Morrigan2575 February 10, 2017 Author Share February 10, 2017 (edited) So, the not like Isabel could simply refer to Susan not working with for Promethus and/or Talia. That still doesn't rule out Susan's article sending police after GA in 14. Edited February 10, 2017 by Morrigan2575 4 Link to comment
Velocity23 February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Morrigan2575 said: So, they not like Isabel could simply refer to Susan not working with for Promethus and/or Talia. That still doesn't rule out Susan's article sending police after GA in 14. Could it be that Talia/Prometheus were guiding her giving tips regarding Oliver Queen. Just like Felicity is getting guiding and direction by Pandora/Heliks. Link to comment
apinknightmare February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said: That still doesn't rule out Susan's article sending police after GA in 14. It is my greatest wish. 2 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 February 10, 2017 Author Share February 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, apinknightmare said: It is my greatest wish. Mine to. At this point I'm sold. I don't think they will ever convince me that there's genuine feelings there, not after 512. 5 Link to comment
Cleanqueen February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 If it isn't her then I don't know who gives the tip that the GA killed Billy. And we heard that she is indeed investigating that story so more evidence that it is indeed her. Link to comment
insomniadreams88 February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said: That still doesn't rule out Susan's article sending police after GA in 14. I want this too. Just get on with whatever Susan reveal is coming please. Maybe she'll blame her producer again. Didn't she do that in 503 with Thea? I wonder if someone told the director it was just a cover-up. Maybe no one did? Otherwise, why focus on it? That's just stupid. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 February 10, 2017 Author Share February 10, 2017 They took the pains of setting it up in 12, I just can't imagine they did it for no reason. 1 Link to comment
Chaser February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 Thoughts about Felicity and a potential Dark BOP. We know she doesn't bring in the woman, but we do know that KH is back after 5x14 and Felicity said the episode title for 5x15 in this last episode. I wonder if she gets the idea to use China White (at least)against Prometheus. CW is part of the Triad and if Ghost Fox is more than just an Easter egg, there could be a connection. Is it possible they focused on it because they had a different plan for her but nixed it after the initial feedback? Link to comment
insomniadreams88 February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 https://www.watchtivist.com/all-interviews/arrowdrs5 A couple of things I noticed: Quote Oh man. You’re a fan favorite so I don’t have any thoughts on that in that regard. And as a fan favorite, what’s something you hope the show goes deeper into for Diggle next season? Lyla and Diggle. The Diggles! I think we should have a spin off, what do you think about that? For me, that’s a story in waiting. I think most people would agree he’s basically second in command of Team Arrow and he’s married to the leader of A.R.G.U.S.. He’s married to the new Amanda Waller, the woman who has her finger on the trigger for the Suicide Squad. What does dinner look like for them? What do they talk about? Their child, who is now a son, they find out in Flashpoint was once a daughter. Oliver knows this, but nobody else does. That relationship, I’d really love to see what happens. Uh, everyone know this. Barry told Diggle John was Sara in front of all three teams and Kara in the crossover. I think the only person who hasn't been told onscreen might be Lyla. Quote That’s so true. And lastly, anything you’d like to say to those reading and watching? Prometheus is our “big bad” this season and we aren’t done with that. We aren’t done with Slade Wilson. How Prometheus manipulates the team to slowly destroy and break down Oliver Queen is going to be every interesting and I hope people enjoy it. Could that mean something or is it just the fact that Slade's still alive and locked up? 1 Link to comment
ComicFan777 February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 (edited) Crackpot theory: Slade or one of his kids (maybe his daughter Rose Wilson aka Alena) is behind Helix and setting Felicity up for the fall since Slade definitely wants revenge against Felicity. Edited February 10, 2017 by ComicFan777 3 Link to comment
apinknightmare February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 14 minutes ago, insomniadreams88 said: Uh, everyone know this. Barry told Diggle John was Sara in front of all three teams and Kara in the crossover. I think the only person who hasn't been told onscreen might be Lyla. He's been hanging out with Wendy. 5 Link to comment
way2interested February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 20 minutes ago, insomniadreams88 said: Could that mean something or is it just the fact that Slade's still alive and locked up? The most it could be is that someone related to Slade comes back in some way, unless they just use the suit again like in 508. Although, I would wonder what Slade has to do with anything while trying to deal with Prometheus. 1 Link to comment
Angel12d February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 (edited) Seeing how Prometheus knew about E2 Laurel and where to find her, I think it's safe to assume he knows about Slade and their history. And probably where he's locked up. It's interesting because in Slade's villain monologue from 209 he said he was going to corrupt the ones Oliver loved. And Prometheus seems to be doing his job for him. Haha. Also I'm laughing how that thing on Susan's wrist is basically nothing. So it seems like she really is just a boring reporter. Yawn. Edited February 10, 2017 by Angel12d 1 Link to comment
thegirlsleuth February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 I know we probably won't get Slade back because Manu Bennett has been less than delightful, but if Prometheus wants to get into Oliver's head there is no better way than unleashing Slade. I mean he broke Black Siren out of the pipeline, why not get Slade off Lian Yu? Having his daughter set up Felicity might be a good second choice. 2 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 February 10, 2017 Author Share February 10, 2017 Wonder where all these interviews are coming from? Was there a media day recently? Link to comment
