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The View: Week of 5/19/2025


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Monday, May 19 – Maia Kealoha (actor, “Lilo & Stitch”)

Tuesday, May 20 – Angela Bassett (actor, “Mission: Impossible – The Final Reckoning”); Dawn Staley (coach, University of South Carolina women’s basketball and author, “Uncommon Favor”)

Wednesday, May 21 – Jessica Biel (actor, “The Better Sister”)

Thursday, May 22 – Hugh Jackman (Radio City Music Hall residency, “Hugh Jackman Live – From New York With Love”; theater company, “TOGETHER”); Brian Kelly (author, “How to Win at Travel”)

Friday, May 23 (ENCORE BROADCAST – OAD: 5/2/25) – Kerry Washington and Omar Sy (actors, “Shadow Force”); Sarah Kate Ellis (GLAAD president and CEO)

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Ok, why are we still talking about the cognitive decline of someone who is not in office?  Why aren’t the media talking about the decline of the current occupant of the Oval Office? (Thank you for saying the same, Joy!) If Tapper didn’t learn this until after the election (so at least 6 months after Biden withdrew) then what’s the point of the book? Like I said last week, so what? Who cares?

It annoys me they are still talking about this.

This whole show is annoying today. So much so what who cares?

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It took Anna about 0.5 seconds to make it about her & who she knows on Monday rather than Biden, at least Sunny is married to an actual doctor, Alyssa wasn't far behind Anna either.

Talking of Alyssa I watched her on CNN over the weekend & it was like watching a different person talking. She was much more measured in her criticisms of both sides rather than just toeing the tangerine tyrant's line like she does on the View.

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2 hours ago, Haleth said:

Ok, why are we still talking about the cognitive decline of someone who is not in office?  Why aren’t the media talking about the decline of the current occupant of the Oval Office? (Thank you for saying the same, Joy!) If Tapper didn’t learn this until after the election (so at least 6 months after Biden withdrew) then what’s the point of the book? Like I said last week, so what? Who cares?

It annoys me they are still talking about this.

This whole show is annoying today. So much so what who cares?

It's not about the cognitive decline.  

I'm a lefty, I've been liberal and woke for decades.  I voted for Kamala.  I detest Donald Trump.

I want to know how a President who promised to be a bridge President, implying he would serve one term, who was in some kind of cognitive decline, could think of running for another term, and not one advisor, family member or political colleague could say "maybe we should think about this".

I want to know how Jen O'Malley Dillon and her campaign thought it was a good idea for Biden to debate in the first place. What were they thinking?

Post-debate all the surrogates were out: Pete, Kamala, Elizabeth Warren.  All swearing Biden was at the top of his game.  They sure didn't inspire confidence.  We saw what we saw.

Again, it's not about the cognitive decline, it's about the environment surrounding a sitting President the yessed him at every turn, and deprived the Democratic Party of a primary that may have chose a candidate who could distance themselves from the Biden presidency.

The Democratic Party has a lot of soul searching to do.

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46 minutes ago, sugarbaker design said:

The Democratic Party has a lot of soul searching to do

And if they waste time with a lot of handwringing over something that is irrelevant now instead of looking forward they will continue to lose. They need new energy, fresh faces. Ignore the noise. (They need to find another Obama.)

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10 minutes ago, Haleth said:

And if they waste time with a lot of handwringing over something that is irrelevant now instead of looking forward they will continue to lose. 

It's only been 100+ days, there's plenty of time for handwringing and soul searching.

 

12 minutes ago, Haleth said:

They need new energy, fresh faces. Ignore the noise. 

Agreed!

11 minutes ago, Haleth said:

(They need to find another Obama.)

Good luck!

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59 minutes ago, Haleth said:

And if they waste time with a lot of handwringing over something that is irrelevant now instead of looking forward they will continue to lose. They need new energy, fresh faces. Ignore the noise. (They need to find another Obama.)

I think that they need to do several things: 

Examine what happened with Biden with the goal of changing / improving whatever processes, policies, strategies led to this failure. In my former career, this used to be called the "post-mortem" part of the development cycle. Not always comfortable, but things that are highlighted as errors or misjudgments can be addressed for future success.

Using the data from the "post-mortem" as well as any "lessons learned", the party should develop a more cohesive and stable platform and recruit new potential candidates. Looking forward is the right thing to do, but if you don't know what went wrong before, you might end up making the same mistakes.

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The thing you don't do is make a promise & then do the exact opposite of what you said. People generally do not like that & it's something that Trump in particular has somehow managed to get away with and hate him or loathe him his supporters stick with him through every lie every day. It's the cult of personality & the first thing you need is an actual personality & no matter how odious DJTs personality is to most it's way better than no personality which is what JB has, Joe B will only be remembered for the one thing, and that's going back on his word. 

Obama had/has it, Trump has it as did a certain Adolf guy & only 1 of those 3 has used it for good rather than evil.

2 hours ago, Haleth said:

And if they waste time with a lot of handwringing over something that is irrelevant now instead of looking forward they will continue to lose. They need new energy, fresh faces. Ignore the noise. (They need to find another Obama.)

