Big Brother Canada - General Discussion

[Joan of Argh]

1 hour ago, himela said:

Kevin came in with a persona in mind. He wanted to be the silent and shy guy who is not good in social interactions, who is married and just hangs with his wife and like a fish out of water. Saying he is married gave him the chance to swear on his marriage with Marty and bond with Marty and this made Marty change his mind about nominating Kevin. What the episode didn't show was that Marty was suspicious of Kevin after catching him and Josh secretly talking game and he was convinced that Kevin and Josh have a secret alliance (they do) so Marty was pretty much ready to nominate Kevin next to Josh. Kevin read and played Marty really well understanding that he is an emotional player and manipulated him into trying to find a new way to choose who goes up next to Josh. And so the gummy bear situation occurred. Kevin saved himself with this persona of being married and emotional.

Well said!!!…. Exactly the lying about being married was an important element in his relationship with Marty and something that only they share.. being married men.

Kevin coming in to the house really didn’t have a lot in common with Marty but he quickly figured out a way to identify with Marty and use it to pull on his heart strings.

Marty is comp beast but he’s also an emotional person and Kevin is using that to his advantage.

Go Kevin!!!! 👍🏻

[funandfitpt]

I hope to never see Summer again. No class and so bitter. Gino is so nice and has class. I was sad to see him and Marty go. 

[Melina22]

14 minutes ago, funandfitpt said:

I hope to never see Summer again. No class and so bitter. 

I've mostly enjoyed Summer this season, even though I could never figure out who she really was. I found her funny and lighthearted. BUT tonight she was awful. Bitter, angry and petty, leaving without speaking to anyone. Disappointing. 

[Joan of Argh]

NEW HOH

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Betty is the new HOH

Summer will love having Gino all to herself in the jury house…. Look out Jacey, Summer is coming for your man! 😂

[Melina22]

I called the new HoH last night as the show ended, only because I thought it would be hilarious. What a season! 😂

[LakeGal]

I have been waiting weeks to get rid of Marty and Summer.  Last night was wonderful.

[Melina22]

I love how this season is so unpredictable, right down to the wire. 

[Joan of Argh]

9 hours ago, Melina22 said:

I love how this season is so unpredictable, right down to the wire. 

I agree so far this season has been a hoot! 😂

[The Crazed Spruce]

I agree, I mean, I loved the Cookout from BBUS, but towards the end, you knew exactly who was gonna win, and could make a fair guess at who was gonna go home when. But here, I can see any of the final group winning.

Yes, even Betty.

[Joan of Argh]

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Initial noms: Jacey and Josh

 

[Dustbunny]

15 hours ago, Brendan Birch said:

 

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I really don't get Betty's game.  She wins HoH and tells Jacey-Lynne that she's safe.  Jacey-Lynne, whom she knows she needs to go forward.  But then . . . she throws her up, anyway?  Even after noticing how tight of a pair Kevin and Haleena are and knowing that they need to be split up?  Really?

Thus far, Josh looks to be the one on the way out, so it might not bite Betty in the ass yet, but it still was a questionable move to not put up at least one of Kevin or Haleena.

 

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Betty was put off by Jacey not telling her that she was the one who had the secret veto and by the time Betty asked Jacey about it others had already told Betty and Jacey was very evasive in her explanation of why she hadn't told Betty and talked in circles trying to explain the situation

Betty and Josh were on the block that week and Jacey/Gino made it sound like they wanted to backdoor Marty but couldn't convince Halleena to use the veto when in reality they actually had the power to backdoor Marty but chose not to.

If Betty hadn't won the veto and saved herself she would have been evicted.

Betty already didn't trust Jacey and finding out that all the while Jacey had the power but chose not to use it didn't help matters

 

[himela]

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It seems that Josh is going to get evicted this week because he is the biggest threat to win in the end.

 

[himela]

I hope BB US learns from the way BB Can chose contestants this year. Free from sexism, ageism, racism, there were zero personal attacks, zero talk about people getting targeted because of their color or age or sexual orientation.

What an amazing season. I have watched all of them but this is my favorite of all times. Everything that could happen to make the game interesting this season HAPPENED! And heading to the finale I have no problem with whoever wins, they are all worthy winners.

