The People's Court - General Discussion

[callie lee 29]

For the second case today, is a hell of a thing when the guy who spent 6 years in prison for robbery is way more believable than the "I'm renting two apartments while collecting unemployment" defendant.

[CrazyInAlabama]

My question is how someone who is on unemployment able to qualify for an apartment?  The rents sounded very low too.   

Edited June 9, 2023 by CrazyInAlabama

[Mrs Shibbles]

How many vehicles is today’s first case’s  mother going to purchase for her grown ass son, for him to total them all within year?  I’m glad MM didn’t rule in her favor. 

[AngelaHunter]

The first case got horned in on by some once-in-lifetime, unprecedented bulletin about something or other which could not wait.

Just as well. I did get a few chuckles over Momma (I'm assuming SSM with one precious chick) who just loves buying cars for her irresponsible, wiseass son. He totaled every one of them, including Momma's car. The last car she bought him was a 2022 Acura(!) which he desperately needed to get to work. The monthly payments were $847, which the smartass son agrees cost him most of his monthly pay, but hey - that's all he was required to pay for! I'm assuming Momma carried the insurance since the premiums for a 20-year-old with a habit of totaling cars would probably be 15K per year. No idea what happened in this case since it ended there for me.

Then I got the tail end of the next case, with two bizarre-looking litigants fighting over $1300, payment for some junk purchased on OfferUp and for which the def. did not pay since she had no idea that what she signed was a promissory note. Apparently she signs things without reading them. Not her fault.

P wanted money for the terrible emotional stress over this tragic incident plus for extra medication needed for her world being shattered. She has no idea how much she's owed - she's nervous - so JM, with great impatience, tells her to go outside and figure it out.

In the hall, P informs Doug that Def. "Came into my home and committed a punishable act of crime against me."

"A punishable act of crime," Doug repeats. "That's very serious", he adds while trying to choke back his laughter.

1 minute ago, Mrs Shibbles said:

 I’m glad MM didn’t rule in her favor. 

Oh, thanks for the verdict. Glad to hear Mommy got nothing.

[Guest]

Mommy sure likes to expose her beefy midriff and black lace brassiere.  

Three buttons on her shirt. Really?  Is that how you come dressed to court?

Another certain cranky judge would have asked her bailiff if he had an old sweater to cover the beefy midriff. 

After witnessing the Mom…Sonny Boy”s demeanor makes a lot of sense. 

If that’s what she wears to court I can only imagine what she’d wear to a funeral. 

[AngelaHunter]

49 minutes ago, PsychoKlown said:

Mommy sure likes to expose her beefy midriff and black lace brassiere.

That blouse looked about 3 sizes too small and I have no idea how that top button held. She also looked not even 15 years older than her darling boy, Crash Craddock.

Maybe I'm just jealous of 'Kevaughn'. I bought my own car at 21, for 1500$. My momma never offered to get me an Acura even when, like Kevaughn, I had important meetings to attend. Okay, Acura didn't exist then, but you know what I mean.

[Guest]

12 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

That blouse looked about 3 sizes too small and I have no idea how that top button held. 

After seeing the blouse mash her breasts I was thrown back years ago to Freshman English Short stories with Prof Robertson. 

I remember a short story by John Updike (originally thought it was Flannery O’Conner) about a teenaged cashier at the A&P who witnessed three teenagers come into the store in bathing suits.  Updike described one of the girls as chubby wearing a bathing top that was much too small and that her breasts looked like smashed loaves of dough trying to escape capture.  Teenage boy defended the girls to the manager and promptly got fired. He mistakenly thought the beauty of the three girls (not mashed loaves) would thank him.  Nope. The three sauntered out without a glance backwards even after knowing the kid got sacked. 

Wordy. I know. But it just fascinated me that one contestant on a court show could propel me back 30 years to a classroom. 

Anyway…mom’s wardrobe choices need some serious scrutiny.  And Sonny Boy needs to grow up. 

[DoctorK]

3 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:

And Sonny Boy needs to grow up. 

I think it is too late for that, he has a set lifestyle of ineptness and immaturity.

[AngelaHunter]

32 minutes ago, DoctorK said:

I think it is too late for that, he has a set lifestyle of ineptness and immaturity.

Why not? He has a mommy who reacts to him totaling cars as though he's a toddler who dropped his ice cream cone: "There, there, sweetie pie! I'll buy you another one." Smashing cars is a joke to him. The only way he'll learn to take care of his toys is if HE gets smashed up in the next crash.

3 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:

But it just fascinated me that one contestant on a court show could propel me back 30 years to a classroom. 

I hear you. Who thought a court show could stir up misty, water-coloured memories? It's taken me all the way back to high school and dredged up a complete, 200-year-old poem my mother recited a half-century ago.

Now you've made ME recall Updike books I read so long ago. "Rabbit, Run"! 😄

[Guest]

54 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

 

I hear you. Who thought a court show could stir up misty, water-coloured memories? It's taken me all the way back to high school and dredged up a complete, 200-year-old poem my mother recited a half-century ago.

Now you've made ME recall Updike books I read so long ago. "Rabbit, Run"! 😄

I remember you posting the poem.  Doggone. Maybe these court shows do have some usefulness. 

[AngelaHunter]

On 6/10/2023 at 12:40 PM, PsychoKlown said:

I remember you posting the poem.  Doggone. Maybe these court shows do have some usefulness. 

They do!

Get it in writing

Get a receipt

Get that 17-year-old Ford Escort checked out before you buy it unless you're a SSM. Then you can go on Hot Bench and get all your money back when the thing dies.

Never co-sign for anyone (That was too late for young and foolish me and I learned that the hard way)

Don't put anyone on your phone plan

Always specify "as is" when you peddle your junk on CL

The cheap always comes out expensive

Never bareback the loser who just spent 10 years in the penitentiary and who you picked up 3 days ago at Walmart. True love and/or Child support will not be forthcoming. STDs may.

[Guest]

56 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

They do!

Get it in writing

Get a receipt

Get that 17-year-old Ford Escort checked out before you buy it unless you're a SSM. Then you can go on Hot Bench and get all your money back when the thing dies.

