greenbean October 3, 2015 Share October 3, 2015 Kiera pressures Carlos for more time; Kellog faces unexpected danger; the future soldiers plan a raid. Link to comment
tessaray October 4, 2015 Share October 4, 2015 I'm just going to say it. I don't see how they can end this in only one more episode. And RIP, Travis. 1 Link to comment
kikaha October 4, 2015 Share October 4, 2015 Tessaray, I'm also curious to see how they tie it all together. Shame the series ends with the next episode. I could have enjoyed several more seasons. 2 Link to comment
tessaray October 4, 2015 Share October 4, 2015 I'd rather they leave some loose ends than try to tie it up neatly because there's way too much to fit into an hour. (Unless most of the episode is exposition from the future.) Endings that I would hate include 1) this has been a CMR illusion all along, 2) Kira flips a magic reset button and the future is sunshine and rainbows or 3) everybody dies and the future resumes where it was. 1 Link to comment
greenbean October 5, 2015 Author Share October 5, 2015 I thought the Kellog break-out was a bit much. Couldn't they just wait for the lawyers to release him? Carlos or whoever complained that he'd be out in 24 hours. It seems they've drawn more attention to themselves this way. 2 Link to comment
Mars7 October 7, 2015 Share October 7, 2015 (edited) I'm just going to say it. I don't see how they can end this in only one more episode. And RIP, Travis. I've been doing a little digging. To my understanding, the older Alec character played by William B. Davis...is actually the owner of the film company that the show "Continuum" filmed under in Vancouver, Canada. The show could have well continued but from what I read, Davis pulled the plug since his film company was contracted for 2015 by Fox Television's "The X-Files" for the filming of the new six episodes. Also, Davis was casted again as the 'Smoking Man' character for these new episodes. "Continuum" has been a great sci-fi show that I really enjoyed for the past four years. I think the show's creator and writer, Simon Barry, should bring the show back with another film company from Canada. Edited October 7, 2015 by Mars7 3 Link to comment
tessaray October 7, 2015 Share October 7, 2015 I thought that the ratings were not good enough for a full season pickup? Whatever the reason, I would watch if SB found a way to take the core characters into an alternate timeline. One without old Alec, if need be. Link to comment
Mars7 October 7, 2015 Share October 7, 2015 (edited) I thought that the ratings were not good enough for a full season pickup? Whatever the reason, I would watch if SB found a way to take the core characters into an alternate timeline. One without old Alec, if need be. Granted, more successful in Canada than in the U.S. Continuum had quite a few accolades since their run. Showing all 14 wins and 32 nominations http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1954347/awards Edited October 7, 2015 by Mars7 2 Link to comment
MrWhyt October 8, 2015 Share October 8, 2015 I've been doing a little digging. To my understanding, the older Alec character played by William B. Davis...is actually the owner of the film company that the show "Continuum" filmed under in Vancouver, Canada. The show could have well continued but from what I read, Davis pulled the plug since his film company was contracted for 2015 by Fox Television's "The X-Files" for the filming of the new six episodes. Also, Davis was casted again as the 'Smoking Man' character for these new episodes. "Continuum" has been a great sci-fi show that I really enjoyed for the past four years. I think the show's creator and writer, Simon Barry, should bring the show back with another film company from Canada. Reunion Pictures (the production company) doesn't have anything to do with William B. Davis, at least not according to their website. Link to comment
Mars7 October 9, 2015 Share October 9, 2015 (edited) Reunion Pictures (the production company) doesn't have anything to do with William B. Davis, at least not according to their website. Yep, good catch. This old guy has the coin. I knew I read this online somewhere but the name of his film company is, William B. Davis Productions Inc. He also owns a film school in Vancouver. http://www.williambdavis.com/williambdavisproductions http://www.mandy.com/service/WIL471/ Reunion Pictures Inc.Develops and finances high quality television and allied multi-platform properties. As well as its traditional métier of prime-time drama, it has affiliated companies in documentary /lifestyle programming and Asian co-productions. Producers and Production Companies, Production Financing in Canada - British Columbia Also: How the Magic & Economics of Canadian Sci-Fi TV Helped Create 'Continuum' Photo of Liz Shannon Miller By Liz Shannon Miller | Indiewire December 9, 2014 at 6:08PM What went into the decision to make the fourth season the final season? I'm obviously not privy to the conversations that happen inside the network, but I think from their perspective... whether it was an issue of internal profits or the money that gets recycled back into the broadcaster, to cover what they're paying out or whether we're simply making a creative decision, I think ultimately we were probably on the bubble in terms of how we were bringing money back in for the Canadian broadcaster. In terms of their decision-making process, we probably received the benefit of the doubt in terms of not being canceled, which a lot of shows are when they're not performing to expectations. They wisely recognized there was an opportunity to service the fans, and also to make more of an event around this final season. It seemed like a lot of things lined up in our favor in that sense. Obviously, I'm speculating, because you never get to hear the inside information. http://www.indiewire.com/article/how-the-magic-economics-of-canadian-sci-fi-tv-helped-create-continuum-20141209 In the rumor mill, Davis knew he was going back to filming "The X-Files" thus forcing Simon Barry to fold up shop. Edited October 9, 2015 by Mars7 Link to comment
