Little House On The Prairie - General Discussion

[Egg McMuffin]

Michael Landon was an uncredited producer in those later seasons of Bonanza, so it makes sense that he was on set even when Joe’s scenes weren’t being filmed.

[Blergh]

One can't help but wonder if ML would have used Mr. Blocker to have played Isaiah Edwards had he still been in this world.     . ..

[debraran]

7 hours ago, Blergh said:

One can't help but wonder if ML would have used Mr. Blocker to have played Isaiah Edwards had he still been in this world.     . ..

If they were on good terms I can't imagine him not using him at least once but he did have his son. I wished he came back again but that wasn't how it was with characters like that.

[BlancheDevoreaux]

I just watched Annabelle the other day. This is a ridiculous episode. Why would you take the blind school children to the circus? Pa is sitting there laughing like an idiot and Mary has to keep asking him what is so funny. "Look out! There's a clown running with a bucket of water! He might throw it on you! Oh wait, it was confetti! Oh it was actual water this time! HAHAHAHA!!!" Harriet is the bad guy for commenting on how big the fat lady is, but that is the fat lady's entire schtick. Bratty Laura is jealous that Zaldamo is dating some snooty bitch so she decides to pour water on rip snooty bitch and rip her dress the poor girl is standing there in her underwear in front of the whole town. Then, for some reason, the snooty bitch is the bad guy for not laughing about being doused in water and exposed to the town. And "baby" Grace sits there the whole time just crying.

[debraran]

7 hours ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

I just watched Annabelle the other day. This is a ridiculous episode. Why would you take the blind school children to the circus? Pa is sitting there laughing like an idiot and Mary has to keep asking him what is so funny. "Look out! There's a clown running with a bucket of water! He might throw it on you! Oh wait, it was confetti! Oh it was actual water this time! HAHAHAHA!!!" Harriet is the bad guy for commenting on how big the fat lady is, but that is the fat lady's entire schtick. Bratty Laura is jealous that Zaldamo is dating some snooty bitch so she decides to pour water on rip snooty bitch and rip her dress the poor girl is standing there in her underwear in front of the whole town. Then, for some reason, the snooty bitch is the bad guy for not laughing about being doused in water and exposed to the town. And "baby" Grace sits there the whole time just crying.

I might be wrong, but in one bio book of the show, I think they said the crying was very real of course with Grace which is sad. She cried a lot, another time it didn't seem planned was when they moved back to Walnut Grove. Maybe it was Karen who mentioned it.

Yes it was silly and I don't understand how being "fat" for the circus is okay but no one is supposed to comment on it. Odd concept and the fact that she wasn't that huge, the clothes added to it. And Nel's never would have not seen his sister because of her weight or Harriet not know he had one. I'm not sure if that was the worst plot or the blind children there or Laura acting like a bitch and getting away with it again. I guess Monzo's girlfriend didn't realize she belonged in the big city with John Jr's . ; )

[Zella]

What Laura does to that girl absolutely appalls me. It's one of the main reasons I find older Laura absolutely insufferable. What a bitch. 

[Egg McMuffin]

The thing I remember about Grace is that she never seemed to be able to get the food in her mouth when she ate.

[Blergh]

On 11/28/2023 at 7:37 PM, Zella said:

What Laura does to that girl absolutely appalls me. It's one of the main reasons I find older Laura absolutely insufferable. What a bitch. 

Not to mention, that the whole 'practical joke' of the other woman's clothes falling apart due to ONLY having been glued together and the glue coming apart via getting water dumped on them was bogus!

I mean, unless the other woman had somehow not moved or stretched in any way from the time she put on said clothes  over her drawers to the time she appeared at the circus, there's no way such flimsy attire wouldn't have previously fallen apart via sheer movement.