Never co-sign for anyone (That was too late for young and foolish me and I learned that the hard way)

Don't put anyone on your phone plan

Always specify "as is" when you peddle your junk on CL

The cheap always comes out expensive

Never bareback the loser who just spent 10 years in the penitentiary and who you picked up 3 days ago at Walmart. True love and/or Child support will not be forthcoming. STDs may.

Don’t ever sit nekkid on the family room couch while renting a vacation home. 

Always keep a roll of toilet paper and one crayon with you at all times. 

If you’re shady don’t text anyone but feel free to join Plenty O’Fish under a few different accounts 

Remember to always celebrate life’s big moments…baby’s first birthday, your child’s 6th grade graduation, another pregnancy, finding out who the baby daddy is…by renting a hall suitable for 400 close friends and family, finding a caterer who charges $4.65 per person (including sushi and lobster) but most importantly find a designer to make you a custom dress for $200 that showcases your fabulous life. 

Realizing you can never have too many hair weaves, sparkly talons or eye lashes so thick you’ll need a hatchet to get them off (and see your eyes) 

That’s all I got.  That and a 1:30 appointment. 

[AngelaHunter]

@PsychoKlown I wasn't going to get into specifics of the shadier aspects of TPC lessons, but you've covered most of them quite nicely.

May I add: Do not buy anteek mirrs on Fingerhut. That 29.99% interest is killing, "I'm tellin' you!"

Today's contestants? Well, I must say I'm most impressed (again) with Facebook Meat Market - I mean "Dating app". It's a place where someone like our Def, who looks like the lovechild of Jeremiah Bullfrog and Shrek, and sounds like she has a 5-pack a-day habit can not only dredge up a love match but get him to pay her car insurance before they even meet.

She's (all together now) a home health aide. Well, of course, she is. Okay, so maybe Plaintiff isn't anyone's idea of a Dream Lover, but still.

He wants to pay for them to go to some baseball game(?) and is happy to loan her the money for her insurance after she informs him she can't pay it, but darn - HE, who says he's a commercial driver has no insurance or registration. I guess this was all a surprise to him. He realizes he can't pay for all that AND their day out after all so he just ignores her "WTF where are you??" texts. She's pissed since she booked off work for a couple of days for their big outing and decides the 165$ he gave her for ins. is now a gift - the gift of insurance from a virtual stranger. She's a whoppin' big liar since her texts to him promise repayment. He gets his money. Now get out, both of you.

Next case: Construction boy takes on the job of creating a bathroom for P for 18,000$.

The bathroom is really for P's daughter and son-in-law. She explains she's the "general contractor" for this since the daughter and fiance are only 26 and 28 or so, and don't know how to do anything on their own. JM sympathizes with that, of course.

Dragon Mommy/Mother-in-law (who came here directly from her hair and makeup appointment) doesn't seem to know much more, so hires the Def from the NextDoor site and never thinks about a contract that would outline payments to be made, materials to be purchased, work to be done, start/finish date, or anything else. The only condition we know of is that it's supposed to be done by the day of the wedding, which of course it was not. In fact, it seems only the demo was done.

Contractor Boy says he didn't think they needed anything in writing because "I thought if I took care of them they would take care of me."  Aww. How cute. We know how these agreements that run on faith and are made between strangers always work out so well. He unilaterally changes the conditions of the job, gets 1k for materials he never bought, then storms off in a sulk because the Dragon hurt his feelies or something. He tells JM that most of his jobs are for around 18K. "Get outta here!" is her reply.

The Dragon, who keeps butting in while JM is questioning the defendant and got spanked for it, is paying for everything, I bet, probably including the down payment on the new house. For sure she'll be running the lives of the daughter and her new hubby-boo, probably forever.

Blah blah blah. Mommy gets her 1K back.

 

[Guest]

44 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

@PsychoKlown I wasn't going to get into specifics of the shadier aspects of TPC lessons, but you've covered most of them quite nicely.

May I add: Do not buy anteek mirrs on Fingerhut. That 29.99% interest is killing, "I'm tellin' you!"

That reminds me.  Steak Sandwiches  Don’t ever accept a gourmet meal of Steak sandwich because Mr. MoneyBags will want you to foot the bill to repair his 1997 BMW hoopty with a bad transmission, bald tires and a missing front passenger door.  

 

44 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

Today's contestant?

❤️

44 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

Next case: Construction boy takes on the job of creating a bathroom for P for 18,000$.

He seemed way off.  Way, way off 

44 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

The bathroom is really for P's daughter and son-in-law. She explains she's the "general contractor" for this since the daughter and fiance are only 26 and 28 or so, and don't know how to do anything on their own. JM sympathizes with that, of course.

Dragon Mommy/Mother-in-law (who came here directly from her hair and makeup appointment) doesn't seem to know much more, so hires the Def from the NextDoor site and never thinks about a contract that would outline payments to be made, materials to be purchased, work to be done, start/finish date, or anything else. The only condition we know of is that it's supposed to be done by the day of the wedding, which of course it was not. In fact, it seems only the demo was done.

What was with the hair.  What did she say to her hairdresser?  “Hazel, give me the upside down loving cup look”. 

And we’re in fresh hell did she think this show was taped?  Antarctica?  She had not just a turtleneck sweater but a combo turtleneck-cowl with a heavy blazer!!!

I finished my iced tea much sooner than usual and I think it was because I was getting hot flashes looking at this moron who looked like she was dressed for Christmas Tree shopping. 
 

44 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

Contractor Boy says he didn't think they needed anything in writing because "I thought if I took care of them they would take care of me."  Aww. How cute. We know how these agreements that run on faith and are made between strangers always work out so well. He unilaterally changes the conditions of the job, gets 1k for materials he never bought, then storms off in a sulk because the Dragon hurt his feelies or something. He tells JM that most of his jobs are for around 18K. "Get outta here!" is her reply.

The Dragon, who keeps butting in while JM is questioning the defendant and got spanked for it, is paying for everything, I bet, probably including the down payment on the new house. For sure she'll be running the lives of the daughter and her new hubby-boo, probably forever.

Blah blah blah. Mommy gets her 1K back.

 

And I had to get a refill of iced tea.  Extra ice. 

[AngelaHunter]

6 minutes ago, PsychoKlown said:

 Don’t ever accept a gourmet meal of Steak sandwich because Mr. MoneyBags will want you to foot the bill to repair his 1997 BMW hoopty with a bad transmission, bald tires and a missing front passenger door.  

