S03.E10: Redemption 2018.05.27

[PrincessPurrsALot]

Axe explores an unappealing investment at a desperate moment. Taylor makes a personal compromise for business. Chuck suspects a major foe may be on to his scheme. Sacker calls in a favor from the FBI. Wendy advises an Axe Capper to make bold moves.

[PrincessPurrsALot]

OK show, don't hurt Taylor.  When Taylor gets hurt, I have now learned I cry.  I ugly cry.  I scare the cat.  That is no way to spend a Sunday evening.  I am now hoping Taylor takes down Axe.

On a happier note, I did enjoy the elevator dance even if it made absolutely no sense at all that this would have been the moment chosen to make a "bold" move. 

[scrb]

Silly me, I thought Wendy would whip up a home-cooked meal.

So  Chuck takes advantage of Sacker's connection behind her back while Axe takes advantage of Taylor's connections behind Taylor's back.

Chuck apologized and said he had to risk losing her later if it meant having Kate work for him now.

Bobby said hey, "we got the capital we needed and you've earned your bonus!"

Well Taylor should have known Axe is shameless.  He tried to get the firemen's union to invest with him despite his 9/11 antics.  "Too soon?" he sneered.

But he was apparently touched by Grigor's revelation that it was his mother who was gang raped in his little psychotic story.  So touched that he visited his own mom.

He had gotten another lesson in the importance of family earlier on from that pizzeria owner whose nephew he screwed over last year.

Now maybe Taylor gets that she's just the hired help.  

[Dminches]

6 hours ago, scrb said:

Bobby said hey, "we got the capital we needed and you've earned your bonus!"

Well Taylor should have known Axe is shameless.  He tried to get the firemen's union to invest with him despite his 9/11 antics.  "Too soon?" he sneered.

But he was apparently touched by Grigor's revelation that it was his mother who was gang raped in his little psychotic story.  So touched that he visited his own mom.

He had gotten another lesson in the importance of family earlier on from that pizzeria owner whose nephew he screwed over last year.

Now maybe Taylor gets that she's just the hired help.  

Didn't Taylor basically admit (by her lack of denial) that she mentioned who was going to dinner to tip Axe off?  I assumed that's what she told Oscar and why they broke up.

No?

[MaryWebGirl]

2 hours ago, Dminches said:

Didn't Taylor basically admit (by her lack of denial) that she mentioned who was going to dinner to tip Axe off?  I assumed that's what she told Oscar and why they broke up.

No?

I think they were just trying to impress Axe. 

I thought Axe's line about how his kids think he can fly was interesting. I hope that was foreshadowing that at some point soon he'll realize that they don't and that's a gut check for him. You'd think Wendy would have talked to him about it by now.

[PrincessPurrsALot]

29 minutes ago, MaryWebGirl said:

I think they were just trying to impress Axe. 

I thought Axe's line about how his kids think he can fly was interesting. I hope that was foreshadowing that at some point soon he'll realize that they don't and that's a gut check for him. You'd think Wendy would have talked to him about it by now.

I think they were trying to impress Axe too.  We did see the consistent theme of both Chuck and Axe taking advantage of and potentially harming people close to them to further their own goals.  We also have Taylor addressing the issue that has been big for both Chuck and Axe - do you risk your family/close personal relationships for advancement?  They offered one up without meaning to, but, in hindsight, had to know what would have happened.

[txhorns79]

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I hope that was foreshadowing that at some point soon he'll realize that they don't and that's a gut check for him. You'd think Wendy would have talked to him about it by now.

Yeah, I figure that's going to be a hard lesson for Axe.  He seems determined to benignly neglect his kids. 

I did like the scene between Taylor and Wendy.  It's one of those nice moments where you have two solid actors showing you why they were hired for the job. 

As for Chuck, I feel like they have no idea what to do with him.  The AG is mostly a cartoon, and I'm not particularly invested in taking him down. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Does Frotty always carry around a spare tie because he knows that he’s going to spill food on it?

That curly-haired woman is annoying.

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Frotty is suppose to be managing billions of Arab money but he wanted to do the deal with Axe to boost his reputation with his investors and he also wanted to know the actual trades that Axe Capital made, again to help his investment business.

While he may not be as successful as Axe, you'd think he'd be able to get women, like the kind Wags gets for himself and Bobby.

Yet he's suppose to be this degenerate who rubs himself up on people and hence the derisive name they give him?

[Dminches]

David Krumholtz did not look good in his role as Frotty.  Hopefully there isn't a health issue at play.  In "The Deuce" he was 50 pounds heavier than he was before that role and after, in Billions.

[txhorns79]

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David Krumholtz did not look good in his role as Frotty.  Hopefully there isn't a health issue at play.  In "The Deuce" he was 50 pounds heavier than he was before that role and after, in Billions.