Edited December 1, 2023 by Blergh

[jason88cubs]

Watched the pilot movie the other night again. Never gets old

[Blergh]

2 hours ago, jason88cubs said:

Watched the pilot movie the other night again. Never gets old

The deal of them crossing the Ingallses crossing the flooded river in the wagon with Jack trying to swim with them is rather nail-biting in that the viewer isn't so sure that they'll be able to safely make it across and one is ready to mourn the faithful Jack (and understand WHY Laura and Pa's bond has gotten strained while their dog's fate is unknown) so when Jack DOES return, it's quite a cathartic scene.

Alas, the show quickly ditched the whole 'pioneers struggling to provide their own basic necessities' deal very quickly on the series!

[debraran]

On 12/7/2023 at 9:29 PM, Blergh said:

The deal of them crossing the Ingallses crossing the flooded river in the wagon with Jack trying to swim with them is rather nail-biting in that the viewer isn't so sure that they'll be able to safely make it across and one is ready to mourn the faithful Jack (and understand WHY Laura and Pa's bond has gotten strained while their dog's fate is unknown) so when Jack DOES return, it's quite a cathartic scene.

Alas, the show quickly ditched the whole 'pioneers struggling to provide their own basic necessities' deal very quickly on the series!

Charlotte Stewart talked of Karen wanting that but understanding later, the public wanted to think it was like LHOP. Part of interview  "

Stewart noted that Grassle often felt the series failed to realistically portray Midwestern farm life in the 1800s.

“[Grassle] thought the show was a bit too lightweight in its exploration of themes such as family, marriage relationships, the harshness of prairie life, and so on,” Stewart wrote. “She wanted the show to be grittier, as she said once in an interview, adding that at one point she felt like the show was ‘Let’s Pretend on the Prairie.’ She says she’s come to see it differently with time.”

[Blergh]

On 12/9/2023 at 5:31 PM, debraran said:

Charlotte Stewart talked of Karen wanting that but understanding later, the public wanted to think it was like LHOP. Part of interview  "

Stewart noted that Grassle often felt the series failed to realistically portray Midwestern farm life in the 1800s.

“[Grassle] thought the show was a bit too lightweight in its exploration of themes such as family, marriage relationships, the harshness of prairie life, and so on,” Stewart wrote. “She wanted the show to be grittier, as she said once in an interview, adding that at one point she felt like the show was ‘Let’s Pretend on the Prairie.’ She says she’s come to see it differently with time.”

I wouldn't have minded occasional lightweight and/or humorous episodes but IMO, it was best in the first few years when there was still a sincere effort to depict the Ingallses as having to struggle and take serious risks just to survive instead of seeming to totally dump that gritty aspect for soapy stuff.

All the above said, I actually agree with ML's call that it would have been too much for Miss Grassle to have worn prosthetic gunk to 'age' her hands- even though I know that pioneer women putting their hands through all kinds of tasks wouldn't have looked as though they had just popped in from the manicurist!

[debraran]

7 hours ago, Blergh said:

I wouldn't have minded occasional lightweight and/or humorous episodes but IMO, it was best in the first few years when there was still a sincere effort to depict the Ingallses as having to struggle and take serious risks just to survive instead of seeming to totally dump that gritty aspect for soapy stuff.

All the above said, I actually agree with ML's call that it would have been too much for Miss Grassle to have worn prosthetic gunk to 'age' her hands- even though I know that pioneer women putting their hands through all kinds of tasks wouldn't have looked as though they had just popped in from the manicurist!

I agree, if it was just a movie, a one time thing, maybe. You can't change that viewers thought it was "real" any more than you can change minds now about things. I think like you, the ones with them trapped in a cabin during a blizzard with the Native American saving them was "gritty" for the show. I didn't need to see Pa skin an animal or Ma cook it, but mentioning the work was what she meant too. Everything just appeared done most of the time and she was always radiant. ; ) Seeing them make flour or Caroline plow a field was "gritty" for the show. I always wanted something, special on the Long Winter and how they survived but then you couldn't have Laura meeting an older man in the woods or finding a baby...well maybe you could, lol

[jason88cubs]

13 hours ago, debraran said:

I agree, if it was just a movie, a one time thing, maybe. You can't change that viewers thought it was "real" any more than you can change minds now about things. I think like you, the ones with them trapped in a cabin during a blizzard with the Native American saving them was "gritty" for the show. I didn't need to see Pa skin an animal or Ma cook it, but mentioning the work was what she meant too. Everything just appeared done most of the time and she was always radiant. ; ) Seeing them make flour or Caroline plow a field was "gritty" for the show. I always wanted something, special on the Long Winter and how they survived but then you couldn't have Laura meeting an older man in the woods or finding a baby...well maybe you could, lol

That blizzard episode was so good!

