Raja September 7, 2015 Share September 7, 2015 So are hero's ship is in dry dock. The doctor whose efforts will save much of humanity has been shot. President Michener has set up a new center of government in St Louis. Where do we go from here? They have teased warlords like Gunderson in Maryland are holding other population centers. And that contact can be made with the rest of the world. My favorite is since the Secretary of the Navy made a cameo we are in real time so President Michener must face an election against one of those warlords. Meanwhile Nathan James while trying to stop successions also might escort a Secretary of State to Europe where the Immune Death Cult said they held power or Latin America to reestablish a global community. Link to comment
GoMocs September 8, 2015 Share September 8, 2015 TNT, please reconsider and cancel next summer! It was fun watching, it was enjoyable, but you told the story! Why must you keep a story going. Books have endings, why can't a series have an ending without dragging it on forever? Link to comment
GoMocs September 8, 2015 Share September 8, 2015 Plus I have a question...what happened to our guys out there in the boomers? The subs with the nuke missiles? They can stay at sea for months on end...where are they at during this show? Link to comment
HalcyonDays September 8, 2015 Share September 8, 2015 Raja, I slightly modified the title of this thread, because it looked a bit spammy to me. But great idea for a thread! Link to comment
xaxat September 9, 2015 Share September 9, 2015 (edited) I really don't know where they could head from here. Obviously they can pump out more episodes, but the premise of the show, the thing that brought me in, has been satisfied. They found a cure and are reestablishing the US government. To quote a previous administration, "Mission Accomplished." I addition, this being a Michael Bay production, there are themes I think will be "out of bounds" for exploration by the writers. The President won't turn out to be secretly evil. There won't be any blue on blue conflicts between the Nathan James and other US military units. (Alfre Woodard's character was surrounded by state troopers.) The good guys will remain the good guys and there won't be any "grey". I'll be around for next season, but I don't have my hopes set too high. Edited September 9, 2015 by xaxat Link to comment
Raja September 9, 2015 Author Share September 9, 2015 Plus I have a question...what happened to our guys out there in the boomers? The subs with the nuke missiles? They can stay at sea for months on end...where are they at during this show? Well the British sub also was a nuke I don't know if the Royal Navy runs roughly 100 day patrols like the US Navy does or if the same thing could have happened to the US submarine force. If one survives they come and do signal intel until they hear the Ramsey and the President's dueling propaganda broadcast. but now with the Ramsey's gone and Norfolk and St Louis spreading the knowledge of the vaccine and the American way when would a submarine Captain decide to try to reestablish contact, Link to comment
Lonesome Rhodes September 9, 2015 Share September 9, 2015 One thing we will sure as heck not see is how the most basic aspects of communal life will be handled. First and foremost? Currency. What good are federal reserve notes when there is no Federal Reserve? What would an average person accept in exchange for goods or services? Would you give up food for fuel? What price? Multiply this problem times a gazillion. The only way early civilization can work is through sheer force and a command economy. That's gonna go over well, eh? Bay has a built-in irony when the government necessarily becomes tyrannical trying to save/establish a republican democracy. The president's enemies can and will gleefully capitalize on the seeming hypocrisy. As for the show, a very real issue would be the crew. Would they not call it a day and quit? Just how would Chandler induce them to stay in uniform? They absolutely did not sign on to this super-constitutional mishmash gestating in St. Louis. 2 Link to comment
RedDwarfIV September 9, 2015 Share September 9, 2015 (edited) As for the show, a very real issue would be the crew. Would they not call it a day and quit? Just how would Chandler induce them to stay in uniform? They absolutely did not sign on to this super-constitutional mishmash gestating in St. Louis. I imagine they'll be getting a long shore-leave anyway, what with the Nathan James needing significant repairs and restocking. Plus their captain is now tied to St Louis as CNO. I wonder if they'll get sent to Norfolk to start up another destroyer, or even a cruiser, to use in the meantime. In any case, those enlisted that reinlisted got a speech about how they weren't just fighting for America, but for all humanity or something, didn't they? Edited September 9, 2015 by RedDwarfIV Link to comment
Dowel Jones September 9, 2015 Share September 9, 2015 One thing we will sure as heck not see is how the most basic aspects of communal life will be handled. This was one of the aspects where the show Revolution failed miserably. There was evry little explanation of how the various societies had evolved or how they were functioning, and, of course, the overlying plots of the show could not be sustained with any believeability. That being said, it will be a real problem for the writers to concentrate on one smallish set of characters in a limited sphere of influence without some sort of plot foundation. Link to comment
