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Freefolk trying to get spoilers out of Ramin in his Westworld reddit AMA. He held up very well. I wonder if he has started composing yet or if that happens at the very end.

So, IMO:

For Spain: Definite appearances - Kit, Maisie, Peter

May make an appearance: Emilia, Lena, Pilou, NCW, Gwen

Long shot possible appearance: Sophie, if Sansa has anything to do with the Cersei plot.

If Cleganebowl is happening: Hafthor and Rory

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^This.^ Thank you.  Months ago I posted that both Dany and Jon were at the top of my death list, but it never occurred to me that (a) she'd die crazy or (b) he'd kill her because she was crazy. Y

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oh thank god. y'all have stopped arguing about Sansa.

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According to Javi, Cersei is not in power by episode 5. I think the possibility that Dany is the one in control of KL, when and if the NK attack, just grew a lot more. Or maybe is Jon, and that's why she saw snow on the Iron Throne in her vision? Or maybe is both of them? If they get married after finding out Dany is pregnant and not at the end as many expect it? 

Oh and Kit was spotted in Belfast 

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Finally, a video/photo where I can actually see something. It is definitely the Unsullied and Dothraki. I am not surprised that they are at King's Landing. I never bought the idea that both armies would be wiped out before the end. I expected them to have the final stand against Cersei at King's Landing. I am surprised that the final battle with the Night King will be at King's Landing and not Winterfell. 

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1 hour ago, SimoneS said:

I am surprised that the final battle with the Night King will be at King's Landing and not Winterfell. 

 

Well, we don't actually know if the NK makes it to KL. What we know so far, according to L7R, is that the battle against the AOTD is at least till episode 4. We also know, according to Javi, that Cersei is not longer sitting on the Iron Throne when the dragon attack happens.

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Happy Harpy

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57 minutes ago, Edith said:

Well, we don't actually know if the NK makes it to KL. What we know so far, according to L7R, is that the battle against the AOTD is at least till episode 4.

They hyped the ice zombies for seven season, I can't help but think it would be a let down if they didn't get to KL. Which doesn't mean they will, of course.

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Sophie Turner has been attending her brother’s wedding (and presumably not filming).

Daniel Portman is booked as a guest at a New Zealand convention at the end of May and the beginning of June. So no Pod in KL? (Portman hasn’t been filming much to date, either. Gwendoline’s been in Belfast quite a bit, too, so it’s not looking good for Pod.)

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3 minutes ago, GrailKing said:

With a grain of salt:      

As pointed out on the thread, Rory McCann as a Scotsman would not use f** in that sense, as for him that would refer to cigarettes. The OP also claims to be from Belfast but uses the American spelling for rumour. 

OP does amusingly claim that the production nickname for Sansa this year is Charcoal, so points for creativity.

GrailKing

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I have heard a rumor that a certain actress has a code name, Charcoal i think they mean Sansa. Winterfell does burn you know

 

Charcoal i think they mean Sansa. Winterfell does burn you know

Sansa burns in WF confirmed!

1 minute ago, Eyes High said:

As pointed out on the thread, Rory McCann as a Scotsman would not use f** in that sense, as for him that would refer to cigarettes. The OP also claims to be from Belfast but uses the American spelling for rumour. 

OP does amusingly claim that the production nickname for Sansa this year is Charcoal, so points for creativity.

Just added that actually LOL, ( not for Sansa becoming charcoal )

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On 4/24/2018 at 9:58 PM, GrailKing said:

Maybe Sansa doesn't die, she gets scarred?

Possibly, but there's no reliable spoiler information either way. All we know is that Sansa isn't at all involved in the Winterfell battle scenes and beyond and that the bulk of her scenes to date seem to be interior shots filmed in the fall. If there are exterior scenes filmed between now and the end of filming from 8x06 with all the Starks present except Sansa, that would be something, but that hasn't happened yet. 

