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The View: Week of 3/24/2025


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Monday, March 24 – Juju Chang (co-anchor, “Nightline”)

Tuesday, March 25 – Bill Murray and Naomi Watts (actors, “The Friend”); Tamron Hall (author, “Harlem Honey: The Adventures of a Curious Kid,” and host, “Tamron Hall”)

Wednesday, March 26 – Natalie Dormer (actor, “Audrey’s Children”)

Thursday, March 27 – Nathan Lane and Matt Bomer (actors, “Mid-Century Modern”); LaTanya Richardson Jackson (Broadway’s “Purpose”)

Friday, March 28 – Seth Rogen, Kathryn Hahn, Ike Barinholtz and Chase Sui Wonders (actors, “The Studio”)

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Whoopi: Oh, well, whoever started it, it's not right. *

I couldn't help thinking that she didn't appreciate Sarah pointing out that the end of the "protection" program for Haitians, etc. was initiated during the Biden administration, because making it all about Trump makes this administration sound worse.  One thing that bugs me about some of the ladies is that they don't give the whole context for events; they aren't much better than some of the media they criticize. I know, the argument is that they aren't journalists and shouldn't be held to those standards, but some people will take what they say at face value without doing any other research. 

* I'm not sure that having been given a deadline to make other arrangements when the program ends means that this is "not right". Should temporary shelter necessarily become permanent?

Nightline is 45! I remember when it started during the Iranian hostage crisis. It was a nightly update of the situation, I think called "America Held Hostage" - we all assumed it would end eventually, and the "regular" late night programming would return, but it turned into Nightline and here we are 45 years later. 

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6 hours ago, KittyQ said:

I couldn't help thinking that she didn't appreciate Sarah pointing out that the end of the "protection" program for Haitians, etc. was initiated during the Biden administration, because making it all about Trump makes this administration sound worse. 

I don't think they really need to try to make Trump look worse.  He's managing that all on his own. 

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8 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I don't think they really need to try to make Trump look worse.  He's managing that all on his own. 

So true. They don't need to try to make him sound worse, but they do it anyway. If they would be a little more objective and give context and background, it would be more effective (to me, at least) than constantly painting him as the worst president ever. I'm old enough to remember when other presidents were also considered to be "the worst ever", and the country is still here, no thanks to some of those guys.

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I am so sick of Alyssa laughing at everything!!!!

I think it's her way of

1. Disdaining anything from Dems, including potential candidates, or when Dems  point out lies and hypocrisy of Repubs; as well as.. 

2. Trying to make light of serious mistakes made by the current administration, therefore oopsies!!! No big deal.

Not funny. 

 

I am so sick of Alyssa laughing at everything!!!!

I think it's her way of

1. Disdaining anything from Dems, including potential candidates, or when Dems  point out lies and hypocrisy of Repubs; as well as.. 

2. Trying to make light of serious mistakes made by the current administration, therefore oopsies!!! No big deal.

Not funny. 

I don't believe anything she says, cuz her mannerisms and her later backtracking belies her true nature.

 

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40 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

I want to see that movie for the dog, but damn it, it's one of those independent movies that never get a wide release and only showtimes are a billion miles away from where you live! 😭😭😭

I read the book.  I think it was Whoopi who recommended it one year for their Ladies Get Lit before they go on summer vacation.

Spoiler

It made me sad so I won't be watching the movie. 

 

OMG - the party that has been caught mishandling sensitive information is downplaying it! That never happens. Whoopi - I don't recall the exact details, so who in the Democratic party severely condemned Hillary Clinton's lax handing of emails? 

Not that the current administration is especially cautious and thoughtful in how they are doing things. This was a dumb error, and I'd be asking exactly who added the reporter to the text string, because that person is either incompetent or deliberately wanted to share sensitive information. The reporter originally thought that this was a trap, and maybe it was - it just didn't get sprung when they expected. Either way, the person that added him should be dropped - maybe fired, because you can't let this kind of thing happened. 

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50 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

OMG - the party that has been caught mishandling sensitive information is downplaying it! That never happens. Whoopi - I don't recall the exact details, so who in the Democratic party severely condemned Hillary Clinton's lax handing of emails? 

Not that the current administration is especially cautious and thoughtful in how they are doing things. This was a dumb error, and I'd be asking exactly who added the reporter to the text string, because that person is either incompetent or deliberately wanted to share sensitive information. The reporter originally thought that this was a trap, and maybe it was - it just didn't get sprung when they expected. Either way, the person that added him should be dropped - maybe fired, because you can't let this kind of thing happened. 

