Irate Panda July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 Just now, all4mom2 said: I'm thinking he wasn't unconscious, but just dizzy (vertigo); I agree he doesn't sound drunk, and you'd definitely sound drunk if you were about to pass out from alcohol poisoning. Now that you mention it, this was pretty much the reaction the entire family had to Rocky dying in the yard. "Oh, wow. That's so sad." (standing around staring at him) I think Amy said he was unconscious, but it is Amy so you never know what her word choices might mean, she could have just meant he was on the floor or they edited that part out. BTW their reaction to Rocky was totally what I was thinking of! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6898793
LucyEth July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 I thought next they would just stand there poking him with sticks saying is it alive! 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6898803
Irate Panda July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, LucyEth said: I thought next they would just stand there poking him with sticks saying is it alive! The first time I saw the show I swore Jeremy kicked him. I guess that was just me projecting how trifling I think the Roloffs are because I didn’t actually see any of that in the video. So it’s clear, I didn’t think it was like a soccer ball kick, but more like jiggling Matt with his foot, but he didn’t. Sadly, that’s what this show has come down to me thinking well, at least, Jeremy didn’t punt his dad like a football. 😂 Edited July 18, 2021 by Irate Panda 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6898818
Joan of Argh July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 48 minutes ago, all4mom2 said: I'm thinking he wasn't unconscious, but just dizzy (vertigo); I agree he doesn't sound drunk, and you'd definitely sound drunk if you were about to pass out from alcohol poisoning. Now that you mention it, this was pretty much the reaction the entire family had to Rocky dying in the yard. "Oh, wow. That's so sad." (standing around staring at him) Exactly when someone is so drunk that they pass out they don’t wake up a few minutes later talking perfectly normal, no slurred speech. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6898871
EllaWycliffe July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 If you watch the episodes - it was sort of a two parter, he wasn't terribly clear in his speech and went to lie down and Amy actually walked with him to his bedroom. He had to be sub titled. Its season 10, episode 1, Little Pain, Little Gain. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6898899
EllaWycliffe July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 A small comment about Matt's control freakery. I completely respect his wanting to be with his parents while they are ill (just making the point). I don't really understand why construction has to halt on his dream garage. Hear me out. Its all being done by contractors. Matt's not personally building this garage. He's not an architect, he's not a professional carpenter, electrician, roofer, etc. Realistically, his role in building is to write the checks. Why is he stopping construction? He has to be on site and watching? 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899338
stoppro July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 3 hours ago, EllaWycliffe said: A small comment about Matt's control freakery. I completely respect his wanting to be with his parents while they are ill (just making the point). I don't really understand why construction has to halt on his dream garage. Hear me out. Its all being done by contractors. Matt's not personally building this garage. He's not an architect, he's not a professional carpenter, electrician, roofer, etc. Realistically, his role in building is to write the checks. Why is he stopping construction? He has to be on site and watching? yes sick ego 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899548
stoppro July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 how about all that rickety ass shit he built and damn near killed his kid. I have no use for him. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899551
all4mom2 July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 Why not watch it go up if he can? I would! "Checking up on" his parents sounds like a quick visit; not a major caregiving undertaking. The building is MOSTLY up. It's a barn - not a house - so nothing needs to happen on the inside (Amish and other teams working together, and Matt praises his, complete a barn-raising in a single day). I wouldn't worry... A month and ten days leaves plenty of time. Another Roloff nail-biter/cliff-hanger! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899563
EllaWycliffe July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, all4mom2 said: Why not watch it go up if he can? I would! Well, he knows there's a time constraint and its not exactly the Taj Mahal. All4mom2, my small correction is that its a garage made to look like a barn and I am pretty sure that unlike the Amish, Matt will have to build to code, including electricity. You're kind of making my point about the control freakout - he knows it has to be up by a certain date but he's choosing to shut down the build because he wants to watch. And if its not done I am absolutely willing to bet his excuse is not "I wanted to watch it go up and thats all that matters". Nope, totally will bet that the "my parents were sick!" card gets thrown with no mention of how all the work is being done by contractors, not Matt personally. Hopefully it is a short trip but if he's moving Mom and Pop to his AZ place and they're both ill, I kinda doubt it. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899582
all4mom2 July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 (edited) My point is that while a garage will eventually need electricity, and I'm sure the interior will be completed to perfection ultimately, there's no urgency to finish the interior in time for the wedding. I don't consider enjoying the fruits of one's labor and taking pleasure in watching a dream become a reality being "a control freak," but YMMV. Edited July 18, 2021 by all4mom2 1 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899586