New information: A Spanish fan speculates that NCW is in Seville based on his Instagram story showing a hotel buffet pancake machine which features safety warnings in Spanish (as well as English and French). /WatchersonmyBalls claimed that Jaime dies in Brienne's arms in Episode 4, so NCW's presence in Seville to film for 8x05 or 8x06 would mean that Jaime survives 8x04. Freefolkers are claiming that these pancake machines are not rare and that the language of the warning does not mean that NCW is necessarily in Spain, so we'll have to see. Freefolkers also made the excellent point that it would be impossible for NCW of all people to avoid detection in Seville, given that he's pretty much mobbed by fans whenever he has filmed in Spain. #pancakegate

ETA: A Norwegian Airlines employee posted a selfie taken with NCW very recently (I think on a US route), so he's probably not in Spain. The employee said that he told her that they'd be filming until the end of the summer, which is strange because I thought they were wrapping in June...?

An interview was published with Pilou Asbaek saying that he has finished filming for Season 8. Pilou did another interview saying he was contracted for GOT through June, though, so who knows? Pilou sure hasn't filmed much to date, though, only a few weeks.

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I'm giving this a new post because it's big. From Irish Thrones:

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Just some of the scenes seen so far this wk at the Kings Landing set at Belfast in Ireland included closed off scenes(away from the large amount of extras) involving Dragons arriving at the #GameOfThrones capital. Today the set,workshops & Studios next to the set extremely busy!

Irish Thrones also said when asked about actors on set this week that Kit, Maisie and Liam have been there all week. So Jon, Arya and Davos in KL together..? And only them. Emilia's absence doesn't necessarily mean anything, since presumably if there are dragons arriving at KL Dany is riding Drogon (and Emilia's riding scene would be filmed in the studio with a green screen), but no Sansa, no Tyrion, and no Cersei. Very interesting. 

And while I'm at it, dragon(s) arriving at KL? So Rhaegal and Drogon?

...To be fair, Irish Thrones didn't specify that Jon, Arya and Davos were in the dragons arriving at KL scene, and they intimated that there were multiple scenes being filmed. So Davos may be doing something else. There aren't many scenes filmed that don't involve main cast, though, so it makes sense to assume that some combination of those characters would be involved in KL scenes.

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3 hours ago, Eyes High said:

I'm giving this a new post because it's big. From Irish Thrones:

Irish Thrones also said when asked about actors on set this week that Kit, Maisie and Liam have been there all week. So Jon, Arya and Davos in KL together..? And only them. Emilia's absence doesn't necessarily mean anything, since presumably if there are dragons arriving at KL Dany is riding Drogon (and Emilia's riding scene would be filmed in the studio with a green screen), but no Sansa, no Tyrion, and no Cersei. Very interesting. 

And while I'm at it, dragon(s) arriving at KL? So Rhaegal and Drogon?

...To be fair, Irish Thrones didn't specify that Jon, Arya and Davos were in the dragons arriving at KL scene, and they intimated that there were multiple scenes being filmed. So Davos may be doing something else. There aren't many scenes filmed that don't involve main cast, though, so it makes sense to assume that some combination of those characters would be involved in KL scenes.

 

?? what can this mean? This is really interesting. Omg I’m dying here lol speculation AHOY!

also if the dragons make it this far I am THRILLED!!!

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WindyNights

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Someone pointed out that this actually seems pretty dark. 

 

If Cersei is deposed by Episode 4 and the army of the dead isn't reaching KL but Daenerys isn't there at KL either yet the dragons, Unsullied and Dothraki are preparing for a siege on KL and breaking down the gates with dragons yet Arya, Jon, Bran and Davos are already there at KL and we know KL is blowing up in Episode 5 then....connect the dots.

GraceK

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12 minutes ago, WindyNights said:

Someone pointed out that this actually seems pretty dark. 

