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Season 17 Live Feed Discussion: Watch People Sleep All Day!


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Vanessa is losing her mind right now. It's awesome, poor Shelly is just laying in her bed probably wondering who the fuck she decided to align herself with. Of course, her main alliance is Clay, so she's clearly terrible at picking people.

I have never seen people parse who said what in what words in what room at what time in such insane detail before. It's just so silly, which makes it so entertaining for me to watch.

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Vanessa's game gonna get blown up so hard when Audrey is on the block. She should have just stayed out of the line of fire and let Shelli take the heat.

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He said he wanted to get Meg backdoored, which is weird, but I think it's so he can get closer to Jason, because he really trusts and wants to work with Jason, which is unfortunate since Jason really wants Steve out. 

Steve has made some dumb moves, but I don't think him wanting to get Meg out this week is weird.  Meg has made it clear that she loathes Steve, probably more then any other HG.  Steve has heard her bashing him before when she thought he couldn't hear.  If you eliminate Audrey because Steve wants to get her out himself to be the house hero, then out of the remaining HGs that could go on the block Meg is the person that would be most likely to target Steve.  And yeah, he mistakenly believes Jason would be more open to working with him if Meg were gone.  

 

The problem for Steve is he has a crappy social game and he has absolutely no chance of convincing Shelli to put her up, even though I think Shelli likes him (or at least tolerates him) more then most of the other HGs.

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I see people saying Vanessa is a great liar. I'm wondering what they're watching. To her credit though she has Shelli and Her Idiot (Lookalike) Brother misted.

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To her credit though she has Shelli and Her Idiot (Lookalike) Brother misted.

 

I don't think she has Shelli misted. Which really makes this move even dumber for Shelli. I'm torn because I sorta kinda like Shelli and I hate Vanessa, but I would love for Shelli to end up fucked over by Vanessa next week.

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I don't think she has Shelli misted. Which really makes this move even dumber for Shelli. I'm torn because I sorta kinda like Shelli and I hate Vanessa, but I would love for Shelli to end up fucked over by Vanessa next week.

I'm in the same boat. I don't think it's gonna happen next week but Shelli's demise in this game, if it ever happens, will absolutely be at the hands of Vanessa.

Audrey to Shelli - Vanessa is an amazing game player. She knows what she is doing in here. All of that was amazing.

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Clay came off great, he was far too patient than Audrey even deserved. He didn't buy her fakeness, her fake tears and her twisted ways of trying to turn herself into victim and act like she never said anything to anyone.

Shelli's going to be mad the other 2 jumped ship and left her there. LOL

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The thing with Audrey is, even though she's mostly telling the truth now, it's too late. The fact that she never stops, that she she was in peoples ears every minute and lying for the sake of lying is biting her in the behind now.

 

Vanessa puts truths in her lies so even when things get said she can focus on that truth and deflect the lie. Shelli and Clay have fallen for it. Austin has fallen for it. Vanessa is going to try and get rid of the people that see her game.

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Personally, I'm betting on Vanessa's demise being at the hands of Shelli. But I'd be fine either way, as long as Clay and Austin go before either of them.

 

This.

 

Shelli basically said that the reason she's gonna target Audrey is because it hurts Clay's feelings when Audrey makes jabs at him. LMAO! ETA: And yet now she's trying to act like she doesn't let Clay influence her decisions. You can't have it both ways, Shelli!

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The thing with Audrey is, even though she's mostly telling the truth now, it's too late. The fact that she never stops, that she she was in peoples ears every minute and lying for the sake of lying is biting her in the behind now.

Totally. I think Audrey's fatal flaw is she didn't realize how tight Vanessa was with Shelli and Clay. She had no reason to cast seeds of doubt this soon either. Why she exposed that F2 deal and called out Vanessa's loyalty to Steve either is beyond me. Sit on those to use at a later date...but she just can't not game.

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It's not like Audrey is alone in all that though. None of them keep anything to themselves. And Vanessa is just as much a liar/as crazy as Audrey. I just really want Vanessa to become the new Audrey to these people once Audrey is gone. That would be so hilarious.

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It's not like Audrey is alone in all that though. None of them keep anything to themselves. And Vanessa is just as much a liar/as crazy as Audrey. I just really want Vanessa to become the new Audrey to these people once Audrey is gone. That would be so hilarious.

I could see it happening. I also have a feeling Audrey is going to really hurt Vanessa's game after she's on the block. People already suspect the fight with Jeff was staged. Audrey was in on those conversations and people know that because she was in the HOH all week.

This is why they should've waited to boot her at the double eviction. Or let a random like Steve or Becky take her out.

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Yeah, huge mistake on Vanessa's part to make a final two deal with a nutter like Audrey. Shelli will absolutely choose Vanessa over Audrey, but she's not going to forget this. Oh, boy this week is going to be pretty awesome. Audrey will not go down without a fight, and Vanessa will give back as much crazy as she gets.

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Audrey - We dont have to talk about it again. I have been completely outplayed. She (Vanessa) is fucking great.

ETA Shelli leaves HOH

Audrey to herself - No fucking clue what to do now.

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Audrey's still in the HoH room, at first alone but then Shelli came back, and you can see that she's trying to think of a way to use this to her advantage or save herself. Is she warming up the engine in the bus for some defensive driving later tonight? I don't think she wants to go back to her death bed now that it's a dentist chair.

