chitowngirl March 11 Share March 11 Joyce launches a women's health initiative to unexpected results; Ron treats a patient who has all the answers; Bruce has an existential crisis. Airdate March 11, 2025 on NBC, next day Peacock Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/
AnimeMania March 12 Share March 12 Carin Chea as Doctor Christine Anoop Desai as Ben Harris Steve Little as Sanderson Todd Aaron Brotze as Leo’s Dad Lisa Dobbyn as Leo’s Mom Jill Alexander as Elderly Patient's Daughter Gary Lee Reed as Elderly Patient Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8604561
Harvey March 12 Share March 12 I had this experience this before, doctors get so frustrated when you looked up your symptoms so you know what is going on and because of this you notice when they misdiagnose you. Like excuse me for caring about my health. Ron was totally in the wrong here. You don't need to make your patient's sickness about you. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8604828
txhorns79 March 12 Share March 12 (edited) 7 hours ago, Harvey said: I had this experience this before, doctors get so frustrated when you looked up your symptoms so you know what is going on and because of this you notice when they misdiagnose you. Like excuse me for caring about my health. I understood his frustration. Google and WebMD can be very useful tools in helping a layman find out more about potential symptoms and treatments, but they aren't a substitute for a medical degree or training. I'd have to think doctors hear so much garbage from patients who have done their own research that it gets old quick, even if the patient might be right about a particular diagnosis. Edited March 12 by txhorns79 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8605057
Chit Chat March 12 Share March 12 I thought this was a good episode. It was nice to see the nurses rally around Joyce as she dealt with her medical issue. Bruce always cracks me up. He got so focused on the first line of the poem, but then he read the whole thing, and rather than having some kind of epiphany, he thought it was a load of crap! Typical Bruce! It was funny that he had to call his mom for reassurance. He seems to be a highly competent surgeon, but emotionally he tends to be a mess! Doctor's egos are a delicate thing! I think it's good that we can research our symptoms & have a general idea of what we think might be wrong, but Ron's patient seemed to be dictating his care before ever letting Ron check him and then he had the other doctor on his computer, and that's a sure way to make a physician mad! The patient was getting a second opinion before getting the first one! He needed to let Ron examine him before questioning his every move. In the dental world, it's usually an issue with the misinformation a person reads from social media or some M.D. on TV who gives dental advice without ever having studied dentistry. I can't count the number of times I've heard "but Dr. Oz said....." Ugh! Sometimes we're fighting a losing battle on educating people about their dental health because they think that what they read on the internet trumps all of the years of schooling & experience by dentists, hygienists & assistants. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8605217
Harvey March 12 Share March 12 (edited) 5 hours ago, txhorns79 said: I understood his frustration. Google and WebMD can be very useful tools in helping a layman find out more about potential symptoms and treatments, but they aren't a substitute for a medical degree or training. I'd have to think doctors hear so much garbage from patients who have done their own research that it gets old quick, even if the patient might be right about a particular diagnosis. It is understandable, but not reasonable. The most common illnesses are easy to diagnose precisely because they are so commonplace. Innocent people shouldn't suffer just to protect the sensitive doctor's feelings who wants to play god. Edited March 12 by Harvey Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8605302
HyeChaps March 13 Share March 13 Joyce is an oncologist. She knows better. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8605497
Chit Chat March 13 Share March 13 43 minutes ago, HyeChaps said: Joyce is an oncologist. She knows better. True, but she was probably scared and didn't want to face the results (if they were bad). Being an oncologist, she's seen the worst-case scenarios and that's scary for her (and anybody in that situation.) At least she had the mammogram. There are people whose fear of what could be keeps them from getting routine tests or seeing a doctor whenever they have something suspicious come up. I've seen it in the dental office. Some don't want any x-rays for fear that we're going to find something wrong. There's a lot of fear out there in the medical & dental field. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8605706