 

If Cersei is deposed by Episode 4 and the army of the dead isn't reaching KL but Daenerys isn't there at KL either yet the dragons, Unsullied and Dothraki are preparing for a siege on KL and breaking down the gates with dragons yet Arya, Jon, Bran and Davos are already there at KL and we know KL is blowing up in Episode 5 then....connect the dots.

Can you connect them for me? I don’t want to seem like an idiot but I’m not getting it ?

WindyNights

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18 minutes ago, GraceK said:

Can you connect them for me? I don’t want to seem like an idiot but I’m not getting it ?

Well I probably didn't make myself clear since it's actually multiple things come to think of it.

Darkest imaginable thing: If the army of the dead isn't there and Cersei is deposed then KL is blowing up because of human conflict. And if it's Jon in control of the city then Daenerys is fighting Jon for some inexplicable reason. And it blows up because of that.

Unlikely: Or Jon is a hostage to Euron but Pilou isn't filming much so that doesn't make sense either.

Least Dark: Or Jon and Daenerys are taking control of KL and the NK is coming himself via dragon so we're going to have a pure dragon fight over KL with Daenerys, Bran, Arya, Jon and Davos there to name a few that's going to destroy everything and everyone in it including the Dothraki, the Unsullied and whoever else is still there. 

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anamika

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Kit Harington and Maisie Williams have been filming together most of the time. Looks like lots of Jon-Arya next season and that GRRM's focus on their relationship in the books actually meant something in the end. Different roads sometimes lead to the same castle.

Glad to see Davos making an appearance on the KL set.

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Nathalie Emmanuel was spotted today at Belfast airport (Arrivals, it seems).

There was a post on /Freefolk of a screenshot of a message from the GOT folks to an extra about a change of filming dates. One of the filming dates was July 2nd. (The message was scrubbed from /Freefolk, so it could be a fake.)

Italica main cast filming is supposed to start on May 2nd, if I'm not mistaken.

Iain Glen signed on to film Mrs. Wilson (filming began April 16th). 

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Sunshinegal

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19 minutes ago, Edith said:

Rhaegar?! Why? The only thing I could think of is something related to TPTWP prophecy.

Maybe there's a twist with Rhaegar.  Maybe he really is evil and is secretly a sociopath.  I don't know.  I can't see why he would be there.  I rather have Elia and more of her thoughts.  She sounds more interesting. 

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1 hour ago, Edith said:

Rhaegar?! Why? The only thing I could think of is something related to TPTWP prophecy.

I'm pretty sure the GOT cast are forbidden from posting anything that directly reveals their location in Belfast or any other area where they're filming. If Wilf Scolding is willing to post a selfie that directly reveals that he's in Belfast, it's safe to say he isn't in Belfast for filming. Can't blame him for having a bit of fun at the fans' expense, though; it's more than fair payback for all the fans' complaints that he wasn't hot enough to play Rhaegar.

Italica filming with main cast starts very soon. All on eyes on Seville for cast members arriving...

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1 hour ago, Edith said:

Rhaegar?! Why? The only thing I could think of is something related to TPTWP prophecy.

A bunch of flashbacks for the reveal for Jon maybe?

If they do something like that, it will be more for the people who never picked up the book. I had a couple of friends who had no idea what was happening with the ToJ flashbacks. One thought that Lyanna and Ned had gone Cersei and Jaime, after I explained who the girl was and the other friend did not understand why Ned would keep Jon from his father Robert. Never mind the flashback from last season.

Rhaegar looms large in the books, but he's practically a nobody on the show. 

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1 hour ago, Sunshinegal said:

Maybe there's a twist with Rhaegar.  Maybe he really is evil and is secretly a sociopath.  I don't know.  I can't see why he would be there.  I rather have Elia and more of her thoughts.  She sounds more interesting. 

