S01.E08: Man Plans

[AnimeMania]

Amy and Richard reconnect while treating a patient whose diagnosis is not at all what it seems. A real life romcom comes to Westside Hospital, bringing love to the forefront of everyone’s mind.

Premiere Date: February 25, 2025    FOX    9pm

Next New Episode: March 11, 2025    

[Cloud9Shopper]

Well, now that Amy passed her boards, I’m glad the show is over. /s

No, seriously. I don’t see the point anymore. I think I’ll just watch more 9-1-1 Lone Star on Tuesdays now. (Fan of the OG 9-1-1 but watching Lone Star even though it’s over because I want to check it out.)

Doc is really just like every other medical drama/soap opera now with the big plot pretty much resolved. 

[l star]

So all Richard had to do to avoid all this was admit what happened when it happened. Just let their malpractice cover it. The coverup really is the crime here. And he’s been pissed at Amy because he screwed up and she said something (the first time)? Or because she decided to go for chief, the job he wanted and thought he deserved, and got it by being more qualified and a better doctor? I’m going with number two which is not sympathetic to me in the least. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that he’s all understanding and allowing now that she’s knocked down. She’s not a threat anymore. He’s an asshole. And a screwup. 

Michael had a lot of nerve. I don’t care how hard it’s been on him. None of that was about professional consideration. He was way out of line. I love that Amy didn’t even acknowledge the feelings he was throwing at her at the end. What was she supposed to say? It reminded me of the scene at the museum when he melted down on her. I sympathize that he has to feel like what he wanted is so close, she’s literally right there and back to being who he wanted, but he remarried. He’s got to deal and let her do the same.

Amy and Jake make more sense now. That relationship is really the only thing fully in her control. Plus with all the uncertain and negatively tinged relationships around her, he’s positive and very straight forward. He loves her. He has her back and doesn’t want her to be or do anything different to get his love. She doesn’t have to earn him by being new, good Amy like she does with all her other relationships, even Katie. I can see why she doesn’t want to let it go. I’m glad the final scores scene was with Katie and Gina though. 

They crossed the line testing that patient, but I think that’s just part of the show. Ignoring those lines is how this show rolls. I can deal with that. Every show has something. It’s more about the characters anyway.

I HATED the entire rom com storyline and everyone involved with it. Even Jake didn’t come out well, and I like Jake. 

[Packerbrewerbadger]

I’m “hate watching” this show because I loathe Amy, past and present and how she is always the  one with the answer.  How unethical was testingThe sister  when  she clearly made known she didn’t want to.?  They had better not billed her or her insurance!

[MsJamieDornan]

5 hours ago, Packerbrewerbadger said:

I loathe Amy, past and present

She is an annoying person.

[possibilities]

Richard was also in on the test, so we can't blame Amy for that unless we also blame Richard.

I agree it was unethical.

I don't dislike Amy in general, though.

Edited Wednesday at 09:42 PM by possibilities

[mythreesons]

I have two issues about last night's episode.

First, the fact Amy and Richard ran the blood test on the patient's sister without her permission.  If I was in the sister's shoes, I'd be thrilled to know I didn't have the gene, but then I'd get really mad at them for violating my privacy and running a test I specifically said I didn't want.  Who is going to pay for the test? 

Has anyone ever seen a medicine cabinet in a hospital hallway?  Meds are usually kept under lock and key in a private -- not public -- space. I know the writers needed a scene with the patient, but that's the best they could come up with?

Edited Thursday at 01:45 PM by mythreesons

[l star]

I love Amy, past and present. I’m like Jake that way. That makes it easy to watch and accept the show’s flaws, like in-universe acceptance of unethical shit. 

[KaveDweller]

I thought this really felt like a finale. I kept waiting for something bad to happen - Amy to fail the boards, Richard to tell Amy and Jake they can't date and work there, the patient suing them for testing without her consent.....anything to throw in some conflict to continue the set up of the show.