Duly noted. I just thought of another one: Don't pay the utility bills for some bottom feeder you dredged up on CL last Saturday, but if you do, don't try to excuse your terminal desperation for anything with a pulse away by saying, "I have a big heart! That's just the kind of person I am so I could not bear the thought of my Romeo's children freezing in the dark. I did it for The Children."

This will not get you praise for your altruism but a derisive, 'You're a fool".

 

[Guest]

38 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

Duly noted. I just thought of another one: Don't pay the utility bills for some bottom feeder you dredged up on CL last Saturday, but if you do, don't try to excuse your terminal desperation for anything with a pulse away by saying, "I have a big heart! That's just the kind of person I am so I could not bear the thought of my Romeo's children freezing in the dark. I did it for The Children."

This will not get you praise for your altruism but a derisive, 'You're a fool".

 

To piggyback your post don’t invite the homeless man sleeping on your apartment front steps inside because he needs a shower and warmth.  

If memory serves this wonderful human being had children in the apartment and still invited him in. I think he stole money  and her heart 

Color me shocked. 

[seacliffsal]

One of the cases today was about an Uber driver and customer; the driver decided he didn't want to take the customer to the customer's destination as it was too far, so the customer dented the driver's car.  Throughout, JM really did not like the driver and mocked him a couple of times.  Then, she tried to 'mother' the defendant and explain to him how to best fill out his application for medical school in order to lessen the impact of his being arrested.  She really does not hide her personal biases even though she found against the defendant, he was obviously a favorite (I believe his applying to medical school really reminded her of her daughters applying to law school...).

[AngelaHunter]

34 minutes ago, seacliffsal said:

  Then, she tried to 'mother' the defendant and explain to him how to best fill out his application for medical school in order to lessen the impact of his being arrested.  She really does not hide her personal biases even though she found against the defendant, he was obviously a favorite (I believe his applying to medical school really reminded her of her daughters applying to law school...).

I didn't see this since it got butted into for me, but that sounds like par for the course. Medical school, for someone with so little control he vandalizes property if frustrated in any way?

JM has been practicing law and been a judge for so many years, yet doesn't seem to want to recognize that even people the age of her darling daughters can be vile, amoral, entitled, and violent. I bet none of her daughters ended up in Riker's Island for smashing a bottle over someone's head.

I know JM ultimately follows the law, but it's distasteful watching how often she fawns over youthful cretins, who actually deserve a severe spanking.

[Guest]

I suspect in the first case the plaintiff was sufficiently confused to muck up the whole case.  From his own picture I believe he was at fault  Nice contestant but I think he more than likely swerved and hit her.  I felt bad that his daughter (or someone else) wasn’t there for moral support  

And the second case… my husband and I were on a vacation last year.   One of the members of our tour group was a medical doctor.  Nice enough guy but he didn’t have that look of intelligence I see in some of the doctors I talk to for work.  Anyway, talking to him you’d think he invented penicillin.  But, the last leg of our journey took us to the Jordan airport.  We were all going at different times because we all lived in different places.  He was so rattled at the thought of going to the airport it was visibly obvious  He told us that on one trip from NC to LA he was so nervous in the airport he collapsed and needed oxygen.  How could this idiot be in stressful situations in a hospital if he collapses because a ticket line at the airport is too long?

Anyway, the moron who was the defendant brought this doctor to mind.  He needed counseling for a situation that was all his own doing?  And he wants to be a doctor.

I’m quoting from a 91 year old acquaintance on his observations of the world and the people in it  “I’m glad I’m on my way out than just getting started”  

I’ve got a bit before I’m 91 but I am agreeing with the sentiment more and more each day.

Really sad 

[AngelaHunter]

An hour for today's case? A whole hour of convoluted BS concerning another lovely family reunion that ends in nastiness, cursing and swearing, and a court case. Plaintiff was rocking one really ragged wig.

I had no idea what the hell they were bitching about and kept FFing, hoping to get to the next case. Alas, this was it.

 

[AngelaHunter]

21 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:

 He told us that on one trip from NC to LA he was so nervous in the airport he collapsed and needed oxygen.  How could this idiot be in stressful situations in a hospital if he collapses because a ticket line at the airport is too long?

He collapsed because of the ticket line? I admit I get a bit antsy while waiting in long lines, but have not yet passed out. I was thinking maybe it was because the thought of his patients dying is not nearly as stressful as the thought of HIM dying in a plane.

As has been noted previously, particularly pertaining to certain professionals seen on this show - Someone has to graduate at the very bottom of the class.

 

[Guest]

I’m dying if I’m lying.  

I was a debater in high school and college.  One of the “habits” of a debater is keeping flow charts.  I swear to you I took a sheet from a legal pad…folded it longways twice and attempted to keep track of this hot mess of a family.   I couldn’t.  CEDA would be proud of my attempt but alas, no trophy. 

All I got.  Plaintiff who was either filmed through a bad lens or who really looked like a guppy wanted cash from a family (of about 327 members) whose trip to Disney turned out to be  Not The Most Happiest Place on Earth.  Sisters who were a’bitchin because they didn’t get a private bathroom, elderly relatives on the first floor, grandchildren complaining they couldn’t sleep with Nana, something about a wonky rental van tire and a mystery dude smoking weed in the “game room”. 

My head hurt after watching this crap show. So much fighting. So much nonsense. Who in fresh hell would rent a place while on vacation with 300+ relatives without some form of a contract?  Who does this?

And the yelling!! Doesn’t anyone discuss differences anymore?  Why must everyone yell. Being loud does not make you right. 

I gave up. I could not take the jammy glossed fish lips, the bad weaves or the yelling. I like a good family drama with the best of them but this was much too much. 

If anyone can succinctly give a recap I would be forever grateful. I’m at a complete loss. 

I enjoy the camaraderie on this board but at some point I have to question my sanity watching court contestants tear each other apart like hyenas over a carcass. 

I need wine.  The 12 ounce pour 
 

[AngelaHunter]

2 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:

 I swear to you I took a sheet from a legal pad…folded it longways twice and attempted to keep track of this hot mess of a family.   I couldn’t.  CEDA would be proud of my attempt but alas, no trophy. 

A genealogist would go insane trying to figure out the sons, daughters, sisters, cousins, grandmas, aunties (I guess no husbands were present?). I didn't even think of trying. By the time we got to the daughters(?) coming in "nasty" I was hitting FF.