I’m more interested in Lyannas logic in this whole thing. She comes across as much more selfish  than all of them combined and I really want to see some sort of flashback that explains it cause I legitimately don’t understand her motives. Her brother and father are burned to death by her husbands father because of her and she does nothing? Her remaining brother and jilted fiancé go to war for her honor and she does nothing? Her husband rides off to fight against her family and she still does nothing? This makes no sense to me. This Lyanna Stark, defender of the downtrodden and fearless wolf girl that we heard so much about stays behind in a tower and doesn’t even send a raven to tell people that she consented to all of this? She runs off with someone else’s husband? People are dying all around her and the realm is in chaos and she’s merrily having sex and getting married and singing tra la la la with her silver haired prince. The two of them come across as the worst dill holes ever. There has to be something that we don’t know. Something that has yet to be revealed cause I just don’t understand how Lyanna Stark could just stand by while her famiy is being killed and war being started .

I also wonder what did Robert really know? Did he know LyannA went willingly ? Did he mislead the Starks? Did Lyanna and Rhaegar in fact send word to Aerys and Robert about the elopement and it didn’t reach them or Aerys was to insane to care?

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1 hour ago, GraceK said:

I also wonder what did Robert really know? Did he know LyannA went willingly ? Did he mislead the Starks? Did Lyanna and Rhaegar in fact send word to Aerys and Robert about the elopement and it didn’t reach them or Aerys was to insane to care?

Robert was at the Eyrie at the time of the crisis unfolding.  Any word sent to him would have been known to Jon Arryn and the Eyrie's maester.

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GraceK

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23 minutes ago, Edith said:

It wasn't for her honor, it was literally for their life. Remember that the Mad (rapist) king asked for Robert and Ned's heads.

My mistake. I realized that lol after I wrote it. ? so many things happened in this rebellion!!! This is my point!!! I need some more details! WTH Lyanna???

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13 minutes ago, GraceK said:

This is my point!!! I need some more details! WTH Lyanna???

Based on GRRMs other romances, I wouldn't be shocked if he ignores all the troubling aspects of R+L and just portrays them as love's young dream.  I mean, didn't Ned think something about how he held no ill will for Rhaegar, which is ridiculous given all the shit that went down?  But of course, GRRM is never actually going to get around to writing any R+L stuff so I guess it's a moot point.

I do wonder if we might get 1 or 2 more scenes of R+L in s8, maybe with Bran narrating to Jon to tell him a bit more about his parents.

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3 hours ago, bubble sparkly said:

Based on GRRMs other romances, I wouldn't be shocked if he ignores all the troubling aspects of R+L and just portrays them as love's young dream.  I mean, didn't Ned think something about how he held no ill will for Rhaegar, which is ridiculous given all the shit that went down?  But of course, GRRM is never actually going to get around to writing any R+L stuff so I guess it's a moot point.

I do wonder if we might get 1 or 2 more scenes of R+L in s8, maybe with Bran narrating to Jon to tell him a bit more about his parents.

I mean GRRM did compare Rhaegar and Lyanna to Jefferson and Sally Hemmings which can be seen as damning.

And no, Ned didn't think that. He actually thinks that he hadn't thought of Rhaegar in years which is interesting since he's around Jon so much. It shows that he thinks of Jon as Lyanna's son first and foremost.

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3 hours ago, TarotQueen said:

Weirwood Leviathan has pretty credible speculation as to the dragons involvement in the endgame at Kings landing. It's a pretty big spoiler if it's true so be aware ...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/weirwoodleviathan.wordpress.com/2017/09/08/bran-them-all-the-fate-of-kings-landing/amp/

I love it.

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I do like that theory, mainly because Bran's current lack of emotions make him the most likely candidate to decide that nuking KL is the best option.  I'm not sure Jon, Dany and co would be able to bring themselves to kill a million people, even if it is the best way to prevent the NK's army from growing.  Whereas Bran would just shrug it off and decide it has to be done.

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I've seen additional speculation that Bran might end up warging Drogon as Dani is riding him to accomplish the grisly task.  It's certainly interesting to consider what light this would put her in to people who thought they knew what they saw especially Jon if he is still alive.  If Bran goes full on Nirvana with the emotion of it all, he will likely be incapable of clarifying to her defense.