Bort October 9, 2015 Share October 9, 2015 Considering that Davis isn't IN Continuum all that much, I kinda doubt his work on The X-Files would hinder the show that much. The ratings weren't that good, I think that's pretty much the reason. 1 Link to comment
MrWhyt October 9, 2015 Share October 9, 2015 Yep, good catch. This old guy has the coin. I knew I read this online somewhere but the name of his film company is, William B. Davis Productions Inc. In the rumor mill, Davis knew he was going back to filming "The X-Files" thus forcing Simon Barry to fold up shop. William B. Davis productions doesn't produce Continuum. And as mentioned he's been in 9 episodes of the series, his filming of the X-Files wouldn't cause that much of a hassle, he's not one of the leads. Link to comment
Mars7 October 9, 2015 Share October 9, 2015 (edited) William B. Davis productions doesn't produce Continuum. And as mentioned he's been in 9 episodes of the series, his filming of the X-Files wouldn't cause that much of a hassle, he's not one of the leads. You're right because Simon Barry pointed that out in the above article I cited. Rumor for leaving Continuum because of X-Files moving in. An article from last fall indicated his film company was used for the production of Continuum. I will find the article. I never thought he was the primary investor for the show but when I read this article from last year I started connecting the dots. Edited October 9, 2015 by Mars7 Link to comment
MrWhyt October 9, 2015 Share October 9, 2015 (edited) I didn't say production, I said film company. What services (if any) did William B. Davis Productions supply to Continuum that couldn't be supplied by the other companies in the Vancouver area? Did you read the article from Simon Barry? It was about money. yeah, the show wasn't bringing in enough money to Showcase, it's primary backer, There is no mention of William B. Davis production pulling the plug, or any mention at all of the company in the article. Edited October 9, 2015 by MrWhyt Link to comment
Mars7 October 9, 2015 Share October 9, 2015 Considering that Davis isn't IN Continuum all that much, I kinda doubt his work on The X-Files would hinder the show that much. The ratings weren't that good, I think that's pretty much the reason. But Davs' money would, if true. The ratings were higher in Canada than in the U.S. Link to comment
Mars7 October 9, 2015 Share October 9, 2015 (edited) What services (if any) did William B. Davis Productions supply to Continuum that couldn't be supplied by the other companies in the Vancouver area? yeah, the show wasn't bringing in enough money to Showcase, it's primary backer, There is no mention of William B. Davis production pulling the plug, or any mention at all of the company in the article. People With Money’s factorsIn compiling this yearly list, the magazine considers factors such as upfront pay, profit participation, residuals, endorsements and advertising work. The Canadian actor-director has an estimated net worth of $145 million. He owes his fortune to smart stock investments, substantial property holdings, lucrative endorsement deals with CoverGirl cosmetics. He also owns several restaurants (the “Fat Davis Burger” chain) in Ottawa, a Football Team (the “Toronto Angels”), has launched his own brand of Vodka (Pure Wonderdavis - Canada), and is tackling the juniors market with a top-selling perfume (With Love from William B.) and a fashion line called “William B. Davis Seduction”.The ranking is significant for many William B. fans, who have been waiting for his triumphant return to the glory days for what seems like a lifetime. I said rumor but I don't know. Investments change and maybe he had something to do with the show when I read the article from last year. I am not doubting you because everything you have said was what I always believed. Showcase was the primary broadcaster in Canada but for many television shows, the primary money backers can sometimes remain anonymous. At this point, I would have to say...you're correct. I'm probably reading into this, but Simon Barry said he was not privy which means he was guessing of why the show was cancelled. I know William B. Davis owns a lot of investments and companies and by rights his networth is higher than I thought. Edited October 9, 2015 by Mars7 Link to comment