Still have a soft spot for Kevin though because he made this season even better :P

[himela]

1 minute ago, Brendan Birch said:

That's not entirely true.

I didn't notice anything like that...

[himela]

6 minutes ago, Brendan Birch said:

 

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You'd have to been a feed watcher to have seen it, but Marty made plenty of remarks against people based on gender or sexual orientation.  Hell, he targeted Jess and Jay on his first HoH 

because they identified as sexual minorities.  Actually, he targeted minorities on all of his HoHs because he was too fearful of a Canadian version of the Cookout, even though it wasn't even close to occurring.  And Kevin, over whom many here have been slobbering, happily encouraged and egged him on.

But you're right about everyone else being respectful to and of each other, for the most part.

 

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I only listen to Taran's podcasts and he never mentioned any of this. Is there any article I could read or reddit or any video?

 

[Dustbunny]

2 hours ago, Brendan Birch said:

 

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You'd have to been a feed watcher to have seen it, but Marty made plenty of remarks against people based on gender or sexual orientation.  Hell, he targeted Jess and Jay on his first HoH 

because they identified as sexual minorities.  Actually, he targeted minorities on all of his HoHs because he was too fearful of a Canadian version of the Cookout, even though it wasn't even close to occurring.  And Kevin, over whom many here have been slobbering, happily encouraged and egged him on.

But you're right about everyone else being respectful to and of each other, for the most part.

 

exactly plus Betty has been bitching about other house guests being racist all season, people on the feeds are sick of her constant racism accusations, I try to tune it out and switch cams when she starts up on her racist rants

Summer also made a few comments about racism in the house

 

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[Joan of Argh]

Chatters on the BB Canada website are all saying that Haleena could see during the veto comp and that’s why she completed it so quickly 

Any thoughts?

[himela]

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I don't want to disregard what you both are saying but I feel Taran would have mentioned it if it was such a big deal. Maybe some twitter accounts like to search to find even small mentions of racism just to create problems out of nowhere and get likes? All the live feeds updaters who speak with Taran say they love Betty and Summer, and even for Marty they talk about his gameplay and not his behavior. I find it hard to believe that not even a mention of this has been made. I'm sorry, I think people want to create stories out of nowhere. Even if some small comments have been made, it's 60 days now, I find it normal that among other million of things maybe something racist could have been said. Not that it's ok, but maybe they took one small thing and made it big. Marty was really close with Jess, I find it hard to believe he had a problem with them being non-binary.

 

[LakeGal]

I thought Haleena could see out the bottom of the blindfold.  At times she was walking without fear of bumping into things.  

[himela]

Kevin's goodbye message to Jace was SO GOOD while Haleena's was SO BAD and it was almost like Haleena hated her, I took is as slut shaming to be honest. Why did you do that Haleena?

[himela]

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Josh won the HoH 😆

 

[Joan of Argh]

10 minutes ago, himela said:

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Josh won the HoH 😆

 

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I knew that would happen…. I thought it was dumb for Kevin and Haleena to keep Josh 🙄  now we’ll get to see how good Kevin is at manipulating people… I think he might be outa luck this time.

 

[himela]

6 minutes ago, Joan of Argh said:

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I knew that would happen…. I thought it was dumb for Kevin and Haleena to keep Josh 🙄  now we’ll get to see how good Kevin is at manipulating people… I think he might be outa luck this time.

 

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I still have hope for Kevin. Josh is my winner pick and he is such a nice guy but if Kevin wins he will be remembered for his sick strategy.

 

[Dustbunny]

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Betty and Kevin on the block

 

[himela]

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Josh also won the PoV. Unless Kevin creates a Dan's funeral miracle he is sadly out.

 

[Joan of Argh]

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I actually think Kevin might be okay because Josh would have to use the veto to pull Betty off the block and replace her with Haleena and Josh promised Haleena he wouldn’t do that

if noms stay the same Haleena is the deciding vote and she’s going to evict Betty 

 

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[himela]

3 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

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I actually think Kevin might be okay because Josh would have to use the veto to pull Betty off the block and replace her with Haleena and Josh promised Haleena he wouldn’t do that

if noms stay the same Haleena is the deciding vote and she’s going to evict Betty 

 

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Josh promised many things to Kevin and Haleena these last days but it's obvious he doesn't believe them anymore. He said it in the diary room that he promised he would throw the HoH but not only would he throw it but he would win it and nominate both of them. There is no way Josh leaves Betty on the block. Kevin will be voted out by Betty and we will have come full circle since Betty hated him, then loved him and now she hates him again.

