S16.E5: About Last Night

[byrd]

On 4/7/2025 at 4:41 PM, Marley said:

It makes me like Cynthia that she actually told Kenya at her event that she was wrong.

Absolutely,  and now people are mad at Cynthia, go figure ! 

[Iguessnot]

16 hours ago, Passing Strange said:

I can help! Yes, Brit apologized, wrote a note, and brought flowers. I think that was even genuine. What I meant was that she's not doing that now. She's gone from complete apologist to total victim. 

Sorry, I thought I was clear that I meant now. As soon as Brit could assume a different role, she did.

Thanks. I have no idea what Brit is doing now. Just focusing on the episode.

[Stats Queen]

4 hours ago, byrd said:

i have been watching Kenya over the years and this is typical bad behavior for her. This issue is , Kenya has been allowed to behave badly and the network never challenged her on it. Brit was wrong in her behavior as well, she had been coming fo Kenya all along, but Kenya response was calculated and over the top as usual. Kenya will always go to the extreme and that indicates to me , she has some serious mental issues that need to be addressed.Everything she has done through the years has lead to this very moment .  I often wonder if Kenya's mother follows her through the media and realizes how much she screwed up her daughters life. The wound is still open and even Brooklyn can't close it for Kenya. Because if Brooklyn could Kenya would have never done this.  There are no guardrails for Kenya when she's angry or somehow feels wronged in any situation, her goal is to go for the jugular and cut you to the white meat ! All of this is because she's still acting out and is very insecure . This may sound crazy but if you have to constantly say what a bad bitch you are, and sing your praises all of the time, as if no one can see it , then you are very insecure. Even now she's still on social media acting out and trying to defend her actions. Kenya needs help to try and crawl out of this hole she has dug for herself . She won't be able to do this alone. She has ruined her reputation in this industry and I hope the hair salon can survive. Unfortunately Kenya, you played yourself on this one. Anyone who would go to these lenghts and self sabotage your own event , is someone suffering from mental illness. Everyone of her friends flew out of the door as if she had the plague, they wanted none of this. As Porsha said, Kenya twirled right on down to hell. 

Everything are this is on point. I wish Kenya would read this. She is her own worst enemy.

[byrd]

22 hours ago, Passing Strange said:

There's a difference between Kenya's action and her reaction. Watching Kenya during the conversation about Kelli's violent ex, I remembered that there's violence in Kenya's past. It's possible that Brit's remarks triggered her. Whether Brit meant anything by what she said or not, if Kenya felt threatened, she felt threatened, end of story. Her emotions, her reaction, were valid. It's Kenya's actions that were reprehensible. She suffered the consequences of her actions, but I'm going to give her some grace for her reaction because of her mental health issues. She has since accepted responsibility for her actions and apologized to Brit.

Brit, on the other hand, gets nothing from me. She's taking no responsibility for her words and is behaving like a victim who has been vindicated. Regardless of what she intended, the statements themselves were repulsive, especially in our current climate, as Keywestclubkid pointed out. It would have been great for Bravo to send a message about that and fire her, too. But this is Bravo, where bad behavior is often rewarded with another season.

Right you are , that's why her reactions lead her to this place, she was never held accountable and allowed to behave badly for many years It's unfortunate and I pray she gets the help she needs.Just as Britt is not being held accountable right now for her remarks aganist Kenya.  Britt should have been suspended or fired as well. i just hope Kenya gets the help she needs even if it's another season if that's her desire. In my opinion, I just feel it's time to move on. 

Edited April 9 by byrd

[qtpye]

They keep Kenya because she knows how to generate buzz, but firing her and (my theory) bringing her back will allow them to negotiate less money for her salary because she is in desperate mode.

I have long ago stopped believing this show gave a fudge about any of the howives.

[RealHousewife]

Just now, Stats Queen said:

Everything are this is on point. I wish Kenya would read this. She is her own worst enemy.

I have empathy for Kenya's trauma. I know inside she's still that little girl who wants her mother. No child should ever experience that pain. But she did still grow up with a lot of love, right? Weren't her father and grandmother there and loving towards her? She's fortunate to have her daughter Brooklyn and is this gorgeous, successful woman. The fact she won Miss USA (2nd black woman to do so) itself is something. It's sad to see someone who has so much going for herself throw it all away. I hope she gets help. 

[Iguessnot]

14 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

I have empathy for Kenya's trauma. I know inside she's still that little girl who wants her mother. No child should ever experience that pain. But she did still grow up with a lot of love, right? Weren't her father and grandmother there and loving towards her? She's fortunate to have her daughter Brooklyn and is this gorgeous, successful woman. The fact she won Miss USA (2nd black woman to do so) itself is something. It's sad to see someone who has so much going for herself throw it all away. I hope she gets help. 

Kenya always had the support of her family. At this point, her crying about her mama is an excuse for her bad behavior and vindictiveness. 

