Jersey Shore - General Discussion

[Kathy]

First day of San Diego family trip - wow, Angelina NEVER shuts up, ever.  Half hour of her not really even making any sense.  I just wanted to go to the pool party too!  I can just bet Uncle Nino is going to show up.

[aghst]

2 hours ago, Kathy said:

First day of San Diego family trip - wow, Angelina NEVER shuts up, ever.  Half hour of her not really even making any sense.  I just wanted to go to the pool party too!  I can just bet Uncle Nino is going to show up.

That's got to be egged on.  She probably is too much to be around but she and Jenni were going at it and everyone else wanted to get outside.

I guess that's what they have to do for that TV money, try to have some beef on social media to drive story ideas for the show.

Producers aren't going to have them be civil or even friendly all the time.  This is a reality show and it's suppose to be JS.

At first I thought they must have a huge budget.  But Hard Rock Cafe probably comped them all the rooms.  Still, they were bringing the whole extended family, not just spouses and kids but grandparents to watch the kids.

In previous trips they've gotten private jets for them.

I looked up ratings a bit.  In the OG run, they were reaching like 10 million viewers a week.  That's just about 10-12 years ago.

Now they're getting 300-500k and while that's a fraction, it's enough to win the night among cable shows for the week.

So that's why the cast all bought big McMansions, all have nice luxury cars.  Probably why Ronnie is itching to come back.

BTW in the opening credits, one of the pictures in the montage shows Ronnie.  I don't know if that's always been the case this season or they just slipped that in there this week.

I don't know why Pauly wasn't there, since he's nearby.  But he supposedly arranged the pool party -- like there wouldn't be a pool party at a big hotel pool all the time -- then said it was radio silence so they must be fighting.

Talk about scripted.

I do think Angelina and Jenni do get agitated and they don't mind screaming, ultimately they know MTV wants that, the way they repeatedly run clips of those arguments.

Angelina's role is to be "messy" on the show.  The meatballs still get drunk on the show but otherwise live sedate lives.  So they have to have Angelina have the wild single life.

Is that what she's like on camera?  When her sister appeared a couple of times, she was nothing like Angelina -- no heavy makeup with those lashes, clothing style different, sounded more educated.  Angelina may have taken a different path but what is her nickname, the "Staten Island dump?"

She also said last week when she's always around, Vinny has a boner.  This week she says Vinny has been hiding a girlfriend, either from the other cast or maybe from the show?

[Artsda]

I still don't understand how Angelina's messy has to do with anyone else. Why if she's cheating and messy is it Mike and Jenni's job to call it out and get involved. Podcasts, DMs with the other parties, investigating, telling the others in a group chat Angelina's not in. Spending all their time focused on Angelina's mess. It's her mess, say out of it. 

Where was Mike doing all this when Roger and Jenni's mess was all over the tabloids? The rest want to claim family privacy and respect for kids, but they bring all of Angelina's mess to talk about. 

[aghst]

1 hour ago, Artsda said:

I still don't understand how Angelina's messy has to do with anyone else. Why if she's cheating and messy is it Mike and Jenni's job to call it out and get involved. Podcasts, DMs with the other parties, investigating, telling the others in a group chat Angelina's not in. Spending all their time focused on Angelina's mess. It's her mess, say out of it. 

Where was Mike doing all this when Roger and Jenni's mess was all over the tabloids? The rest want to claim family privacy and respect for kids, but they bring all of Angelina's mess to talk about. 

Mike especially has a motive to have it blow up into social media spats and then these scenes of them badmouthing each other, some behind their backs, some to their faces.

Whether it works or not, producers probably like not having to come up with story ideas, they can just continue on the IG sniping on the show.

But they bickered, even got physical with each other back in the day.  It's part of what made them famous.

Now they're settled, with parenting responsibilities.  Deena and Snookie aren't getting heated, at least this time around.

Mike, who knows, does he want to be liked more by others or does he want to stir up shit, even if it makes some of them hate him for it?

Because he's probably thinking he's making up for lost time, to maximize that TV money which Snookie and Jenni have done.  Also Paulie, using his TV fame to get huge DJ gigs.