Yeah, I think the only people who want Democrats to keep thinking about a politician who is no longer in politics now are people who want Democrats to continue losing. People like Alyssa who continue to twist the truth just so they have an excuse to criticize anyone but Trump, like how she said Biden didn't drop out this morning? Come again? I find it ironic that the same people (Sara and Alyssa) who whined and moaned every day until Biden finally did drop out are now the same people whining and moaning the loudest when Democrats inevitably failed because he did what they wanted. I think they have the least to add to the conversation, considering how things worked out by going their direction.

Anyway, everybody knows in politics that looking backward is never a recipe to success, only failure. 

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5 hours ago, sugarbaker design said:

 ...and deprived the Democratic Party of a primary that may have chose a candidate who could distance themselves from the Biden presidency.

I don't really disagree with anything sugarbaker design said here, although at the time I was letting my hopes get away with me. But the imperative to find a candidate who could distance themselves from Biden's record isn't what I would have wanted then or now. Biden's presidency was admirable. He worked hard on the issues liberals care about. What he didn't have was the PR to tout his accomplishments. A candidate who came through a primary could run on building on Biden's record as well as hitting on issues that Trump was lying about.

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31 minutes ago, Sue in her 60s said:

I don't really disagree with anything sugarbaker design said here, although at the time I was letting my hopes get away with me. But the imperative to find a candidate who could distance themselves from Biden's record isn't what I would have wanted then or now. Biden's presidency was admirable. He worked hard on the issues liberals care about. What he didn't have was the PR to tout his accomplishments. A candidate who came through a primary could run on building on Biden's record as well as hitting on issues that Trump was lying about.

yes, that's one thing that Democrats are really bad at - proudly talking of accomplishments

and also, refuting the lies of the other side

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On 5/22/2025 at 9:27 AM, 2JEWELL said:

That all depends on who’s doing the remembering…I think history will treat him as a President who saved the American economy . 

I think history will remember him well but the electorate will not, but maybe it's just me that loses a lot of respect for people who go back on their word. 

The present idiot in chief will be remembered for being one of if not the worst president ever. Let's just hope it's not for being the last democratically elected president in the U.S.A. & first dictator.

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On 5/20/2025 at 3:55 PM, Shrek said:

The thing you don't do is make a promise & then do the exact opposite of what you said. People generally do not like that & it's something that Trump in particular has somehow managed to get away with and hate him or loathe him his supporters stick with him through every lie every day. It's the cult of personality & the first thing you need is an actual personality & no matter how odious DJTs personality is to most it's way better than no personality which is what JB has, Joe B will only be remembered for the one thing, and that's going back on his word

Obama had/has it, Trump has it as did a certain Adolf guy & only 1 of those 3 has used it for good rather than evil.

i have read that Biden never promised to not run for a second term, but said that he would likely not run unless there was nobody else he could endorse.

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1 hour ago, Shrek said:

I think history will remember him well but the electorate will not, but maybe it's just me that loses a lot of respect for people who go back on their word. 

The present idiot in chief will be remembered for being one of if not the worst president ever. Let's just hope it's not for being the last democratically elected president in the U.S.A. & first dictator.

Honestly, I doubt history will remember Biden at all.  He'll be one of those presidents that you just kinda know was a president, but nothing else about them.  Like Hayes, Arthur, McKinley, etc.  I know they were all presidents, but could not pick them out of a line up to save my life.  

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1 minute ago, shok said:

Only the Democrats are held to that standard. The Republicans manage to forget everything that Trump did wrong last week and they get away with it.

While that might be true for some, it's not necessarily true for others. I prefer to see people as individuals, and not some group herd. A few Reps I know are more moderate, and might even surprise you to know that they agree with some Dem policies.

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3 hours ago, shok said:

Only the Democrats are held to that standard. The Republicans manage to forget everything that Trump did wrong last week and they get away with it.

People have short memories. It’s my fear that things will kind of settle down and no one will remember the chaos and destruction of the first 100 days. DOGE? What was that? Many of the most egregious cuts in the just passed bill don’t go into effect until 2027, after the midterms, and the R propaganda machine will make sure they continue to hold both houses in 2026. With just 2 years left and no guardrails there’s no telling what trump will then do. 

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On 5/20/2025 at 7:48 PM, cinsays said:

yes, that's one thing that Democrats are really bad at - proudly talking of accomplishments

and also, refuting the lies of the other side

They're also really bad at not learning how to beat the bullies at their own game, i.e. how to use the opponents' tactics to their advantage. Also, the D's have to stop being so NICE!! Being diplomatic and nothing else in this arena equals being a doormat. I think people like AOC get this. Too bad the party at large does not. 

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6 hours ago, Prairie Rose said:

They're also really bad at not learning how to beat the bullies at their own game, i.e. how to use the opponents' tactics to their advantage. Also, the D's have to stop being so NICE!! Being diplomatic and nothing else in this arena equals being a doormat. I think people like AOC get this. Too bad the party at large does not. 

They think “strongly worded letters” will shame Trump et al.  🙄

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