 

[Joan of Argh]

7 minutes ago, himela said:

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Josh promised many things to Kevin and Haleena these last days but it's obvious he doesn't believe them anymore. He said it in the diary room that he promised he would throw the HoH but not only would he throw it but he would win it and nominate both of them. There is no way Josh leaves Betty on the block. Kevin will be voted out by Betty and we will have come full circle since Betty hated him, then loved him and now she hates him again.

 

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I guess it just seems dumb to me for Josh to put Kevin otb with Betty because if josh hadn’t won the veto Betty would be evicted

if Josh’s plan was to have Betty send Kevin home why not put him up with Haleena to begin with?

I know what he’s been saying but I’m still not convinced that he’ll use the veto on Betty 

will be interesting to see how it all plays out 

 

[himela]

27 minutes ago, Joan of Argh said:

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Josh and Betty had this plan to not put Haleena on the block thinking that if Kevin won the PoV, they could convince him to evict Haleena with the argument she had never been on the block and that would seem huge to the jury. That's why Haleena was not nominated. Kevin or Haleena were the only options for eviction for Josh. Josh is not with Kevin and Haleena anymore. That's why I said Kevin needs a Dan's funeral miracle to stay.

 

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It didn't matter who was on the block because the veto winner casts the sole vote to evict.

 

[Joan of Argh]

5 minutes ago, himela said:

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Josh and Betty had this plan to not put Haleena on the block thinking that if Kevin won the PoV, they could convince him to evict Haleena with the argument she had never been on the block and that would seem huge to the jury. That's why Haleena was not nominated. Kevin or Haleena were the only options for eviction for Josh. Josh is not with Kevin and Haleena anymore. That's why I said Kevin needs a Dan's funeral miracle to stay.

 

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It didn't matter who was on the block because the veto winner casts the sole vote to evict.

 

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The person who isn’t on the block casts the vote to evict, right now that person is haleena

 

[himela]

4 minutes ago, Joan of Argh said:

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The person who isn’t on the block casts the vote to evict, right now that person is haleena

 

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Right. So Josh will choose to evict Kevin or pull Betty off the block and let her evict Kevin.

 

[The Crazed Spruce]

2 minutes ago, himela said:

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Right. So Josh will choose to evict Kevin or pull Betty off the block and let her evict Kevin.

 

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As it stands now, it's Heleena's choice, not Josh's.

 

[Joan of Argh]

3 minutes ago, The Crazed Spruce said:

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As it stands now, it's Heleena's choice, not Josh's.

 

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 Exactly, Josh has no say in who is evicted 👍🏻 

 

[himela]

15 minutes ago, The Crazed Spruce said:

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As it stands now, it's Heleena's choice, not Josh's.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Joan of Argh said:

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 Exactly, Josh has no say in who is evicted 👍🏻 

 

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Josh has the PoV. He casts the sole vote to evict. Only if he doesn't want himself to evict Kevin, he can use the PoV on Betty and let her cast the sole vote to evict either Kevin or Haleena. I don't get what you are saying :P

 

[The Crazed Spruce]

7 minutes ago, himela said:

 

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Josh has the PoV. He casts the sole vote to evict. Only if he doesn't want himself to evict Kevin, he can use the PoV on Betty and let her cast the sole vote to evict either Kevin or Haleena. I don't get what you are saying :P

 

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Josh doesn't have the sole vote to evict. He has the power to choose who has that vote. It's a subtle difference, but it is a difference.