[JenLily]

Mike is a real dick this season. It pisses me off that he keeps causing problems and then portrays himself as the wounded victim when he gets called out on his crap. (Although I wish the fam would call him out to his face; they really have him pegged in their talking heads.) I guess he hasn't changed as much as he wants to believe he has.

[SilverLake0315]

So far, this season has succeeded in making me dislike Lauren.

[badmoon]

Jumped the Shark...

[Darkrain]

Snooki is really an alcoholic, she drinks more than everybody put it together, she drinks everyday.

[aghst]

I can't imagine she gets like that at home.

She may drink a few glasses of wine but can she be like that around the kids or her husband?

Or maybe she uses her TV money to hire maids and nannies and she doesn't interact with the rest of her family that much.

She's doing a second TV show and I won't watch it but it sounds like she won't have the chance to drink so much because it's in studio and she has to do things in a structured way.

So she may cut loose on these trips but presumably she's not doing it every day when she's home, which would be what an alcoholic would do, they couldn't just binge like that just some of the time.

Unless her drunken behavior is exaggerated for the cameras.  Or faked.

[aghst]

Nobody buys for one minute that Vinny is interested in Angelina, who may also be playing along for the camera.

For one thing, he gets a lot of attention from groupies who are drawn to him because he's on TV, like the ones they showed asking to take a picture with him.

Snookie booked after dropping in for her drunken Smurfette act, to do some other shitty MTV show.  Work on your repertoire Nicole, bring something more to the table.

MTV still paying them a lot and flying them around on private jets.  They're going to have to create some more tabloid or "gone viral" social media stuff.

[Artsda]

Angelina's crazy, "I didn't throw wine." Then they play back the tape 5 times. 

You know it's real serious when Paulie is involved. lol

Edited September 30, 2022 by Artsda

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

I stopped watching this about halfway through the season. It was boring me, they were boring me. I miss the old days. I have had enough of Angelina to last me a lifetime. 

[aghst]

Only watched the first half of the reunion.

The harsh studio lighting shows their age, despite all the professional hair and makeup.  Snookie looks bloated.  They're all under 40 right?

They really don't talk much about real things.  The show is now about going on weekend or week-long trips, a few confrontations here and there.  I guess they'll get into the big confrontation in the second half of the reunion.

Really the big challenge is how much more they can keep the show going, make it about more than mostly family people going on some fake trips.  So there will probably be some more scandal on social media that's ginned up to hype up a new season.

Probably find a way to get Ronnie back on, if the producers thought it would generate some drama and help draw in more viewers.

[gaPeach]

I haven't watched for a month, so I am playing catch up.  Just watched the Pool Party episode.  Or should I say Pool Party...NOT.  

I am by no means an Angelina fan but I get her frustration.  She is and always will be on the outside looking in with this group.  I believe most of them only deal with her because it is part of their contract.  Apparently so was having to stay in the hotel room for the big fight instead of having the option to go to the pool party.  Which Snookie so wanted to go to.  Ok back on track... So having them all discussing her in a group text she is not privy to has to hurt. 

She originally came back to cause drama.  I don't think she wants to be the villain anymore. I think she may have formed somewhat of a friendship with Snookie and Deanna, making this new round of "Lets gang up on Angelina" hurt because she thought she had some kind of friendship with some if not all the cast members.  This makes it very clear she has not.

It would have been nice if someone at least spoke up for Angelina.  To me, it was totally a big gang up on Angelina with Mike smiling like the DICK he is, while everyone fights with each other.  I have to give it to him, he is a master manipulator.  

Mike started this whole thing, played both sides, got everyone riled up and walked away with a smirk on his face.  And I liked the new Mike and hope he comes back.

[aghst]

I think by now the cast recognize their scripted roles and recognize that without drama, the show probably doesn't get the same ratings compared to if they were all peaceful and one happy family.

So to keep the gravy train going, there will always be friction of some kind.

[Artsda]

Well wow she's back.

 

 

[aghst]

The gender reveal skydive by the Situation was one of the best moments of the cast enjoying each other in a few seasons.

Laurens may genuinely have been pissed off to find out Mike was up there, about to jump out of the plane, but that soon gave way to anticipation and excitement.

Good bonding moment, one of the best in the show, but in the last couple of seasons, a lot of BS about Mike outing Angelina and then the fake moments earlier this season where Vinny and Angelina was supposedly becoming a thing.