EllaWycliffe July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 Well, from Matt's instagram the exterior build began with the sawing of lumber on site two weeks ago and right now we've got some walls, no roof, and bare plywood everywhere, so the Amish comparison where Matt's putting up a barn in a day already fails, don't you think? I'm genuinely curious to see how this shakes out. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899612
EllaWycliffe July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, all4mom2 said: I don't consider enjoying the fruits of one's labor and taking pleasure in watching a dream become a reality being "a control freak," but YMMV. Its a garage, not a home, and he did commit to first, not starting building until after the wedding, and then to completing the garage before the wedding. If he's delaying the build because he has to be on hand to watch and to hell with his obligations, that tells me his need to control everything is a little out of hand. YMMV 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899688
LucyEth July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 He likes to control things, he has that in common with Amy, who is attempting to control every aspect of the wedding and her home with life with her man. Well, if the building is not done in time that's Amy's problem. She should have paid for a venue someplace else. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899724
EllaWycliffe July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 (edited) So Matt's allowed to make promises and not keep them and thats everyone else's problem? I mean sure, shitting on Amy is kind of expected and exactly why I thought the wedding on the farm was a bad idea but has Chris - who seems to like the whole idea of the wedding on the farm - done something to deserve this? Meanwhile it still seems unreasonable to have stopped construction. Its not like Matt is needed to pound nails. Edited July 18, 2021 by EllaWycliffe 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899740
LucyEth July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 Well, Amy and her man may not like the view but the wedding will take place on the farm. I don't think the construction not being finished will prevent the royal wedding. 3 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899804
EllaWycliffe July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, LucyEth said: I don't think the construction not being finished will prevent the royal wedding. Agreed, It's just unfortunate that Matt has to play games like this. I mean, I am not surprised surprised that Matt is all about Matt but I am a little surprised he apparently doesn't trust his contractors to work without him watching. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899816
ginger90 July 18, 2021 Author Share July 18, 2021 His parents are both in need of health related care. Who cares if he puts something on hold. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899930
Joan of Argh July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, LucyEth said: Well, Amy and her man may not like the view but the wedding will take place on the farm. I don't think the construction not being finished will prevent the royal wedding. You get what you pay for… when u cheap out and have your wedding at your ex husbands farm it’s your own damn fault if things go south and you wind up with a mess. Amy sits on Instagram with toady Lisa shitting on Matt and Caryn and then expects him to care about her stupid wedding…. When she did that I felt like the gloves are off and Matt can do whatever the hell he wants. 3 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899936
LucyEth July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 When she talked about Matt and Caryn not being invited to the wedding, she made such a face and said NO, why would I want my ex and his girlfriend at my wedding. Well Amy maybe because you are having it free of charge on his farm. I think they should have been given a courtesy invitation. If the wedding was at another venue then I can see not inviting them. Either way they would not attend. 1 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899939
all4mom2 July 18, 2021 Share July 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, LucyEth said: When she talked about Matt and Caryn not being invited to the wedding, she made such a face and said NO, why would I want my ex and his girlfriend at my wedding. Well Amy maybe because you are having it free of charge on his farm. I think they should have been given a courtesy invitation. If the wedding was at another venue then I can see not inviting them. Either way they would not attend. Rude, childish, and - yes - ungrateful. In other words, typical Amy! 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6899946
Joan of Argh July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 56 minutes ago, LucyEth said: When she talked about Matt and Caryn not being invited to the wedding, she made such a face and said NO, why would I want my ex and his girlfriend at my wedding. Well Amy maybe because you are having it free of charge on his farm. I think they should have been given a courtesy invitation. If the wedding was at another venue then I can see not inviting them. Either way they would not attend. Chris used to be polite but Amy’s childish rude behaviour is rubbing off on him as well… the nerve of that white haired, pot bellied jackass saying “she’s moved on to bigger and better things”…. Bigger MOOBS that’s for sure.. Chris is rivalling Amy for big saggy tits. they both deserve to have their ridiculous royal wedding turned into a circus sideshow… Chris can be the bearded lady 🤡 🎪 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6900235
LucyEth July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 How about when Amy referred to Caryn as Matt's "girlfriend, fiancé, partner or whatever her title is", that was rude. These 4 people do not need to be socializing for the purpose of this show. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6900290
EllaWycliffe July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 What is Caryn's correct title? Lover? Girlfriend? Partner? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6900311