 

2 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:

And the yelling!! Doesn’t anyone discuss differences anymore?  Why must everyone yell. Being loud does not make you right.

Surely you jest. Being loud, cursing, and yelling over each other is the modus operandi of litigants, which is why none of them can solve their fuckups without court.

JM finally had enough and ordered the big-mouthed Def to "Stop screaming at me!"

 

2 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:

I enjoy the camaraderie on this board but at some point I have to question my sanity watching court contestants tear each other apart like hyenas over a carcass. 

I hear you, but don't leave us yet! Your posts are often the only thing that keeps me watching this. Just think: This is the way they live their lives, and you don't!

2 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:

I need wine.  The 12 ounce pour

Crack open a bottle of Freakshow (Not the Levin vintage) and chllax.

I'm sitting here in the dark in another power failure. Pass me the bottle, please!

 

 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

A genealogist would go insane trying to figure out the sons, daughters, sisters, cousins, grandmas, aunties (I guess no husbands were present?). I didn't even think of trying. By the time we got to the daughters(?) coming in "nasty" I was hitting FF.

And a godson  Someone’s son brought their godson  I have that circled on my flowchart with an arrow that goes nowhere  In debate the arrow would eventually connect to another segment of the subject (godson).  On my chart…it did not.  

6 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

Surely you jest. Being loud, cursing, and yelling over each other is the modus operandi of litigants, which is why none of them can solve their fuckups without court.

JM finally had enough and ordered the big-mouthed Def to "Stop screaming at me!"

A bit surprised she didn’t snap sooner. Also surprised she did lash out at one of the defendants for calling her Miss Milian.  Am I wrong but didn’t she almost rip the head off of some moronic clown who kept calling her Miss in another case?

Then again, why bother?  Pick you battles…pick your wars.

6 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

I hear you, but don't leave us yet! Your posts are often the only thing that keeps me watching this.

💕

6 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

Just think: This is the way they live their lives, and you don't!

T’is true. My boring humdrum life is miles higher than the contestants.  Who wants all that drama?  

6 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

Crack open a bottle of Freakshow (Not the Levin vintage) and chllax.

Sounds good!

6 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

I'm sitting here in the dark in another power failure. Pass me the bottle, please!

 

Power failures are the worst.  How many times have you flipped the light switch?  We get them quite often in Massachusetts.  Hang in there. 

[seacliffsal]

Maybe because the show will not be returning they decided to show us what messes these cases are and that it is editing magic that can produce any semblance of a coherent case.  How do the editors even try to follow what is going on?  Other than for the paycheck why does JM keep coming back in order to try to instill order in these crazy cases?  And the sisters hadn't even seen each other for 15 years but were going to go on a "once in a lifetime"  vacation to Disney World and be in close contact the entire time?  This case kind of proves that we are watching the destruction of the family unit along with society...

[aemom]

On 5/9/2023 at 5:54 PM, AngelaHunter said:

I got different cases than Seacliffsal did.

The first was the piano woman who hired def. to transport her piano to its new owner and he was 1 1/2 hrs late and his workers were devoid of anything needed to actually get the piano into the truck and damaged her door while wrestling with the thing. This case was butted into for me by urgent, breaking news that simply could not wait I did catch the end and P was awarded $1475 to fix the damage. Doug lightly spanks def and yells after him as he's leaving some advice about better planning! Plaintiff looked and sounded like a perfect central-casting pick for "Piano teacher", although I don't know if she did that. She was quite delightful.

Then we had an uber-pontificating windbag condo owner. JM allowed him his 15+ minutes, and seemed to find him charming while he spouted an endless, rehearsed, unfunny comedy monologue, referring to the governing board as "incestuous" "idiots", and other derogatory terms all punctuated with a zillion drawn-out "Umms" and "Ahhs". Anyway, it seems his unit got flooded due to a blockage in the pipes. P orders his upstairs neighbour, who I believe he referred to as "Tickle Me" to stop using water, but alas, the idiot or moron actually used his water gain. 

P wants all kinds of money, including for the cleanup of his kitchen which is denied since the mess wouldn't have been so bad had he called a plumber right then.

I really couldn't take the P any longer, so don't know how much money, if any, he got.

I listened to JM and JJ discuss what they would have been had they not gone into law.

Judge John says he would have been an English professor and I can see him in that field but -Yes! JM says she originally wanted to be a therapist but someone tactfully informed her that she may be a better talker than a listener.

I'm picturing JM as a psychologist:

JM: "So, did I tell you about what happened at my wedding when my husband wanted to leave because his "stupid" Mustang took off on its own? Yes? Oh, well then you need to know about our three wonderful, beautiful, talented, SJW, perfect daughters! Did you know they missed their graduation ceremonies because of that stupid COVID? Try and imagine how devastated we all were. I told them we could hold the parties later, but you know it's just not the same! And..."

36 minutes later: "I dearly love those perfect beautiful daughters but I get annoyed when they steal my clothes and jewelry and I have to yell at them. My husband has no say about anything in our home, so he just slinks off to the garage to play with his cars and I'm left to hand out the discipline. One time..."

45 minutes later: "I don't really know what my incomparable daughters might do but both my husband and I hope for them to be professionals, hopefully in law so they can follow in their mother's footsteps. Did I mention that one of them drew on the walls when she was a small but perfect child? I did? But did I tell you that those circles she drew were absolutely perfect! "

50 minutes later: "My oldest lovely daughter is a grown woman but I'm sure you'll understand that I treat her, and all of them, like little babies who need my constant supervision and protection. If it were up to me, they'd all be living at home with me and..oh, yeah, their father - until they're at least 35, and... on another topic, my whole family are contractors and try and imagine how much it annoys me when anyone thinks I don't know about construction!"

53 minutes later: "Well, enough about me. Let's talk about you and make it fast. Time is nearly up!"

Okay. I'm just goofing around. I really adore JM!

So.."what happened was" I was trying to figure out who the condo def. reminded me of - some rock star, or minor celeb? I did admire his perfectly placed and streaked locks. Help me out, people.

 

 

 

Very late to the party as usual, but I thought the same thing, and my vote was Kato Kaelin from the OJ Simpson trial:

[AngelaHunter]

4 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

Maybe because the show will not be returning they decided to show us what messes these cases are and that it is editing magic that can produce any semblance of a coherent case.