MrWhyt October 9, 2015 Share October 9, 2015 The Canadian actor-director has an estimated net worth of $145 million. He owes his fortune to smart stock investments, substantial property holdings, lucrative endorsement deals with CoverGirl cosmetics. He also owns several restaurants (the “Fat Davis Burger” chain) in Ottawa, a Football Team (the “Toronto Angels”), has launched his own brand of Vodka (Pure Wonderdavis - Canada), and is tackling the juniors market with a top-selling perfume (With Love from William B.) and a fashion line called “William B. Davis Seduction”.The ranking is significant for many William B. fans, who have been waiting for his triumphant return to the glory days for what seems like a lifetime. I said rumor but I don't know. Investments change and maybe he had something to do with the show when I read the article from last year. I am not doubting you because everything you have said was what I always believed. Showcase was the primary broadcaster in Canada but for many television shows, the primary money backers can sometimes remain anonymous. At this point, I would have to say...you're correct. I'm probably reading into this, but Simon Barry said he was not privy which means he was guessing of why the show was cancelled. I know William B. Davis owns a lot of investments and companies and by rights his networth is higher than I thought. you're sure that's about William B. Davis and not Matthew Davis? (http://en.mediamass.net/people/matthew-davis/highest-paid.html) The American actor has an estimated net worth of $245 million. He owes his fortune to smart stock investments, substantial property holdings, lucrative endorsement deals with CoverGirl cosmetics. He also owns several restaurants (the “Fat Davis Burger” chain) in Washington, a Football Team (the “Salt Lake City Angels”), has launched his own brand of Vodka (Pure Wonderdavis - US), and is tackling the juniors market with a top-selling perfume (With Love from Matthew) and a fashion line called “Matthew Davis Seduction Link to comment
Mars7 October 9, 2015 Share October 9, 2015 you're sure that's about William B. Davis and not Matthew Davis? (http://en.mediamass.net/people/matthew-davis/highest-paid.html) http://en.mediamass.net/people/william-b-davis/highest-paid.html Link to comment
MrWhyt October 9, 2015 Share October 9, 2015 http://en.mediamass.net/people/william-b-davis/highest-paid.html yes that's the website claiming all that stuff, but if you read it you'll see it's a near exact copy of what is there for Matthew Davis which I linked to. Link to comment
Mars7 October 9, 2015 Share October 9, 2015 (edited) yes that's the website claiming all that stuff, but if you read it you'll see it's a near exact copy of what is there for Matthew Davis which I linked to. That's funny. Another good catch. Holy crap! So what is he worth? $2 million or $46 million? I guess one can never believe everything you read online. Edited October 9, 2015 by Mars7 Link to comment
wanderingstar October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 (edited) I thought the Kellog break-out was a bit much. Couldn't they just wait for the lawyers to release him? Carlos or whoever complained that he'd be out in 24 hours. It seems they've drawn more attention to themselves this way. Yeah - shooting up VPD seemed like a way too labor intensive method for getting Kellogg out of jail. Damn, I am going to miss the deliciousness of Stephen Lobo in Kellogg's suits. Thank God Roger Cross will still be on my TV in Dark Matter, or I woulda been hella pissed at Travis dying. At least he went out a hero like Lucas (::sniff::) I hate seeing Carlos and Keira fighting. And I was super stressed Carlos was going to die in this ep. Edited October 10, 2015 by Gillian Rosh 3 Link to comment
ketose October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 I refuse to blame the evil corporations for Continuum's demise. Look at what Liber8 did to screw up the timeline because they blamed the corporations :P Most of the time, it's a balance between cost of production, revenue from broadcasters and how it fits into the overall scheme of things. I get annoyed because I think Lost Girl kind of took the steam out of what may be considered another sci-fi show with a strong female lead. Speaking of revenue, I'm having a sad over the last episode. I think Canada already saw it and I have to wait another week. I assuming Syfy paid less than ever for this run because they're airing it at 11pm after the horrible Z Nation. This episode seemed to have an excessive amount of filler for the penultimate airing. One interesting thing I heard was Kellogg's plan to use Travis' body to create the super soldiers. If Travis blew up enough to yield no important technology, does that mean the portal opens next week to a completely different future? 1 Link to comment
Bort October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 I hate seeing Carlos and Keira fighting. Especially since during the whole fight I was like, "Oh, just kiss her, Carlos. You know you want to." 2 Link to comment
wanderingstar October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 (edited) I refuse to blame the evil corporations for Continuum's demise. Look at what Liber8 did to screw up the timeline because they blamed the corporations :P You win the internet today :-) kariyaki, my heart swelled when Carols said to Keira, "I don't want to lose you." after the horrible Z Nation. Been wondering if I should add this show to my Syfy roster. Wonder no more, I guess. Forgot to say in my previous post, I loved the Travis/Kellogg scene. "I am the embodiment of what Liber8 was fighting for." Oh, Kellogg - don't ever change. Edited October 10, 2015 by Gillian Rosh 3 Link to comment