Let's just ignore the whataboutism flying around & remember who it was that said Hillary should be locked up for the emails? 

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3 hours ago, KittyQ said:

Not that the current administration is especially cautious and thoughtful in how they are doing things. This was a dumb error, and I'd be asking exactly who added the reporter to the text string, because that person is either incompetent or deliberately wanted to share sensitive information. The reporter originally thought that this was a trap, and maybe it was - it just didn't get sprung when they expected. Either way, the person that added him should be dropped - maybe fired, because you can't let this kind of thing happened. 

Allegedly it was national security advisor Mike Waltz. Oops. Even more incompetent and reckless is the fact they were using an unsecured platform in order to avoid record retention laws. How long have they been doing this and how do we know it hasn’t already been hacked?

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7 hours ago, Shrek said:

Let's just ignore the whataboutism flying around & remember who it was that said Hillary should be locked up for the emails? 

How is Whoopi bringing up Hillary's emails and the reactions to that issue not whataboutism?  If we're seriously ignoring whataboutism, then it shouldn't be mentioned when discussing this latest screwup by current administration. 

It is extremely tempting to revisit past offenses when talking about current events, especially since everything is so divided, but resisting that temptation can help to stop the cycle of pointing fingers. 

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It’s not whataboutism. It’s pointing out the utter hypocrisy of shouting from the rooftops, dragging her in front of committees for 9? hours, and the chants of “lock her up!” for something that didn’t exist. When it comes to a serious real security breech that endangered members of the military? Oh well, that was just a mistake. Oops. Let’s blame the reporter (who had more sense to be discreet than the amateurs in govt). This wasn’t the first time the group chat was used. Who knows how much damage has been done by their loose lips?  One person on the chat was in Moscow at the time of this blunder, using an unsecured phone and an unsecured platform. Idiots. 

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11 hours ago, KittyQ said:

How is Whoopi bringing up Hillary's emails and the reactions to that issue not whataboutism?  If we're seriously ignoring whataboutism, then it shouldn't be mentioned when discussing this latest screwup by current administration. 

 

Where did I say it was or wasn't whataboutism??????????? Please stop saying I said something when I obviously didn't say what you're saying I said, again.

3 hours ago, Haleth said:

It’s pointing out the utter hypocrisy

It's always the hypocrisy.  As someone said above Trump said Hillary Clinton should be in jail.  OK then he should hold those in his own administration to that belief. If they are being this careless what else have they done that puts our country and our troops at risk?

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Group Chat-gate: Have none of those people heard the saying (I think this became well known during Watergate) "It's not the crime, it's the cover-up"? They are making everything worse* by attempting to wave it away or even trying to blame the reporter for being in the chat. I spent years working with people through group chats (in our case, chat software created by our company) and people don't just stumble into a properly set up chat meeting by accident. They have to be invited, or have their join request accepted by the chat group "owner".  We always took care about this, and we weren't discussing anything nearly as significant. 

So, Joy, Abbott isn't entitled to his "outrage" about comments that were pretty clearly meant to mock him because he didn't speak out about Trump's comment years ago? (Maybe he did, maybe he didn't - who knows for sure at this point?) This, however, was about him so of course he can reply. Jasmine Crockett also should be more responsible than to make these comments or at least acknowledge that this was a mean thing to say and not say it again. 

* By "worse", I don't just mean that they are keeping this scandal alive with these dopey excuses, but that it contributes to the public distrust of government and government figures by showing that they can't be trusted with sensitive information and being honest about it.

28 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

Too bad, because being civil and polite shouldn't be left behind in grade school, especially for those in the public eye.

No it shouldn't.  But here we are.  And there is one person to blame for this and that person is not Jasmine Crockett and I am glad the ladies, for the most part, didn't go there.

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26 minutes ago, Dimity said:

No it shouldn't.  But here we are.  And there is one person to blame for this and that person is not Jasmine Crockett and I am glad the ladies, for the most part, didn't go there.

For sure, DT is crass, rude, obnoxious, and if he were a "regular" person, you'd be embarrassed to invite him anywhere, but the real shame is that his example has degraded the norms for how mature people should behave and express themselves, particularly in public. My point is that Crockett is responsible for her own comments, as an adult in public service. She doesn't have to lower her standards to his level.

