a Villain, which would be confirmed if I was killed. I would only say it if I was sure, SS. How many more dots will I have to connect before everyone starts seeing the picture? 

Spruce was already hinting at his character (as some others of us have done), so that's why I believed him. I won't speak for others. But you talk about Drogo persuading people easily, and the fact that you're not being persuaded by me is making me more suspicious of you.

A Villain Investigator with nothing better to do?

Y'see this is where not knowing a single thing about this show hinders my gameplay. Are there obvious villainous characters on this show? In past games I've given villains hero aliases to use to hint at, so character hinting doesn't sway me too much either way.  I wasn't persuaded by you because I didn't pick up what you were actually saying until now and it seems nor did anyone else because look at how well supported that lynch was. If you did what I think you did then that changes my thoughts on some things but at this point not everything.

[TJtrack99]

20 minutes ago, SilverStormm said:

I wasn't persuaded by you because I didn't pick up what you were actually saying until now and it seems nor did anyone else because look at how well supported that lynch was. If you did what I think you did then that changes my thoughts on some things but at this point not everything.

I get it. Different playstyles. You're bold and brash, I try to be more subtle. Often to my detriment. I guess I also assume that other players will pursue it when people make odd word or phrasing choices to figure out why. I try to.

Having the Heroic Investigator outed early puts more pressure on the Heroes, as the Protector might not be able to protect them several times in a row (often a rule I put in), and it makes it easier for the Villains to find the Protector, and so on. So in this case, no, I don't think the bold nature of SJM's claim makes it more believable. To the contrary.

[Drogo]

Just now, SilverStormm said:

Think about it folks, just take a minute and do that before his works that charm on you again.

Well now ♪ I feel pretty! ♫ and

[Drogo]

1 hour ago, Drogo said:

Calling on the hero Protector to watch over either TJ, Spruce or MMCS tonight.

Inspired to update this.  TJ should be protected at all costs. 

[TJtrack99]

2 minutes ago, Drogo said:

Inspired to update this.  TJ should be protected at all costs. 

There you go, working your charms on me again.

(Since we met at work, my lady friend and I often compare ourselves to Jim and Pam. It helps that I'm tall and goofy and she's short and cute :) )

[Lisin]

I'm with @saoirse in that Day ended while I was unable to be here (my commute is hell yo). So, I'm sorry I didn't close out a vote but I doubt I would have because honestly I'm really not sure where I stand. I believe a lot of what @SilverStormm is saying but I also see @TJtrack99's points, however I do lean a bit towards Silver when it comes to why (and for some reason my @ button has stopped working) @Drogo believed @The Crazed Spruce's Masons claim immediately. I agree a 9 person game having masons seems odd. And now I also can't hit enter. Adding to the fact that I am still recovering from the bought of food poisoning brought on by administrative assistant appreciation day or whatever the fuck... I'm just not very helpful at the moment. Other than to say I have no powers so I couldn't help out and have never seen an episode of this show. 

[Jesse]

I would agree with everyone about masons being odd in a 9-person game, EXCEPT for the aunts in Pushing Daisies. 

[egavasc]

Hey folks. I'm so sorry to have to do this. The real world has just been really rough on me lately and I don't know if I can finish out this game. I'm having a hard time getting any sort of story together. I hate to abandon a game in the middle, so I'll be happy to continue to do basic mod stuff (responding to night actions, setting time limits) but I'm not sure I can fully handle the whole enchilada at the moment. 

If that works for y'all, we'll start night soon. If not, I guess we'll just put this on pause for a bit? Again, I am so sorry for starting something that I can't seem to finish. 

[Jesse]

I'm sorry you're going through stuff! And definitely don't worry about having more important things to focus on.  For my part, I'm fine either way. 

[formerlyfreedom]

5 minutes ago, Jesse said:

I'm sorry you're going through stuff! And definitely don't worry about having more important things to focus on.  For my part, I'm fine either way. 

What @Jesse said, @egavasc. {{{hugs}}} for whatever's going on, take as much time as you need.

[Meredith Quill]

@egavasc You do what you need to, don't worry about a silly mafia game, I'm sure I speak for all when I say we all totally understand. The last thing I'd want to do is put you under any kind of pressure if life is kicking your butt. Plus another game is in prep mode right now. You look after you {{{HUG}}}.

[Drogo]

We love you @egavasc. 

[JonSnow]

I'm sorry you're going through some hard times @egavasc don't worry about the mafia game.

[MuuMuuChainsmoker]

Huge amounts of love and appreciation coming your way, egavasc.  

[The Crazed Spruce]

As someone who's had to abandon a Mafia game he was modding when reality kicked him between the legs, I can empathize. Whatever's going on in your life right now, that takes priority over some game. Do what you gotta do. We'll be here when you get back. :)

[caprice]

Even though I'm a spectator for this game, I'm sending love and warm, happy thoughts your way, @egavasc. Sometimes, life happens and I hope that you'll soon be on top of whatever you're going through. (((hugs)))

[MarkHB]

{{{{{{ @egavasc }}}}}} .