misstwpherecool October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 (edited) Yeah - shooting up VPD seemed like way too labor intensive method for getting Kellogg out of jail. ...... pissed at Travis dying. At least he went out a hero like Lucas (::sniff::) I hate seeing Carlos and Keira fighting. And I was super stressed Carlos was going to die in this ep. Final epi's condensed so yeh it was safe to assume a lead character would die. Fitting even if not intentional that during Kellog's escape the man who murdered his grandmother dies. Travis was a believer & leader. I think after 'the lecture' by Kellog how Travis would be remembered inspired him to comeback into the station. Kind of puzzled by those ultra fast healing nanites healing really really fast with bullets flying through his body but the entire escape shootout was a bit over done. I wish they had elaborated on 2035 more. Carlos understands time travel enough to remind Kiera that there might not be a home to go to ie the suicide mission. Dillon the wild card for the final epi. I kept on thinking the Terminator when they finally blew up the office with those nanites and other tech left to salvaged from the rubble and bodies. Also just "a" chance but was Travis really killed? No cameo from Betty this year? And where is Garza? Loose ends for a movie or reboot? Just as time traveling back should've altered events for Kiera's future wouldn't the invasion alter their future. Could be why the police became on intent implementing technology and used the police playbook. Edited October 10, 2015 by misstwpherecool 1 Link to comment
shapeshifter October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 (edited) Thank God Roger Cross will still be on my TV in Dark MatterAnd showing up in a lot of other shows!ETA: Including this past week's Bones episode. (Just got around to watching.) Edited October 10, 2015 by shapeshifter 2 Link to comment
sjohnson October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 Fell flat for me. Walking Dillon back from his choice of Piron didn't redeem the character because there's no obvious reason why he would do that. No, I don't regard an appeal from Kiera as a real reason, much as I adore her. Link to comment
zxy556575 October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 (edited) Am I supposed to care what Dillon does or where his heart lies? Cuz I don't, at all. I've also lost patience with Keira so guess that leaves me hoping Kellogg emerges triumphant in whatever future he desires. Take over the world, you conniving bastard! I've come to admire your determined, single-minded, and wholly self-interested guile. Edited October 11, 2015 by lordonia Link to comment
Cobb Salad October 10, 2015 Share October 10, 2015 I kept on thinking the Terminator when they finally blew up the office with those nanites and other tech left to salvaged from the rubble and bodies. Also just "a" chance but was Travis really killed? No cameo from Betty this year? And where is Garza? Loose ends for a movie or reboot? Just as time traveling back should've altered events for Kiera's future wouldn't the invasion alter their future. Could be why the police became on intent implementing technology and used the police playbook. Maybe Travis is indestructible like the T1000 terminator? It looked like Dillon was dead when Sonia blew up so with Travis, who knows. I guess it's possible he will be alive again in the future but with the different path time is taking his life could be very different. I'm wondering where Garza is too, hope to see her in the finale. Also hope we see Julian, if his exit was going to live with young Kagame and his mother and that's it I'll be disappointed. I don't get how others coming from 20 years in the future is going be good at all. Depending on how old those who come back are there's a younger version of them roaming around in the present, wouldn't that be a problem? Couldn't those who already came back work to make their future better for those that they left behind? Link to comment
TVSpectator October 11, 2015 Share October 11, 2015 (edited) So, I hadn't had time to comment on this episode till now but wow, that fight scene at the end was, intense (to say the least) but also, IMO, very unnecessary too (and I don't even remember the older Star Trek having a fight scene that ended up blowing up a building like that). Also, RIP Travis. So, since this is the second to last episode does anyone think that once Kiera goes back to the future, that this will just create some kind of time loop? Where all of our characters are still alive and are willing to repeat the process (minus of course Kiera) because they don't know (yet) the actual damage that they will cause by traveling time? Edited October 11, 2015 by TVSpectator 1 Link to comment
iMonrey October 11, 2015 Share October 11, 2015 Well at least someone finally pointed out to Kiera that her future may no longer exist. 'Bout time. I kind of wish they wouldn't dredge up the specter of characters that were killed off in previous seasons like Kagame and Escher because I have a hard enough time remembering everything that happened last season, let alone three seasons ago. Then again, bonus points for continuity I guess. I knew someone was going to die, so I'm just glad it wasn't Alec or Carlos. I was never a big fan of Travis anyway and was happy when he was "killed" the first time. I do wonder what the heck happened to Garza though. Link to comment
wanderingstar October 11, 2015 Share October 11, 2015 (edited) I noticed in this episode that when Carlos told Travis that Keira was working on trying to get home, Travis' response was: "She's just woken up, and now she wants to go back to sleep?" So, I like that they're acknowledging this about-face by Keira and having other characters question it. It definitely feels like many things are being rushed, but I guess that's inevitable in an abbreviated season. Edited October 12, 2015 by Gillian Rosh 3 Link to comment
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