Velocity23 February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 Reporters were on set in Vancouver. Link to comment
apinknightmare February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 (edited) An "adult conversation" + "surprising reaction" means it's gonna be NBD I guess? Maybe Oliver will encourage her to use it more (although that wouldn't match with the speech he gave her and Diggle this week, but what is consistency?). Edited February 10, 2017 by apinknightmare 7 Link to comment
dtissagirl February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 Natalie Abrams was asking for questions a few days ago, so yes? Link to comment
Chaser February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, apinknightmare said: An "adult conversation" + "surprising reaction" means it's gonna be NBD I guess? Maybe Oliver will encourage her to use it more. I hate those words because I always end up disappointed Seriously, I would be surprised if he kissed her. Can we get that? 19 Link to comment
Midnight Lullaby February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 The surprising reaction part is the reporter take though, not something SA said.. I'm guessing he is going to brood until the time is right and they can let him talk to her. Brooding is the one think that comes to mind when I think about Oliver's way of dealing with problems, LOL. 1 Link to comment
insomniadreams88 February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 Yeah, I have a feeling this is going to end up being at least a bit disappointing whenever it finally happens because they're stretching it out. It'll end up being more "well, finally" than anything else. Link to comment
Carrie Ann February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Chaser said: I hate those words because I always end up disappointed Seriously, I would be surprised if he kissed her. Can we get that? Right? So, given SA's use of his two favorite O/F buzzwords--"surprising" and "adult"--my best guess is that he finds out about Pandora, asks her about it gently, asks if she's done with it, and assuming she is, they let it go and move on. No judgment, no concern, NO DRAMA! 11 Link to comment
Velocity23 February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 (edited) I think this might be only the start of it. Probably takes place during 5x15-5x16. And then its gonna have its culmination in 5x20. I am ok that they take their time with this. Edited February 10, 2017 by Velocity23 1 Link to comment
dtissagirl February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 Imo they need to end 515 in a positive O/F note for them to survive hellatus without a new audience exodus, but I'm using human logic to think that, and they don't. 22 Link to comment
lemotomato February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 I hate it when SA uses the word "adult" because it always turns out to mean "robot" onscreen. 21 Link to comment
insomniadreams88 February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 We should be getting the 515 description soon, right? Link to comment
Velocity23 February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, insomniadreams88 said: We should be getting the 515 description soon, right? should be this week. Link to comment
Midnight Lullaby February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 I'm okay with them taking their time too because I loved Felicity's shady methods in the last episode and I don't want her to give up on them too soon so I'm ignoring that it doesn't make a lot of sense for him not to talk to her as soon as he can since he knows something is wrong. I hope SA will be able to convey that Oliver is worried and is unsure about talking to her though if the script doesn't help. 1 Link to comment
Carrie Ann February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 I was mostly being snarky because the "adult" thing now gets my hackles up, but I do want them to take their time with this Felicity story, and I kind of don't care that it doesn't make logical sense for Oliver to not press more about what she's doing. I can fanwank that he just doesn't really know how to talk to her anymore and just let that be a good enough answer for now--same if he is sort of mollified by whatever happens in their Surprising Adult Conversation, but the story continues past that point and he once again misses the forest for the trees. I just hope that there is SOME emotional payoff to it, at some point? I'm tired of anticlimaxes on this show. 24 Link to comment
Starfish35 February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Carrie Ann said: I'm tired of anticlimaxes on this show. So so so much this. 6 Link to comment
Velocity23 February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 I am thinking the cliffy for 5x15 is Talia showing up in Star City in the present. 1 Link to comment
insomniadreams88 February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Velocity23 said: I am thinking the cliffy for 5x15 is Talia showing up in Star City in the present. Since I'm expecting that to happen at some point and I don't think that would be much of a cliffhanger ... yep, sounds about right, especially after the 509 "Laurel" cliffhanger. 1 Link to comment
AyChihuahua February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, insomniadreams88 said: Since I'm expecting that to happen at some point and I don't think that would be much of a cliffhanger ... yep, sounds about right, especially after the 509 "Laurel" cliffhanger. That one was particularly amusing, because many people knew KC would be in 510. 2 Link to comment
Belinea February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 When has SA last used the word 'adult'? Also 'he's dealing with it in his own way'... Is he going around brooding because she won't tell him or is he trying to figure it out in his own way. 1 Link to comment