 

[Joan of Argh]

9 minutes ago, himela said:

 

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Josh has the PoV. He casts the sole vote to evict. Only if he doesn't want himself to evict Kevin, he can use the PoV on Betty and let her cast the sole vote to evict either Kevin or Haleena. I don't get what you are saying :P

 

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The only person who votes is the one person who isn’t on the block, Josh is hoh he has no vote…. So if his big plan was to have Betty evict Kevin he should have put Kevin and Haleena on the block because if he didn’t win the veto he’d have no way of pulling Betty down…. Right now Haleena has the only vote 

 

[himela]

1 minute ago, Joan of Argh said:

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The only person who votes is the one person who isn’t on the block, Josh is hoh he has no vote…. So if his big plan was to have Betty evict Kevin he should have put Kevin and Haleena on the block because if he didn’t win the veto he’d have no way of pulling Betty down…. Right now Haleena has the only vote 

 

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Ok so I didn't consider that Josh doesn't have a vote but still now that he won PoV he pulls betty off and lets her evict Kevin or Haleena. If Betty had won, she would use the PoV on herself and vote to evict Kevin or Haleena. If Kevin or Haleena had won the PoV, Betty would be the one they would evict. So all in all why does it matter who was on the block in the first place?

Josh wins PoV: Uses it on Betty, Betty votes K or H out

Betty wins PoV: Uses it on herself, she votes K or H out

Kevin wins PoV: Uses it on himself, he votes Betty out

Haleena wins PoV: Leaves the nominations the same, she votes Betty out

 

 

[The Crazed Spruce]

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Right now, there are exactly 6 outcomes:

1. Josh keeps everything the same, Heleena votes out Betty.
2. Josh keeps everything the same, Heleena backstabs Kevin and votes him off.
3. Josh pulls Kevin from the block, Kevin votes out Betty.
4. Josh pulls Kevin from the block, Kevin backstabs Heleena and votes her off.
5. Josh pulls Betty off the block, Betty votes out Kevin.
6. Josh pulls Betty off the block, Betty votes out Heleena.

2 and 4 aren't likely (though 4 is more likely than 2, IMO), 1 and 3 are essentially the same, and Betty would be better off choosing 5 over 6. But neither of these scenarios has Josh directly voting anyone off. He can definitely affect how the final 3 shapes up, though.

And it would shock the hell outta me if Josh doesn't take Betty off the block, so if she knows what's best for her game, she'll vote out Kevin before the final 3. The question is, does she realize that?

 

[Joan of Argh]

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Ok so I didn't consider that Josh doesn't have a vote but still now that he won PoV he pulls betty off and lets her evict Kevin or Haleena. If Betty had won, she would use the PoV on herself and vote to evict Kevin or Haleena. If Kevin or Haleena had won the PoV, Betty would be the one they would evict. So all in all why does it matter who was on the block in the first place?

Josh wins PoV: Uses it on Betty, Betty votes K or H out

Betty wins PoV: Uses it on herself, she votes K or H out

Kevin wins PoV: Uses it on himself, he votes Betty out

Haleena wins PoV: Leaves the nominations the same, she votes Betty out

 

 

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Exactly, that’s what I’ve been saying for the last 2 hours… Josh has no vote 
 

no sole vote, no any type of vote… all he does is choose who is on the block

 

[himela]

15 minutes ago, The Crazed Spruce said:

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Right now, there are exactly 6 outcomes:

1. Josh keeps everything the same, Heleena votes out Betty.
2. Josh keeps everything the same, Heleena backstabs Kevin and votes him off.
3. Josh pulls Kevin from the block, Kevin votes out Betty.
4. Josh pulls Kevin from the block, Kevin backstabs Heleena and votes her off.
5. Josh pulls Betty off the block, Betty votes out Kevin.
6. Josh pulls Betty off the block, Betty votes out Heleena.

2 and 4 aren't likely (though 4 is more likely than 2, IMO), 1 and 3 are essentially the same, and Betty would be better off choosing 5 over 6. But neither of these scenarios has Josh directly voting anyone off. He can definitely affect how the final 3 shapes up, though.

And it would shock the hell outta me if Josh doesn't take Betty off the block, so if she knows what's best for her game, she'll vote out Kevin before the final 3. The question is, does she realize that?

 

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Taran has been saying Betty wants Kevin out since the next day she became HoH so I don't know why we are wondering that. Betty and Josh are trashtalking Kevin for a week now and their intend was to vote him off since Josh and Kevin became friends again so, Betty FOR SURE votes Kevin out. Unless Kevin creates some drama or some story out of thin air that includes throwing Haleena under the bus, saying she has final twos with everyone in the jury, saying Marty, Jayce, Summer are sure votes for her and so on he is out. Kevin needs to make a story up in order to survive but I don't think it will work because Betty hates him very much at the moment, she says he is the devil. I think even if Betty gets convinced that Kevin loses next to anyone, she still doesn't keep him because she hates him.

