Season 20: Live Feed Discussion

[Brian Cronin]

6 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Tyler told Kaycee he has a plan, so there's another reason for me to hope he doesn't get taken off so I can see what his plan is.

I just realized there are only 3 people that definitely won't take Tyler off. Maybe 5 because JC is a wild card and hopefully Bay wouldn't be that dumb. And I guess maybe Scottie wouldn't really go through with taking Tyler off. I mean I really hope he wouldn't be that dumb, but he seems to really buy that Tyler loves him lol.

Not for nothing, but of all of the "snowed" people, Scottie has the most reason to believe Tyler, since Bayleigh told him it separately, ya know? So he got from a unbiased third party that Tyler likes him. That's usually a pretty good method of getting the truth on these things. He just didn't know that Tyler was trying to play fifth dimensional chess while Bayleigh was barely playing checkers.

[TimWil]

This Hacker twist is just 100 shades of bulls**t and I would have expressed the same opinion if Tyler, Brett or Kaycee had been the recipient. It’s just way too much power given to an individual player. Was Grodner panicking because Kaitlyn had left, Tyler’s overall victory seemed inevitable and Angela (who’d barely been spotted on the CBS show) was HoH? It has such a “pulled out of Grodner’s ass” smell to it. I hope if Moonves really does leave in disgrace (Farrow has apparently written an equally damning follow-up piece) then Grodner will end up as collateral damage.

Edited August 4, 2018 by TimWil

[peachmangosteen]

True actually and Tyler has been really playing Scottie well these past 2 days. 

Kaycee thinks the Hacker will pick Scottie for veto and Angela thinks they'll pick Faysal.

I just think the better feeds will come from Tyler not being taken down. He is very likely to still stay anyway.

ETA: Although I am mildly interested in how people would justify saving Tyler and what Angela would say when replacing him.

Edited August 4, 2018 by peachmangosteen

[Brian Cronin]

5 minutes ago, TimWil said:

This Hacker twist is just 100 shades of bulls**t and I would have expressed the same opinion if Tyler, Brett or Kaycee had been the recipient. It’s just way too much power given to an individual player. Was Grodner panicking because Kaitlyn had left, Tyler’s overall victory seemed inevitable and Angela (who’d barely been spotted on the CBS show) was HoH? It has such a “pulled out of Grodner’s ass” smell to it. I hope if Moonves really does leave in disgrace (Farrow has apparently written an equally damning follow-up piece) then Grodner will end up as collateral damage.

The Hacker twist was already in the works pre-Angela HoH, so I don't think it was about helping or hurting any particular HG. In fact, I think they're probably irked that it might fuck Tyler over this week. I think it is just them being morons and thinking that more powers = better TV. 

[zorak]

Kaycee is talking to Angela and just confirmed what I had been wondering about:  Scottie was lying to Kaycee when he told her that Rachel had told him that she and Kaycee had a final 2.  I couldn't imagine why Rachel would have told him that when it wasn't even true but I also couldn't figure out why Scottie would even lie about knowing about it since Rachel is already out of the house.  I'm pretty sure he told Tyler the same thing yesterday.  It makes no sense.  I guess when he told Kaycee that he knew, he was looking her straight in the eye.  Angela and Kaycee agree that it means that Scottie has mastered the art of lying to you when looking right into your eyes.

[Wings]

13 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

True actually and Tyler had been really playing Scottie well these past 2 days. 

Kaycee thinks the Hacker will pick Scottie for veto and Angela thinks they'll pick Faysal.

I just think the better feeds will come from Tyler not being taken down. He is very likely to still stay anyway.

How other than winning the veto?  I am catching up.  

Edited August 4, 2018 by Wings

[Brian Cronin]

4 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

True actually and Tyler has been really playing Scottie well these past 2 days. 

Kaycee thinks the Hacker will pick Scottie for veto and Angela thinks they'll pick Faysal.

I just think the better feeds will come from Tyler not being taken down. He is very likely to still stay anyway.

ETA: Although I am mildly interested in how people would justify saving Tyler and what Angela would say when replacing him.

If he doesn't come down, I don't see how he stays. Either Kaycee, Sam or Brett get their vote nullified. 

So it is Kaycee, Brett and JC voting out Rockstar and then Haleigh and Fessy voting out Tyler and then Scottie and Bayleigh as the POSSIBLE wild cards, but how could they possibly want to keep Tyler over Rockstar? I think Tyler definitely goes if he is still on the block post-Veto. 

[Ceeg]

Yeah I think Tyler is gone if he doesn’t come down. He’d be fine if there wasn’t a vote nullified, but he’s fucked. Haleigh will push the Hive to vote him out IMO. Otherwise why even put him up?

[peachmangosteen]

22 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

Scottie and Bayleigh as the POSSIBLE wild cards, but how could they possibly want to keep Tyler over Rockstar?