[FormerMod-a1]

Another spectator sending love and warm, happy thoughts your way, @egavasc.

[egavasc]

Thanks all. Our villains have graciously volunteered to resign so I'm going to declare this game over and everyone winners. Thank you so much everyone. I really appreciate all the support. 

[Meredith Quill]

Who was a villain? Drogo?!

[Drogo]

7 minutes ago, SilverStormm said:

Who was a villain? Drogo?!

Always?!

[Meredith Quill]

1 minute ago, Drogo said:

Always?!

Nailed it ;)

[Drogo]

12 minutes ago, SilverStormm said:

Who was a villain? 

[The Crazed Spruce]

So that "winter is coming" clue was right? I actually found a clue?

That may be the most shocking twist of all....

[TJtrack99]

I do know for certain that SJM was a Villain.

ETA I never expressed my sympathy for @egavasc. Hope things get better, darling.

Edited May 1, 2017 by TJtrack99
The ETA

[Drogo]

I wasn't a baddie.  But I would bet the farm that SS and SJM both were. 

[The Crazed Spruce]

For the record, if the vote for Silver wasn't already so close, and there wasn't only an hour to go, I would've pushed harder to vote off SJM.

[MuuMuuChainsmoker]

My votes were on SJM, Silver and Lisin. 

[egavasc]

45 minutes ago, MuuMuuChainsmoker said:

My votes were on SJM, Silver and Lisin. 

ding ding ding we have a winner! 

A quick recap that doesn't have much. My apologies to the villains, who may have accidentally had this game be harder than normal as I think none of them had seen the show and the villain characters were minor characters. But the role breakdown is as follows  

1. Drogo - Chuck
2. TCS - Vivian
3. Saoirse - Olive
4. Lisin - Charles
5. MMCS - Lily
6. TJ - Emerson
7. Silver - Oscar
8. Jesse - Ned
9. SJM - Dwight

 