I believe his appearance on The Deuce had been related to weight gain that was a side effect of treatment he had received for cancer.  In terms of this episode, I presume Krumholtz's look was the result of make up, wardrobe and acting choices, as the whole point of the character was that he was supposed to be repulsive and someone who Axe would normally avoid.        

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3 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

I believe his appearance on The Deuce had been related to weight gain that was a side effect of treatment he had received for cancer.  In terms of this episode, I presume Krumholtz's look was the result of make up, wardrobe and acting choices, as the whole point of the character was that he was supposed to be repulsive and someone who Axe would normally avoid.        

Thing is, most of the other rich people portrayed on the show come off as creepy or weird or wannabes.

Only Axe is cool, wears Metallica T-shirts, knows everything about the cool toys, like vintage cars and motorcycles, can relate to working class people.

Every other rich people are poseurs like the other hedge fund guys or snobs like the Spartan Ives guy or criminals like Grigor.

 

Even Wags is portrayed like a cool dude who goes to cool places, parties like a rock star rather than a creepy old rich guy who preys on young escorts.

 

Lets face it, people who are ultra rich but want to keep making more, especially through shady deals and think they are too good for rules or laws are not good people.  No matter how many cool cultural references they can drop or how smart they seem.

 

Really the only negative light in which Axe is depicted is how humongous his sense of entitlement is.

[Dminches]

1 hour ago, scrb said:

Really the only negative light in which Axe is depicted is how humongous his sense of entitlement is.

 

Capitalizing on 9/11 didn’t make he look very good either.

[PBSLover]

On 5/28/2018 at 12:29 AM, scrb said:

Well Taylor should have known Axe is shameless.

Shameless is a kind word for what Axe is.

[kieyra]

New binge viewer yadda yadda.

I absolutely loathe the conceit that every major character on this show has a shared vocabulary of film references they’ve all seen. 

Also, I absolutely love Taylor as a character—99% of the time. Sorry, show, they may be a nerd but even I didn’t buy that deep cut into Rush album hierarchy references, never mind the Bob Dylan lyric picked up without a beat. Never mind that they also share the film junkie stuff. Taylor just doesn’t strike me as someone who values pop culture all that highly. I can just maybe get to a place where they view all information as meaningful and important, but that’s stuff that takes years to soak in, and they’re still suppose to be, what, 23 or 24?

So anyway, I was coming to post that, as a person who is sincerely fatigued by shows about Important White Dudes Doing Important (Criminal) Business, I’m glad this show chooses to keep characters with heart, including Mafee, Taylor, and the elevator dance guy (sorry, he hardly gets any lines so I don’t know his name off top of head), and to let us be happy for their little victories in the midst of the shark pool. Not sure I’d still be watching if not for them. I sure as hell don’t care about Bobby’s fate. 

Edit, then I load the next episode and now 

Taylor is an expert on both Molly Hatchet and Yngwie Malmsteen. No, show, I don’t believe you. Sorry. Just too young to be this combination of Gregory House, Wikipedia, and Spock.

Edited June 16, 2018 by kieyra

[Double A]

On 6/15/2018 at 10:45 PM, kieyra said:

New binge viewer yadda yadda.

I absolutely loathe the conceit that every major character on this show has a shared vocabulary of film references they’ve all seen. 

Also, I absolutely love Taylor as a character—99% of the time. Sorry, show, they may be a nerd but even I didn’t buy that deep cut into Rush album hierarchy references, never mind the Bob Dylan lyric picked up without a beat. Never mind that they also share the film junkie stuff. Taylor just doesn’t strike me as someone who values pop culture all that highly. I can just maybe get to a place where they view all information as meaningful and important, but that’s stuff that takes years to soak in, and they’re still suppose to be, what, 23 or 24?

So anyway, I was coming to post that, as a person who is sincerely fatigued by shows about Important White Dudes Doing Important (Criminal) Business, I’m glad this show chooses to keep characters with heart, including Mafee, Taylor, and the elevator dance guy (sorry, he hardly gets any lines so I don’t know his name off top of head), and to let us be happy for their little victories in the midst of the shark pool. Not sure I’d still be watching if not for them. I sure as hell don’t care about Bobby’s fate. 

Edit, then I load the next episode and now 

 

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Taylor is an expert on both Molly Hatchet and Yngwie Malmsteen. No, show, I don’t believe you. Sorry. Just too young to be this combination of Gregory House, Wikipedia, and Spock.

Ha! I agree except I suspend my reality and accept the breadth of reference because Taylor's background (in my mind) is they are an unclockable cyborg some lab released into the wild of wall street. So they are quite literally google in the so called flesh:)

[scrb]

Yeah the cultural references are about the writers showing off and giving this soapy show more apparent depth.

I like the dialog in Succession, which isn’t as obviously showy but often shows how the characters grok the world.

[The Solution]

Ben Kim is now officially my favorite character on this show and maybe all of television. It was getting hot in here while he was taking off all his clothes and then followed it up with the move needed to save the day. BK is a mothafuckin' PIMP!