 

[Artsda]

Really shows how nobody cares about Angelina that Pauly announces that engagement 6 months ago to that crowd and nobody leaked it. LOL

Edited April 28, 2023 by Artsda

[Blondie]

Angelina gets bent out of shape over the dumbest things.  What did Jenni say that wasn't true?  Plus she was drunk!!!

Angelina just wants to be the center of attention in every scene.  She threatens violence at the drop of a hat.  (And sometimes follows through on them). 

I don't understand why they remain friends with her.

[Artsda]

I don't either, she's toxic and not this fake family like the others. They seem to tolerate her because of contracts.

Will be interesting to see when Sammy comes who they were closer to the dynamic with Angelina. 

 

[aghst]

I think Angelina, like all of them act a certain way to end up in more scenes that make it on the air.

If they're low key, they become invisible gradually and they'd have little reason to keep them on.

Snookie falls into this too, as does maybe Deanna.  Recently Deanna's husband didn't want to go out while she wanted to go out drinking kind of later in the evening, after they had dinner.  Honestly she might have felt pressured to participate rather than go to the hotel room and tend to her kids.

If Sammy is a regular next season and you know they want to bring back Ron if Sammy is going to be there, it becomes kind of crowded so they have to vie for camera time.

What happened to Nikki this season?  Did Pauly break up with her?  Or maybe they weren't interested in paying her despite the big fight she had with Angelina last season.

[Blondie]

Angelina goes from aggressor to victim and back so easily.  Deena was right when she said Angelina gets in her own head.   

It's pathetic that she has to embellish the events to get the fiance all worked up.   How can anyone stand to be around her?

The previews make it look like she's bringing Sammie in as backup for herself and to cause more trouble.  

If the producers are trying to morph this into a housewives type of show I'll have to put it on my don't bother watching list.

It has been interesting watching the majority grow and mature and settle down somewhat.  However with each episode I dislike Angelina more and more.  I get the feeling the rest of the group feel the same.  

[Artsda]

I don't remember Angelina and Sammi being close, bad script having her bring her but I guess they wanted the reaction of the real group. 

Angelina I am ready to go. Keep Sammi, alternate in Ronnie when Sammi not around and Angelina can go. With her fame seaking fiancee. 

The guy shows up for first time, never met the others, Angelina has never spoken about him to the others, she was lap dancing and talking about Vinny 1.0 feelings couple weeks ago, he proposes in front of the cameras and Jenni can't question that? They all should be questioning it. 

 

[aghst]

They try to portray this cast as real life friends who bicker but are like a family.

Theres always the potential for Jerry Springer moments.  It started out tribal in the original show, the supposed guido subculture but otherwise they were strangers and had no reason to get long.

Then they came together, rallied around Snooki being punched and indulging in idiosyncrasies, like GTL, the over tHe top hairdos, etc.

Now edging towards middle age, they trade on the fmily who still bicker, who can still party excessively and project big personalities.  That’s their brand.

Except most of the scenes they end up airing are contrived and false.  The cast are playing parodies of their former selves and hamming it up for the cameras.

that’s not to say there aren’t real moments, like the skydiving gender revel when everyone seemed excited as well as peeved in the case of Laurens who didn’t expect to see her husband jumping out of a plane.

The reaction tO The proposal seemed genuine for tHe most part.  They saw it coming but they couldn’t believe it was happening.  The women seem flabbergasted because Vinny 2.0 probably proposed in a more heartfelt and gallant way than their own significant others did.

I can see in real time Angelina felt Jenny and Zack were slighting her, if not in words than with their facial reactions and body language.

most people would make a mental note of it, might tell someone else their impressions.  But of course this show can just leave it at that, they have to try to make a Big deal out of it.

So they set up a bunch of convos of several couples in the hotel rooms, with people in bed, as if they were having private, real honest conversations — in a way they wouldn’t be as honest around the whole “family” when they’re gathered together.

but obviously there are camera crews, producers and other crew behind the scenes in these hotel rooms.  If they go through the trouble to set all that up, they wouldn’t just turn on tHe cameras and film whatever was in the minds of the cast.