The other esaays on that site are fantastic btw, and also do end game speculation and asoiaf history explanation.  The Cold War series about the Others is really interesting ...,

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The good news? There's now a set report from Italica via /Freefolk, courtesy of user mpr2009 who's in Spain on holiday. The bad news? Unfortunately, it's a whole lot of nothing:

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Not as interesting as it sounds but thought I'd post....

The site doesn't feel ready for filming , there's trucks coming in and out clearing away trees,plants etc from around the amphitheatre area

When I went by I saw what looked like large metallic steps by the amphitheatre entrance, presumably for the camera equipment

There aren't a massive amount of crew but the ones who are here all seem Spanish,no Belfast or indeed English speaking voices...

There's a separate inner parking area for the cast to get out without being seen. There's also a back entrance and there are even police notices there regarding no parking/stopping

Local media are interested,and are hanging around outside.

Still sounds like they're prepping, and that they're taking a lot of precautions to make sure cast aren't spotted arriving or leaving. Judging from the message to the extra about extended and altered filming dates in June and July, I'm wondering if filming has been pushed back from the original dates. I would imagine the production is bound by whatever agreement they made with Seville authorities about the dates for closure of the Italica site, though.

You'd expect Los Siete Reinos to have lots of good stuff on the Seville shoot, but I haven't seen anything substantial on the subject posted on the website.

The phrase "Bran them all" (referencing the theory that Bran wargs a dragon who burns KL to eliminate the AOTD) is oddly hilarious to me.

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3 hours ago, TarotQueen said:

I've seen additional speculation that Bran might end up warging Drogon as Dani is riding him to accomplish the grisly task.  It's certainly interesting to consider what light this would put her in to people who thought they knew what they saw especially Jon if he is still alive.  If Bran goes full on Nirvana with the emotion of it all, he will likely be incapable of clarifying to her defense.

The other esaays on that site are fantastic btw, and also do end game speculation and asoiaf history explanation.  The Cold War series about the Others is really interesting ...,

That essay was interesting and it made a lot of sense.  I agree that the other essays are fantastic.  After reading these essays it made me speculate that BRAN is the Prince that was Promised or Azor Ahai.  Also that essay about season 8 episode 3 speculation made so much sense and fit the books and the show IMHO. 

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Happy Harpy

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Although his storyline not really fitting the TV medium mostly isolated him, Bran has always been a main character and one of the original five. I've always been of the mind he'd warg a dragon (I thought Tyrion would be riding it, while Jon and Daenerys rode the two others, the dragon has three heads and so on). Let's see if it happens, after all it's still speculation at this point, but for sure he's going to have a prominent role, as well as Arya (wonder if the "Arya's Needle"mention of the original outline will become "Arya's catspaw" here, why was it in Sam's book?) Jon, Daenerys, Tyrion.

I'm less sure about Tyrion's role during the battle per se these days, but if he isn't decisive then, I think he'll be the main artisan of rebuilding the kingdom afterwards.

Rhaegar was obsessed with the prophecy and the threat looming over Westeros. He dropped his beloved arts to become a warrior because of it. Until proven otherwise, I'll stay convinced that he was no more a selfish airhead than he was a cruel rapist. Ditto Lyanna.

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A Twitter user posted a video from Italica of crew putting up a long plastic barrier to obscure the site from view. Looks like HBO's not taking any chances. Whatever's getting filmed there, I'm thinking it's got to be big.

47 minutes ago, Happy Harpy said:

Although his storyline not really fitting the TV medium mostly isolated him, Bran has always been a main character and one of the original five. I've always been of the mind he'd warg a dragon (I thought Tyrion would be riding it, while Jon and Daenerys rode the two others, the dragon has three heads and so on). Let's see if it happens, after all it's still speculation at this point, but for sure he's going to have a prominent role, as well as Arya (wonder if the "Arya's Needle"mention of the original outline will become "Arya's catspaw" here, why was it in Sam's book?) Jon, Daenerys, Tyrion.