[Marley]

Kenya is over 50 years old she can't cry about trauma at this point. Yes it is sad but it is not an excuse to be a bitch & mean to ppl.

[KristenR]

So I guess because this whole situation wasn't icky enough...Porsha is now saying that the explicit photos Kenya displayed were taken when Brit was underage?

[RealHousewife]

 

Just now, KristenR said:

So I guess because this whole situation wasn't icky enough...Porsha is now saying that the explicit photos Kenya displayed were taken when Brit was underage?

This is all so disgusting and sad. 

[Passing Strange]

Whatever Kenya has said about her family has seemed like an explanation, not an excuse. Her mother acted as if Kenya didn't exist, and other family members wouldn't talk with Kenya about her mother's behavior. That's some pretty significant trauma. It's not a given that someone would grow out of it or stop referencing it. One of my friends experienced severe PTSD as the result of witnessing a murder as a child. She saw a therapist for most of her adult life and was still struggling when she died at age 60. We do our best with mental health treatment, but as a society, we're still a long way from understanding and supporting people in that situation.

Porsha is saying that the photos were given to Kenya by a current cast member and that they were taken when Brit was underage. Since Porsha has been shown to have a very casual relationship with the truth, I'm not putting much credence in her claims. Kenya says the photos were not given to her. If Brit really was a sex worker in the past, it's likely she was an adult. I'm not sure what Porsha was trying to do with these statements. What's done is done; there's no need to try to make it worse.

[Iguessnot]

4 hours ago, Passing Strange said:

Whatever Kenya has said about her family has seemed like an explanation, not an excuse. Her mother acted as if Kenya didn't exist, and other family members wouldn't talk with Kenya about her mother's behavior. That's some pretty significant trauma. It's not a given that someone would grow out of it or stop referencing it. One of my friends experienced severe PTSD as the result of witnessing a murder as a child. She saw a therapist for most of her adult life and was still struggling when she died at age 60. We do our best with mental health treatment, but as a society, we're still a long way from understanding and supporting people in that situation.

 

From my reading the room all these years with Kenya and her family, there is a fragility or trauma in the mother's history. They have protected her while being the village for Kenya. Kenya mourns that lack of attachment, and I believe she knows her mom can't control that. But her fundamentally manipulative arse attempted to ambush her mother on Bravo's cameras. Kenya's aunt read her the riot act for that stunt.

Kenya is a vindictive and flawed person. The mommy issues just add more spice and has become a barrier to self-awareness.

 

[ZettaK]

I agree with everybody else. Kenya's behavior was cruel many times before on the show, sometimes for the sake of being cruel, but this is a new low. She is 54 years old, she should be less immature, and able to control herself by now, even if she experienced trauma in her life. I wonder if her mother suffered from some kind of mental illness that Kenya might have inherited because her behavior is not normal. Kenya has a loving father, and aunt (that we saw several times on the RHOA) though, so she was not exactly abandoned. She deservedly got fired for the stunt. As for Brit, she overreacted, as well, but it was more of a "flex". Was she sanctioned by Bravo, eg. suspended from filming for a few days, and warned, like it happened with Jenn Aydin and Brittany of the RH of NJ after a fight?

It seems Kenya is posting photos of herself with tape over her mouth on social media, as in being silenced. But she constantly posts about the incident, and she gives interviews too, so she is not censored by anybody.

Edited April 13 by ZettaK

[Chatty Cake]

I don’t buy that trauma bullshit as an excuse for Kenya’s shitty disgusting behavior. She had it all. Beauty, jobs and though she’s not going to get many new acting gigs, she had the show and her hair care. Who knows what her future holds now. She brought it all on herself.

[Bossa Nova]

Did not see this episode, so I came here to find out exactly what happened and what Kenya did at her event. 

I read thru all the posts (all very good !), but still looking for a brief explanation & a bit more detail as to what exactly Kenya did with "revenge porn" and posters.

Appreciate anyone that can recap what went down. 

 

Thanks much!

[Boofish]

10 minutes ago, Bossa Nova said:

Did not see this episode, so I came here to find out exactly what happened and what Kenya did at her event. 

I read thru all the posts (all very good !), but still looking for a brief explanation & a bit more detail as to what exactly Kenya did with "revenge porn" and posters.

Appreciate anyone that can recap what went down. 

 

Thanks much!

At her event, Kenya made a speech about a "bitch" coming for her. It was so dramatic and badly acted, it was laughable. Then she "claims" she hired a private detective and proceeded to show posters of Britt. One of which included her performing oral s*x. Now they bleeped the picture but one of the HW said out loud "WE DON'T NEED TO SEE PICTURES OF HER S***K D***K" 

Britt herself admitted to allowing her boyfriend to film her while she was a TEENAGER. So I personally think Kenya was let go for flashing posters of a child performing sex acts. But Kenya and her Apologist Army thinks it's not a reason to lose your job. It is my PERSONAL BELIEF that the amount of support she is receiving is just as vile and disgusting as she is.

