PinkRibbons January 23, 2015 Share January 23, 2015 NOTE: Reign airs on Wednesdays in Canada, meaning that the episodes are very often viewed a day before they have aired in the US. Therefore please be aware that this thread will almost definitely have spoilers for those who wish to wait until Thursday night to view the new episode. Quote Greer tells Mary the truth about some rumors, leading Mary to take surprising action. Meanwhile, the rivalry between Francis and Condé intensifies; Diane has a showdown with Catherine; and Claude tries to uncover who's responsible for the twins' deaths. American Promo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGVSQwZ6vJk Canadian Promo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq9U7V8LFuM Link to comment
PinkRibbons January 29, 2015 Author Share January 29, 2015 What the heck did I just watch? I gotta say that I agree, but I mean myself it in a gleefully shocked way. I found that tremendously entertaining. This show has a special charm for me when it lets loose and goes full-on crazy. 2 Link to comment
brisbydog January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 I just felt assaulted by all the plot movement. So much happened in 40 minutes this week. Glad to briefly see Narcisse. Megan Follows is MBA as usual. Link to comment
Advance35 January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Sigh. I'm sorry but isn't it time for the story to move past Francis yet. The actor, the character, I just find him SO uncharming in every way. It pays to be one of Mary's Handmaidens because they get the best guys. Bash and Conde, while poor Mary is saddled with Manbaby Francis. Catherine is glorious as always. Was shocked by the choking scene, very Game of Thrones. 2 Link to comment
Rhetorica January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 I had to catch up on demand. This is the first episode I've seen live this year. Wow...Full throttle! I'm glad Catherine is back and the ghosts of family past are gone. Was that a different actress playing Diane? She looked younger. 1 Link to comment
methodwriter85 January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 (edited) I kind of love that this show is willing to be bat-shit crazy and take some SERIOUS liberties. LOL. Why do I get the feeling this isn't going to be the last we see of Henry the Ghost? He doesn't seem to just exist in Catherine's imagination the way the kids did. Edited January 30, 2015 by methodwriter85 1 Link to comment
HunterHunted January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 I had to catch up on demand. This is the first episode I've seen live this year. Wow...Full throttle! I'm glad Catherine is back and the ghosts of family past are gone. Was that a different actress playing Diane? She looked younger. I loved it because it was a Catherine tour de force: crazy, mourning, and vengeful. Luv her! 2 Link to comment
dirtypop90 January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Crazy episode Bash and Conde were such tools this episode. Every time conde spoke I literally yelled STFU and Bash was ridiculous with Kenna considering he was fighting his brother for her queen and friend at the time. A bit weirded out by them just casually throwing in another rape plot with Henry and the nanny. Good to see Diane. Bad they brought her back just to pin the twins death on her and kill her. But oh well I like Claude so I'm glad she didn't kill her little sisters. 1 Link to comment
missbonnie January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 What the heck did I just watch? A show that was off the rails do a great job of getting back on track. I loved every single minute of it. Link to comment
Jess January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 (edited) Megan Follows killed it tonight (both literally and figuratively). Bash needs to chill out, not sure why he's mad at Kenna. When she told Catherine about Diane's plot, she had no connection to Bash. It's not like she betrayed him while they were married. At the same time, this is The CW, so there needs to be some drama in these relationships. I'd rather something like this than another love triangle. So wait, is the actress who plays Greer (Celina Sinden) really leaving the show? I figured they moved Leith to series regular, so that their romance could play out on the screen. If so, I'm disappointed. I really liked Greer. Edited January 30, 2015 by Jess Link to comment
ulkis January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Crazy episode Bash and Conde were such tools this episode. Every time conde spoke I literally yelled STFU and Bash was ridiculous with Kenna considering he was fighting his brother for her queen and friend at the time. A bit weirded out by them just casually throwing in another rape plot with Henry and the nanny. Good to see Diane. Bad they brought her back just to pin the twins death on her and kill her. But oh well I like Claude so I'm glad she didn't kill her little sisters. Aw, what, really? I don't mind the inaccuracy - if I was still expecting that at this point, I'd pretty much be as crazy as Henry - but I was kinda looking forward to Catherine ordering her to leave when Francis died (although I know that actually happened when Henry died but whatever). Well, if he dies, given this show. Oh well, I'll settle for her imperiously ordering Bash away. Link to comment
