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One thing that struck me that is so different from current cop shows is that so much of the "action" happens in the precinct station itself.  Yes, there is some catching of bad guys outside, and the c

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I may have told this story before (or maybe back on TWOP) but I have a good friend who is retired NYPD - he had been retired a handful of years when NYPD Blue aired.  He complained about some of the a

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The dialogue was definitely not very naturalistic, although the police slang used was quite realistic, if occasionally a little dated. Why? Mostly because that it is David Milch's style. He has a very

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I loved Jill, but I always thought the way they wrote her out did a disservice to the character.  While I definitely believe she would have done anything to protect her boys, I never bought that she would let things go as far as they did with Don without asking for help from Diane and the gang.

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12 minutes ago, TaraS1 said:

I loved Jill, but I always thought the way they wrote her out did a disservice to the character.  While I definitely believe she would have done anything to protect her boys, I never bought that she would let things go as far as they did with Don without asking for help from Diane and the gang.

Yep, the was pretty out of character.

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On 1/16/2021 at 1:43 PM, peacheslatour said:

I wish someone like METV or ION would pick them up. I really miss the show.

That'd be a great idea as I have at least one of those channels - ION.

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tvmom

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On 1/15/2021 at 9:42 PM, One4Sorrow2TooBad said:

Noticed right after Christmas, H & I dropped NYPD Blue from the schedule, 😠

I wrote to the network to voice my objection, and this is the reply I received: 

Thank you for contacting Heroes & Icons. Thank you for your support of NYPD Blue.  Our contract expired for the series, and while the series was one of quality, the ratings were never as good as we needed them to be to support the substantial license fee that the producers and distributors required us to pay. Perhaps in the future we can bring it back to the Network. 

 

Thank you again for watching Heroes & Icons and for contacting us with your thoughts. 

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peacheslatour

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1 hour ago, tvmom said:

I wrote to the network to voice my objection, and this is the reply I received: 

Thank you for contacting Heroes & Icons. Thank you for your support of NYPD Blue.  Our contract expired for the series, and while the series was one of quality, the ratings were never as good as we needed them to be to support the substantial license fee that the producers and distributors required us to pay. Perhaps in the future we can bring it back to the Network. 

 

Thank you again for watching Heroes & Icons and for contacting us with your thoughts. 

Well, yeah when you show it zero dark thirty, you're not gonna have very many viewers.

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On 1/22/2021 at 5:22 PM, tvmom said:

I wrote to the network to voice my objection, and this is the reply I received: 

Thank you for contacting Heroes & Icons. Thank you for your support of NYPD Blue.  Our contract expired for the series, and while the series was one of quality, the ratings were never as good as we needed them to be to support the substantial license fee that the producers and distributors required us to pay. Perhaps in the future we can bring it back to the Network. 

 

Thank you again for watching Heroes & Icons and for contacting us with your thoughts. 

Maybe perhaps not showing it during the Graveyard shift might've helped with those ratings? IDK Didn't TNT used to re-air NYPD Blue in the mornings? 

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9 hours ago, One4Sorrow2TooBad said:

Did H & I  have NYPD Blue on in the afternoon instead the graveyard shift  a couple of years ago ? I actually like it on late at night though.

A few years ago they had two back to back episodes starting at 4:00 PT. I preferred that.

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On 1/27/2021 at 9:31 AM, peacheslatour said:

A few years ago they had two back to back episodes starting at 4:00 PT. I preferred that.

Well hopefully they decide to do program in the primetime again like before. 

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7 hours ago, Forever8 said:

Curious Question : What is everyone's favorite opening / intro of NYPD Blue? 

 

Mine are 1,3,9, and 10 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 2 to 6 for me because of Bobby ♥️ 

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3 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Ooh, that sounds good. I loved him on NYPD Blue and I would dearly love to see him again.

Yes I loved him on there too so yeah I think it’s gonna be a great series. I wish we got an air date for it, but at least we know what his character’s name is though. 