That is the illusion they gave but the producers have to have an agenda.  If they just leave it to the cast members to talk about whatever was on their minds, the resulting convos are unlikely to be “good TV.”

the producers are coaching them and suggesting what to discuss, in this case the smoke Angelina has for Jenny and Mike — the whole Mediation schtick a sure sign of them being performative rather than being real.

they probably do several takes until They get tHe discussions they want and it flows smoothly and seems natural.

meanwhile Angelina is being coached on how to show being offended .  Like I said it is more difficult to manipulate the big scenes, when they were ll at the restaurant, but not impossible.  But the talking heads and the voiceovers of Angelina complain8ng about Jenny not being happy for her were filmed AFTER the big restaurant scene but edited together to blend the, together, to make it appear like she was gettIng upset in real time.

Angelina will play the villain role, since she needs to have a niche on the show.  The boys will laugh and whoop it up when Angelina and Mike are accusing each other, because they know this is the show.

 

On 5/5/2023 at 7:11 PM, Artsda said:

I don't remember Angelina and Sammi being close, bad script having her bring her but I guess they wanted the reaction of the real group. 

Angelina I am ready to go. Keep Sammi, alternate in Ronnie when Sammi not around and Angelina can go. With her fame seaking fiancee. 

The guy shows up for first time, never met the others, Angelina has never spoken about him to the others, she was lap dancing and talking about Vinny 1.0 feelings couple weeks ago, he proposes in front of the cameras and Jenni can't question that? They all should be questioning it. 

 

I guess that’s the condition they demanded from Sammi to join the show, come in and be another villain, all defiant and in your face, even though that wasn’t her persona in the OG show.

are they going to try to have drama between her and Ronnie?  Probably not and she probably said she wouldn’t do it, since she may be married or in a serious relationship with someone else.

so this villain role may be what the producers came up with.

 

[aghst]

My TiVo recorded a 5 minute sneak peak of new season.

Setup is Mike supposedly won a trip to PA, where Angelina shot her ex husband in the face.

She is still at war with the meatballs from last season so she gets the idea to get an ally on the trip, which is supposedly only OGs, no wives for significant others.

Well Sammi is an OG and she is supposedly going to be Angelina’s ally.

They show a poster of the cast with Sammi in the middle.

But they briefly show Ron arriving so it might just be a short appearance for him rather than being on the season all the time.

So Sammi has to go through the gauntlet if she wants that sweet MTV money.😏

[Artsda]

Didn't Sammi know Angelina for 5 mins? So fake of a plot to have her be the one bringing Sammi in. 

Sammi was also closer to Jenni/Nicole and Deena that Angelina could ever dream of being. 

Now that Sammis here Angelina can go. 

[aghst]

10 hours ago, Artsda said:

Didn't Sammi know Angelina for 5 mins? So fake of a plot to have her be the one bringing Sammi in. 

Sammi was also closer to Jenni/Nicole and Deena that Angelina could ever dream of being. 

Now that Sammis here Angelina can go. 

We know why Sammi and Ronnie both want to get back on.

Just a couple of seasons ago, Angelina was living in a small condo with a nondescript car.  On this episode she was driving a Porsche and is living in a McMansion like the rest of them.

In fact, in almost every episode or even every scene, the cast are driving different luxury import cars.  I don't know if Mike has a big car collection or maybe they lease fancy cars for him every season.

Sammi is in her mid 30s, still single but engaged.  She has 4 million IG followers but apparently hasn't monetized them.  That is why she was driving what looked like a white Nissan hatchback.

Ronnie probably is running low on money too, even though he did a few seasons of this Family show.  He arrived in a nondescript SUV with a driver (probably a staffer for production) and stopped at a drive thru to bring some food to Mike.

And BTW, the other cast has no say on whether Sammi or Ron joins this cast.  If MTV thinks that will help the show, they're going to be on.

Deena said she'd never film with Angelina again.  That was how many seasons ago?

In fact it would probably make it easier for them to play their role when they have fake fights.

There will probably be some kind of reconciliation between Angelina and the other females and with Sammi too.  They will all talk about how they're real family again.

It was funny, Deena and even Jenni were saying Angelina got up during the Reunion to hover over Deena as if to threaten her but they showed Angelina was at least 10 feet away from Deena.

The editors don't like Deena, they kept cutting in her making a claim and then footage that undermined her claim.