ginar369 September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 There is still so much to do. Currency is a big thing. Me? I'd head to the Federal Reserve or Fort Knox or wherever we keep our gold, silver and platinum and secure it and probably bring it to St. Louis for safeguarding and restart our currency tied to gold. A new White House needs to be found. Cabinet members need to be named. Elected officials and elections! I would also head back to DC and get the Constitution and bring it back. Same with other important documents in the archives. I'd secure the Pentagon and any tech and info there that might be necessary. Same with NORAD. If they seriously can't get into that bunker in the White House I think it needs to be destroyed. The same with the Pentagon. First off it is too big of a symbol to let it remain there for some warlord to declare himself the President and move in. Second having those rotting bodies inside? Gross. The free world has only one ship, The Nathan James, in dry dock undergoing repairs to protect it from rogue groups. Teams need to be sent out to find other working ships and crews must be trained. Fire and Police must be trained and put to use. Communications have to be reestablished. Hospitals, doctors, nurses, judges etc... It might even be beneficial to try to get the population of the US to move to the midwest and St. Louis. At least until the US Government is firmly established. Then people can be sent back out to the other cities complete with trained police, fire, doctors, nurses to repopulate those cities. And it also makes it more likely that everyone will have received the vaccine/cure. One ship isn't going to be enough to take on whatever obstacles are out there in the rest of our country much less the rest of the world. They can't cure the rest of the world without encountering just as many problems as they did curing this small portion of the US. There will still be some who want to control the cure in their countries and cities, or even destroy it. So no I don't think the show is done. I'm glad there will be a third season and hopefully more after that. Their initial mission is complete yes. But that doesn't mean they are done. Just because the cure has been found doesn't mean the world is all better. It is a mess and someone needs to start fixing it. Unfortunately the crew of The Nathan James is the only military and pseudo police force that exists right now. Their job is far from done. Link to comment
iMonrey May 31, 2016 Share May 31, 2016 Based on the sneak preview for the first S3 episode I don't have real high hopes for this season. As others have pointed out, they have pretty much exhausted the premise of the show, and now they're just moving into generic action cliche territory. If this weren't a summer show when so little else is on I would probably skip it altogether. I re-watched the S2 finale and thought "yeah, this story is pretty much done." Anywhere they go from here sort of defies the concept of the Nathan James being the "last" ship. Link to comment
maraleia May 31, 2016 Share May 31, 2016 I'm waiting to see where the female characters go on this show and if they aren't written well this season then I'm out. I'm worried the producers aren't going to handle things well and I say this as a fan of the show. Link to comment
MissLucas June 2, 2016 Share June 2, 2016 (edited) I wasn't sure to stick with this for another season - but they added Bridget Regan to the cast! I love her and wish she'd finally get her own show but in the meantime I'm happy to see her on the USS Nathan James. Edited June 2, 2016 by MissLucas Link to comment
MDKNIGHT July 25, 2016 Share July 25, 2016 I've missed a couple of episodes so maybe I'm way off but isn't it possible that Dr Scott isn't dead? Did they show incontavertilble proof when I wasn't looking because (a) Powerful people wanted her dead and if you could pull off faking they succeeded, it would mean others wouldn't be still trying. (b) How much easier would it be to fake somebody's death post apocalypse? I mean people pull it off now and we live with a maximum amount of tech and cameras you'd have to fool. Post apocalypse I would have to think just changing your name to Jane Smith would mean you could lay low. Who the heck is checking ID anymore. (c) Nobody has seen Tex have they? Did they explain where he went? Couldn't he be guarding Scott? He's somebody who could be trusted with her safety. I don't know but I still hold out hope. Link to comment
CrazyDog July 26, 2016 Share July 26, 2016 I think she's dead but there's a small part of me in denial that's still hoping she's in hiding somewhere. I did not think she would be killed off AT ALL and especially with such a weak send off. Unless something happened and Rhona Mitra wanted off the show uunexpectedly. Link to comment
Lonesome Rhodes July 27, 2016 Share July 27, 2016 Altering reality is well within the methodology of TPTB of this show. No question. However, they keep mentioning that she really is most sincerely dead. Link to comment
Raja July 27, 2016 Author Share July 27, 2016 34 minutes ago, Lonesome Rhodes said: Altering reality is well within the methodology of TPTB of this show. No question. However, they keep mentioning that she really is most sincerely dead. true they are treating Captain Chandler as if he was the savior of humanity for fighting off the immune's cult. Dr Scott would have to be a step above him. No way they can pull off some con and witness protection. That lie would be worse than losing Nathan James and the entire squdron Link to comment