PinkRibbons January 30, 2015 Author Share January 30, 2015 I've been thinking about Greer and what her options are. From the beginning we knew Castleroy was a businessman with international connections -- didn't Greer even mention a relationship to the Habsburgs? Unless he's been unable to escape or has been very very stupid, he's doubtlessly in another country right now. He's lost everything in France, yes, but again, unless he's very stupid he has assets in other countries. How has he been funding his own lifestyle in hiding? So Greer needs to get to Castleroy. Failing that, she needs to get back to Scotland, where her family is and the government is Protestant. I was disappointed that Mary wasn't shown slipping Greer a bag of gold before she was taken away. Maybe Mary, Lola or Kenna bribed the driver taking her away to slip her some money or at least take her somewhere she can work from. Otherwise what, they'll just dump her in the countryside in her party dress? So yeah, Greer needs money first and foremost. I'd think Castleroy would try as hard as he could to get her out of the country and to him, but if he can't and Greer really is alone and penniless, my guess is that before long we're going to see Leith walk in some place where Greer is working as a kitchen maid. I was also thinking about Conde...I loved Lola telling him that his romanticized image of himself as being the gallant prince is actually jackassery. And he's done it before, putting his lovers before anyone else. Speaking of which, I wonder if he would be at all attracted to Mary if she wasn't married? Seems he has a very specific type. Link to comment
Sally January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 My theory about Greer is that she is going to be in role reversal with Leith. He was a penniless non titled entity, and now she will be. Maybe she'll get a job as his kitchenmaid. 1 Link to comment
tapplum January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 My theory about Greer is that she is going to be in role reversal with Leith. He was a penniless non titled entity, and now she will be. Maybe she'll get a job as his kitchenmaid. Perish the thought! It's so horrifying, I've no doubt you're right. And since Leith has been the biggest Nice Guy Douche on the show to date, I can only imagine how squicky the storyline would play out, ugh. Link to comment
scarletregina January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 What the heck did I just watch? Catherine being the awesome High Bitch In Charge. 4 Link to comment
ulkis January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 random shallow observation: Conde is so blah. He's consistent with the good-looking, but not particularly hot or charismatic men this show appears to like to cast. I bet Terrance was happy with that Basherine moment, heh. Blah the Diane actress is awful. Glad she's gone but I wish they had cast/used the role better. I still really like Bash and Kenna. I liked the beginning of the episode because if it was another show on the CW they would have broken up over Bash's admission that he's pretty much Francis' personal assassin - here, they're stuck with each other. the legitimization 'secret' was such a lame one though. "How perfect! He did it all for Henry too!" Heeee. Link to comment
Eolivet February 1, 2015 Share February 1, 2015 This is the show that I've been missing since late season 1 -- women calling out the inequalities of their position. Even if they can ultimately do nothing about it, the fact that it's even mentioned always feels like progress. Greer signing over her townhouse, Kenna's protestations that she did what she did to protect herself (and that Bash had no idea what it was like to be a woman) and Mary rightfully calling out Francis' "you can't bang other dudes because: stability of nations" as a way to keep her under control. Even if she ultimately agreed he was right for political reasons, at least she brought up the fact that a king can do whatever he wants and whoever he wants, and a queen could be executed for infidelity. I even enjoyed Lola's world-weary courtship with Conde. And the fact that Catherine woke up to see the light about Henry, and then killed Diane, who killed innocent children for her man, was just icing on the cake. What a rotten person she was. I did find it funny that Megan Follows clearly connected more with the orange-dress twin than the green-dress twin. She kept touching the orange-dress twin (with her plaintive, sad eyes) and practically ignoring the green-dress twin. Maybe green-dress twin becomes Jan Brady in the afterlife. 2 Link to comment
