S18.E21: Where Are They Now: It's Vow or Never

[TwirlyGirly]

Over a year has passed since Decision Day, and the Chicago cast reflects on how their lives have changed; one ex-husband seeks legal advice, while a former wife realizes it's time to make amends; everyone comes together for a special ceremony.

➡️Air date: 3/25/2025

[Retired at last]

There's also yet another follow up show where they will replay, yet again, the top 10 moments from this season. Enough already! We can't miss it if it never goes away!

But, I will say that I appreciate the show filming these follow-up shows a year after filming since they took so long to show them in the first place.

Edited Tuesday at 07:44 PM by Retired at last

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No interest in David and Madison, they will forever just be gross to me. I also think Madison should stop acting so self-righteous about Michelle's behavior when she snuck around and lied to Allen their whole marriage.

Karla looked sooo cute when Michelle came over (loved her sweater!) and her apartment looks really nice too.

Thomas doesn't seem that fulfilled in his marriage from the way he was talking to his brother. Feeling a lot less hopeful for him and Camille after that conversation. 

[Elizzikra]

Why does Ikechi keep asking people for divorce advice. He was legally married for about a minute and he never liked his wife. He's making It sound like he needs deep emotional support, and he probably does, but it's not because he's heartbroken about his failed marriage. Maybe that was just to give him something to do on camera?

Also - Juancho's Ponchos? First - horrible idea. Second, the punctuation was incorrect in the logo. 

Also that commitment ceremony was just... weird. Emem put on a wedding dress but it looks like she didn't do anything with her hair or anything particularly interesting with her makeup. No flowers; no decoration... just not much going on there. Also I don't remember her having such poor posture; maybe I just didn't notice it before but her shoulders were all slumped over when she walked in the room and was standing with PC and Brandon. 

[Crashcourse]

I guess I sat through this whole boring episode because it'll be my last MAFS show.  I won't be watching on Peacock, so...

Buh Bye, MAFS! 

[seacliffsal]

This was really boring IMO.  I think something is really off with Emem and Brandon.  In one of her interviews she stated that she had her walls up when she went out with Brandon but he worked at making her feel vulnerable again.  How did he do that?  They were engaged on their second date.  He must be a magician.

I don't understand why we had to watch Ikechi go to a divorce lawyer-he tried to pull a fake divorce during the 8 weeks, why hasn't he sought a divorce lawyer earlier during the year that transpired before this episode?  Something seems really off with him-so maybe he and Emem were a better match than I originally thought.

Allen seems like he's running out the clock on his Married at First Sight contract-good for him.  I think we'll see less of him than some of the others in the future.

Michelle is sorry that she looked so bad on camera towards David.  And, it looked like she had some work done on her face/lips?  IMO she was very pretty and did not need any work, but if it makes her happy, then good for her.  I am glad that she finally apologized to David, but it seemed like she just can't get over David leaving her for Madison.

I hope they are all able to move forward, drop the issues they may have with each other, and be happy.

[Retired at last]

The number of responses pretty much says it all. Bye bye MAFS. I was really confused by the Ick-man and the divorce. I always thought that if the couples said they wanted a divorce on D-Day, the show helped with that process. Otherwise, why would people sign up if they knew the odds and then they would have to pay for it themselves? 

I did enjoy the Michelle/Karla conversation, even though it looked like neither of them were wearing pants. But, they both looked great. Michelle really did seem to acknowledge what a horrible bitch she was to David. And I LOVED how Karla realized that she could not be with a partner who is like her - I loved it when she said that, "Someone needs a plan and that sure wouldn't be me!" That is exactly what one of the issues with Juan was. Speaking of confusion - what is with their shared business and how does that lawsuit fit in???? Juancho's Ponchos???

Allen is a gentleman and will be fine. I agree that making David and Madison the success story of the century won't really work with most of the viewers. I still think David is way more in love than she is, but they seem happy. Now, Thomas and Camille. . . I wondered how happy he could be with her, and it looks like he is not truly. I hope he decides before they have kids. She just has an attitude that she is better than he is and is always so condescending and I think she is hard to please. Plus, as long as her personality is the type to enjoy making people suffer or worry so she can then just say, "Just kidding," I have no hope for them. That is a horrible characteristic and I think a serious flaw. (I had a manager like that and she came into my office one day, eyes blazing, telling me that the director of our division called her about me, so I thought I was going to be fired, just to tell me that he said I was a great addition to the team, etc. But, by that time, she had ruined any possible chance of pride I could feel, and I never forgot that.)

Why didn't Emem seek out a divorce? Is Brandon still married? They are both too strange and he just wants his TV stardom. She is strange and always has been. Ick looks better and better. Not good - just better.

I did not watch the follow-up show. We just saw the whole season replayed - why do another show about it?

[Rightside]

Well, that was a colossal waste of time!

