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S05.E02: Chapter 54

Athena

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Chaos Theory

Chaos Theory

The Claire stuff was the most interesting.  When she was speaking with Ken and realizing what loose lips.  All the things he said about Frank were quite insightful....in a different world. 

"if the world was a different place back then."

What I found interesting was that instead of being jealous Claire was more irritated and worried that Jennwoukd aid out Frank's dirty laundry.

i did like the cyber attack angle though,  Gling full out attack.  In order to scare Congress enough to declar war.  I haven't much cared for Conway so far this season but his final speech ag the end about war was well done.

Latverian Diplomat

Latverian Diplomat

Ah yes, voter suppression, something minorities get hit by every election....but twist{ this time it's about white people.

And I don't agree that white people, even conservatives, would feel too threatened by law enforcement or troops or whatever to vote. They think of themselves as law abiding citizens who support the troops. Also, many Republicans vote absentee anyway.

Ridiculous.

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Michichick

Michichick

8 hours ago, Miles said:

So, I don't get the centralised voting centers. Frank Underwood is a democrat. That can only hurt him. Democratic voters are far more likely to not have a mode of transportation to get there. Is this just bad writing or am I missing something?

The voting centers were only instituted in areas that were Republican strongholds, not in areas of Democratic strength. So presumably Democratic votes weren't suppressed. There was some passing reference to this in one of the episodes but I don't remember which episode because of binge watching.

Miles

Miles

11 minutes ago, Michichick said:

The voting centers were only instituted in areas that were Republican strongholds, not in areas of Democratic strength. So presumably Democratic votes weren't suppressed. There was some passing reference to this in one of the episodes but I don't remember which episode because of binge watching.

Seems flimsy. But thanks for the info!

hincandenza

hincandenza

2 hours ago, knaankos said:

This is so bad now. I haven't had this much change of heart for a show in a while. I don't think I enjoyed a second of this episode. The writer character is perhaps my least favorite character in any show in recent memory. All of his attempts to be wry or have dry humor fall flat on their face and yet it's somehow seducing Claire.

In his defense, the actor who plays Tom Yates- Paul Sparks- was fantastic as supporting character Mickey Doyle on "Boardwalk Empire".  But this role seems to have no purpose (so far), and the whole swingin' lifestyle subplot of the Underwoods has pushed all credibility in being this secret this long (again, so far), given how indiscreet they are.

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Lemons

Lemons

On 5/31/2017 at 9:59 PM, Latverian Diplomat said:

Ah yes, voter suppression, something minorities get hit by every election....but twist{ this time it's about white people.

And I don't agree that white people, even conservatives, would feel too threatened by law enforcement or troops or whatever to vote. They think of themselves as law abiding citizens who support the troops. Also, many Republicans vote absentee anyway.

Ridiculous.

It's funny how they are trying to suppress votes in white districts and it comes off as really stupid.  They should have made his character a Republican.  How is anyone believing that these very specific suburban or rural areas are being targeted as opposed to cities?

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Armchair Critic

Armchair Critic

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On 5/31/2017 at 9:28 PM, Chaos Theory said:

The Claire stuff was the most interesting.  When she was speaking with Ken and realizing what loose lips.  All the things he said about Frank were quite insightful....in a different world

I realize she wants to keep Frank's relationship with his friend quiet, but she was such a bitch to that guy. I don't care for Claire but I still think she could do better than that flunkie writer.

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Michichick

Michichick

18 hours ago, Armchair Critic said:

I realize she wants to keep Frank's relationship with his friend quiet, but she was such a bitch to that guy. I don't care for Claire but I still think she could do better than that flunkie writer.

I had the impression that Claire never realized until that moment that Frank's relationship with his old college buddy was more than just friends. Am I off-base in that thought?

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Athena

Athena

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15 hours ago, Michichick said:

I had the impression that Claire never realized until that moment that Frank's relationship with his old college buddy was more than just friends. Am I off-base in that thought?

We're given to understand that Claire and Frank know pretty much everything about each other. Claire knows that Frank is at minimum bisexual and I still think the Meechum situation was her doing it for Frank rather than her own desire. I think Claire's worries in those scenes were not just about the loose lips but that she knew that Frank's relationship with his friend was very important to him. She worried more that it would push him over the edge.

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Dobian

Dobian

How is Conway always where Underwood is?  Meetings, public events, funerals, as his guest in the White House.  Conway has been in the same room with Frank more times in one day than Romney was in the same room with Obama during the entire 2012 campaign.

I hope the weasel Doug Stamper finally gets some kind of comeuppance this season.

The whole manipulation of the governors was so transparent.  Yep, only the governors of the key swing states need to bring in troops and set them up around voting centers in Republican districts.  Right.  At least that one staffer saw through Doug's shit.

I get that this show is Machiavellian, but does every single thing everyone does have to be cynical and manipulative?  Everything with everyone is just an agenda within another agenda, nothing is genuine.

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Hanahope

Hanahope

Did we meet Frank's old friend Tim before?  I don't recall.  Its a bit hard to realize  his "importance" when we don't know much about him, or their relationship.

Frank sure seems good at manipulation of the governors.  I too tend to call bullshit that there'd be threats against rural or suburban areas.  Terrorists do tend to hit cities.  But even some states, like PA, have some small cities that are much more conservative than say Philly or Pittsburgh that I suppose could be targets.  Still, the whole idea of voter suppression is going to backfire, since it will also hurt democratic voters.

The planned interruption of internet/cellular service, and its apparent ease, is pretty scary.

One has to wonder what other skeletons are in our actual Congress' closet, as blackmail does seem like a typical political tactic.

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