Because they're idiots lol. They've both proven that time and time again!

I do think odds are good one of them would vote Tyler out, but one of them will keep him.

But Tyler going is 100% awesome to me anyway. And I just wanna see L4 all sad and butthurt lol. That just sounds so fun to me!

I'll personally be shocked of Tyler isn't taken off the block though. I figure he himself will win veto, which is the most boring outcome. It'd be more interesting if one of L4 or JC wins.

Edited August 5, 2018 by peachmangosteen

[Sandycat]

Fessy questioning Haleigh again if she is the hacker. He said earlier that it has to be someone he is working with. I think he has figured it out. Haleigh, I’m sure, is banking on Angela putting up Scottie again if Tyler wins veto. I so hope Bayleigh gets nominated just to see Haleigh’s face!

[D.CBies]

1 minute ago, Ceeg said:

Yeah I think Tyler is gone if he doesn’t come down. He’d be fine if there wasn’t a vote nullified, but he’s fucked. Haleigh will push the Hive to vote him out IMO. Otherwise why even put him up?

Remember, Tyler also still has his cloud app. Doesn’t he? ? God I sure hope so. 

[zorak]

4 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

If he doesn't come down, I don't see how he stays. Either Kaycee, Sam or Brett get their vote nullified. 

So it is Kaycee, Brett and JC voting out Rockstar and then Haleigh and Fessy voting out Tyler and then Scottie and Bayleigh as the POSSIBLE wild cards, but how could they possibly want to keep Tyler over Rockstar? I think Tyler definitely goes if he is still on the block post-Veto. 

I could see Bayleigh as wanting to keep Tyler over Rockstar.  She's over Rockstar and has already talked to various people about the fact that Rockstar needs to go but she doesn't feel she can be the one to directly take her out.  Right or wrong, fair or not, she still seems to trust Tyler and he's proven he can actually win stuff, so she probably feels like he would protect her if they're working together.

[D.CBies]

3 minutes ago, Ceeg said:

Yeah I think Tyler is gone if he doesn’t come down. He’d be fine if there wasn’t a vote nullified, but he’s fucked. Haleigh will push the Hive to vote him out IMO. Otherwise why even put him up?

Doesn’t Tyler still have his Cloud app?

[Wings]

Just now, D.CBies said:

Remember, Tyler also still has his cloud app. Doesn’t he? ? God I sure hope so. 

As I understand it, he has to use it before nominations or before the veto ceremony. 

[Ceeg]

1 minute ago, D.CBies said:

Remember, Tyler also still has his cloud app. Doesn’t he? ? God I sure hope so. 

He can’t use it at this point. It only works before nominations or before veto. 

[peachmangosteen]

Say Haleigh/Faysal wins veto, would they just leave the noms the same? Or would they take RS down?

Edited August 4, 2018 by peachmangosteen

[D.CBies]

Just now, Ceeg said:

He can’t use it at this point. It only works before nominations or before veto. 

Oooooh. ?

[Lady Calypso]

1 minute ago, peachmangosteen said:

Say haleigh/faysal wins veto, would they just leave the noms the same? Or would they take RS down?

They might take Rockstar down, but it depends if they know that Bayleigh could flip to save Tyler.

[D.CBies]

1 minute ago, Wings said:

As I understand it, he has to use it before nominations or before the veto ceremony. 

Oooh, I see. Yikes! 

[Brian Cronin]

3 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Say haleigh/faysal wins veto, would they just leave the noms the same? Or would they take RS down?

I imagine they would leave it the same and explain to RS about the nullified vote.

EDITED TO ADD: That's assuming that Fessy would go along with what Haleigh wants. He might go rogue for all I know. 

Edited August 4, 2018 by Brian Cronin

[Ceeg]

1 minute ago, peachmangosteen said:

Say Haleigh/Faysal wins veto, would they just leave the noms the same? Or would they take RS down?

Fessy might take Tyler down if he can guarantee Bay or Hay don’t go to. Haleigh won’t use it IMO. 

[Brian Cronin]

"Congrats, Tyler, here's a power to keep yourself off the block. Oh, but just so you know, we're going to introduce a second power weeks from now to nullify this one because we're morons"

[peachmangosteen]

1 minute ago, Ceeg said:

Fessy might take Tyler down if he can guarantee Bay or Hay don’t go to.

I can't see this happening because Haleigh would lose it on him and he would lose all hope of her fucking him lol.

Edited August 4, 2018 by peachmangosteen

[Brian Cronin]

7 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Because they're idiots lol. They've both proven that time and time again!

I do think odds are good one of them would vote Tyler out, but one of them will keep him.

But Tyler going is 100% awesome to me anyway. And I just wanna see L4 all sad and butthurt lol. That just sounds so fun to me!