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I’m disappointed in Jasmine Crockett. That was an unkind thing to say. I’m ok with her previous jabs at people who came after her but mocking someone in a wheelchair?  Not good. (I’m surprised Sunny was unaware that Abbott is disabled.).

Yeah, no one can just join a private group chat. There’s a screen shot of Goldberg’s acceptance into the group by Waltz. It’s pretty clear he mixed up Goldberg’s phone number with someone else, so this continued effort to blame the reporter for joining is ludicrous. They should be thanking him for his discretion until after the operation was complete. 

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On 3/26/2025 at 2:22 PM, Dimity said:

No it shouldn't.  But here we are.  And there is one person to blame for this and that person is not Jasmine Crockett and I am glad the ladies, for the most part, didn't go there.

I'm not a huge fan of Crockett or anything, but I agree with you, I'm glad the show didn't go down that direction. Especially since her comments didn't come across like they were focused on attacking him for being disabled or something so much as attacking him for being an awful human being who just happens to be disabled. 

15 minutes ago, athousandclowns said:

I love Nathan Lane that is all. I hate I don’t have Hulu….cant sign up for another streaming service darn. 

Same. His every guest appearance on this show has been hilarious for as far back as I can remember.

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Alyssa got it right. The issue about the Houthis group chat is not the accidental inclusion of a journalist. The issue is forgoing the use of a SCIF and instead using a texting platform that is not approved for sensitive/classified info. And Joy's point about the vanishing texts on Signal is also important. It violates the Records law.

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2 hours ago, Shrek said:

So the fact that a journalist was invited into a top-secret government chat group by accident isn't an important issue? If that's the case, why don't journalists get invited onto all government chat threads or emails? It would save all the time being wasted arguing over what were the issues with it. 

The inclusion of Goldberg was inadvertent. Of course it was a failure to include him in the first place and ridiculous to not know exactly who was in on this group chat.

But the use of Signal was a deliberate choice that went against orders. Signal is not secure or sanctioned for sensitive government/military communications for several reasons, already stated. We don't know if Hegseth and others were using Signal all along, and whether they would have continued using it if this hadn't been made public. I don't even know if they have stopped using it at all, since they don't want to admit they were wrong to use it.

If the journalist had not been on the group chat, we would have never known about the sloppy security.

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32 minutes ago, Sue in her 60s said:

But the use of Signal was a deliberate choice that went against orders. 

 

Did it though?  And against whose orders? They may well have been using it specifically for the reason that the messages vanish without trace & I doubt very much this was the only time it's been used for such purposes but there is (obviously) no record of it.

But then maybe they're all as honest as the day is long & they've never used it before. I mean it's not like there's anyone with any felonies floating around the White House.

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34 minutes ago, Shrek said:

They may well have been using it specifically for the reason that the messages vanish without trace

That’s the point. There needs to be a record of official conversations. It’s the law.

The irony is that Marco Rubio is the acting archivist for the National Archives. It’s his job to make sure everything is documented. 

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2 hours ago, Shrek said:

Did it though?  And against whose orders? They may well have been using it specifically for the reason that the messages vanish without trace & I doubt very much this was the only time it's been used for such purposes but there is (obviously) no record of it.

But then maybe they're all as honest as the day is long & they've never used it before. I mean it's not like there's anyone with any felonies floating around the White House.

Signal is not approved by the Department of Defense for sensitive/classified communications. There are so many reasons. The members of this chat group are top intelligence officers. They must have been aware of the correct way to communicate securely.  If they weren't aware, they are unfit for their jobs.

Believe me, the spy agencies of our allies as well as adversaries are unhappy this breach of security was discovered. Undoubtedly they were working on exploiting it, if they hadn't already done so.

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8 hours ago, Sue in her 60s said:

Signal is not approved by the Department of Defense for sensitive/classified communications. There are so many reasons. The members of this chat group are top intelligence officers. They must have been aware of the correct way to communicate securely.  If they weren’t aware, they are unfit for their jobs.

Fixed that for you. 

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1 hour ago, Haleth said:

Funny talking about international travel, just a little while ago a friend was saying her flight to Montreal has been cancelled a couple times because there isn’t enough airline traffic.

Bookings for travel to the US from Canada are down by 70%.  Several airlines haven't just cancelled flights, they've changed their schedules going forward and the drop in the tourism dollar is already being felt.

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