Good guys Characters

• Ned  - You are the piemaker, Ned, owner of The Pie Hole and you have a unique gift. With one touch you can bring anything dead back to life. But be quick, if you don’t touch them again in approximately one minute something of a similar body mass will die. You have brought back your childhood sweetheart Charlotte “Chuck” Charles from her unfortunate demise only to never be able to touch her again. Each night you have the ability to speak to dead players but you only have a minute so you’re limited to two questions, use them wisely
  • I asked you not to use the word "zombie". It's disrespectful. Stumbling around squawking for brains? That's not how they do. And "undead"? Nobody wants to be "un"-anything. Why begin a statement with a negative? It's like saying, "I don't disagree." Just say you agree.
  • No, you're not useless. "Useless" is an empty soap dispenser in the restroom standing around reminding people what you could be doing, but doing nothing at all.
  • Ah, no more pretending to be normal. The best way I can help anyone is by being a pie-making dead-waker. Pretending to be someone I'm not is a recipe for disaster. So I say yes to super and no to normal.
• Chuck - You are Charlotte “Chuck” Charles, the recently revived childhood sweetheart of the piemaker Ned. A polymath, bee enthusiast, and a lover of cheese, you’re using your second chance to take a new lease on life. Raised by your two agoraphobic aunts, you hadn’t explored the world outside of books. While most people might respond to their gruesome murder during their first venture into the world by retreating back into safety, you jump with both feet into danger. Your new life is at risk daily as you can never again touch Ned, your childhood sweetheart who brought you back to life. You’ve taken to adding mood enhancers into his pie crusts in an effort to make everyone’s day a little better. Little did you know that these enhancers can protect people. Each night you may send a pie to a fellow player and thus protect them from harm.  
  • You said you wanted to know who killed me so that justice could be served. See, I don't think that "Justice" was on the menu. Maybe as a side dish, but not as an entrée.
  • I gave the security guard a hug goodbye, my upper body distracted him, while these things I call "hands" took this off his belt.
  • I may not be Superman, but I'm smart and I'm helpful. I mean, maybe I could be your sidekick. I'd be the Alive-Again Avenger who came back from the dead to solve her own murder, and stayed back from the dead to bring justice to murder victims everywhere, with the help of a crusty unflappable streetwise gumshoe.
• There's sequins, and drama, and the promise of bloodshed!
• Emerson Cod -You are private investigator and avid knitter Emerson Cod. A no-nonsense type, often the antics of the piemaker Ned and his childhood sweetheart Chuck make you regret your investigative partnership. However, that whole “talking to the dead thing” does help give you an edge over the other PIs in town. While it helps that Ned can directly asked the murdered who killed them, it’s never as easy as that should be. You rely on your investigative skills to fill in the gaps and earn that reward. Each night you may look into the alignment of one player.
  • Bitch, *I* was in proximity!
  • Good last meal can go a long way. Our penal system makes a point of it.
  • Hell no. The planet's falling apart. Right now, it's the children's problem. We reincarnate, it's our problem.
• Olive Snook - You are Olive Snook, faithful waitress and unrequited lover of the Piemaker. You are a feeler of strong emotions, often bursting into song when you can no longer contain them. A former jockey and future temporary nun, currently you are an unwitting homeopathic drug mule. Unwitting because you don’t know that you’re a drug mule, not that you wouldn’t gladly transport the goods. In this instance, the goods being pies baked by one Charlotte “Chuck” Charles with homeopathic antidepressants baked in transported to her aunts who believe that she is still dead. You look out for everyone and keep everyone’s secrets, you are everyone’s friendly neighbor. As such you may twice reach out at night to inform a fellow player that you are a good townsperson.
  • That's the most tragic story I've ever heard. Notwithstanding the big ticket items like genocide and famine, but tragic nonetheless.
  • Neutral thought, gives me pause!
  • Someone has made you the happy recipients of a pie from The Pie Hole. As in "shut your." Or, in this case, "open your," because it's really good!
  • Well, allow me to soap up those hard to reach places.
• Vivian Charles - You are Vivian Charles, one of the two Darling Mermaid Darlings. You and your sister Lily were once a world renowned synchronized swimming duo, but after the accidental blinding of your sister’s right eye you became overwhelmed by your various social phobias and opted to instead become shut-ins. Lovers of birds and fine cheeses, you are practically inseparable. You may communicate with each other outside the game thread. Your niece Chuck has been surreptitiously sending you pies with mood enhancers baked into the crust to encourage you to leave your home. Each night one of you dares to leave the safety of your home, placing them at risk to the dangers of the outside world. The pair of you may choose each night who feels bold enough to venture into the unknown.
  • We small-boned persons are vulnerable to exoduses of the mass and panicked variety.
  • Lily is naturally suspicious of new liaisons, but I felt compelled to come clean about our relationship. Sneaking around is for politicians in bathroom stalls.
  • I suppose it's a holdover from their Viking ancestry. It would be difficult to rape and pillage with the subtlety of a humanist.
• Lily Charles - You are Lily Charles, one of the two Darling Mermaid Darlings. You and your sister Vivian were once a world renowned synchronized swimming duo, but after the accidental blinding of your right eye you became overwhelmed by your various social phobias and opted to instead become shut-ins. Lovers of birds and fine cheeses, you are practically inseparable. You may communicate with each other outside the game thread. Your niece Chuck has been surreptitiously sending you pies with mood enhancers baked into the crust to encourage you to leave your home. Each night one of you dares to leave the safety of your home, placing them at risk to the dangers of the outside world. The pair of you may choose each night who feels bold enough to venture into the unknown.
  • “Water, as in Russian for vodka?”
  • For Charles! But if I happen to miss and blow Dwight's head off - purely by accident - well, that's something my lawyers can pretty much sort out later.
  • Vermouth always reminds me of mother.
• Villains
  • Oscar Vibenius - You are Oscar Vibenius, an olfaction theorist. You favor the wild unfettered smells of the natural world, believing that people couldn’t appreciate the good smells in life without smelling the bad. As such you currently reside underneath the Pie Hole, in the sewer. You came across the piemaker and Chuck when they were investigating you for a murder, however you convinced them that they were merely smelling something fishy. You were in fact a red herring. Fishy smelling though was one Charlotte “Chuck” Charles, who smelled not of fish, but of honey and something not unlike death. Having nearly figured out their secrets, you are a threat to our heroes. You may investigate one person each night to learn their secrets (in this case, their character).
  • Dwight Dixon - You are Dwight Dixon, former and current friend of Charles Charles (after his revival) and former friend of the father of Ned the Piemaker. Currently, you are seeking out the answers to your friend’s death and the mysterious disappearance of his daughter Charlotte “Chuck” Charles’s body. Your less than savory methods of answer seeking are what make you a villain in our game. You blackmail, seduce, and when all else fails, gun brandish when you do not get the answers you want. As the only one of our villains who has any interest in friends, you may each night protect one of your own. However you may never protect anyone twice in a row.
  • Charles Charles - You are the Charles Charles, father of Lonely Tourist Charlotte Charles, more commonly known as Chuck. While you were taken from her at an early age, a quirk of fate (namely, the piemaker) has brought you both back from the dead. While you possibly could have been a loving father in her youth, you kept important secrets from your daughter such as the identity of her mother and your cruel affairs with her aunts. You’re also holding a grudge against your accidental killer, Ned, who was a wee child when he cost you your life. Forcing your only daughter to choose between her father and her love is what makes you a villain in this game. You have no additional powers.