Could be! Or maybe they're just saying, "Aww, screw it!"  Who knows? But after seeing this endless debacle I truly appreciate all the skillful editing they've done.

 

14 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:

My boring humdrum life is miles higher than the contestants.  Who wants all that drama?

My life is so boring, humdrum, and vanilla my biggest "delimma" every day is what to make for dinner and if I should have another glass of wine. *knocks on wood*

 

4 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

Other than for the paycheck why does JM keep coming back in order to try to instill order in these crazy cases?

In this case, of the zillion family members, she lost it. She didn't even bother correcting the screeched, "MS.MILIAN!!"x 2, or the "It was mineS" which usually gets on her last nerve. She ended up in what I assumed was a pool of utter despair and with an Excedrin headache.

[CrazyInAlabama]

My theory is that the cases were all at least an hour long, and they were chopped way down to make them more interesting.   However, when the staff found out that they were all fired, they just cut the longer cases to the 45 minutes or so that is actually show minus commercials, Doug's segments, and the judges talking.   That way the staff didn't have to fine more cases, or do much of anything to them, and just aired these bizarre, too long cases.   

The gigantic road trip to Disney was certainly bizarre.   It had so many people who went on the trip, stayed at the same B & B /house rental, rented vans, allegations that others were added to the trip without notice to the two organizers, claims that one added person roomed in the kids' game room, and smoked pot, and some people never paid, according to each litigant.   

My nightmare would be pulling into the only restaurant for miles, right after the litigants and their van trip from hell participants pulled in, and having to wait forever for them to decide what they wanted.   

Edited June 16, 2023 by CrazyInAlabama

[Mrs Shibbles]

On 6/13/2023 at 8:55 PM, PsychoKlown said:

I suspect in the first case the plaintiff was sufficiently confused to muck up the whole case.  From his own picture I believe he was at fault  Nice contestant but I think he more than likely swerved and hit her.  I felt bad that his daughter (or someone else) wasn’t there for moral support  

 

That was a good classic case, and I agree.  The accident was his fault.

 

That once in a lifetime Disney trip with estranged family sounded like a nightmare.  You couldn’t pay me a million dollars to get me to do a trip like that.  Nope.

[AngelaHunter]

The first case about house painting reminded me of a previous case where the woman accused the drape cleaner of elder abuse. P, who hired Def to paint the interior of her home agreed to the price of 2200$, with a 1K deposit. This included painting kitchen cabinets which is far different than painting walls, or it should be or else it will look like a cheap amateur job.

Def admits she forgot to tell P that the cabinet paint would be extra - 55$ - and agrees with JM who told her she should have just eaten that.

Then P breaks her ribs and postpones the job. In the meantime, of course, her son and others tell her she's being ripped off, so after Def has scheduled at least two dates with her to start, P says she just wants her money back.

The painter says she had already bought the paint and had it tinted so can't return it. JM asks her if she has the receipts and if so, JM will order that the money be returned. "Unfortunately" Def doesn't have them.

P gets nothing after JM explains to her she can't cancel a contract that way just because her son told her it was too expensive.

I bailed on the next case. The restaurant owner hosts a big rap festival lasting 4 days for the def. Def pays nothing, saying that P understood very well that if the profits weren't enough, he would get zero. P's "pop" who "gets people out of jail" told Son to do this without getting a cent upfront.  Pop knows Def and it was a big trust thing all around. Why not? That always goes so smoothly.

Def, whose name is Steven Butler, calls himself "OG Buccett Loc" and/or "OG Flobama" and is a famous rapper with gold and platinum albums. For someone so famous, he's kind of cheap, paying P nothing and even selling booze in the plaintiff's place and depriving P of even those profits. And... that's all I got.

ETA: I forgot! It was John's B-day and Doug&Douglas brought him a cake and sang Happy Birthday!

Edited June 15, 2023 by AngelaHunter

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

The first case about house painting reminded me of a previous case where the woman accused the drape cleaner of elder abuse. P, who hired Def to paint the interior of her home agreed to the price of 2200$, with a 1K deposit. This included painting kitchen cabinets which is far different than painting walls, or it should be or else it will look like a cheap amateur job.

Excellent connection.  It was very similar to that disgusting piece of work claiming elder abuse.  This plaintiff probably determined that the cost was too high (like drapery lady) and wanted to bow out.  Personally I think the price was reasonable.  I painted kitchen cabinets once in our first home.  It was brutal.  You’re exactly right…it isn’t anywhere near painting a wall  

11 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

Def admits she forgot to tell P that the cabinet paint would be extra - 55$ - and agrees with JM who told her she should have just eaten that.

Forgets.  Yet she didn’t “forget” to trowel on purple eyeshadow and draw in weird eyebrows.  Come to think of it maybe it wasn’t the price but the fear she’d trowel on the cabinet paint too. 

11 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

Then P breaks her ribs and postpones the job. In the meantime, of course, her son and others tell her she's being ripped off, so after Def has scheduled at least two dates with her to start, P says she just wants her money back.

I wanted to hear more about the horn honking, boyfriend, big ol’ truck and “her kid in the backseat”. 

“They said no witnesses”. ????  I think plaintiff was also confused. Hope she wasn’t driving. 
 

11 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

The painter says she had already bought the paint and had it tinted so can't return it. JM asks her if she has the receipts and if so, JM will order that the money be returned. "Unfortunately" Def doesn't have them.

Liar, liar purple eyeshadow on fire. 

11 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

P gets nothing after JM explains to her she can't cancel a contract that way just because her son told her it was too expensive.

I suppose. Not sure but then again I’m not a judge. 

11 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

I bailed on the next case. The restaurant owner hosts a big rap festival lasting 4 days for the def. Def pays nothing, saying that P understood very well that if the profits weren't enough, he would get zero. P's "pop" who "gets people out of jail" told Son to do this without getting a cent upfront.  Pop knows Def and it was a big trust thing all around. Why not? That always goes so smoothly.

Def, whose name is Steven Butler, calls himself "OG Buccett Loc" and/or "OG Flobama" and is a famous rapper with gold and platinum albums. For someone so famous, he's kind of cheap, paying P nothing and even selling booze in the plaintiff's place and depriving P of even those profits. And... that's all I got.