I'm less sure about Tyrion's role during the battle per se these days, but if he isn't decisive then, I think he'll be the main artisan of rebuilding the kingdom afterwards.

We know very little about what Tyrion's going to be up to in S8. The only Tyrion-related spoiler I can think of is that 4chan tidbit with Tyrion supposedly manning the battlements with Sam at Winterfell before the battle. There haven't been many Dinklage sightings in Belfast for the past few months, either, and Dinklage hasn't been seen in Belfast for weeks. 

Most of the Tyrion spoilers exist by negation: he's not involved in the big Winterfell/AOTD battle, he doesn't go beyond the Wall or travel to the remote North (since only Emilia and Kit filmed in Iceland), he's not present when Jon meets with Cersei, he's not with Jon, Arya and Davos when they're in KL (since those three had KL scenes), etc. Of course, all of that applies to Sansa as well. We probably won't have any inkling what Tyrion and Sansa are up to until 2019 unless set spoilers trickle out. 

Sophie probably isn't filming this week since she was still in Los Angeles on Monday, and someone posted a photo today of someone they claimed was NCW (also in California).

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Wouter

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16 hours ago, TarotQueen said:

Weirwood Leviathan has pretty credible speculation as to the dragons involvement in the endgame at Kings landing. It's a pretty big spoiler if it's true so be aware ...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/weirwoodleviathan.wordpress.com/2017/09/08/bran-them-all-the-fate-of-kings-landing/amp/

Interesting speculation, and pretty credible. There has been earlier speculation about "bran them all", but never quite with such arguments. Would be a good ending for the main storyline of ASOIAF, IMO.

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I don’t think Bran fits the PTWP/Azor Ahai prophecy. That essay argues he is a God (or the God/Lord of Light). Jon, most likely, is the PTWP/Azor Ahai reborn, though Dany is a strong contender as well. Bran plays his part in the war (a big part) but ultimately Jon and/or Dany destroy the Others and save humanity, which they couldn’t have done without Bran. I agree it’s looking increasingly likely that Bran will burn King’s Landing. Jon and Dany seem unlikely to do it given their character arcs, and it doesn’t make sense for the Night King to do it because then the people of the city can’t be part of his army. 

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Interesting Belfast weirdness afoot: Pilou and Maisie, like Wilf Scolding (Rhaegar), also posted on IG clearly revealing their location in Belfast (which is unprecedented). Maisie posted a video showing someone driving in the Belfast studio lot. /EveryFckngChicken (very reliable) said that the video was taken today and that the driving was filmed by someone else as well (someone they haven't yet named).

So assuming the IG posts are legit, here's who is in Belfast this week: Kit, Alfie, Nathalie, Maisie, Pilou, and Wilf Scolding

There may be more, but those are the ones we know about.

/GotlikeLocations is hearing that there are rumours that GOT filming will start in Seville in the middle of next week. 

WindyNights

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11 hours ago, TarotQueen said:

I've seen additional speculation that Bran might end up warging Drogon as Dani is riding him to accomplish the grisly task.  It's certainly interesting to consider what light this would put her in to people who thought they knew what they saw especially Jon if he is still alive.  If Bran goes full on Nirvana with the emotion of it all, he will likely be incapable of clarifying to her defense.

The other esaays on that site are fantastic btw, and also do end game speculation and asoiaf history explanation.  The Cold War series about the Others is really interesting ...,

I think there's a good chance that Bran dies in the KL explosion and he stays permanently warged into Drogon. Meaning he can't clarify shit and lives on as some dragon-"god".

There's a pretty good line in the books foreshadowing all this. 