possibilities March 13 Share March 13 I'm lucky to have doctors who enjoy working with an informed and proactive patient. If you're not a defensive ego-maniac with a God complex, it's not hard to respond to an informed patient. When they tell you what they think, you can ask them why they think that [maybe they will report a symptom you wouldn't otherwise hear about] and say something like "sounds like you've been looking into it, but let me also do an exam to confirm" or "The treatment I recommend is XYZ, which I think will be more effective than the ABC you suggested". The patient is free to take your advice or not, and that's their problem. You can tell them why you recommend what you recommend, and why you think their info is wrong, and it's ultimately their life for better or worse. It's not about your ego. Obviously a patient came to you for help. So you offer the help. You don't have to feel threatened by their attempt to be involved and informed about their care. Sometimes I think doctors are so busy being on a power trip that they can't actually relate to patients like functioning human beings. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8605865
txhorns79 March 13 Share March 13 5 hours ago, Harvey said: It is understandable, but not reasonable. The most common illnesses are easy to diagnose precisely because they are so commonplace. Innocent people shouldn't suffer just to protect the sensitive doctor's feelings who wants to play god. I don't know about anyone suffering. It's one thing to say "I think I may have "X" diagnosis" to your treating physician during your exam. It's another to order them around regarding getting you specific treatments, or have a doctor at the ready online to check their work. There are certainly bad doctors out there with poor bedside manners who don't treat their patients in a respectful manner. On the other hand, we currently are seeing how dangerous it can be when people without the appropriate medical training or background take health care into their own hands. 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8605877
Chit Chat March 13 Share March 13 (edited) On 3/12/2025 at 10:22 PM, possibilities said: Sometimes I think doctors are so busy being on a power trip that they can't actually relate to patients like functioning human beings. Luckily, I haven't had that particular issue. The main issue I see is medical offices that are really busy, so you don't have much time with the doctor. You've got to voice any concerns in a concise manner. Edited March 17 by Chit Chat 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8606054
auntiemel March 14 Share March 14 Ok, this episode got me in the feels. 😊 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8606795
Lois Sandborne March 15 Share March 15 On 3/12/2025 at 8:22 PM, possibilities said: I'm lucky to have doctors who enjoy working with an informed and proactive patient. If you're not a defensive ego-maniac with a God complex, it's not hard to respond to an informed patient. I agree. A lot of doctors hide the ball, they don't think patients need or want to know details, how they reached a conclusion, or why they're recommending something. But I do. I'm coming in informed, and I'm going to ask questions until I'm comfortable with whatever's happening. It's my body, health, life, so I don't give two figs about a doctor's ego. Grow up. Of course Dr. Ron and his patient were both obnoxious and exaggerated for the laughs. But I'm on the patient's side. On 3/11/2025 at 5:25 PM, AnimeMania said: Anoop Desai as Ben Harris I can't believe that was American Idol Anoop! 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8607981
ASpring1900 March 15 Share March 15 Bugging/pestering/nagging people about private health screenings is a HUGE pet peeve of mine (a local hospital had a #AskHer mammogram campaign, which I thought was invasive and awful). The, in my experience, inaccurate mammogram "gag" of Joyce's "ouchie! this hurts!" reaction is one of the reasons women skip this screening, so the show did women a disservice with the lame joke. It would have been funnier if she had a line like, "See? Easy and gentle as usual!" then turned and bumped her head hard on an open cabinet, causing the robe to fly open again. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8608225
SoMuchTV March 15 Share March 15 7 minutes ago, ASpring1900 said: It would have been funnier if she had a line like, "See? Easy and gentle as usual!" then turned and bumped her head hard on an open cabinet, causing the robe to fly open again. I normally privately roll my eyes when random people on message boards post to say how a show would have been better if it had done some idea the poster came up with, but I gotta say, I can’t disagree with you there! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8608232
AnimeMania March 16 Share March 16 Next New Episode: March 25, 2025 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8608437
chediavolo Thursday at 01:52 PM Share Thursday at 01:52 PM On 3/12/2025 at 1:03 PM, txhorns79 said: I understood his frustration. Google and WebMD can be very useful tools in helping a layman find out more about potential symptoms and treatments, but they aren't a substitute for a medical degree or training. I'd have to think doctors hear so much garbage from patients who have done their own research that it gets old quick, even if the patient might be right about a particular diagnosis. Well, if you’re like many of us, who have been getting the runaround for years nay, decades about mysterious symptoms or you are diagnosed with something but then getting no aftercare instructions or any follow ups then using Google correctly is a godsend. WHAT does Joyce see in Sanderson? She really is too smart to be stuck with this useless boyfriend. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152325-s01e14-listen-to-your-ladybugs/#findComment-8618495
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