S02.E04: Survivors

[MarkHB]

2 hours ago, KirkB said:

That was pretty much my interpretation of the scene. I also remember Alex's reaction last season when Astra saw the picture of her and Kara embracing and said something to the effect of "I knew there was something more between you and my niece".

Taking it to the Alex thread...

[Stuffy]

1 hour ago, MarkHB said:

Taking it to the Alex thread...

Does Alex have a thread?

[MarkHB]

50 minutes ago, Stuffy said:

Does Alex have a thread?

She will; I had other things come up. :)

[regularlyleaded]

5 hours ago, KirkB said:

I also remember Alex's reaction last season when Astra saw the picture of her and Kara embracing and said something to the effect of "I knew there was something more between you and my niece".

I know this may be just me, but I think y'all are reading way too much into that moment. Astra says (actual quote) "I knew there was more to you and my niece" to Alex after Astra sees a picture of Alex and Kara together as children. Clearly, based on that picture, they have a childhood connection, so Astra was commenting on that long history which that picture is evidence of. I don't think Astra was implying something romantic was going on at all. Alex's reply simply confirms Astra's suspicions - yes, they have childhood history because they were raised as sisters.

Edited November 7, 2016 by regularlyleaded
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[AudienceofOne]

17 minutes ago, regularlyleaded said:

I know this may be just me, but I think y'all are reading way too much into that moment. Astra says (actual quote) "I knew there was more to you and my niece" to Alex after Astra sees a picture of Alex and Kara together as children. Clearly, based on that picture, they have a childhood connection, so Astra was commenting on that long history which that picture is evidence of. I don't think Astra was implying something romantic was going on at all. Alex's reply simply confirms Astra's suspicions - yes, they have childhood history because they were raised as sisters.

It's not just you. And I was biting my tongue but they are sisters so this interpretation is gross. And the idea that Alex would interpret that comment that way is even grosser. People who don't know the familial relationship and who found out about Alex's sudden random lesbianism MIGHT interpret things differently. But only if they assume that Supergirl must be a lesbian because all powerful women are. Apparently. 

[KirkB]

Actually, I think I may have said it wrong. What I meant was, I remember Astra seeing the pictures (it's been a while but I seem to recall more than one, and at least one was of Kara and Alex as adults) and I interpreted it as Astra jumping to THAT conclusion. Alex had a sort of freaked out reaction, but it was as if she was bothered by the fact it was her and her sister, not necessarily her and another woman.

Edited November 7, 2016 by KirkB

[BkWurm1]

7 hours ago, KirkB said:

"Stupid Kryptonian computer!" Mon-El randomly hits buttons until the engines start. "Finally!" Once in space: "Wait, isn't that the..." Takes twenty year nap inside the nebula where time doesn't pass.

Doesn't actually explain how he got out though. Assuming he is telling us the truth he flew (accidentally or intentionally) into the nebula in stasis. Which I would presume means the pod was on something like auto pilot. So what, I wonder, told it to start up after twenty years or so and head to Earth? As was stated Kara got pulled out by Indigo and Fort Rozz. Either there is more to the story than he's telling us or the writers aren't trying really hard.

 

The trip from Krypton to Earth takes years so some kind of stasis should be assumed always anyway but it does get extra tricky in explaining how passing through the nebula would get him NOW to Earth.  I am willing to assume that Mon'El is actually the prince and thus pretty dumb about how the pod actually works, lol.  I assume he just forked up the programming.

Edited November 8, 2016 by BkWurm1

[regularlyleaded]

2 hours ago, KirkB said:

Actually, I think I may have said it wrong. What I meant was, I remember Astra seeing the pictures (it's been a while but I seem to recall more than one, and at least one was of Kara and Alex as adults) and I interpreted it as Astra jumping to THAT conclusion. Alex had a sort of freaked out reaction, but it was as if she was bothered by the fact it was her and her sister, not necessarily her and another woman.

Ah, I see. Unfortunately, your recollection of the scene is inaccurate. I think you're conflating different scenes. 

While there are two different pictures used in the scene in question, both pictures are of Kara and Alex as children. The first picture is seen at the beginning of the scene when Alex is in Kara’s apartment holding and looking at a picture of her and Kara together as young girls. The second picture - the picture that Astra sees - is yet another snapshot of Alex and Kara together as children, and that picture is sitting on a nearby table when Astra sees it and makes the comment “I knew there was more to you and my niece.” 

I’m not sure where your mind is coming up with the picture of Kara and Alex as adults (probably from another episode?) but in this particular scene the only pictures we see (and that Astra sees) are of Kara and Alex as children. Hence, I really don't think Astra was implying that Kara and Alex had some sort of romantic relationship based on that picture she saw of them as children; I just don't believe even for a second that was the intention of the writing for that scene.  And also, Alex's reaction (IMO) wasn't freaked out when Astra makes her comment about the picture. Alex merely replies, very matter of fact, "She's my sister."

Edited November 8, 2016 by regularlyleaded

[Chicago Redshirt]

I think the show needs to spend a lot more time on Kara and her reasons for wanting to do her double-life. It was bad enough last year where she was in her Devil Wears Pravda (pun intended) phase with Cat. But I could buy that Cat was a figure that she admired and respected enough to put up with the abuse to learn from her. Her wishing to become a reporter, I could buy that too. But then she should spend time being a reporter. Once again, she might want to call on her cuz to get advice on actual reporting and on leading the double life.

In this particular case, putting aside that she can legitimately claim access to a source at the DEO, and she could have interviewed Maggie Sawyer and any of (let's say) 100-200 people attending either of the fight clubs, Kara literally spoke with and got an all-access pass to Lena Luthor. And Lena confirmed for her the existence and the location of the fight club. And none of that involves using her super-powers to report or running into the ethical dilemma of quoting herself. The fact that she's not trying very hard to report makes the reporting stuff seem weak.

As for the villain of the week, Dichen Lachmann's streak of underwhelming in genre shows continues. But it's not entirely her fault. Roulette from the Justice League arranged her metabrawls by hypnotizing people into fighting. For whatever reason, they didn't want to have this Roulette press people into fighting against their will, except she still kinda sorta does. Also, it doesn't really make sense to have the two Martians fight to the death. Why wouldn't you want a rematch, or to have others have a shot at both of them? There was literally nothing that we saw that would have stopped either Martian (or for that matter, many of the aliens) from just snapping Roulette's neck.