PinkRibbons February 2, 2015 Author Share February 2, 2015 Mary rightfully calling out Francis' "you can't bang other dudes because: stability of nations" as a way to keep her under control. Even if she ultimately agreed he was right for political reasons, at least she brought up the fact that a king can do whatever he wants and whoever he wants, and a queen could be executed for infidelity. Actually what I liked about that scene was Francis calling out the unfairness of the system in itself, even bringing up his mother's near-miss with execution for adultery (which, *ahem*, Mary had quite a bit of involvement with). He wasn't trying to justify it; he was just saying what needed to be said. The fight with Conde was so obviously about Mary that it was clear that she did need to create some distance, and someone needed to point it out to her. I thought that Francis put it as kindly and tactfully as he could. Yes, there was some jealousy at play there, but it didn't change the basic facts. And I think it helps that at no point did Francis act as though he intended to cheat on Mary or that he ever planned to take advantage of his supposed right to. Not to mention that he didn't outright accuse Mary of intentionally cheating/planning to cheat, nor did he bring up having seen her grab Conde. Link to comment
dirtypop90 February 2, 2015 Share February 2, 2015 (edited) Actually what I liked about that scene was Francis calling out the unfairness of the system in itself, even bringing up his mother's near-miss with execution for adultery (which, *ahem*, Mary had quite a bit of involvement with). He wasn't trying to justify it; he was just saying what needed to be said. The fight with Conde was so obviously about Mary that it was clear that she did need to create some distance, and someone needed to point it out to her. I thought that Francis put it as kindly and tactfully as he could. Yes, there was some jealousy at play there, but it didn't change the basic facts. And I think it helps that at no point did Francis act as though he intended to cheat on Mary or that he ever planned to take advantage of his supposed right to. Not to mention that he didn't outright accuse Mary of intentionally cheating/planning to cheat, nor did he bring up having seen her grab Conde. I think Francis has been very patient with the mary/conde situation. Henry would've killed Conde by now. Conde's been attached to Mary's hip since his arrival, and continues to disrespect Francis as King. Francis only finally said something because Conde literally challenged him to a fight in front of the entire court. Conde is way out of line and I don't know why Francis even needed to point that out to Mary. She should have determined something needed to be done about Conde. He's been increasingly hostile towards Francis and her marriage. She's not the naive girl she was before who kissed Bash in broad daylight, so I'm a bit surprised she let this Conde situation get so out of hand knowing what's at stake. Because, despite her words, I do think she has been leading Conde on with her actions, and something tells me Conde isn't going to bow out gracefully like Bash whenever she finally puts her foot down (and we know that day is coming) Edited February 2, 2015 by dirtypop90 1 Link to comment
Gwen-Stacys February 2, 2015 Share February 2, 2015 Francis could probably have pushed for an annulment for now and got it. It's sort of sad that his misgivings in early s1 against the union have come to past. Scotland hasn't been an asset, but a liability to France. His falling in love with his wife has compromised his first duty to his country. And his wife's impulsive, headstrong decisions - killing Narcisse's son, attempting to kill Henri, gallivanting with Conde - have hurt his rule. Francis would have to appeal to the church for that, and the catholics see Mary as their one token to overtaking England again. So I doubt they'd let him do that....(unless I'm remembering season1 wrong.) Mary's power coin was never her country, but her legitimate claim to the English throne. Should the Catholics overtake the English, they'd need her (or her heirs) regardless of how long she's been sitting on that card. Her claim ain't a coupon. It doesn't expire or lose value. 1 Link to comment
dirtypop90 February 2, 2015 Share February 2, 2015 (edited) Francis would have to appeal to the church for that, and the catholics see Mary as their one token to overtaking England again. So I doubt they'd let him do that....(unless I'm remembering season1 wrong.) Mary's power coin was never her country, but her legitimate claim to the English throne. Should the Catholics overtake the English, they'd need her (or her heirs) regardless of how long she's been sitting on that card. Her claim ain't a coupon. It doesn't expire or lose value. Yea but if mary is suspected of having an affair with a Protestant leader and supporting Protestantism, the Church would no longer see her as a token. That's my biggest issue with this "affair" with Conde, most of Mary's support is due to the fact that she's a Catholic Queen married to a Catholic King. Her relationship with Conde calls into question her loyalty to the Church, and if rumors of them spread, would result in a loss of support. Edited February 2, 2015 by dirtypop90 1 Link to comment
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