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S05.E03: Love Can't Weight: Tiffany and Cain

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from Chris Powell's Instagram: Get ready to both laugh and cry as Cain and Tiffany commit to lose the weight before committing to spend the rest of their lives together. Wait til you see Cain's reaction when he sees the new Tiffany for the first time in 3 months - as she's walking down the aisle to marry him!! You won't believe what these two look like now!!

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DietCokeJunkie

DietCokeJunkie

A few random thoughts:

 

Sorry, but I'm skeptical that Cain went from not being able to buy Tiffani an engagement ring because he blew all his money gambling to *poof* Chris Powell shows up and the problem is gone.  And look we're going to prove it by going to Vegas for his bachelor party!  

 

Why would you name a child after the first murderer in recorded history? (Cain killed Abel).

 

I thought for sure they were going to weigh this couple in the day after the wedding, when they would present them with a fabulous honeymoon, not make them get on the scale at their freakin' wedding reception.  What's the point of having David Tutera plan your wedding when the decor consists of 20-foot-tall pictures of the bride and groom at their heaviest and a gigantic scale center stage?

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Brooklynista

Brooklynista

I really want to punch Heidi in the throat and I hate that her role in the show has been elevated.

All her bitch ing about Tiffany running ahead of Cain and not supporting him. So if I run a 10 min mile and my husband runs a 15, I must slow my pace to his or I'm a bad wife? STFU Heidi.

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Jadzia

Jadzia

It was refreshing that for once, someone on this show didn't *need* skin removal surgery. I nearly fell over when Chris said that the woman's skin went back nicely. The way this show presents it, every single person who ever loses weight is going to have to go under the knife.

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Shibori

Shibori

I thought this episode was horribly depressing. I've struggled with weight my whole life, lost more than 100 lbs 15 years ago, gained it back, and struggled to lose it again since then. When I think about how many holidays, events, and accomplishments I spent distracted by my diet du jour, it's brutal. So I personally couldn't imagine having the focus of my *wedding* being my weight. Literally, with giant banners of fat me all around. In fact, I'm kind of having a panic attack just thinking about it. Even if I had just lost that much weight, I'm just horrified about making it so much of such an important day. I also kind of feel like it makes an unhealthy connection between weight and marriage. If they gain some weight back, does that mean the marriage is a failure?

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ramble

ramble

What fresh hell is this mixing a wedding & weight loss into a competition? I didn't enjoy this episode much at all. If doofus truly had a gambling addiction he needs counseling & suport not a bachelor party in Vegas to prove he's all better. It sounded like generational gambling issues from the way he talked. That's a pretty heavy thing to hand wave. I thought the soccer lady might change her mind for awhile. I guess I just didn't get them. (They made so little of an impression that I can't even recall their names & I just watched.) Also, does anyone know if they are shifting everyone to a six month time frame now?

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Litnit

Litnit

Yeah, I couldn't believe somebody would name their kid Cain.

 

I screamed at the screen so many times during the bachelor party.  Sending someone with 100 days of white knuckle sobriety (I'm assuming because I didn't see any counselling that he was doing this white knuckle style) to Vegas is dumb as hell.  It would be like taking an alcoholic on a winery tour.  

 

They kept saying how charming these people were.  I thought immature would be a better word.  I agree, though, that you can't throw Tiffany under the bus for not letting Cain hold her back on the run.  People are allowed to have individual successes within a marriage you little twig figure Heidi (she is tiny!!).

 

I've only watched the show a couple of times, but are they always this sparse on the details of how people lose the weight?  One pound / day every day for 90 days seems like a lot of weight to lose.  Do they work on long term solutions to what are obviously long term problems?  If these two are toxic together, and gained a bunch of weight together, then how is that dynamic going to change once they are back together?  Ergh....reality TV I can't quit you.

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Brooklynista

Brooklynista

When are they going to provide these poor women with proper sports bras?  It's painful to watch their tatas bouncing up and down!

Most likely it won't happen until one of the ladies knock themselves unconscious.

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editorgrrl

editorgrrl

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From Chris Powell's Instagram: Get ready to both laugh and cry as Cain and Tiffany commit to lose the weight before committing to spend the rest of their lives together. Wait til you see Cain's reaction when he sees the new Tiffany for the first time in 3 months - as she's walking down the aisle to marry him!! You won't believe what these two look like now!!

Why is it all about what they look like?! Those two have some serious problems, and the focus on "earning" treats (the ring, the video messages) makes me wonder if they'll backslide once the publicity ends.

If Cain got any help whatsoever for his gambling addiction, we didn't see it. Did Tiffany and Cain learn anything about nutrition and portion control (other than that awkward cameo by Rocco DiSpirito)?