They showed clips of the old show, Sammi saying she would always remember them when she was 22 at the time.  But then apparently ghosted them -- which means unfriending them on FB or something.

 

I still don't get how this show is giving each cast member significant incomes.  It has good enough ratings to be going, now 5 seasons or maybe more?  But not boffo ratings like the original show.

The original JS was only 3 seasons or so 2009-2012.  

Cast must have a lot of loans out because they can't have bought those homes and cars with cash?

Or they must be able to use their fame from the show to make money from social media somehow?  If they each have millions of followers, they should be able to do all kinds of endorsements.  But Sammi only had some little shop at a coastal town.

They showed Mike a couple of seasons ago endorsing some T-shirt line but that can't be that big.  Maybe the women can endorse cosmetics or perfumes or have a clothing line of some kind or the cheesy jewelry they wear.

[snarts]

On 8/4/2023 at 12:23 PM, aghst said:

The original JS was only 3 seasons or so 2009-2012.  

Six seasons over three years and they weren't paid much until the end.  No residual money for the non-stop airings and no monetary reward for the spinoffs the original show spawned (Acapulco Shore, Geordie Shore, etc.)

None of them got rich from the original show, they made money by being celebs. Some have arguably been smarter about it over the years, Pauly in particular. Snooki has a moderately successful clothing line, I think Sam has something like that as well.  That said, I can't blame anyone for coming back older & wiser, looking for an easy paycheck. 

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

Even Deener started with a condo, upgraded to a nice house, and now has a McMansion herself. I stopped watching this after Snooki left and then when she came back, started back up, but was completely bored, especially with all the Angelina drama. I thought I heard Jenny ghosted her because she opened some shop at the shore after Jenny did, petty nonsense really. 

[Artsda]

Maybe Jenni should have been allowed to ask more questions instead of being attacked. 

 

 

[snarts]

Stupid that they had Sammi respond to a DM from Angelina of all people. I guess since she had everyone else blocked?

Still, it's great to have her back and see the emotional reunion with everyone.

She looks fantastic. I was struck by how fresh she looks compared to the others primarily due to their surgeries/fillers/botox/heavy makeup.

Now that she's back, can they please dump Angelina?

[aghst]

You can tell most of them were expecting Sammi.

They all did the wide open mouth response.

Also looks like Sammi had rehearsed all the "beef" she had with each cast mate and  she went from each one telling them specifically what she was upset about and their responses also seemed rehearsed.

Also, it's not like they all decided to come to the middle of nowhere in Pennsylvania just because Mike won a contest -- do lotto tickets really have such prizes?

Obviously production leased the house.  It was funny too, the women were all looking to claim dibs on the rooms and someone remarked that they didn't have to scrounge for a good room.  They showed the original shore house was 3 bedroom, 2 baths and a smush room while this place had 11 bedrooms!

So there's no reason for anyone to have to share rooms but it would be easier to film them if several "slept" in the same rooms and had convos.

Jenni really seemed thrilled to get the big suite, like the long drive to the middle of nowhere in this gloomy weather and having to play out the fake drama with Angelina was worth it, just to have that cushy suite.  Then they kept showing Mike being a bit pissed that he didn't get the big suite since he was the one who won the supposed prize.

Jenni and Mike's reactions about the suite may have been the only genuine ones in the whole episode, though Deena teared up a bit when Sammi showed up.

Enjoyed Vinny mocking Sammi and Nicole talking about having competing beach boutiques selling cheesy merchandise.

Also the Angelina and Snooki convo about them disliking drama and both crying about it.  Seems like they always try to egg on Angelina to stir up drama and she does it because it's her job but she doesn't like that role, even though the producers seem to think it's drama or antagonism between Angelina and the other women which drive the season narrative.

Like they're starting this one with the confrontation at the reunion, which was about Angelina confronting Jenni for being snarky about her engagement.

So they will squash this latest drama, at least temporarily, as the "family" goes on these trips.  Then towards the end of the season, they could have more conflict, as cliffhangers leading to the reunion and the next season.

 

 

[Artsda]

I don't think Angelina thought her plan if having someone on her side through.  Sammi had strong relationships with the girls, I liked the reactions of them seeing her walk in, they have wanted her back. 