 

The traitors want my city, I heard him tell Rossart, but I'll give them naught but ashes. Let Robert be king over charred bones and cooked meat. The Targaryens never bury their dead, they burn them. Aerys meant to have the greatest funeral pyre of them all. Though if truth be told, I do not believe he truly expected to die. Like Aerion Brightfire before him, Aerys thought the fire would transform him . . . that he would rise again, reborn as a dragon, and turn all his enemies to ash.

Replace Aerys Targaryen with Bran Stark.

Oh yeah and I forgot these lines from TWOW: 

 

"The bleeding star bespoke the end," he said to Aeron. "These are the last days, when the world shall be broken and remade. A new god shall be born from the graves and charnel pits."

Graves and charnel pits being the corpses that KL's explosion would leave behind and combine that with the above quote that I provided means that Bran Stark doesn't become a god until he and Drogon presumably become one.

He'd be like Martin Septim from The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion.

"You will never walk again, Bran," the pale lips promised, "but you will fly."

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TarotQueen

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4 minutes ago, WindyNights said:

I think there's a good chance that Bran dies in the KL explosion and he stays permanently warged into Drogon. Meaning he can't clarify shit and lives on as some dragon-"god".

That sounds so fucking wicked!  Life after life as a mfing dragon god.

You also supported the idea nicely with the quote.  Well done that.  

It would be really cool to read about a dragon gods existence ... kind of like the whatever year 2000 book about Dave Bowman the Star Child but GRRM already has a ways to go before he 'finishes' much less writing about after the after ...

anamika

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So Lannisters against Starks/Dany in KL? We know Jon and Arya are involved (Kit and Maisie are supposedly there this week) and the unsullied/Dothraki has been sighted. NCW has been seen - possible valonqar scene with Cersei in KL.  I am guessing Tyrion will also be involved in KL scenes

The Greyjoys (Pilou, Alfie) maybe there as well.

PS: HBO has gone all out to prevent leaks and really tightened the security after last time. It's amazing that we have no leaks till date despite the hundreds of extras used.

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The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the NK will be gone in the North. We still have no evidence that AOTD will be part od KL's battle. Think about it. D&D spent S6 and S7 to bring everyone who will fight against AOTD to Winterfell. First they brought Sansa and Jon and characters around them. Then they brought Arya and Bran, and Jon will bring Dany and Tyrion and all characters around them. And then BwB, Gendry and Jaime will also come there. They brought Sam and Gilly at the end of S7.

My question is why bother if the real fight will be in the south? Jaime could've joined them in the South. Sam and Gilly as well. BWB, Gendry and Daenerys. They were all in the South. If the real battle against the WW will be there why waste 2 seasons to bring almost the entire cast to WF, only to move them south to fight against the WW again?

And if Dany and Jon weren't able to defeat them in the North, how will they do that in south, with weakend army and Cersei and Euron there? And why would the NK even let them leave the North alive if he is going to win at WF?

From that letter from producers it seems that in terms of scale WF's battle will be the biggest battle in the show ever and that KL will be smaller in scale. Why shoot the biggest battle ever if the NK is going to be defeated in the second battle, that will be smaller? It doesn't make any sense.

We know that there will be even bigger Qyburn's scorpions at the wall of KL in S8. Who put them there? Dany? To fight Viserion? If she wanted to fight a dragon, she has her 2 dragons, she wouldn't use Qyburn's weapon. So, Cersei put them there. For whom? Dany probably. 

Now that attack from the Golden Company makes narative sense. We shouldn't forget that Dany, Jon and Tyrion wanted truce from Cersei. Not her armies. Cersei promised them armies, yes, but that was a bonus. So if she doesn't attack them while they deal with the NK, that means that Cersei kept her promise. She respected the truce! And if Cersei respects the truce there is no reason for Dany and Jon to want to move their exhausted and tired army agianst Cersei just after they defeated the NK. There will be time for that in the future when they recover. But if Cersei attacks them just before the AOTD, it proves that they have to remove her, that she won't respect any truce, even for a time, they have to move against her immediately.

Meredith Quill
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