 

[Crashcourse]

So, wait.  Emem and Brandon had a "commitment ceremony" so they aren't married.  When is she gonna get her huzzzbinnnn?  Seriously, she should be glad that they aren't married yet because I think she's in for some sad surprises.  

2 hours ago, Retired at last said:

Speaking of confusion - what is with their shared business and how does that lawsuit fit in???? Juancho's Ponchos???

I was confused about that too.  

[Elizzikra]

2 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

So, wait.  Emem and Brandon had a "commitment ceremony" so they aren't married.  When is she gonna get her huzzzbinnnn? 

She has to finalize the divorce from her first huzzzbinnnn…

[VioletNevermind]

This was easily the worst season of this show.  Still, I'll miss it (I am absolutely not paying for another streaming service just to watch this).  My final thoughts:

David will always be Basement David to me.  I do have to point out that I called him and his trashiness from day one.  Madison is forever the Chicag-heaux who treated one of the best guys this show ever had like garbage, from her laughable suggestions that Allen change his wardrobe and teeth, to her flat-out cheating on him.  If David remains faithful to her and they're still together within five years, I will happily eat my words.  As for Michelle, I never liked her, but I do have to respect her decision to formally apologize to David for her horrible behavior toward him in the beginning, even if it was deserved and even if the apology was for the cameras.  As much as I dislike her, we definitely agree on David.  It's a rare woman who would be okay with a guy in his mid-30s who lives in his parents' basement.

The things that Thomas said to his brother about his marriage were really depressing.  He's "still waiting" for that deep connection and that "can't live without you feeling" about Camille?  Yikes.  They need marital counseling to discuss their expectations of one another.  I will echo what others here have said about her condescending attitude toward him.  I rolled my eyes every time she talked about her desire for him to be more "urban."  Girl, please.  Grow up and learn to value the man in front of you, business suit and all.

Juan and Karla were never going to work out because he was only on the show for exposure and she's way too "out there" for him and many other men, too.  (Also, the poncho thing- dear Lord.  I'll leave it at that.)

As for Emem and Brandon, I wish her luck with him.  She never seemed particularly stable and he is all but dancing for the cameras.  Their "commitment ceremony" last night was pretty cringeworthy.  Ikechi isn't even worth the effort of typing.

And finally, Allen.  He deserves so much more than this farce of a show and certainly that "marriage."  He'll land on his feet and be better off without all of it.

Edited 3 hours ago by VioletNevermind

[Shauna]

Thomas and Camille seem like friends.  And not even close friends.  Kind of weird of Thomas to say he's waiting for the passion.  He's gonna be waiting a really long time.  I don't even know why either one of them said yes, especially Camille, she's so not into him.  

I thought David was way more into Madison than she into him, but after last night's show, I feel like she's super into him.   I find them both gross, though.  Her constant laughing is super annoying.  

 

I couldn't watch the second show with that blonde's scratchy voice.  Same voice she had on another show.  Is this her actual voice?  She really shouldn't have been on with it.  Get someone else.  

 

 

[Elizzikra]

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 I don't even know why either one of them said yes, especially Camille, she's so not into him.  

I think they are both done with dating and ready be married. I think they like each other enough and felt like they had enough of what they wanted to try to make a go of it. And honestly? There are worse reasons to get (stay) married...

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I feel like by this point Camille might be more invested in Thomas than he is with her. I probably would not have read into this before last night's episode, but Thomas has no photos on his Instagram of Camille (and he has been actively posting), whereas she posted a bunch of photos of them together and wrote a sweet and sentimental caption about their relationship. Even in the reunion episode it seemed like she was gushing more about their relationship while he was kinda half smiling and nodding along. I know Thomas is 44 and feels pressure to have kids in the very near feature, but I hope he realizes it wouldn't be fair to Camille to move forward with a baby if he's still feeling so wishy washy and unsure about her.

[JenE4]

The Lifetime app has this episode locked for people who pay for access. But I suppose I should thank them for the opportunity not to watch. I was wondering whether the “special ceremony” was going to be Emem and Brandon’s wedding, or Karla saging the bad karma off of everyone in a cleansing ceremony.

[Hip-to-be-Square]

  How could Thomas build passion for Camille when she always wears baggy athleisure sets?  I yelled at my TV in horror when she showed up to Thomas's brother's house in that sexless baggy blue crew neck tee, duster sweater, and flared pant set.  She demands "swag" from Thomas and looks like she's on a couch waiting for Door Dash to come. She's not doing her body justice with those outfits. Thomas and Camille are phoning it in with each other.  Don't let a shitty reality TV show guilt you into staying in this marriage, Thomas and Camille! 

   This is it for me- I'm divorcing this show. I only watched it to read all of the great comments on here.  Let's regroup when they make a Lifetime Movie about Emem's marriage 😏😅. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Hip-to-be-Square