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Vanessa is now trying to work on Jackie by offering her an "olive branch". Vanessa wants to make a deal with whoever she uses Veto on that protects not only Vanessa but Jackie as well, so long as Jackie makes a deal not to target Vanessa for the Jeff situation. Jackie's whatever about it. This actually doesn't seem that smart for Vanessa's game. You know Jackie ain't gonna buy whatever she's selling.

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That fight was amazing. These fools have all lost their damn minds. I'm not a huge Vanessa fan but she certainly spun that all to her benefit. She gets the justification she "needs" to use the veto and there's no way Shelli doesn't put up Audrey now. Vanessa and Audrey are both so good at being insane liars who dig in their heels- it was fascinating to watch. And is Shelli finally getting a clue?? This just raises my hope that she and Clay dump their entire alliance and we get to see Austin and Vanessa follow Audrey out the door.

Even better- next week's HoH pits Shelli against Vanessa and we get to watch another week of utter insanity.

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Vanessa is now trying to work on Jackie by offering her an "olive branch". Vanessa wants to make a deal with whoever she uses Veto on that protects not only Vanessa but Jackie as well, so long as Jackie makes a deal not to target Vanessa for the Jeff situation. Jackie's whatever about it. This actually doesn't seem that smart for Vanessa's game. You know Jackie ain't gonna buy whatever she's selling.

 

Seriously everyone should go back and watch this. It is UCG! Jackie treated Vanessa like she was an absolute nobody it was just amazing. 

 

Even better- next week's HoH pits Shelli against Vanessa and we get to watch another week of utter insanity.

 

This needs to happen!

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Jackie declines Vanessa's offer? Lulz. It's crazy but I'm staring to like her. She has no reason to grovel. And Vanessa is stupid for even suggesting it.

Vanessa has POVitis.

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Jackie is kind of owning Vanessa right now in this conversation. Basically telling her that putting up the same people every week means they're not pawns, they're targets, otherwise different people would be nommed each week. Basically she's doing everything but straight up saying "I'm not stupid, I know there's an alliance"!

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Audrey is spilling ALL the tea right now to James. And will probably continue to to spill it to anyone who will listen. I don't think it will matter, I think everyone will be grateful to hear everything she has to say, and then will be very happy to boot her on Thursday. Good times!

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There's no chance she can flip the house and stay but she will plant enough seeds with people. She might even get a few votes by the end of the week.

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Audrey needs to use her mist to get Austin nominated. <3

 

ETA: Also, all she has to do is point out that there's a certain five people who have never been nominated. Hmm....wonder why?

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The Sixth Sense alliance just had a semi truck drove over it by Audrey. At least this week will be entertaining. At this point though, these people should have realized a week ago that something was up with that group.

 

ETA: Shelli and Clay know that Audrey talked to James. Shelli told Clay she wants to see what James does.

 

Also, when discussing if Vanessa made deals with other people in the house, they said they were ok with it. They expect Vanessa to play her game so it doesn't matter.

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Jeff, on the other hand, just charged in like the god he knew himself to be,

 

 

Spot on, Kris117.   His self-importance was so off-putting that it was almost heartbreaking to see the complete turnaround when he learned he was being back-doored.   His face and posture changed completely.  "Almost" heartbreaking.  I for one was fascinated...happily.  We got to see the real Jeff...extremely insecure.

Clay said that 'he' didn't put her up last week. Oh, was he HOH? Did I miss that? LOL.

 

He also said he sent Jeff home. He thinks he the fucking King of the house.

 

 

If viewers didn't see the actual HoH competition, they'd have to think he is.  I hope his entitled self can go far in life--he has the attitude of the cute kid with athletic talent.  It doesn't always pay off.

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Audrey telling James everything could've and really should've been good.  But then, he took the information to Meg, who didn't believe it, and then stupidly went to Clay, who shut it all down.

 

Audrey's not gonna give up, though.  She's already told Jackie, who did seem to believe her.  She needs to tell Jason, though, assuming he's the one still coming down from the block.

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Liz, Austin, Vanessa, Clay are 100% voting out Audrey, especially after her blowing up their spot. Becky has wanted her out for weeks, and I thought she had a low-key alliance with John. Jason and Meg's hatred of Audrey is going to override whatever she manages to convince them of.

Here's the thing with Audrey - she is totally the boy who cried wolf. No one has any reason to believe her, and even if they did believe her, they would be stupid to trust her. She could easily go right back to targeting any of them next week.

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How fucking stupid is Meg? I mean seriously. You have the same people nominated every week and have someone spell it out for you and you still don't believe it.

How these people didn't suspect it until now is mind boggling. Just based on how much time they all spend together in the HOH it's obvious that's an alliance. Then again Meg's ass is parked in bed for 20 hours a day.

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Liz, Austin, Vanessa, Clay are 100% voting out Audrey, especially after her blowing up their spot. Becky has wanted her out for weeks, and I thought she had a low-key alliance with John. Jason and Meg's hatred of Audrey is going to override whatever she manages to convince them of.

Here's the thing with Audrey - she is totally the boy who cried wolf. No one has any reason to believe her, and even if they did believe her, they would be stupid to trust her. She could easily go right back to targeting any of them next week.

Audrey is dunzo. There's no chance she can flip the vote. I just want her to get the target onto the power alliance.

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