Trisha February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Midnight Lullaby said: I hope SA will be able to convey that Oliver is worried and is unsure about talking to her though if the script doesn't help. Agreed! I'm worried that "dealing with it in his own way" means he'll be so busy with Susan/Prometheus/mayor-ing that he won't even notice anything is up with her until 515. The last time he described an "adult" conversation between them was the balcony convo about Billy, which was pretty disappointing so I'm hoping even after they talk she still keeps doing her own thing for a while until everything comes to a head around 520. Edited February 10, 2017 by Trisha 8 Link to comment
Angel12d February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 (edited) I seem to remember the word "adult" getting thrown around before the season started, about how O/F were handling working on the team together since their break-up. And I'm pretty sure SA may have said the resolution of his kid storyline was adult too. So...yeah. Haha. Edited February 10, 2017 by Angel12d 9 Link to comment
Cleanqueen February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 I think that Stephen might have used the adult lingo when he was referring to the BMD and how they would handle it. I guess it's the adult way to just break up lol. And yes I agree with others, let's take our time with Felicity and her story, I like that we are getting pieces here and there. I do think the climax of her story happens in 5x15 and that is why her and Oliver have the convo in the first place. I can see her being passionate in her stance but that Oliver won't yell or berate her for it. Let's assume by then Suzy is out of the picture then they can start to slowly rebuild them because I want a 3x20/5x20 parallel and the only parallel I mean is banging against every surface possible. 2 Link to comment
Tazmania February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 Tbh, there is nothing adult about Oliver never apologizing to Felicity about BMD and then being a total idiot about everything after that. In addition, Stephen Amell is playing S5 Oliver as a not so bright man who looks tired/lethargic all the time. I have no idea for this particular acting choice. 17 Link to comment
Sunshine February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 Didn't MG say they had written but not yet filmed (individual) scenes where Curtis, Diggle & Oliver were trying to reach her? Depending on the interview timing I thought that might be 5.18 - 5.20. Since WM said she was still mourning Billy in 5.20 I figured she was still using Pandora at that point. Link to comment
bijoux February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 2 hours ago, insomniadreams88 said: https://www.watchtivist.com/all-interviews/arrowdrs5 A couple of things I noticed: Uh, everyone know this. Barry told Diggle John was Sara in front of all three teams and Kara in the crossover. I think the only person who hasn't been told onscreen might be Lyla. Maybe he means the rest of the current team doesn't know, i.e. Curtis, Rene and Tinah? Although we're still left with the tricky issue of Felicity. 3 minutes ago, Sunshine said: Didn't MG say they had written but not yet filmed (individual) scenes where Curtis, Diggle & Oliver were trying to reach her? Depending on the interview timing I thought that might be 5.18 - 5.20. Since WM said she was still mourning Billy in 5.20 I figured she was still using Pandora at that point. Just... Wow. Although if she's still mourning him as much as she is now, sure, why not. 1 Link to comment
Velocity23 February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sunshine said: Didn't MG say they had written but not yet filmed (individual) scenes where Curtis, Diggle & Oliver were trying to reach her? Depending on the interview timing I thought that might be 5.18 - 5.20. Since WM said she was still mourning Billy in 5.20 I figured she was still using Pandora at that point. Mourning Billy? Honestly i think that was a fairytale that Wendy invented to justify the bf storyline for 5A. Because this mourning hasnt happened on screen. But we get Felicity feeling responsible for Havenrock again. 8 Link to comment
Velocity23 February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 (edited) I think the 5x15 scene is about the secret coming out. Not sure SA would spill stuff beyond 5x15. Edited February 10, 2017 by Velocity23 Link to comment
Sunshine February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 (edited) I think the secret is coming out in 5.15. Just because Oliver knows doesn't mean she stops. She might. I just took "mourning Billy" to mean she's still involved with Helix in 5.20. What can I say mourning Billy is only acceptable to me if it's code for something else. :-) Edited February 10, 2017 by Sunshine 4 Link to comment
Chaser February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 Because I can't stop with the S3 parallels either, I'm thinking it could play like the Olicity in The Offer. 2 Link to comment
Velocity23 February 10, 2017 Share February 10, 2017 I am still waiting for Oliver to pull a few fast ones on Felicity .... like i was promised by Wendy. 4 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 February 10, 2017 Author Share February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, dtissagirl said: Imo they need to end 515 in a positive O/F note for them to survive hellatus without a new audience exodus, but I'm using human logic to think that, and they don't. I'm the last person to ever claim shippers/Stans/fandom would have an impact on ratings but, I think you're right 2 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 February 10, 2017 Author Share February 10, 2017 42 minutes ago, Sunshine said: Didn't MG say they had written but not yet filmed (individual) scenes where Curtis, Diggle & Oliver were trying to reach her? Depending on the interview timing I thought that might be 5.18 - 5.20. Since WM said she was still mourning Billy in 5.20 I figured she was still using Pandora at that point. WM said that they had written but hadn't filmed scenes yet with all 3 trying to reach her. I have no idea if that's in 1 or multiple episodes. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 February 10, 2017 Author Share February 10, 2017 Is CW in reruns the week of the 27th? Just curious why they haven't released the episode descriptions yet 1 Link to comment
Chaser February 11, 2017 Share February 11, 2017 I'm assuming getting attacked isn't his biggest challenge? Also, that tells me nothing about Felicity. She is awful at writing these. Link to comment
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