I'll personally be shocked of Tyler isn't taken off the block though. I fugue he himself will win veto, which is the most boring outcome. It'd be more interesting if one of L4 or JC wins.

But since Angela is HoH, there's no drama in an L4 member winning, either. With JC, there's at least a LITTLE drama. 

Just now, peachmangosteen said:

I can't see this happening because Haleigh would lose it on him and he would lose all hope of her fucking him lol.

Yeah, I'm assuming that, in the end, Fessy will just do whatever Haliegh tells him to for his creepy ass reasons. 

[peachmangosteen]

2 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

"Congrats, Tyler, here's a power to keep yourself off the block. Oh, but just so you know, we're going to introduce a second power weeks from now to nullify this one because we're morons"

I feel like this is what makes this hacker thing so stupid. Well everything about it is stupid I guess!

Veto pick time!

[zorak]

Stalker alert.  Haleigh and Faysal were in the bed facing each other.  Then she turned around the other way and it looked like he actually pulled her closer to him under the covers.  Gross.

[peachmangosteen]

1 minute ago, Brian Cronin said:

But since Angela is HoH, there's no drama in an L4 member winning, either. With JC, there's at least a LITTLE drama. 

But if L4 wins they have to justify using it after telling the other side they won't. And we get to see if Angela is a bitch in her replacement speech.

[Ceeg]

I’m guessing Fessy will be the Hacker pick. 

[ByaNose]

I’m assuming that Grodner is making the changes of the POV to help Tyler, right? Unless, she thinks he’s making it too easy and really wants him out. LOL!!!

[Ceeg]

Just now, peachmangosteen said:

But if L4 wins they have to justify using it after telling the other side they won't. And we get to see if Angela is a bitch in her replacement speech.

They’ve justified 4 weeks of flipped votes and the other side bought it. 

[Brian Cronin]

10 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

But if L4 wins they have to justify using it after telling the other side they won't. And we get to see if Angela is a bitch in her replacement speech.

How hard would it be to justify replacing someone who was "hacked" on to the block?

[Lady Calypso]

15 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I feel like this is what makes this hacker thing so stupid. Well everything about it is stupid I guess!

Veto pick time!

The hacker thing is stupid, NOT Haleigh's move. Haleigh's move is smart, it's good for her game, and it's big. I do NOT blame Haleigh for this twist. She's doing what she can to try to make a move that's good for her. Nobody else would have. Rockstar would have 100% put up Brett. Nobody else would have had the guts to do what Haleigh did, even under a secret power. What Haleigh did is cement herself with me as one of the better players this season. If she won HOH and made this move as well, it would be even better. It's just that the hacker twist is dumb due to three different powers getting to be used at all three ceremonies. That's OP (overpowered) as hell.

I felt like this when Sam had her house meeting and if someone like Brett had won it, I'd be equally as annoyed because nobody needs this kind of power. Yes, it doesn't mean the Hacker is safe from noms. Yes, it doesn't guarantee anything. But this season didn't need any twists. They've proven to be just fine without them. If anything, BB fucked themselves with their twists. Sam's Bonus Life was relied on too heavily, as production had NO back-up plan for Kaitlyn losing the comeback challenge. How do you NOT have a backup? How do you rely so heavily on a twist that has a 1% chance of failing (and then Kaitlyn being that 1%)?

And now, they introduce a twist that nullifies one power completely and renders the second one completely useless. 

Yeah, good going Big Brother.

Edited August 4, 2018 by Lady Calypso

[zorak]

Brett and Scottie are also playing in the veto.

[Lady Calypso]

Just now, zorak said:

Brett and Scottie are also playing in the veto.

Sounds like the Hacker picked...Kaycee? 

Oh, they really don't want that veto used, it seems. 

[ByaNose]

1 minute ago, Lady Calypso said:

The hacker thing is stupid, NOT Haleigh's move. Haleigh's move is smart, it's good for her game, and it's big. I do NOT blame Haleigh for this twist. She's doing what she can to try to make a move that's good for her. Nobody else would have. Rockstar would have 100% put up Brett. Nobody else would have had the guts to do what Haleigh did, even under a secret power. What Haleigh did is cement herself with me as one of the better players this season. If she won HOH and made this move as well, it would be even better. It's just that the hacker twist is dumb due to three different powers getting to be used at all three ceremonies. That's OP (overpowered) as hell.

I felt like this when Sam had her house meeting and if someone like Brett had won it, I'd be equally as annoyed because nobody needs this kind of power. Yes, it doesn't mean the Hacker is safe from noms. Yes, it doesn't guarantee anything. But this season didn't need any twists. They've proven to be just fine without them. If anything, BB fucked themselves with their twists. Sam's Bonus Life was relied on too heavily, as production had NO back-up plan for Kaitlyn losing the comeback challenge. How do you NOT have a backup? How do you rely so heavily on a twist that has a 1% chance of failing (and then Kaitlyn being that 1%)?