 

[Dustbunny]

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I can't wait to see petty Betty's face when Josh leaves her on the block and Haleena evicts her!  😂🤣😂  bye, bye Betty!!

Crash Test Dummies final 3  😁👍

 

[Joan of Argh]

15 minutes ago, Dustbunny said:

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I can't wait to see petty Betty's face when Josh leaves her on the block and Haleena evicts her!  😂🤣😂  bye, bye Betty!!

Crash Test Dummies final 3  😁👍

 

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I knew Josh was up to something when he didn’t put Haleena on the block with Kevin… see ya later Betty! 😋 she’ll be so pissed and I’m gonna lmao 🤣 

 

[himela]

14 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

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I knew Josh was up to something when he didn’t put Haleena on the block with Kevin… see ya later Betty! 😋 she’ll be so pissed and I’m gonna lmao 🤣 

 

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How did you come to this conclusion? In the diary room he made it obvious he wants Kevin out. Did I miss something?

 

[Harry Wails]

19 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

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I knew Josh was up to something when he didn’t put Haleena on the block with Kevin… see ya later Betty! 😋 she’ll be so pissed and I’m gonna lmao 🤣 

 

I agree, I was wondering why Josh didn't put Haleena on the block with Kevin but after he explained his plan to take Haleena to final 2 and use her perfect record against her to the jury it made perfect sense and it might just work. 

In my opinion there's no way that Haleena will evict Kevin and he can't take Betty down and put Haleena up without wrecking his plan for a final 2 with an unblemished Haleena so he kind of painted himself into the corner, will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

Betty was stupid to tell Josh how she has so many friends in the jury that will vote for her to win

I'm a diehard Ghost fan, still hoping for a final 2 with Kev and Haleena! 👻

 

 

[Dustbunny]

59 minutes ago, Munchkin said:

I agree, I was wondering why Josh didn't put Haleena on the block with Kevin but after he explained his plan to take Haleena to final 2 and use her perfect record against her to the jury it made perfect sense and it might just work. 

In my opinion there's no way that Haleena will evict Kevin and he can't take Betty down and put Haleena up without wrecking his plan for a final 2 with an unblemished Haleena so he kind of painted himself into the corner, will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

Betty was stupid to tell Josh how she has so many friends in the jury that will vote for her to win

I'm a diehard Ghost fan, still hoping for a final 2 with Kev and Haleena! 👻

 

 

Exactly, Josh will have to choose one way or the other

Josh can leave the noms the same and hope that Haleena evicts Kevin (which she won't) or he can take Betty down and give up his plan of going to F2 with as you said an "unblemished" Haleena

I'm hoping that Haleena promises Josh that she'll evict Kevin and then just blindsides Josh and sends Betty out the door

and yes Betty bragging to Josh about all the jury votes she has was stupid!  🥴

 

[The Crazed Spruce]

Reminder to spoiler-tag anything that happens on the live stream that hasn't aired yet on the show.

[Joan of Argh]

Not sure what happened…did I miss something?

Munchkin quoted me and I want to reply and discuss it, just wondering why his/her post was deleted so I don’t make any mistakes  🤷‍♀️
Is it about live feed spoiler tags? The feeds ended a week ago so I’m not sure how that would be the problem.

 

[Joan of Argh]

Yay!!!! So glad Kevin made it to final 3

He deserves the win more than anyone, he played a great game of manipulation and Josh benefited from Kevin's skills of getting people to do whatever he wanted.

Go Kev, GO!!!!  🎉🥳

[The Crazed Spruce]

Still rooting for Josh, but like I said before, there's money involved.

He's also the most likable person left, but that's entirely besides the point....

(BTW, I didn't recall seeing anything about Josh keeping Heleena on the show, so I assumed once the report came in that it happened on the live feed. My apologies. The posts have been restored.)

[Harry Wails]

4 minutes ago, The Crazed Spruce said:

Still rooting for Josh, but like I said before, there's money involved.

He's also the most likable person left, but that's entirely besides the point....

I'm rooting for Kev but I'd be ok with Josh winning 👍

can't stand the thought of petty Betty winning 👎