Thanks. I had to bail a few minutes in because I needed to make a phone call but it doesn’t seem that I missed much.  Their volume and diction needed some work and there are some days the effort  just isn’t worth it. 

11 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

ETA: I forgot! It was John's B-day and Doug&Douglas brought him a cake and sang Happy Birthday!

Oh this.  Let me say I love my court guys…Douglas and Doug and with that said I mean no disrespect but Holy Cats their rendition of Happy Birthday sounded more like a funeral dirge than a celebratory song.  But, as my mom would say, “it’s the thought that counts”. And with that I wish Judge John a very Happy Birthday.  Poor guy has to trudge through life with Dragon Ladies in his life he deserves a day every now and then of peace. 

[AngelaHunter]

39 minutes ago, PsychoKlown said:

And with that I wish Judge John a very Happy Birthday.

JM was talking when they came in with the cake and I half expected her to say, "I'm in the middle of a sentence here. You can't just start singing!"  

I also enjoyed the way she held the cake awkwardly after the mournful song was done, as though thinking, "What the hell do you expect me to do with THIS?"

And where was The Levin? Jealous of not getting all the attention? I would Venmo or even CashApp quite a substantial sum to have seen him walk in the door yelling, "It's the case of LET THEM EAT CAKE!" and have that cake smashed right in his face.

39 minutes ago, PsychoKlown said:

But, as my mom would say, “it’s the thought that counts”.

This is true, but some take it to extremes. If I may digress, that reminds me of one Christmas when my brother-in-law didn't get any gift for my stepfather. He said, "I was going to get Kevin some socks, but... I didn't."  The thought was there!😄

[Guest]

36 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

This is true, but some take it to extremes. If I may digress, that reminds me of one Christmas when my brother-in-law didn't get any gift for my stepfather. He said, "I was going to get Kevin some socks, but... I didn't."  The thought was there!😄

THIS is awesome. I’m going to use this in so many ways… “yes, I was going to work overtime to clear the files …but didn’t”. 

“Yes, I was going to meet you for lunch…but didn’t”

Give your brother-in-law an air kiss from me.  This is the single most genius thought that I’ve heard in a lifetime  

I can use this so many ways.  “Yes, we were going to Disneyland, with 267 of my relatives and my plan was to pay for everyone’s trip…but I decided not to!

Gold  Just golden!!!

[AngelaHunter]

1 hour ago, PsychoKlown said:

Give your brother-in-law an air kiss from me.  This is the single most genius thought that I’ve heard in a lifetime

See, there's something else I hadn't thought of in 25 years. This forum and show summon up dribs, drabs, and tidbits of the foggiest memories.

 

 

[Guest]

6 hours ago, Mrs Shibbles said:

That once in a lifetime Disney trip with estranged family sounded like a nightmare.  You couldn’t pay me a million dollars to get me to do a trip like that.  Nope.

I agree completely.  What a nightmare. 

[AngelaHunter]

14 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:

I agree completely.  What a nightmare. 

Picture it - the Convoy from Hell.

[Guest]

9 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

Picture it - the Convoy from Hell.

There would be times when we’d drive from Massachusetts to Delaware to visit relatives.  We’d go through New York and New Jersey to get there.  We’d stop at the NJ Turnpike rest areas. 

So many unanswered questions floating through my mind about the characters at the rest stops have pretty much all been answered thinking about the Case of the Disney Disaster. 

Once a guy pushed a woman out of the car and she landed on the blacktop of the Joyce Kilmer rest stop.  I couldn’t look away  

I don’t know.  Maybe the woman told him that he wasn’t going to have an adjoining bathroom to his suite in the family compound.  Maybe she told him his Nana was going to be on the second floor.  Maybe she said he couldn’t go to the gaming room anytime he wanted because some unknown strange dude was going to be smoking weed there.

You just never know, do you?

Lesson learned. 

[AngelaHunter]

In yesterday's "Carpet Caper," we got a clear demonstration of why evidence, in the form of pics, writings, contracts, etc. is needed and not just flapping gums.

Crotchety P says that the carpet remnant he got from Def was 12'x19' IIRC, and that a 4'x12' section was unusable due to fading. We finally see a picture of it and the damage seems to be about 8 INCHES wide. Yet, P still insists it's 4 feet, even when JM is pointing to it and showing him it's a tiny sliver. "How am I supposed to prove it's four feet?" he asks irritably.  Gee, a measuring tape would work. At any rate, he had quite a bit left over after Def's employees installed it all on the stairs and P thinks Def will bind and make 4 area rugs with the leftovers for free, and def wanted to charge him 100$. P wants all kinds of money for that and other things.

No contracts of any kind are written up. Def, the middle-aged businessman, says he works on handshakes and trust. Of course. I guess he's been extremely lucky in the past. In the hall, he proclaims that he's learned that contracts might not be a bad idea and will consider them in the future.

P tells him at the end of the case that he'll continue to do business with him.

[AngelaHunter]

19 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:

Once a guy pushed a woman out of the car and she landed on the blacktop of the Joyce Kilmer rest stop.  I couldn’t look away

A couple of years ago I was driving home on the highway. There was  car in front of me with a couple in it. Suddenly I see her (in the passenger seat) haul off and punch the driver. He hits her back and then they start a "physical altercattion" while driving at 60mph, just beating the hell out of each other.

I was terrified. Do I try to pass them? No, because while the driver is punching his lady, the car is drifting back and forth over the lines. Do I stay behind them? What if she lands a lucky punch and knocks him out? I'd be toast. I moved to the slow land and got off at the next exit where I waited about 15 minutes to let the battlers get well on their way or end up in a ditch. Crazy. People are crazy and these ones couldn't even wait til they got home to start whaling on each other.

[AngelaHunter]

I enjoyed today's cases.  No vandalism, violence, hypersexuality, or broken English.

Mr. Arnold, P, who looks like a generic character from many a sitcom, is suing for tires and rims he bought from def after one of the tires they put on fell off his 20-year-old Escalade as he was driving at 70mph.

"If it may please the court," Arnold says, so JM asks him if he's a lawyer. He says, "That's a good question", then tells her not in all jurisdictions. JM wants clarification. Mr. Arnold admits he's not licensed to practice in any jurisdiction, since he's not a lawyer at all! JM's hatred of him begins there and gradually increases each time he lies.

