S03.E02: Star Witness

[Cherry Cola]

I was thinking about Miscaviage's treatment of the execs again, and I just want to know why don't they band together and beat the shit out of him? I know it's not right, but they could stop this madness, if its many against 1. 

[Lady Iris]

On ‎11‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 1:01 PM, libgirl2 said:

Its amazing that she could just vanish and no one cares. 

Least of all her husband who doesn't look like he could give a rat's ass that his wife's been presumably missing for several years. Watching this show and hearing how people are treated makes me very fearful for what she could be going through.

[Chaos Theory]

1 hour ago, Cherry Cola said:

I was thinking about Miscaviage's treatment of the execs again, and I just want to know why don't they band together and beat the shit out of him? I know it's not right, but they could stop this madness, if its many against 1. 

Justifiable homicide? But seriously he probably has armed guards with armed guards and snipers.  Anyone who has been green lit wouldn’t  get close.

48 minutes ago, Lady Iris said:

Least of all her husband who doesn't look like he could give a rat's ass that his wife's been presumably missing for several years. Watching this show and hearing how people are treated makes me very fearful for what she could be going through.

She is probably long dead.  If she is still alive it would have behooved  him to make a tape of her telling everyone that she is perfectly happy where she is and to leave her the fuck alone.  Hell I don’t get why he didn’t do that before he put a bullet  in her head anyway.  

Either that or she is alive and stronger then anyone believes her to be and hubby can’t kill her until he makes that tape which...she...just....won’t...do.

Edited December 5, 2018 by Chaos Theory

[Rlb8031]

2 minutes ago, Chaos Theory said:

Justifiable homicide? But seriously he probably has armed guards with armed guards and snipers.  Anyone who has been green lit wouldn’t  get close.

She is probably long dead.  If she is still alive it would have behooved  him to make a tape of her telling everyone that she is perfectly happy where she is and to leave her the fuck alone.  Hell I don’t get why he didn’t do that before he put a bullet  in her head anyway.  

Either that or she is alive and stronger then anyone believes her to be and hubby can’t kill her until he makes that rape which...she...just....won’t...do.

There were a couple of reported (reputable) sightings of her in some small northern CA town. I believe that a former Co$ member said they saw her at the grocery store with two very large gentlemen escorting her. Another person saw her going into/out of a shop in the same or another nearby town. My recollection was that wherever it was, Co$ has property there which is why it was deemed somewhat credible, but no one has ever actually spoken with her. 

[italianguy626]

3 hours ago, Cherry Cola said:

I was thinking about Miscaviage's treatment of the execs again, and I just want to know why don't they band together and beat the shit out of him? I know it's not right, but they could stop this madness, if its many against 1. 

That would be like asking the Roman Catholic Church's College of Cardinals to beat the shit out of the Pope. Not gonna happen, and Miss Cabbage has bodyguards (ie. his Swiss Guard) to protect him.

[Cherry Cola]

2 hours ago, italianguy626 said:

That would be like asking the Roman Catholic Church's College of Cardinals to beat the shit out of the Pope. Not gonna happen, and Miss Cabbage has bodyguards (ie. his Swiss Guard) to protect him.

True.  But to me, an average Joe, it seems so crazy that they let them selves be treated so poorly. 

[CrystalBlue]

6 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

There were a couple of reported (reputable) sightings of her in some small northern CA town. I believe that a former Co$ member said they saw her at the grocery store with two very large gentlemen escorting her. Another person saw her going into/out of a shop in the same or another nearby town. My recollection was that wherever it was, Co$ has property there which is why it was deemed somewhat credible, but no one has ever actually spoken with her. 

This was in Big Bear, California, a small mountain town in San Bernardino County, which is next to Riverside County, where the Gold Base is.  All of this is in Southern California.

Here's an article from October 2017 about Shelly.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4946072/Ex-Scientologist-says-Shelly-Miscavige-hell.html

Edited December 6, 2018 by CrystalBlue
Added article link.

[CrystalBlue]

1 hour ago, Cherry Cola said:

True.  But to me, an average Joe, it seems so crazy that they let them selves be treated so poorly. 

These people are brainwashed.  They are not thinking like the average Joe.

[Lugal]

19 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

She is probably long dead.  If she is still alive it would have behooved  him to make a tape of her telling everyone that she is perfectly happy where she is and to leave her the fuck alone.  Hell I don’t get why he didn’t do that before he put a bullet  in her head anyway.

Either that or she has been audited to the point she's nothing more than a drooling vegetable.

14 hours ago, Cherry Cola said:

True.  But to me, an average Joe, it seems so crazy that they let them selves be treated so poorly. 

I've worked for a few psychopaths (although nothing near the level of Miss Cabbage) that being treated poorly is something that sadly, you get used to.  I can't imagine how much worse it would be with CO$ brainwashing on top of it.

[DrSparkles]

21 hours ago, Cherry Cola said:

I was thinking about Miscaviage's treatment of the execs again, and I just want to know why don't they band together and beat the shit out of him? I know it's not right, but they could stop this madness, if its many against 1. 

If it's not right, I want to be wrong.

[iMonrey]

WRT the way these private eyes follow people around, I wonder why the people being followed can't take out a restraining order. Maybe it's because you have to name a specific person and they don't know the person's name. Or if they do the CO$ will just hire someone else to follow them so the follower is always changing. But there should be a legal way to stop that kind of harassment. 

So, this is the second episode in a row where a fellow Scientologist did not "disconnect" from someone who had left the church - that woman's father last week and now this guy. This guy paid a huge price for not firing Mike Rinder, but what price did that woman's father pay, if any?

Edited December 6, 2018 by iMonrey

[Temperance]

I'm just getting into this show. One thing no one mentioned on this thread is that Valerie's parents were scientologists when she was born. She had no concept of the world outside scientology. She also has no formal schooling and no diplomas. Plus she has no references and no "work experience" beyond scientology. I would be interested in seeing how Valerie's home-schooled/scientology school education stacks up against a normally educated person although they may have done this with Leah. 

[Kromm]

On 11/28/2018 at 10:15 PM, ramble said:

Valerie’s story made me stop and think, once again, that Miscavige is an ass of a man. What kind of weirdo uses puppets to humiliate his executives, or has them wear paper plate masks to talk through? There is something seriously screwed up in his head. He deserves to be back handed by a long line of people and then thrown in his own personal hole for a number of years. Personally I think his buddy Tom should go with him. I wholeheartedly believe, no matter what good guy act he puts on, that Cruise is aware of the crazy control crap Davey practices. They can lick the floor or clean the bathroom with toothbrushes while being screamed at in 100+ degree heat. At this point this doesn’t sound like a “religion” at all. It sounds like a vehicle existing to feed a psychopath’s fantasies and make lots of money. 

To the mystery is how he's been so magically immune to assault charges. There have been so many mentions of his physical abuse, and while some still in Scientology deny it, those outside don't, and even support each other's stories. Mike Rinder for example has talked about being assaulted, and as I recall 4 or 5 other people interviewed have said they SAW him assaulted. 

I guess it must be nice to be rich, since even multiple witnesses of assault apparently don't merit prosecution when you are.