[Snow Apple]

I was watching the All in the Family episode where Edith thought she had cancer. The nurse was played by Katherine MacGregor. It was odd but nice seeing her looking so modern (the 70's).

[Blergh]

3 hours ago, Snow Apple said:

I was watching the All in the Family episode where Edith thought she had cancer. The nurse was played by Katherine MacGregor. It was odd but nice seeing her looking so modern (the 70's).

The episode was broadcast in 1973 (IOW about a year before LHOTP). Miss MacGregor was billed there as 'Scottie MacGregor' instead of 'Katharine. . .', Oh, and anyone watching it hoping for a battle between Archie Bunker and the Archie Bunker of the Prairie, forget it. They had Miss MacGregor play the role of a nurse rather straight with zero hint of Harriet's wackiness,sneakiness or cardboard villainy. I wonder if she might have known Carroll O'Connor when both were  still starving unknowns?

[debraran]

6 hours ago, Blergh said:

The episode was broadcast in 1973 (IOW about a year before LHOTP). Miss MacGregor was billed there as 'Scottie MacGregor' instead of 'Katharine. . .', Oh, and anyone watching it hoping for a battle between Archie Bunker and the Archie Bunker of the Prairie, forget it. They had Miss MacGregor play the role of a nurse rather straight with zero hint of Harriet's wackiness,sneakiness or cardboard villainy. I wonder if she might have known Carroll O'Connor when both were  still starving unknowns?

I don't know about Katherine but Ketty did.  From her bio

"Ketty Lester talks to Ed about her love for acting, which began when she was a young girl in Arkansas; how she formally studied acting at Theatre West in Los Angeles (and befriended, among others, Carroll O’Connor); and how she successfully transitioned from nightclub singer to actress when the music industry changed in the late 1960s."

Edited December 19, 2023 by debraran

[Blergh]

18 hours ago, debraran said:

I don't know about Katherine but Ketty did.  From her bio

"Ketty Lester talks to Ed about her love for acting, which began when she was a young girl in Arkansas; how she formally studied acting at Theatre West in Los Angeles (and befriended, among others, Carroll O’Connor); and how she successfully transitioned from nightclub singer to actress when the music industry changed in the late 1960s."

Archie Bunker and Hester Sue. ..? I know that Mr. O'Connor had little in common with his iconic character but. ..that's almost as hard to imagine as  Will Geer being Larry Linville's father-in-law for a time! Grandpa Walton being Frank Burns's father-in-law. ..

[debraran]

When Carroll did "in the Heat of the Night" Ketty starred in an episode called Gunshots. Maybe more, I don't know but nice they were friendly.

I would have LOVED a Katherine bio over all the rest of the ones written. She was spunky, honest and crazy, lol. Maybe not the type to do one but I would have loved it. Alas we have many, but it gets a bit much when the "babies" are writing them. ; )

Richard Bull also did a lot of TV that many missed or didn't know.

[Blergh]

On 12/20/2023 at 4:25 AM, debraran said:

When Carroll did "in the Heat of the Night" Ketty starred in an episode called Gunshots. Maybe more, I don't know but nice they were friendly.

I would have LOVED a Katherine bio over all the rest of the ones written. She was spunky, honest and crazy, lol. Maybe not the type to do one but I would have loved it. Alas we have many, but it gets a bit much when the "babies" are writing them. ; )

Richard Bull also did a lot of TV that many missed or didn't know.

 Before I say anything else, thanks for the screenshot of 'Nurse Harriett'!