Opposite of Angelina who they never wanted back and stuck with her.  She can go now. 

I don't think Angelina thought her plan if having someone on her side through.  Sammi had strong relationships with the girls, I liked the reactions of them seeing her walk in, they have wanted her back. 

Opposite of Angelina who they never wanted back and stuck with her.  She can go now. 

[aghst]

So that sled race was a dud.  Figures Nicole and Deena would choose the wine bottle with the rounded bottom that kept tipping over while the rest of them opted out.

The UFO prank didn’t work.  Only Deena, Snooki and Sammi believed it was real.

Or pretended it was.

Jenni kept drinking wine with bemused look and Mike kept stuffing chips in his mouth.

The noise from the drones would be a dead giveaway.

Murder mystery was still the best prank.

[Kathy]

Pauly and his megaphone are very annoying.

[Kathy]

So who is at the door?  Ronnie?

I was watching last night and was wondering why am I still watching?  Jwow looks like she is so over all of this and is just there for the paycheck.  She doesn't even try anymore.  Vinnie and his birthday parties, getting old.  Angelina, how does she keep up with who she is mad at and why?

[aghst]

You wouldn't think Sammy would have signed on without knowing that she might have to see Ronnie.

Certainly not to have the producers blindside her, like them telling her that she won't have to see Ronnie and then them springing him on her.

Jenni was never fooled by the drones.  She said the murder mystery was still the better prank because it really upset her.

Vinny and Pauly were smirking too much.

[SilverLake0315]

Angelina needs to go. She brings nothing to this show. “That’s not the greeting *I* got when I came back!” 

You’re right. It wasn’t. TAKE A HINT. 

[Artsda]

Angelina surprised Sam wouldn't take the other girls side? Sam was the one with them for years. 

Angelina is forced on them. Jennie is so over this routine of trying to forgive her and Angelina then flips out again. 

[snarts]

On 9/2/2023 at 9:33 PM, Artsda said:

Angelina is forced on them. Jennie is so over this routine of trying to forgive her and Angelina then flips out again. 

Exactly. From the previews, looks like she flips out again next week. IMHO, Angelina would really benefit from therapy. She's constantly battling everyone in her life and seems miserable. Never going to be happy or easy to be around until she does the work & gets right with herself. 

Color me shocked, I didn't expect that Jwow & Zach would still be together. I thought he was a rebound boy. But, she seems happy and I'm glad to see she took a step back on all the surgeries/fillers/etc. Looking radiant and calm this season.

Does anyone know how much they're earning? Their homes are all so gorgeous, especially Mike's. No wonder Sammy came back. Wonder when we'll meet her boyfriend?

[aghst]

I thought AC was dead but they seem to really like their hotel suites.

Pauly has a residency at an AC casino, Vinny had a stripper show in Vegas.

Do the people who sign these deals think people who watched the OG JS would come to their venues?

Or do they think a lot of people watch this Family Vacation show, which has been on as many, maybe more seasons than the original show, will come because the show is currently airing?

 

There's no point in Jenny and Angelina making up.  There's going to be more blowups as long as they both keep doing the show.

They know what's expected of them.

What was the whole convo about fapping and Deena and Chris arguing about?  And Chris getting backed up.  TMI?

The show doesn't show any signs of ending but they should put some money away.

It doesn't look like it.  Show could go away but they have millions of followers on social media so they must think the money will keep coming in.

Deena and Angelina have both upgraded their houses.  Haven't seen them driving as many expensive cars as Mike or Pauly do.

Vinny might be the only one being smart with his money.

[RealHousewife]

Is the current season streaming anywhere?

[Blondie]

Thank goodness the girls are  finally telling Angelina that she's the problem.   Of course she still can't see it.  She's in such denial she can't see past her own nose.  Get some professional help girl.  

 

[Kathy]

I didn't like the ganging up on Angelina at Snookie's snack board party.  It was awarkward and had a mean girls vibe.  I don't like Angela but this was a little too much.  I am also really starting to not like any of the girls.

Mike is nothing more than a gossip girl.  Pauly seems to stay out of all the drama all the time.

[Blondie]

In Angelina's world she has to be the center of attention  ALL. THE. TIME.  She made it look like they were attacking her when in reality she started it, again.  At the store opening she stirred the pot about them not supporting Lauren when they didn't show up.  Then she did the same thing at the charcuterie party.  I would have  been angry.  I  don't  blame  any of them. 