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1 hour ago, ESS said:

Yes I loved him on there too so yeah I think it’s gonna be a great series. I wish we got an air date for it, but at least we know what his character’s name is though. 

They haven't filmed the pilot yet.

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fishcakes

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I'm rewatching this now for the first time since it originally aired and am about halfway through season one. I know it's been 30 years (!), but it's amazing how much broadcast TV has declined since then. The writing and the acting here are so good, but mainly the fact that there's respect for the audience as adults who won't get the vapors if they're shown a non-sanitized, non- black and white, non- good vs. evil version of the criminal justice system. Or the occasional naked butt. I mean, I do recall that some ABC affiliates did get a little bunched up and refused to air the show in the beginning, but I think eventually they all ended up showing it.

I don't remember, but I think I might have missed the very last season or two, so I'm looking forward to seeing the whole series in its entirety.

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4 hours ago, fishcakes said:

I'm rewatching this now for the first time since it originally aired and am about halfway through season one. I know it's been 30 years (!), but it's amazing how much broadcast TV has declined since then. The writing and the acting here are so good, but mainly the fact that there's respect for the audience as adults who won't get the vapors if they're shown a non-sanitized, non- black and white, non- good vs. evil version of the criminal justice system. Or the occasional naked butt. I mean, I do recall that some ABC affiliates did get a little bunched up and refused to air the show in the beginning, but I think eventually they all ended up showing it.

I don't remember, but I think I might have missed the very last season or two, so I'm looking forward to seeing the whole series in its entirety.

Where are you watching?

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I'm about 4 or 5 episodes into Bobby Simone's arrival, and it's so funny to me that my reaction now is exactly the same as it was in 1994, which was, "welp, the show is ruined now." I adored Jimmy Smits as Sifuentes in LA Law (also when I saw the promos for East New York last fall, I tried a couple of episodes just because he was in it), but I really resisted him here. Eventually, I came to like Bobby a lot and I know I will again, but even knowing that now, I'm still having the same trouble adjusting to him as I did originally.

I don't think it's just him vs. Caruso though; season 2 has a different tone from season 1. Season 1 was so gritty and unsettling, and in 2 it's like they sanded off the hardest edges. Even the first few eps of season 2, when Caruso was still there had a softer feel to them.

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Andy finally told Sylvia the reason he'd been avoiding sex was because he was having trouble with his prostate and he hadn't said anything earlier because he didn't want to tell her his body was falling apart. She told him he had to tell her these things because they were going to grow old together, and I don't think my heart can take this.

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I just started season 4 and everyone is in a pretty good place. Well, not Abby, but I was never crazy about her, so I don't care. Bobby is back on the force and he and Diane are engaged, James and Gina just got married, Andy and Sylvia and Theo are all healthy and happy. Cohen and Kirkendall have paired up, which spares anyone else from being stuck with them (please let me not see any more sex scenes between these two though; it's worse than the murders). Something tragic will probably happen soon.

But everything is relatively lighthearted for now. I spent so much of season 2 and 3 in tears, so it was a lot of fun to see the episode where Andy is obsessing about the meaning of Pop! Goes the Weasel, even asking suspects about it. "Does the monkey kill the weasel?" lol

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Bobby is in the hospital and I feel like Joey Tribbiani wanting to put his copy of Little Women in the freezer because he got to the part where Beth is sick. I knew this was coming but didn't remember the timeline and was thinking it was a year or two later.

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This show came up in conversation recently; a friend who loved it at the time (and remembered that I liked a few of the characters but overall hated the show [I watched only because my roommates did]) emailed me to say she'd streamed it, and, wow, now she understands everything I hated about it - and Andy Sipowicz is everything that's wrong with American policing in one bigoted, violent package - but she had to keep going up through Bobby's death. 