Since Miss MacGregor DID state she was working on her autobio in at least one interview in her twilight years, I wonder how far along she might have gotten with it and did she have any heirs despite having no known surviving close relatives or did it wind up that the nursing home staff just dumped it with the rest of her belongings after her demise due to no one claiming anything.

Too bad.

As per Miss Arngrim, Dean Butler supposedly considered Miss MacGregor an acting mentor on the set (despite their characters usually at odds) so if he ever DOES an autobio, that might be interesting to find out his POV about her in particular.

BTW, so far none of the male performers have penned any autobios about their LHOTP experiences.

[debraran]

Yes, you are right, the males were quiet. A lot of "Albert" fans wanted a bio but he has also been very quiet.  No real  interviews with Matt. I know he played on the set with Jon but nothing on him either from his LHOP friends. I think there is a "do not tell" with some. If they lived longer and wanted some money I think Richard Bull might have or Doc Baker. He was vocal about  pay and things like that.

Thanks for reminding me about Katherine's bio. How sad. There was a great interview with her and Richard Bull and Karen and Dabbs in a magazine from a guy in the UK I think. I can't believe I gave it away to a fan. I would love to read it again. She was very honest about her dislike of Mr Landon at times and his affair and flaunting it, etc She also praised when deserved. I also loved how both of them , Richard and Katherine, spoke so highly of Jonathan Gilbert and no one else remembers him. Melissa Sue liked him and kept in touch with a friend of his for a while but everyone else was weird. Katherine thought Matt was slightly odd but Jon was bright and learned his lines and was a pleasure to work with. His mom not so much, She was all about Melissa. Magazine was called "Prairie Memories" by Patrick Loubatière.

Edited December 24, 2023 by debraran

[Blergh]

I'm beginning to wonder if it's possible that MG may have threatened at least some of the surviving cast mates with a freeze (as in 'I'll never go to another reunion/con/meet-and-greet with you') if they openly said what may have happened to JG.

She sure seemed rather  . .. detached when mentioning how he amscrayed from the family when he became an adult in her autobio with more of 'never wanted him around in the first place so good riddance' tude than anything else!

I don't claim any 'inside info' and the above is pure speculation but I can't help but wonder if it could be possible. 

[debraran]

11 hours ago, Blergh said:

I'm beginning to wonder if it's possible that MG may have threatened at least some of the surviving cast mates with a freeze (as in 'I'll never go to another reunion/con/meet-and-greet with you') if they openly said what may have happened to JG.

She sure seemed rather  . .. detached when mentioning how he amscrayed from the family when he became an adult in her autobio with more of 'never wanted him around in the first place so good riddance' tude than anything else!

I don't claim any 'inside info' and the above is pure speculation but I can't help but wonder if it could be possible. 

Melissa was jealous when he came but I would hope she outgrew that.  I just know that he wanted to leave it all, took his money and took off and no one is really "gone" with a SS number and working. But all they say is lies, someone on a LHOP site, said he couldn't say much but everyone is quiet and Melissa just says she called police early on which didn't make sense and Alison will make up things that are funny like "monk" or acting in plays or the poor guy who is always said to be the wall street "Jon" who isn't him. He didn't go to that college, the other guy did. Just sad. Richard was the closest I think in saying he wasn't happy at home and left. Melissa Sue and one of the Carrie twins said they kept in touch a short time, Melissa Sue I think it was she knew someone who knew him. Melissa G said she has seen him twice in all those years if I remember right but the silence speaks more than the words. Oddly I noted he didn't seem to keep in touch with his step sister either.

In the book, the author gave Katherine the most time (of course) but I am glad they gave him kudos when others tried to make fun of him or say he wasn't professional when he was just 6 or so.  He did fine as much as his part would give him. I noticed he wasn't interviewed then either as the girls were. I just hope he's okay and living his best life.

Four actors from Little House on the Prairie:
- Karen Grassle (Caroline Ingalls), 14 pages
- Katherine MacGregor (Harriet Oleson), 21 pages.
- Richard Bull (Nels Oleson), 14 pages
- Dabbs Greer (Reverend Alden), 14 pages
The interviews with Richard Bull, Dabbs Greer and katherine MacGregor were made shortly before their passing.