LucyEth July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, EllaWycliffe said: What is Caryn's correct title? Lover? Girlfriend? Partner? What was Amy's title in her relationship with Chris before the little heart ring was put on her finger? 3 1 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6900334
all4mom2 July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, LucyEth said: How about when Amy referred to Caryn as Matt's "girlfriend, fiancé, partner or whatever her title is", that was rude. These 4 people do not need to be socializing for the purpose of this show. "Cha-Cha or Chi-Chi or whatever her name is." (also Amy) 1 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6900337
ginger90 July 19, 2021 Author Share July 19, 2021 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6900350
EllaWycliffe July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, LucyEth said: What was Amy's title in her relationship with Chris before the little heart ring was put on her finger? You tell me :) I recall some really awful terms used. To get things on topic - It's good to hear Pop is doing better but it unfortunately sounds fairly serious. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6900374
LucyEth July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 (edited) I don't recall any awful titles, I only remember that some were saying Amy and Chris are in love, but Matt is banging the help. Agree about Matt's dad. Interesting that Zach drove 12 hours with Jackson to check on them too. Tori and the Bean stayed home. Edited July 19, 2021 by LucyEth 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6900395
Joan of Argh July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, LucyEth said: How about when Amy referred to Caryn as Matt's "girlfriend, fiancé, partner or whatever her title is", that was rude. These 4 people do not need to be socializing for the purpose of this show. Exactly… Caryn and Matt have referred to each other as “boyfriend” and “girlfriend” for a long time like Amy and Chris were “boyfriend” and “girlfriend” but Amy just can’t resist being a rude little shit. she should concentrate on her complexion and see if someone can help her get rid of her truffle pig face 🐷 1 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6900400
EllaWycliffe July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, LucyEth said: I only remember that some were saying Amy and Chris are in love, but Matt is banging the help. Whats incorrect about that? Caryn was getting a paycheck for being the farm manager while Matt was smooching her on camera and telling the public he was in love. Isn't there an entire thread for Amy's rudeness? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6900502
LucyEth July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 My point was Amy could have just said girlfriend or friend. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6900692
all4mom2 July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, LucyEth said: My point was Amy could have just said girlfriend or friend. Yes, but then Lisa would have had to jump in and say something rude for her. (This is Amy's rudeness specifically as it relates to Matt and Caryn.) 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6900725
EllaWycliffe July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 And Matt and Caryn are never rude? Because they often are. And Amy does believe Matt and Caryn had an affair prior to the divorce which neither Matt or Caryn will address... or deny. Except when Matt intimates that Amy is leaving things out and then refuses to mention what those things are. And when your answer to "was Amy correct about you having an affair" and your answer isn't "no" but "well, she left some things out".... what does that say? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6900751
Harry Wails July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 Matt deserves some happiness he was married to the bitchy little succubus way too long! It's Matts property and if he wants to erect an old style outhouse next to the royal wedding that's his choice, if Chris was a real man he wouldnt have allowed his wedding to be at Amy's ex-husbands property, what a pussy! Amy is a sour turd that no one but Chris wants to be around and he's just there for the money and his fetish for tiny women, so creepy Old BUG EYES probably has boxes of Playboys, poor Henry has seen things that no little fish should see! 😲 10 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6900914
Kid July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 On 7/17/2021 at 2:37 PM, EllaWycliffe said: Or how about the maybe not so great idea to build a second McMansion right when lumber costs are going through the roof? It’s his hard earned money. Why not? 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6901258
EllaWycliffe July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 It's wasteful, for starters. There's nothing wrong with the big house, its actually designed for his disabilities, and there's various features created to his tastes. The small changes Amy made - that "ruined" the house - amounted to painting the kitchen cabinets and painting over the red in the living room. Second, at last check, the dream house is indeed a two story McMansion and every other dwarf member of the family get soundly railed on for oversized two story homes. Matt is single so does he need a five bedroom home with a second story. Third, mark my words, he won't be happy with it. He never is. My fourth isn't really a fourth in that I don't actually care but... I question whether he really has the wealth to afford two gigantic homes. I'm actually curious to see if he spends money he doesn't have to build this place. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6901346
all4mom2 July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Kid said: It’s his hard earned money. Why not? Is Matt now supposed to wait for the economy to recover to get on with his life? I'd say he's waited long enough. 2 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6901440
AZChristian July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 Just for the record. Amy's new house has five bedrooms and four bathrooms and takes up an area of 3,767 square feet. And it's two stories. Amazing what a woman can save up by working three part-time jobs with an ex-husband who was unemployed. 2 6 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6901453
