Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[Notabug]

Just now, farmgal4 said:

Is Amy also implying that she would rather die than live the rest of her life on a vent?  That’s kind of the feeling I’m getting but I could be wrong.

I suspect she's mostly saying that God will give her a miracle and she doesn't need medical assistance to make it happen.  I expect she is still a full code and fully expects that the medical professionals will jump in and save her if she arrests.  And Jesus will fix everything.  Unless she and her husband have signed a Do Not Resuscitate order, she is just referring to this intubation in this particular setting.  Obviously, there is no way to do a bronchoscopy without putting a tube in her throat.

[farmgal4]

2 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

That is exactly it, there is almost all the time something going on. 

Jill is a Level 10 drama queen.  Even if there’s nothing is going on, Jill makes it seem like there is.

[mythoughtis]

Amy is a quadriplegic. I think she might have partial use of her arms?  She was told that she might not get off a ventilator after the procedure. All she really has is her eyes, ears, voice.      If she’s on a ventilator, she can’t speak to her kids.  If she’s even conscious.   I can understand her point.  

Edited Yest. at 12:07 AM by mythoughtis

[Notabug]

7 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

Amy is a quadriplegic. I think she might have partial use of her arms?  She was told that she might not get off a ventilator after the procedure.    If she’s on a ventilator, she can’t speak to her kids.  If she’s even conscious.   I can understand her point.  

If her lungs don't improve, she will still end up on a ventilator and perhaps unable to be weaned from it. That is if she doesn't suffer a respiratory arrest and die.  Refusing the bronchoscopy does not guarantee she will not need a ventilator anyway at some point, nor that she won't deteriorate to the point where she can't speak to her children.  I presume the doctors are looking at all possible options and trying to predict what option gives her the best chance of surviving this life threatening infection and, in their opinion, her best chance is with the bronchoscopy.  If she doesn't survive, speaking to her kids is beside the point.  Also, there are multiple options for people who are ventilator dependent to communicate with their loved ones.

Amy does have some limited use of her arms.

Edited Monday at 10:06 PM by Notabug

[oliviabenson]

at least they went to the hospital. I expected them to cure Amy with plexus and some magic essential oils. 

Amy and family must have told Jill to be quiet or she is told nothing! 

[ginger90]

Jill has replied at least twice to posts:

 

I am so thankful for a miracle working God!  😊  Praying.  We love your family!  ❤️

 

Praying lots.  🥰😊

[satrunrose]

Okay, so I over think emojis, but here I've been going back and forth on whether Jill is doing the compassionate thing by staying out of everyone's way or the selfish Jill thing by not going to offer support. Seeing those messages, which read like a response to something like being stuck at the airport for Christmas (frustrating and disappointing, but not life or death) has officially made my mind up. Jill is...something else...

 

Wonder what the three Christmas ghosts would show her if they paid her a visit tonight.

Edited 21 hours ago by satrunrose

[merylinkid]

19 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

I can understand her point.

I can too.   I would be afraid of going on a vent and then never coming off.   Vents damage the lungs and if you already have damaged lungs you might be afraid of doing more. 

Amy is presumably competent to make her own medical decisions.   The doctors have presumably explained all options to her.  If she is choosing to not have a procedure right now, that is her right.  We don't know for sure thet are just trusting god will perform a miracle.   I mean she is in a hospital so they trust medical science at least somewhat.   So let's just presume she is making her own free choice to not have a medical procedure for reasons unrelated to her religious beliefs.

[Salacious Kitty]

I don't think they can separate their religious beliefs from any important decisions they make. 

Eta: Kevin's latest post said that God gave Amy the strength to do a new treatment, and her most recent x-ray showed improvement. So yeah, God is all over her recovery. 

Edited 15 hours ago by Salacious Kitty

[Minivanessa]

Today's update on Jill's sister, from the Praying for Amy Foster FB page. It's good that there are signs of improvement, but I assume she's still in serious condition.

 

[Salacious Kitty]

There's been no indication that she's been moved from the ICU. 

[Minivanessa]

5 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

There's been no indication that she's been moved from the ICU. 

Correct. 

[oliviabenson]

her kids are just anxious and sad and probably crying and are worried sick about Mom Amy. I wish her a speedy recovery.

[ginger90]

Jill’s reply on the most recent post:

“My heart feels so much cheerier hearing this news!  Will continue to pray!  🥰😊”

 

Isn’t that great! 🤦‍♀️

[satrunrose]

So, to be clear, the same woman who wept for days over internet meanies saying she shouldn't be spreading her son's (lack of) sex life all over Hell and creation is reacting to her sister spending Christmas in the ICU and being at risk of going going on a ventilator by having a less "cheery" heart. Sweet Baby Jesus indeed. 

[oliviabenson]

Jill says you can lots of these for pain and inflammation. it's as good as Tylenol/Advil...

yikes.

[Absolom]

For the turmeric alone the potential side effects for taking too much are enough to keep me away from indiscriminate use.

[Salacious Kitty]

Yeah, she says you can basically pop these like candy. WTAF???

[Salacious Kitty]

Jill threw a party for the Amish neighbors. At least she didn't show them for once. But this is weird. Is she surprised that they have heavy outerwear? 

[andromeda331]

Amy's improving? I hope she continues to.