All pictures published in the magazine are courtesy of the actors. Most of them are very rare and previously unpublished.

Edited December 25, 2023 by debraran

[Blergh]

I get that MG seemed rather jealous (and, as per her longstanding beefs with Melissa Sue Anderson and Shannen Doherty) VERY capable of holding grudges long after the initial schism's causes had been over.

However,  it's puzzling that every other surviving cast member seems to have adopted a code of silence- barely acknowledging JG having been present during the production- much less being candid re whether they have knowledge of his  fate after adulthood.

Hence, all I can think of is that since many of the cast members (especially those up in years) are depending more and more on nostalgic reunions, meet-and-greets,etc.  for the a good part of their current livelihood, it's possible that MG may have subtly if not overtly threatened the above over the issue of JG's fate.

Now, that you mention it, it's puzzling that none of the interviewers not only haven't thusfar interviewed him but don't even claim to have attempted to seek him out- much less asked others to level about him.

I'm wondering if he may have changed his entire name to his original birth name when he and the extended Gilbert family parted ways!

Again, I stress the above is speculation and NOT claiming any kind of 'inside scoop' on my part.

[Zella]

15 minutes ago, Blergh said:

I get that MG seemed rather jealous (and, as per her longstanding beefs with Melissa Sue Anderson and Shannen Doherty) VERY capable of holding grudges long after the initial schism's causes had been over.

However,  it's puzzling that every other surviving cast member seems to have adopted a code of silence- barely acknowledging JG having been present during the production- much less being candid re whether they have knowledge of his  fate after adulthood.

Hence, all I can think of is that since many of the cast members (especially those up in years) are depending more and more on nostalgic reunions, meet-and-greets,etc.  for the a good part of their current livelihood, it's possible that MG may have subtly if not overtly threatened the above over the issue of JG's fate.

Now, that you mention it, it's puzzling that none of the interviewers not only haven't thusfar interviewed him but don't even claim to have attempted to seek him out- much less asked others to level about him.

I've thought some of that could simply be respect for his wishes. He doesn't seem to want to be found or bothered with press, so I think the kindest thing to do would be to honor that. And honestly some of it could be embarrassment too. It does appear something was very off with the way he was treated in his family, and it may be easier for the rest of the cast to not talk about it rather than acknowledge it. 

[Blergh]

Let's keep in mind, as best anyone knows, being left be by the press was JG's wishes at the time of JG's parting ways with the extended Gilbert but if anyone knows what his current wishes/MO are at age 56, no one is saying! However,  I agree that it's likely that it would be easier for the cast to not talk about or acknowledge the extended Gilberts' dealings with him during his youth/LHOTP production. Of course, I think that the late Mr. Bull and Miss MacGregor each had been starving performers long enough in their youths not to let anyone else bully them- including relating positive anecdotes re JG . Moreover, it's also possible that JG may have kept in touch with one or both of them until their own passings- more confident of their discretion than other cast members.

One odd omission that no one has seemed to address is how ML dealt with JG much less  whether he attempted to become a new father to him (as he did MG) after their adoptive but, at the time, non-custodial father's early death!

[debraran]

I know Mike helped a lot of the kids and interacted with Alison a lot but Jon? He must have, they had a lot of scenes together and he gave him more work later with a wife. She'll be at reunion, do I dare ask how they ended up...just bye or did he keep in touch. They probably already warned her though...no talking about him.

A guy on another LHOP forum, just said he knew someone who worked on the set and no pictures of Jon after 20 were real. Most were obvious but it's funny how no one on LHOP would say "That's not Jon" They just ignored it. Melissa knows her brother. She said she saw him twice since he left but it's been a long time I think.  If was he homeless, abused, changed name, not a big deal. They can say he moved on, hates get togethers and is fine. Why lie?  It wasn't just his sister, it was family. I agree, Mike had bad press but not that bad. Some hated him, some put up with him, some loved him. Jon was small potatoes, they aren't protecting him. . It seems Melissa and Alison picked on Jon and others on the set (maybe why Melissa lSue liked him and Carrie had a crush on him) Just my take, it's more about them than him.