He explains to JM that the place where the def. works is not some 'high-flying place" (I'm sure he usually only shops at the most upscale businesses) and JM says, "It's a junkyard." Mr. Arnold has to agree.

P says he has bills and receipts showing damages for the tire that flew off, the rims, rental car, gas, repair for his car, lost work, and all that for a total of 4K.

Yes, he has receipts for everything. Oops. Sadly he didn't bring ANY of the originals. He has copies though! One of them is unreadable and another has clearly been doctored and not well.

He presents JM with a copy of the rental car bill. This is hilarious. It's from a rental place called "Cruisin' Maui Rent-a-Car" and has several different fonts on it, plus stuff written in pen. JM asks why it's a receipt from Hawaii? Oh, well, Mr. Arnold has no idea about that. "It's what they gave me."

JM is quite rightly incensed at this and gets even more pissed off when she's given some messed-up car repair receipt issued in Ohio when P lives in Kentucky. I think Mr. Arnold should be a lawyer since he's like most of them we've seen on this show. 

Def is not much better. He has the receipt he gave P, but "not with me." Okay. He says he told P to drive around the block to check if the job they did seemed okay to him, even though it seems they put the wrong-sized tires or rims on the car. P does so and it seems fine until he gets on the highway. Def says P wanted big tires and new rims because he wanted to sell the old Escalade and thought that would make it more desirable.

JM hates like hell to award the lying idiot P, who assumed SHE is an idiot, any money but has no choice but to give him back the money he spent for the tires/rims, some 1, 446$. No gas, repairs, or lost wages.

In the hall, Doug asks P if maybe he "monkeyed around" with those receipts.

"No, I wouldn't do that", P says. With his reputation, integrity, and morals he's "much above" such things. Maybe he's a pathological liar.

Then we had Mr. Vasquez, who looked like he uses Ronco Spray Hair, suing the tow company for illegally towing his old Nissan. He lives in an apartment complex that has assigned parking. Some woman was coming to spend the weekend with him. He tells her to park in his spot and he decides without permission that he'll park in the empty spot of a tenant who moved out.

He leaves his car there for nearly 4 days and on Monday when he goes out, the car is gone. He goes to the tow yard and is told he owes 500$ for tow&weekend storage. He has only 300$ so starts nagging the management company - they ordered the tow - that he's a tenant there so should be able to park where he likes and as long as he likes.

Two weeks pass and by this time the tow bill is a couple of thousand. He wants 2500$ for the value of his car. He never picks up the car so the tow yard auctions it for 1K. The tow company did everything they were asked to do, and have records, texts, and pictures to prove they just did what the complex manager asked them to do.

Mr. Vasquez gets nothing. JM asks the def, "Don't you feel bad for the guy?" Why should he? He's just doing his job and it's not his fault if P lost his car.  Should he let everyone off the hook because he feels sorry for them? He'd go broke PDQ.

[DoctorK]

33 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

Mr. Arnold admits he's not licensed to practice in any jurisdiction, since he's not a lawyer at all! JM's hatred of him begins there and gradually increases each time he lies.

We have heard this type of nonsense before.

33 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

He presents JM with a copy of the rental car bill. This is hilarious. It's from a rental place called "Cruisin' Maui Rent-a-Car" and has several different fonts on it, plus stuff written in pen.

This is hilarious.

34 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

JM is quite rightly incensed at this and gets even more pissed off when she's given some messed-up car repair receipt issued in Ohio when P lives in Kentucky

Phony receipts? I am shocked!

34 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

Def is not much better. He has the receipt he gave P, but "not with me."

Wow, I am sorry I missed this one due to severe weather about 100 miles away from me. I will have to watch out for this to come by again on reruns. What a crap fest.

[AngelaHunter]

1 hour ago, DoctorK said:

Wow, I am sorry I missed this one due to severe weather about 100 miles away from me. I will have to watch out for this to come by again on reruns.

You might check YT in a few days.

Mr. Arnold, junkyard aficionado, faux lawyer, and a big ol' liar.

 

 

[seacliffsal]

I admit that I did feel for Mr. Vasquez whose car was towed and now has been auctioned.  However, we once again see someone who thinks the rules are for everyone else but him.  If the litigants get to split the money (as there was no financial award in this case), then he may receive more than the car was worth and may come out ahead.

 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

I enjoyed today's cases.  No vandalism, violence, hypersexuality, or broken English.

Refreshing.  

3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

Mr. Arnold, P, who looks like a generic character from many a sitcom, is suing for tires and rims he bought from def after one of the tires they put on fell off his 20-year-old Escalade as he was driving at 70mph.

"If it may please the court," Arnold says, so JM asks him if he's a lawyer. He says, "That's a good question", then tells her not in all jurisdictions. JM wants clarification. Mr. Arnold admits he's not licensed to practice in any jurisdiction, since he's not a lawyer at all! JM's hatred of him begins there and gradually increases each time he lies.

I was trying to decipher a knitting pattern from hell and heard (what I believed to be) Newman from Seinfeld.  I looked up thinking I had a different channel and saw a guy who not only sounded like Newman but could pass for his double.  Ironically, Newman (the postman) pretended he too was a lawyer on Seinfeld.

 

3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

He explains to JM that the place where the def. works is not some 'high-flying place" (I'm sure he usually only shops at the most upscale businesses) and JM says, "It's a junkyard." Mr. Arnold has to agree.

P says he has bills and receipts showing damages for the tire that flew off, the rims, rental car, gas, repair for his car, lost work, and all that for a total of 4K.

Liar, liar, polyester pants in fire. 

3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

Yes, he has receipts for everything. Oops. Sadly he didn't bring ANY of the originals. He has copies though! One of them is unreadable and another has clearly been doctored and not well.

Yes. Exhibit “E”. The liar said it was the original but when JM pointed out “the original wouldn’t have Exhibit “E” written on it” the light of truth shone up his ample fanny 

3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

He presents JM with a copy of the rental car bill. This is hilarious. It's from a rental place called "Cruisin' Maui Rent-a-Car" and has several different fonts on it, plus stuff written in pen. JM asks why it's a receipt from Hawaii? Oh, well, Mr. Arnold has no idea about that. "It's what they gave me."

Either he’s really stupid or he thought JM was stupid. And we all know she wasn’t going to let that fly. 