 

[Bossa Nova]

3 hours ago, Boofish said:

At her event, Kenya made a speech about a "bitch" coming for her. It was so dramatic and badly acted, it was laughable. Then she "claims" she hired a private detective and proceeded to show posters of Britt. One of which included her performing oral s*x. Now they bleeped the picture but one of the HW said out loud "WE DON'T NEED TO SEE PICTURES OF HER S***K D***K" 

Britt herself admitted to allowing her boyfriend to film her while she was a TEENAGER. So I personally think Kenya was let go for flashing posters of a child performing sex acts. But Kenya and her Apologist Army thinks it's not a reason to lose your job. It is my PERSONAL BELIEF that the amount of support she is receiving is just as vile and disgusting as she is.

 

Thank you, Boofish.

Holy crap. That's baaaaad.

Others have summed up Kenya's "issues" very well, but if I may add: there is something deeply emotionally wrong with her. Always has reared its head during her tenure on Atlanta. She is beautiful and smart......but she definitely has unresolved emotional issues most likely from her mother's abandonment of her. 

Its very old news, but I was always AGHAST at what she did with Porsha at the reunion years ago, by bringing that bullhorn. Say what you will about Porsha, but sneaky Kenya, knew how to creep right up to the line in which to drive others MAD and get them in troublem and not herself.

She prob needed to be fired. Bravo rightfully cut that tie. Hopefully it will help her learn and evolve. I am sorry for little Brooklyn.

[Stats Queen]

2 hours ago, Bossa Nova said:

Thank you, Boofish.

Holy crap. That's baaaaad.

Others have summed up Kenya's "issues" very well, but if I may add: there is something deeply emotionally wrong with her. Always has reared its head during her tenure on Atlanta. She is beautiful and smart......but she definitely has unresolved emotional issues most likely from her mother's abandonment of her. 

Its very old news, but I was always AGHAST at what she did with Porsha at the reunion years ago, by bringing that bullhorn. Say what you will about Porsha, but sneaky Kenya, knew how to creep right up to the line in which to drive others MAD and get them in troublem and not herself.

She prob needed to be fired. Bravo rightfully cut that tie. Hopefully it will help her learn and evolve. I am sorry for little Brooklyn.

It totally agree. Porsha was dead wrong for literally dragging her, but I probably would have done the same thing. 
Kenya always took it so close to the line and she went way, way over the line. 
I can’t stand Marlo, but what Kenya did to her at Marlo’s event - invading the event with her band and. “Kenya Moore Hair Care” was also vile.

Kenya deserved to be fired. What is really sad, she had this absolutely beautiful event to celebrate her business and she insisted on doing this crap, even after people were leaving.

She cared more about taking someone else down than building herself up. That is  sad and depressing. 
She is damaged and is refusing to do the hard work to undo the damage and go forward. 
Even with a daughter, she refuses to get to the bottom of her trauma and come out the other side.

I went through serious trauma and dysfunction and my rock bottom was a painful place. 
Kenya wants better for Brooklyn but she is just going to pass her damage onto her beautiful girl if she doesn’t decide to be better and stop self sabotaging

[Sweet-tea]

On 4/7/2025 at 3:58 PM, dancingdreamer said:

The whole Kenya business  was a horrible  mess, spoiling  her own event like that. I honestly  thought  it was a set up at first. 

Was Kendra drunk? Her voice sounded a little off to me. It was horrible. I don’t understand why any of the women stayed.  I would’ve left.

What made it worse for me is the amount of time and effort Kenya put into it in hiring the investigator, preparing the posters, etc. Sickening!

On 4/7/2025 at 6:09 PM, ZettaK said:

I believe she was not offered a contract. 

I didn’t realize this. I thought she left on her own. Interesting. I think the show isn’t the same without Kandi. It’s bottom basement trash now. 

Edited Saturday at 09:22 PM by Sweet-tea

[Stats Queen]

On 4/19/2025 at 5:21 PM, Sweet-tea said:

Was Kendra drunk? Her voice sounded a little off to me. It was horrible. I don’t understand why any of the women stayed.  I would’ve left.

What made it worse for me is the amount of time and effort Kenya put into it in hiring the investigator, preparing the posters, etc. Sickening!

I didn’t realize this. I thought she left on her own. Interesting. I think the show isn’t the same without Kandi. It’s bottom basement trash now. 

Of all the women on all the real housewives shows, Kenya wins the prize for self sabotage. She actually had a beautiful event for her business but she spent all this time and energy to take another woman down instead on elevating herself. 
When your close friend Cynthia is disgusted that is bad. 
Now Kenya is acting as the victim in this whole debacle on social media claiming she was silenced. No, she wasn’t silent and that was the problem.

Not denying that Bravo is full other hypocrites and vile people who kept or got their job back.

Kenya has seemed to learn nothing and has taken no accountability for her behavior. If she wants better for her daughter, than she needs to deal with her own self esteem and her treatment of others