If he is in the US and didn't lose hair or gain 300 pounds, and was Jon Gilbert, someone would see that "Willie" smile over 50 years and think "is that who I think it is?

Very odd and after reading the interviews, they were so honest and I wondered if the author left some things out. He didn't answer that.

Edited December 26, 2023 by debraran

[Blergh]

@debraran,

I guess you could ask the performer if you could ask her about JG who briefly played her husband. The worst she could do is say that she couldn't/wouldn't talk about him.

[Blergh]

Happy New Year, Everybody!

 Now that I think of it, this was one holiday ML made no attempt to acknowledge on the show! Could it have been that ML didn't want to pin the show down to any specific year/s or would he have been hardpressed to have had a 19th century New Year's celebration depicted if Charles stayed stone cold sober (despite ML's actual habits)?

Then again, I don't recall any Valentine's Day  episodes. ..

[Mr. Sparkle]

I'm watching an episode of "The Twilight Zone" and who's on playing an astronaut? None other than Kevin "Doc Baker" Hagen. 

[jason88cubs]

16 hours ago, Blergh said:

Happy New Year, Everybody!

 Now that I think of it, this was one holiday ML made no attempt to acknowledge on the show! Could it have been that ML didn't want to pin the show down to any specific year/s or would he have been hardpressed to have had a 19th century New Year's celebration depicted if Charles stayed stone cold sober (despite ML's actual habits)?

Then again, I don't recall any Valentine's Day  episodes. ..

Can you imagine the New Year's resolutions

 

Charles-Only Cash on a barrel , take in some orphans, flaunt manly chest some more

 

Laura-do things that Mary would get in trouble for but not Laura

 

Harriet- Prove Charles is worthless

 

Nels- Not get busted speaking negative things about Harriet in front of her

[Blergh]

4 hours ago, jason88cubs said:

Can you imagine the New Year's resolutions

 

Charles-Only Cash on a barrel , take in some orphans, flaunt manly chest some more

 

Laura-do things that Mary would get in trouble for but not Laura

 

Harriet- Prove Charles is worthless

 

Nels- Not get busted speaking negative things about Harriet in front of her

It seemed Nels only rarely got busted in front of Harriet- which makes me think she opted to only hear what she wanted. . .

[jason88cubs]

Oh "The Stranger" is on HALLMARK DRAMA. Love this one

[Mr. Sparkle]

Are you quite sure you like it? 

[jason88cubs]

20 minutes ago, Superclam said:

Are you quite sure you like it? 

yes. I think it's a good episode

[Mr. Sparkle]

Bro! Remember the kid says "quite sure!" about everything? 

I do like the episode, but it's a classic "Charles solves the problem in 3 days" episode. I can think of a few more like it. 

• Joe Kagan
• The kid who punches his grandpa
• The family he buys the horses from

 

[jason88cubs]

7 minutes ago, Superclam said:

Bro! Remember the kid says "quite sure!" about everything? 

I do like the episode, but it's a classic "Charles solves the problem in 3 days" episode. I can think of a few more like it. 

• Joe Kagan
• The kid who punches his grandpa
• The family he buys the horses from

 

hahaha I get it now. I was busy eating and didn't get the hint lol

[jason88cubs]

been sick all day so been watching LHOP

[Blergh]

Amazing how Charles could 'solve things' in three days time for unrelated folks but he never solved the problem of the tiny house with more people and no known chamber pots!

[Zella]

4 hours ago, Blergh said:

Amazing how Charles could 'solve things' in three days time for unrelated folks but he never solved the problem of the tiny house with more people and no known chamber pots!

Charles threw himself into other people's problems as a means of avoiding confronting the chamber pot conundrum at home.😂

[jason88cubs]

My daughter sneaks out at night and that's no problem but your nephew doesn't know hard work? Send him here!