And now, they introduce a twist that nullifies one power completely and renders the second one completely useless. 

Yeah, good going Big Brother.

Yeah, Hay made a good game move. It’s not her fault & it’s not like she’s cheating. It’s just that whole Hacker twist is not or was not needed. Personally, I blame Kaitlyn. LOL!!!

[Lady Calypso]

Aww, I just realized that maybe Haleigh picked Kaycee because she wants her to play in her first veto.

Or she just really wants Tyler to win veto, or for noms to stay the same. I don't know what Haleigh's process is but I'm going with my first option.

[zorak]

Rockstar is such a Debbie Downer.  She's already in her doom and gloom headspace of not being able to win the veto even though she says she'll try to win it.

[Alice Mudgarden]

10 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Faysal is the guy that you totally ghost after the third date

You'd make it to date three? After the first date I'd be tapping out.

[Ceeg]

So basically, if anyone but RS wins, Tyler is coming down?

[zorak]

1 minute ago, Lady Calypso said:

Aww, I just realized that maybe Haleigh picked Kaycee because she wants her to play in her first veto.

Or she just really wants Tyler to win veto, or for noms to stay the same. I don't know what Haleigh's process is but I'm going with my first option.

Are we sure that Kaycee playing is a result of the hacker thing?  I know Angela said that if she had a choice, she wanted Kaycee to play because obviously Kaycee is on their side but also because Kaycee had never played before.  

[Lady Calypso]

Just now, zorak said:

Are we sure that Kaycee playing is a result of the hacker thing?  I know Angela said that if she had a choice, she wanted Kaycee to play because obviously Kaycee is on their side but also because Kaycee had never played before.  

Yes. I just rewound to watch when the feeds came back, and they made it clear that the Hacker chose Kaycee. Kaycee said that the Hacker picked her.

[zorak]

3 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

Yes. I just rewound to watch when the feeds came back, and they made it clear that the Hacker chose Kaycee. Kaycee said that the Hacker picked her.

Good to know.  So do we know if Scottie and Brett's names were actually drawn or if they got chosen because Angela or Tyler's names were drawn and then they got to do Houseguest's Choice?

[zorak]

JC was laying in a bed with Faysal.  Then he looked over at Haleigh and asked if she wanted to switch spaces.  She said, "No, and I really want you to stop making those comments that you made."  Faysal agreed.  Apparently, JC made a comment saying that she and Faysal were having sex in the back room.  JC said, "Everyone knows I'm joking.  Don't take it personal."

[Brian Cronin]

Picking Kaycee does throw people off of her scent, so that's something. The problem there is that it obscures it SO much that it makes it evident that that is why Kaycee was picked, ya know? If she picked Bayleigh or Scottie, then people might think Bayleigh or Scottie were the hacker. No one is going to think Kaycee was the hacker.

[Alice Mudgarden]

2 minutes ago, zorak said:

JC said, "Everyone knows I'm joking.  Don't take it personal."

Personally. Don't take it personally.

Also, it is personal, JC.

Also also, if someone asks you to stop - let alone both people - you stop. Maybe you don't care about a video of you fucking a minion floating around the internet, but not everyone wants stuff like that out everywhere. Doubly so if what you're saying isn't even true.

[Wings]

So who  are playing veto?  Tyler, Kaycee, Brett, Angela.... who else.  RS?  The recent monsoon wreaked havoc and the pool guy is out there now.  I am buzzing it to check.  Thanks in advance. 

4 minutes ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

Personally. Don't take it personally.

LOL!  Adverbs are slowly dying.   ;> 

Edited August 4, 2018 by Wings

[zorak]

1 minute ago, Wings said:

LOL!  Adverbs are slowly dying.   ;> 

Considering that English isn't his first language, I'll give JC a pass on his incorrect use of the word "personal".  But that's about the only thing I'll give him a pass for.

[Alice Mudgarden]

2 minutes ago, zorak said:

Considering that English isn't his first language, I'll give JC a pass on his incorrect use of the word "personal".  But that's about the only thing I'll give him a pass for.

That's very fair. I'm just soooo used to people saying that, that it became such an annoyance for me haha

[Ceeg]

10 minutes ago, Wings said:

So who  are playing veto?  Tyler, Kaycee, Brett, Angela.... who else.  RS?  The recent monsoon wreaked havoc and the pool guy is out there now.  I am buzzing it to check.  Thanks in advance. 

Tyler, RS, Angela, Scottie, Brett, KC. 

[peachmangosteen]

So Tyler has a 5 out of 6 chance to get taken off. LMAO!