3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

JM is quite rightly incensed at this and gets even more pissed off when she's given some messed-up car repair receipt issued in Ohio when P lives in Kentucky. I think Mr. Arnold should be a lawyer since he's like most of them we've seen on this show. 
 

Rimshot 

3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

Def is not much better. He has the receipt he gave P, but "not with me." Okay. He says he told P to drive around the block to check if the job they did seemed okay to him, even though it seems they put the wrong-sized tires or rims on the car. P does so and it seems fine until he gets on the highway. Def says P wanted big tires and new rims because he wanted to sell the old Escalade and thought that would make it more desirable.

JM hates like hell to award the lying idiot P, who assumed SHE is an idiot, any money but has no choice but to give him back the money he spent for the tires/rims, some 1, 446$. No gas, repairs, or lost wages.

The defendant also looked like a character from central casting.  Frankly, these two morons deserved each other  

 

3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

In the hall, Doug asks P if maybe he "monkeyed around" with those receipts.

"No, I wouldn't do that", P says. With his reputation, integrity, and morals he's "much above" such things. Maybe he's a pathological liar.

Doug was awesome. I haven’t heard the term “monkeying around” in ages. Love it. In honor of Doug I’m going to shoehorn it into a conversation this week.  My word as a unrecognized lawyer in the US 

3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

Then we had Mr. Vasquez, who looked like he uses Ronco Spray Hair, suing the tow company for illegally towing his old Nissan. He lives in an apartment complex that has assigned parking. Some woman was coming to spend the weekend with him.

Probably why he had six pounds of shoe black on his head, one pound each on the eyebrows and about a half pound on that lip thing he calls a mustache.  Maybe his “company” likes young men.  He would have been better off taking care of those bags under his eyes.  With all the shoe black on his face his eyes looked beadier than normal.  Poor guy maybe he didn’t have the $700 because his lady company is a bit on the spendy side.

 

3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

He tells her to park in his spot and he decides without permission that he'll park in the empty spot of a tenant who moved out.

He leaves his car there for nearly 4 days and on Monday when he goes out, the car is gone. He goes to the tow yard and is told he owes 500$ for tow&weekend storage. He has only 300$ so starts nagging the management company - they ordered the tow - that he's a tenant there so should be able to park where he likes and as long as he likes.

Those youngsters sure have a sense of entitlement!

3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

Two weeks pass and by this time the tow bill is a couple of thousand. He wants 2500$ for the value of his car. He never picks up the car so the tow yard auctions it for 1K. The tow company did everything they were asked to do, and have records, texts, and pictures to prove they just did what the complex manager asked them to do.

Mr. Vasquez gets nothing. JM asks the def, "Don't you feel bad for the guy?" Why should he? He's just doing his job and it's not his fault if P lost his car.  Should he let everyone off the hook because he feels sorry for them? He'd go broke PDQ.

The tow truck driver was awesome. Prepared, organized and even had pictures. Why should he feel bad for doing his job?   He’s cashing in on an epidemic of entitled morons. 

I say go for it!

[AngelaHunter]

29 minutes ago, PsychoKlown said:

I looked up thinking I had a different channel and saw a guy who not only sounded like Newman but could pass for his double.  Ironically, Newman (the postman) pretended he too was a lawyer on Seinfel

I never watched that show, but by golly - you nailed it.

 

[mtbingmom]

On 5/23/2023 at 3:49 PM, seacliffsal said:

JM let the Internationally Known Superstar know that she was an Internationally Known Judge.

The case of the internationally known singer, Malcolm Allen, is the 1:00 'rerun' here on Fox5. 🤪

[AngelaHunter]

Why could we not get more cases like Newman? They're enjoyable and amusing, instead of appalling, disgusting, depressing, and sordid.

Really, producers and The Levin?  It's really okay to have litigants who can speak properly, don't solve disagreements with baseball bats and trash property, aren't all dropping babies with MIA anonymous baby daddies, and don't have 10 aliases and 30 felonies under their belts.

I wonder why JM hates towing companies so much, even one like yesterday's who did everything by the book. I have to think she got her own car towed at least once and threw a hissy.😄 Even worse, maybe one of the angelic daughters got towed.

[Guest]

56 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

I wonder why JM hates towing companies so much, even one like yesterday's who did everything by the book. I have to think she got her own car towed at least once and threw a hissy.😄 Even worse, maybe one of the angelic daughters got towed.

Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner!

[DoctorK]

Today's first case, just a couple of low rent hustlers and chiselers, neither interesting nor entertaining.

Second case, it was amusing to try to count how many times the defendant referred to "the back of my head" as the source of his defense. Unfortunately, the only things in the "back of his head" were ignorance, entitlement and a complete lack of ability to reason. Also, he was unable to read and understand the clear words of the release that he freely signed, thinking that he could then leave the plaintiff on the hook for his unpaid water bill.

 

[CrazyInAlabama]

How do you rent a cosmetology license?  Plaintiff claims she rented the license from defendant, and defendant claims plaintiff offered her the manager's job.  Job for defendant never materialized.  Plaintiff is suing for $1,500,  for renting the cosmetology license for a year.   So, plaintiff ran a beauty shop without a license?   Pink Diamond Beauty Bar is the salon.   Defendant is counter claiming for $5,000 for lost wages. 

Plaintiff had to have a licensed cosmetologist employed, but didn't.  Instead plaintiff rented defendant's cosmetology license, didn't have anything but a business license, and was operating illegally. 

Almost eight months after the shop opened, plaintiff says defendant sent her a text requesting the next year's payment early.    The city caught up to the plaintiff, about her business license, and didn't have a zoning license. Plaintiff thought she had to show the cosmetology license from defendant, but she didn't need it.   Plaintiff panicked, and told defendant the situation, and claims defendant increased the price because plaintiff was desperate. 

Plaintiff claims she found someone else to let her use their license, so broke the agreement with the defendant.    Judge M says that the state cosmetology licensing board should do something about plaintiff using defendant's license.  Defendant didn't ask about what services the plaintiff's salon was performing.  

Since the text says defendant works for Sportsclips, I hope the franchise did something about defendant's renting her license out too.  

Judge M dismisses both cases.  She also says she's sending a transcript to the NJ Cosmetology Board.   Unfortunately, Doug is actually in the hallway with both of these loons.