[debraran]

Did Laura ever get punished in the TV show? She did  lot of things and was threatened but I don't recall anything. She took off at night to do things and Charles was upset, she bothered the guy in the old house and he got upset and she did other things to people but only had to apologize. She ran away and caused them great angst over baby Charles and then made Albert miserable so he left because she didn't learn the world didn't rotate around her. She thought selling fake medicine to people was a good idea and just had to apologize. If Mary did anything wrong, even once, she was punished. If Laura did the fire in the barn, she'd be yelled and that would be it. If Mary stole the music box, she'd still be grounded. lol  It's okay to steal and break something because the person you took it from isn't nice. All those speeches from Pa never took hold and lying got her another apology and Nellie getting in trouble. (I realize she was mean and Nellie should just have told Charles but then Charles would have to punish Laura) That could not happen!

Edited January 13 by debraran

[Blergh]

On 1/10/2024 at 11:43 AM, jason88cubs said:

My daughter sneaks out at night and that's no problem but your nephew doesn't know hard work? Send him here!

Or, better yet we could have your nephew and that thug who beat up his frail grandfather for waking him early see if they might clash enough to both get 'tude adjustments and. . .

Oh, my bad- they're several seasons apart.

[Zella]

3 hours ago, debraran said:

Did Laura ever get punished in the TV show? She did  lot of things and was threatened but I don't recall anything. She took off at night to do things and Charles was upset, she bothered the guy in the old house and he got upset and she did other things to people but only had to apologize. She ran away and caused them great angst over baby Charles and then made Albert miserable so he left because she didn't learn the world didn't rotate around her. She thought selling fake medicine to people was a good idea and just had to apologize. If Mary did anything wrong, even once, she was punished. If Laura did the fire in the barn, she'd be yelled and that would be it. If Mary stole the music box, she'd still be grounded. lol  It's okay to steal and break something because the person you took it from isn't nice. All those speeches from Pa never took hold and lying got her another apology and Nellie getting in trouble. (I realize she was mean and Nellie should just have told Charles but then Charles would have to punish Laura) That could not happen!

I've never gotten over her shouting at the old guy in Gold Country while she is trespassing on HIS property. I never could like her after that, though several other later episodes considerably lowered my opinion. What an insufferable brat. 

[Mr. Sparkle]

34 minutes ago, Zella said:

I've never gotten over her shouting at the old guy in Gold Country while she is trespassing on HIS property. I never could like her after that, though several other later episodes considerably lowered my opinion. What an insufferable brat. 

How dare you yell at me for stealing one of your apples off of your porch???? 

[Mr. Sparkle]

BTW, guess what's up next on the Roku channel? 

[jason88cubs]

If I recall she got off in the episode where she stole Nellie's toy doll or whatever that was. Because Nellie made Laura not let that one girl in the group. Charles let Nels hand out the punishment and Nels said "sounds like to me you've been punished enough" and Charles was all "Welp off to school ya go!"

 

 

[debraran]

19 hours ago, Superclam said:

How dare you yell at me for stealing one of your apples off of your porch???? 

Didn't Laura let out he had gold under his wife's grave, someone stole it and he kills himself. Charles lies to her but Caroline knows? So sad. Was she crazy to do that?

 

Edited January 14 by debraran

[Blergh]

Laura was supposedly 'innocent' and 'naive' to have blabbed about the gold beneath the miner's late wife's remains but I can't help but think she told the story he'd told her( in confidence) to make herself popular and cool with her new schoolmates- not thinking about the inevitability  of at least one schoolmate ALSO telling it to her greedy father!

[Mr. Sparkle]

A few takeaways from watching Gold Rush yesterday:

1. That bad guy was obviously a bad guy because he had dark hair and a mustache. 
2. What the hell was up with his wife? 
3. That Italian family couldn't be more stereotyped. 
4. Zachariah (Uncle Jed, St. Peter, the guy who almost buys the farm) really overacts in his last scene!