EllaWycliffe July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 He can spend as he likes, its not going to stop people from commenting on his choices. Does he really need a second Mcmansion with two stories that he'll be displeased with as soon as its done? AzChristian I see your gripe and ask this. If Amy had died soon after Jacob was born, would Matt have had the free time to dream his dreams or would he have needed to commit to stable employment to provide for his children on his own? Marriages are partnerships... Matt wouldn't be where he is without Amy. She earned her half of the marital earnings just as he did. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6901459
all4mom2 July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 (edited) I disagree that Matt was "dissatisfied" with the farmhouse. Yes, it was always a pigsty, and no, he didn't care for Amy's renovation of the kitchen, but he built it up from what began as a shack and I'm sure enjoyed his accomplishment and liked the finished product. Of course he wouldn't want to live the rest of his life in a double-wide trailer, but he's made that a very cozy and attractive home, too. I don't know too many second wives who would be asked or expected to take up housekeeping in the home of the first wife. Besides which, Caryn does the cooking, and the kitchen is dwarf-sized, and Z&T must move in to carry the farm and show into the next generation! Is he always looking forward to the next project? Yes; it keeps him young at heart, healthy and active and happy, and it's proven profitable. Live your best life, Matt. That's the best revenge! Edited July 19, 2021 by all4mom2 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6901472
LucyEth July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 Caryn said she didn't want to live in Amy's former home and I don't blame her. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6901492
EllaWycliffe July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 Matt has expressed his displeasure over Amy's changes... yet they are mostly cosmetic. Oh boo hoo Matt's girlfriend doesn't want to live there? She's got her own home at last check, and if the kitchen is an issue, I mean really, renovations are less expensive. And honestly plenty of second wives move into their man's home. As for Zach and Tory? They don't seem to be budging. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6901503
LucyEth July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 23 minutes ago, EllaWycliffe said: Oh boo hoo Matt's girlfriend doesn't want to live there? I wouldn't want to do it and if I were Amy I would be happy about them not moving into her former home. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6901541
all4mom2 July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, LucyEth said: I wouldn't want to do it and if I were Amy I would be happy about them not moving into her former home. If Amy were capable of ever being happy about anything. 2 5 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6901553
EllaWycliffe July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 I think Amy is no longer an owner so her feelings on who lives in her prior home are her problem. Many second wives don't get to have the option of refusing to live in the prior wife's home and Caryn isn't even engaged to Matt. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6901555
AZChristian July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, LucyEth said: I wouldn't want to do it and if I were Amy I would be happy about them not moving into her former home. Couldn't you just see her seethe if she walked into what used to be HER house, but it was sparkling clean and beautifully decorated??? To be honest, I wonder if she'd even be embarrassed about how nasty it used to look. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6901556
all4mom2 July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, EllaWycliffe said: Many second wives don't get to have the option of refusing to live in the prior wife's home and Caryn isn't even engaged to Matt. It's a moot point whether they're married or not; they're obviously in a committed relationship and plan to live together full-time. Wherever. Neither wants to begin a new life in the old house, and that's their prerogative. How exciting to make a fresh start somewhere else together and begin anew! It's too bad Amy can't seem to get excited about that (seemingly only about the wedding itself)... Edited July 19, 2021 by all4mom2 1 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6901581
SongbirdHollow July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 2 hours ago, EllaWycliffe said: It's wasteful, for starters. There's nothing wrong with the big house, its actually designed for his disabilities, and there's various features created to his tastes. The small changes Amy made - that "ruined" the house - amounted to painting the kitchen cabinets and painting over the red in the living room. Second, at last check, the dream house is indeed a two story McMansion and every other dwarf member of the family get soundly railed on for oversized two story homes. Matt is single so does he need a five bedroom home with a second story. Third, mark my words, he won't be happy with it. He never is. My fourth isn't really a fourth in that I don't actually care but... I question whether he really has the wealth to afford two gigantic homes. I'm actually curious to see if he spends money he doesn't have to build this place. Matt is milling his own lumber. And probably selling the rest at a profit. 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6901607
EllaWycliffe July 19, 2021 Share July 19, 2021 Not really. Hate to break it to you but unmarried people are not the same as married and I see Judge Judy make that point way too much to doubt it. Matt says he's milling his own lumber but the property is a) mostly fields and b) small amounts of new growth trees that aren't being chopped down. He's buying logs and having them milled on site. There's no evidence of any lumber sales happening. This reminds me of Matt's large profit making furniture business he was starting that turned out to be Matt buying himself some custom chairs from a long established company. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/92122-matt-and-caryn/page/15/#findComment-6901628
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