 As soon as she gets called out for her  poor behavior she pulls out the  victim card.    You don't go to an event like that and talk shite about the friends who aren't there,  you go to celebrate your friend who is throwing the party.  For her it was just another opportunity to be in front of the cameras so she could make it seem like she's a true friend and the others aren't.   She's a  phony.  All the other girls contacted Lauren and  gave sincere reasons why they  wouldn't be able to make it.   That is what a real  friend does.

When Mike said something about  her stabbing a person and being mad that they were bleeding I thought  he's got her pegged.  It's  exactly what she does. 

[aghst]

13 hours ago, Kathy said:

I didn't like the ganging up on Angelina at Snookie's snack board party.  It was awarkward and had a mean girls vibe.  I don't like Angela but this was a little too much.  I am also really starting to not like any of the girls.

Mike is nothing more than a gossip girl.  Pauly seems to stay out of all the drama all the time.

Producers could easily have prompted Angelina to talk about the other women not being at the store opening.  Not just mention it a couple of time but keep harping on it over and over?

Then Mike telling Jenni and then it blowing up.  Even his own wife was chuckling and later Vinny as well at Mike the Agitation.

Jenni was smiling right before things got heated, like she knew a made up argument was coming.

How many times has Deena said she won’t deal with Angelina on the show and then stay on the show, keep shooting scenes with Angelina?

Also, the other women, if they don’t want too much drama, didn’t have to confront her.  IRL people sometimes avoid confrontation, just note that someone threw them under the bus and decide they will just avoid them.

But they’re not going to have some nice civil gathering, uneventful.

It wouldn’t be Jersey Shore if they didn’t talk at or down to each other.  Producers have to always spice things up.  The women keep complaining that they don’t like the drama.  
 

But they know what show they’re on.  They know what they have to do to get the big McMansions, the expensive cars, the nice clothes, the fancy charcuterie boards, etc.

 

[Blondie]

Again,   I don't see bullying,  I see castmates fed up with  her bullshite.  A normal person can only take so much, even if it's for entertainment. 

[snarts]

9 hours ago, Blondie said:

 I don't see bullying

Me either. I don't care whether it's Angelina or producer driven, she continually shits all over the other women and then complains that she doesn't have a better relationship with them. Rinse & repeat.

Angelina is a pick me girl, viewing other women as competition. She fights for camera time and male attention. She's exhausting to watch, so I can't even imagine how annoying she it to be around. The only good thing I can appreciate about her is her love of animals.

Great to see how quickly & easily Sam is fitting back in with the group. I guess  we should be happy that Angelina was still busy being so dramatic so they didn't try to force some conflict with Sam.

[RealHousewife]

Is this streaming anywhere?

[aghst]

Maybe the reactions are genuine but they choose to feature these scenes and they edit it a certain way.

Like the end of the episode, Angelina is flying in and they have a certain music, like trouble is coming.

They made most of the previous episode and this one about the beef.

 In real life, when we hear that someone we knew was talking about us behind our back, the impulse is not to automatically confront them.  A lot of people avoid confrontation, because the agitation is not worth it.

Instead they form opinions about the people who may have talked behind their back and decide to avoid them or minimize interacting with them.

But on a loud reality show, you can't have people turn the other cheek or just not confront the situation.  You always have to have loud arguments.

If any of the other women were inclined not to deal with it, just pretend to ignore it, the producers will prod them to air out their feelings for the cameras.

Mike also knows these kinds of arguments are gold for the show.  He likes his big house and his cars so to keep the show going, he's happy to play his part in egging others on.  He couldn't keep a straight face and neither could Laurens.

If they were real friends, she might be more insistent about Mike not getting involved in potential fights.  But instead she half rolls her eyes and shrugs, "that's my husband, what are you going to do?"

The cast members always refer to each other being "messy."  Well looks like the producers want to be "messy" too, injecting Ronnie in this thing, judging by the previews.

Or having some big dramatic moment with the reveal of Angelina's father.  So Angelina and Mike will squash any beef since he "found" the genealogist -- more likely the producers found her, saw that she'd be confident on camera so probably cast her.