Lonesome Rhodes July 28, 2016 Share July 28, 2016 One new and entirely legitimate plot point they have opened up is that the new guy will not see Chandler as the best military attache to have. Here comes a staff Chief which outranks him? If this happens, is it the end of direct operational contact with CiC? The new prez could also reduce Chandler below the CNO level, making him just an officer again, which would make all his adventures make much more sense. Send Slattery to the next available ship. Link to comment
Raja July 28, 2016 Author Share July 28, 2016 7 hours ago, Lonesome Rhodes said: One new and entirely legitimate plot point they have opened up is that the new guy will not see Chandler as the best military attache to have. Here comes a staff Chief which outranks him? If this happens, is it the end of direct operational contact with CiC? The new prez could also reduce Chandler below the CNO level, making him just an officer again, which would make all his adventures make much more sense. Send Slattery to the next available ship. Given the world universe the Army Chief of Staff or Chairman of the Joint Chiefs would be the primary adviser in rebuilding a nation as opposed to the Chief of Naval Operations whose fleet, which can't be much larger than a three destroyer Pacific squadron is going worldwide to show the flag on humanitarian missions. It is not tradition to make someone just an officer again, that's why an ex Chief of Staff General MacArthur went to the Philippines he couldn't just be an Army Corp commander again.. Link to comment
BasilSeal July 29, 2016 Share July 29, 2016 On 27/07/2016 at 3:43 AM, Raja said: true they are treating Captain Chandler as if he was the savior of humanity for fighting off the immune's cult. Dr Scott would have to be a step above him. No way they can pull off some con and witness protection. That lie would be worse than losing Nathan James and the entire squdron Agreed. Killing off Dr Scott was tacked on the end of the last episode like an afterthought. They only did it either because Rhona Mita didn't want to be in the third series so they had to come up with something to explain her absence, or because they suddenly decided they would make a third series and needed to make any new biological threat more severe because if Dr Scott was around we'd know she could solve it with one hand tied behind her back Link to comment
Maverick August 4, 2016 Share August 4, 2016 From the beginning o the season I've had a nagging suspicion that Dr. Scott isn't dead. But Dane is playing Chandler's grief so sincerely, even in private, that the only way that begins to work is if Michner ordered her declared and placed in hiding in the name of national security. I suppose Scott could have been injured so badly and fell into a coma to where she was effectively dead and that's why Chandler acts as if she truly is. Either way, Scott returing would be a very soap opera-y twist. Link to comment
JackONeill August 4, 2016 Share August 4, 2016 It's a little usprising that there's been nothing about her (or the actor who plays Tex) in the press. I (sadly) explain that by saying that there's not much care or concern for The Last Ship. Castle this isn't. Legions of fans don't love/hate these characters. But I can see that for the first few episodes of this season, Rachel would have had nothing to do with anything. I suspect she would hve been in St Louis when the NJ found the green mist. I do know Tex (the actor) is on Suits. But so far he's been in one episode, and it seemed his characte might never be seen again. So??????? Link to comment
Raja August 4, 2016 Author Share August 4, 2016 Tex is not Nathan James and he is not the Kirk or Spock of the ship and Wolf plays the same type of role of outsider gunfighter. The show itself doesn't seem to get much discussion. Afterbuzz TV dropped it, only a few fan podcast maybe the military themed message boards are discussing it? Link to comment
BasilSeal August 5, 2016 Share August 5, 2016 Tex wasn't military personnel, he was a private contractor at GITMO who came along on the NJ as someone with military experience as a former special forces soldier (or whatever he was). Once normality was sort of restored he'd return to being a civilian, and is presumably doing something, probably something important to do with reconstruction, in the US. I've said before that i thought perhaps the actors playing Tex and Dr Scott simply didn't want to be in the third series, or had other commitments given that series two appeared to be the end of the show, but as said above, if that were the case you'd expect there to have been some mention of it in the media. The comic con trailer has some pretty big spoilers about this subject, so don't watch it if you want a surprise. On 8/4/2016 at 3:12 AM, Maverick said: From the beginning o the season I've had a nagging suspicion that Dr. Scott isn't dead. But Dane is playing Chandler's grief so sincerely, even in private, that the only way that begins to work is if Michner ordered her declared and placed in hiding in the name of national security. I suppose Scott could have been injured so badly and fell into a coma to where she was effectively dead and that's why Chandler acts as if she truly is. Either way, Scott returing would be a very soap opera-y twist. totally agree with this, i thought initially that she'd not be dead, but if she is alive then even chandler isn't in on the secret as his grief appears to be genuine. Link to comment
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