I laughed every time Tiffany (who has ulcerative colitis) talked about shitting her pants. But quoting Justin Bieber in your wedding vows?!

ETA: They've already set up a GoDaddy website to promote themselves as personal coaches & to sell merchandise: http://myersmovement.com/t/stuff

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ari333

ari333

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I cannot stand that Heidi stick; and the stupid things she says make me stabby.


Can this show not hire a real psychologist, so Heidi can keep her platitudes and philosophies to herself? And she needs to back off the tooth whitener before she looks like Ross from Friends that time.. I should get a screen shot hee


As far as the name "Cain" - maybe the parents are not religious or maybe it's a family name like the mom's maiden name or something IDK.

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Morgalisa

Morgalisa

They may have just lost me as a viewer.  Weddings and destinations usually spell "jump the shark" for me.  If they're going to feature couples, I would rather they be married already.  But losing weight to get married, just no.  IF he didn't get any help, the first time there is a problem he will be running to the casino.  Doesn't he work at a casino?

 

They used to have 12 months, the last episode they were done in 9 months, and now it's six months??

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backformore

backformore

Also, the "W" in plus sizes stands for womens, not wide, dumbass. God, I wanted to smack her when she said that.

RIGHT!    "W"  only means wide when it comes to shoe sizes.  Dress sizes, for some reason, put a W on sizes after  18.  

there is no size 22 that is NOT a 22 W.  

 

Like everyone else, I hated this.   Too many women focus on how they are going to LOOK at their wedding.   Yes, it's important.  But the decision to get married is a much bigger decision than just weight, dress size, hair, makeup.  

 

The combination of celebrating a marriage and celebrating weight loss just seemed wrong.  Losing weight to "earn" a wedding didn't seem right.  AAnd showing FAT pictures of the bride and groom at the wedding is wrong in so many ways, I can't even begin. 

I hated this whole thing.

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Shibori

Shibori

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Ooh, backformore I actually know the reason! (not trying to be snippy, I'm just excited because I like random stuff like this!). There is a difference between a 22 and a 22W. Every brand uses their own sizing, based on their fit model. For designer brands, that might be an actual person's measurements, but for mass market clothes, it's more likely a specific set of measurements rather than a specific person. But there's no standard sizing in the U.S., so it can be very different from brand to brand, or even season to season in the same brand. Designs are developed for one size, usually in the middle of the range (typically an 8, 10, or 12 for Misses, or 7 or 11 for Juniors) that represent that brand's fit. Once they're satisfied with the fit of the garment in that size, they grade the patterns up or down to get the other sizes-they don't actually re-fit it on someone in each size. Misses sizes have even numbers and Juniors sizes use odd numbers. (Juniors sizes are cut for younger bodies/fit.)

Plus sizes (with the "W") are actually patterned on a plus size fit model (typically a size 20W) and graded up and down for the other sizes. For any line, if the grading isn't done well, the sizes furthest away from the original fit size are more likely to have odd proportions. So a size 20, like at Gap or Old Navy, is a scaled up from a 10 (or whatever size they use). A 20W, wouldn't be the same thing, because it was patterned on a plus sized body and maybe scaled down from a 22W, not just scaled up from a misses' size. You really see the difference where sizes overlap. A 14 and a 14W fit very differently. (Try a Merona XXL (20) in the Misses at Target and a 2X (20W) in Plus- not the same.)

Bridal sizes run really small to begin with, so it's even more tricky there. The last time I was a bridesmaid, the shop wanted to order me an 18W based on my measurements. But I'm really small chested, and plus size tops that "fit" my measurements tend to be too big in the bust for me. I ordered a 20 (no "W", and it was cheaper!) and had some alterations done, but it was closer to the right fit than the "smaller" women's size. If you go to someplace like David's Bridal (whose site isn't working at the moment or I'd link to an example), there are some differences in fit and styling between the misses and plus sizes, even for the same dress style- they don't just keep scaling up for the larger sizes.

To bring it back to the episode- bridal shops don't stock every size to try on, so you may not get to see the dress you want in your actual size before ordering. But if you're in that abyss where misses and plus sizes overlap, it's important to try on a sample that's from the same size group. Don't just try on a misses sample and order a plus size- you may find yourself with a very different fit from what you expected!

But no matter what, it doesn't mean wide! :)

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WhineandCheez

WhineandCheez

Did Tiffany and Cain learn anything about nutrition and portion control (other than that awkward cameo by Rocco DiSpirito)

 

These 2 are doomed if they think they can continue to eat out 3 meals a day and keep the weight off.  You could tell they way Tiffany was anxious to find out if you can order broccoli without the butter-- they have no intention of cooking

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