So I decided to watch just that arc, and oh my.  That was so sad!  And so well acted.  I remembered that I liked Bobby and Diane, but I had forgotten how much I liked the friendship between Diane and Jill.  And I remembered the scene in the precinct when Andy breaks down to Sylvia, because it's one of the only times I didn't hate him.  When he said "I never thought I'd make another friend, and now he's dying" my tear ducts got going, and more when he responded to Sylvia saying they don't know Bobby's dying with "He told me in his eyes".

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Bastet

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8 minutes ago, One4Sorrow2TooBad said:

Andy is a work in progress, stick with the series , lots of trials and tribulations.  You'll end up loving the character. 

He's not the only thing I hate about it; it simply not my kind of show (most cop shows aren't, but this one is particularly offensive). 

I just really liked that arc with Bobby dying.  The conversation the doctor had with Diane, about how the procedures the specialist wanted to do were unlikely to do anything other than delay the inevitable, and cause suffering for Bobby in the meantime, was - unlike all the terrible examples of policing on weekly display - a great presentation of how to speak to a patient's family in a way that doesn't condescend or guilt, but gets them to see reality in the midst of a highly emotional state.  Any time I've seen that actor in something since, I remember that storyline.

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I just finished the whole series and ... wow. So, so good, and so much better than anything I've seen in ages. I thought I had originally missed only the last season or two, but it was actually the last four seasons. I must have seen a few episodes here and there because I remembered John Clark coming in and the storyline with Rodriguez's ex-wife, but I couldn't have been watching it consistently because Connie and Andy was completely new to me. They slow-walked that relationship and I didn't watch enough to pick up on it before. I loved that so much; I think I liked them together more than Andy and Sylvia. Also, I originally missed the episode where they found Danny's body and solved his murder (or sort of solved it; we know who, I'm still not clear on why).

Overall, I thought it was great, but I do feel like it went on maybe a couple of seasons too long; I would have wished for them to have wrapped up the series before Esai Morales left the show and we got stuck with Gibson and then Bale as the COs, and before Charlotte Ross left to just be an off-screen mention. The plus of letting it go on was Sipowicz's great character arc; it's really something to see the last scene where he's quietly working in the CO's office and contrast that with the first episode where he having sex with a prostitute and getting shot a half dozen times. His character growth was believable; he's still got his prejudices but less willing to let them control him, and he remains as prickly and overly sensitive as ever.

Oh, the other great thing about season 12: GHOST OF BOBBY. I started crying as soon as Andy saw him in the hospital bed.

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Possible the greatest cop drama of all time, all the other cop dramas out there now can't come close. That episode where they found Danny's remains hit so hard. I may be wrong ,but I think Danny got too close to finding the truth involving the organized crime family corruption?? Didn't Andy go into a bar or club trying to get answers about Danny who had been there the day before? Didn't Andy have to hold some gang member's head under a sink full of water a couple of times to get an answer or lead??

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I think that was Julian, the informant, who Andy threatened, as he was the one who helped bury Danny. I don't remember a sink; I think this happened in the interrogation room. Julian had been brought in on some other charge and he offered to trade info on a body, not knowing who it was, but Andy realized it was Danny and beat and threatened Julian. But I still don't get the why of it; they knew Danny was a cop and knew he knew they were mob because they had been testing him to see if he was corrupt. So I guess they found out he wasn't? I could watch again, but it seems like they left it murky.

13 hours ago, One4Sorrow2TooBad said:

That episode where they found Danny's remains hit so hard.

That was the first episode after 9-11, and it already had an especially somber feel to it. I remember reading that in the scene where they find Danny's body, when Andy walks away and looks across the river, he's looking at the spot where the twin towers stood. I don't know the geography of Manhattan so I don't know if that's accurate, but that's how I read that scene and so it feels especially tragic to me.

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It's been years (3-4?) since i saw that season, and yes, that Julian scene in the inter room with Andy was most likely the first episode of that season. The scene I referred to with the club or strip joint involved the sink and mob guy was possibly the last episode or the previous season? 

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