 

Also I usually try to do awards based on stuff in the game, but since it wasn't very long the only thing I came up with is this. 

• Lisin receives the Kristin Chenoweth Award for being the tits at research! 

[Jesse]

Wait, was my numerology clue to Lisin right? Or just accidentally "right"?

[TJtrack99]

Funnily enough, I was debating on actually investigating SS on Night 2, as I was willing to give her a pass for the first Night, but she just kept coming off as villainous. I was debating between that or one of the less-talking people, saoirse or Lisin. So, I had 2/3 chance of being right.

Also, glad to see Drogo was all for trusting me...even if I did threaten him this one time.

(I'm sensitive about my weight, sheesh!)

Anyone catch any of my identity clues?

[MuuMuuChainsmoker]

Man, that's a formidable villain team! 

TJ, did you investigate SJM on Night 1, or did you just know he was a villain because he was claiming investigator?  And who was our protector? 

[formerlyfreedom]

@MuuMuuChainsmoker, I was really torn about the post that I saw before you edited it - I went back and forth about if I should say something or not, so I'm sorry I outed you, but I'd probably do the same thing again, because as @MarkHB will attest, long long ago, the first time that I was a Villain (with him, as a matter of fact!), he did exactly the same thing in the topic. He was not even a baby mod at the time, just Al*. And it was up for longer than yours! And we had so many fewer mods at the time, I resisted the urge to vamoose it, because the urge was strong!

I had no one in particular in my sights, and I hadn't 'informed' anyone who I was because frankly, you were all a suspicious bunch!

 

*Mark will always be my Al, and I will always be his Betty. Thank you, Paul Simon.

[MuuMuuChainsmoker]

It's cool, @saoirse.  It was 100% my screw up.  I've been a lot busier at work lately and my head has been all over the place.   Horribly embarrassed to have done it two games in a row, but nothing I can do about it now.

[TJtrack99]

In one episode, Emerson Cod is referred to as "named for a poet and a fish." I mentioned 'waxing poetic' once. And the next Day, y'all were gonna get buried in fish references. School, Hook, Line (maybe add in Sinker!)...good times.

Also I just kept mentioning 'hypothetically' what the Heroic Investigator might do. ("I'm sure they wouldn't investigate you, SS!") I amuse myself, at least.

[MuuMuuChainsmoker]

So who did you investigate?  :)

[Drogo]

I think he investigated SJM?

[MuuMuuChainsmoker]

I wasn't sure if he investigated him or whether he was rebutting SJM's implicit investigator claim.  

[TJtrack99]

Oh, sorry, I thought we had gotten a list of all the actions that were done. Yes, I investigated SJM, as I was being truthful when I said I was unsure on SS's alignment since she's always a bit more aggressive. Something rang villainous in SJM's trying to clue to me on Day 1.

[Drogo]

Just now, TJtrack99 said:

Something rang villainous in SJM's trying to clue to me on Day 1.

For me, it was the trying to kill me Night 1.

[Spaceman Spiff]

On ‎4‎/‎26‎/‎2017 at 6:46 PM, egavasc said:

Day 2

           The facts were these. Tuck Tuckerson was 19 years, 9 months, 12 days, 22 hours, 5 minutes, and 18 seconds old when he was stung by an overly energetic bee. As he went into anaphylactic shock, his lower lip swelled up immensely as his body reacted to believed toxins. Young Tuck had been inside his room in the middle of winter when he was stung, leading his parents to believe that somehow foul play was involved. Emerson Cod was hired to investigate after the police determined that a bee sting was a natural cause. Emerson now sat around the Pie Hole informing his partner Ned of all the details of the case and trying to ignore the recently dead girl who kept trying to butt in.

*Delurking*

I have read this thread for a very long time. I have never ever ever ever ever found a clue in any story, even when I knew the Verse it took place in, like Whendonverse or DC Universe. So when I immediately saw this obvious clue and no one mentioned it, I...well I wanted to pat myself on the back, and share.

A-Z 1-26

Spells SILVER

*Back to Lurking*

[Drogo]

^^Ooooooo LAWD.^^

Stay awhile, Spaceman.

[egavasc]

Way to go @Spaceman Spiff! That was definitely one of the ways I was going to utilize the Pushing Daisies world, cause that's very much the style of dialogue used.

[MuuMuuChainsmoker]

1 hour ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

*Delurking*

I have read this thread for a very long time. I have never ever ever ever ever found a clue in any story, even when I knew the Verse it took place in, like Whendonverse or DC Universe. So when I immediately saw this obvious clue and no one mentioned it, I...well I wanted to pat myself on the back, and share.

A-Z 1-26

Spells SILVER

*Back to Lurking*

Well spotted, but it was a trap!    Now you are legally required to play in the next game.