[txhorns79]

2 hours ago, KaveDweller said:

I thought this really felt like a finale. I kept waiting for something bad to happen - Amy to fail the boards, Richard to tell Amy and Jake they can't date and work there, the patient suing them for testing without her consent.....anything to throw in some conflict to continue the set up of the show.

Yes, I expected some kind of setback, not another shrug of the shoulders when a patient is deceived into having blood taken and tests performed.  What would have happened if the woman was positive?  Would Amy not have told her? 

[CarpeFelis]

40 minutes ago, txhorns79 said:

Yes, I expected some kind of setback, not another shrug of the shoulders when a patient is deceived into having blood taken and tests performed.  What would have happened if the woman was positive?  Would Amy not have told her? 

That was what Amy and Richard decided to do — tell her if it was negative, keep it to themselves if it wasn’t. This was ridiculous. Even if their intentions were good, these two aren’t interns, FFS. They should certainly understand what a breach of ethics it was to genetically test a patient without her knowledge or consent.

Besides the unbelievable location of the medicine cabinet (and the fact it isn’t automated), another dumb inaccuracy was the guy getting out of the wheelchair and walking out with Mandy. For liability reasons, hospitals insist the patient remain in the wheelchair until they’re out the door, even if they’re perfectly capable of walking out on their own.

During Amy’s talk with Richard about her relationship with Jake I kept wondering if Richard was lying about giving her a recommendation. But I guess not since Michael got his letter.

Now that Dixon’s autopsy results have surfaced, I think all hell is going to break loose unless Richard was smart enough and underhanded enough to go into the system and modify it or pay off someone to do so if he doesn’t have write access. Then again, it still seems odd to me that this one mistake would tank his entire career. He might get sued by Dixon’s family, the hospital might get sued, but lose his career, really? But if he’s found out now, will he still try to tank Amy? Or will he, as the new department chair, just try to sweep it under the rug?

I thought Michael was way overstepping. Would he really have given Jake that “called to the principal’s office” lecture if Amy wasn’t his ex? Go be nicer to your pregnant wife and leave Amy’s love life alone, Michael.

 

Edited Thursday at 04:01 AM by CarpeFelis

[l star]

1 hour ago, CarpeFelis said:

Now that Dixon’s autopsy results have surfaced, I think all hell is going to break loose unless Richard was smart enough and underhanded enough to go into the system and modify it or pay off someone to do so if he doesn’t have write access. Then again, it still seems odd to me that this one mistake would tank his entire career. He might get sued by Dixon’s family, the hospital might get sued, but lose his career, really? But if he’s found out now, will he still try to tank Amy? Or will he, as the new department chair, just try to sweep it under the rug?

I thought Michael was way overstepping. Would he really have given Jake that “called to the principal’s office” lecture if Amy wasn’t his ex? Go be nicer to your pregnant wife and leave Amy’s love life alone, Michael.

I think the coverup really is the crime here. From what Amy said when it happened, if he’d just admitted it, malpractice would have taken care of it. His career probably would have still taken a hit, but it wouldn’t be this crisis. I think his ego wouldn’t let him, especially not admitting it to her. Now in addition to killing the guy, he’s lied about it and falsified his chart to further cover it up. He’s created this problem, and I hope it takes him down.

No way would Michael have handled it that way if it were anybody else. He wasn’t wrong with what he said to Amy about the risks, but he was so far out of line it didn’t matter. Dude needs to find a way to deal before he loses his new family too. Amy’s respecting the boundaries of his marriage. Like with Richard, this problem is all on him.

 

[txhorns79]

1 hour ago, CarpeFelis said:

For liability reasons, hospitals insist the patient remain in the wheelchair until they’re out the door, even if they’re perfectly capable of walking out on their own.

They can insist all they want, but it isn't as though they can force the patient back into the chair if the patient gets up and walks away. 

Edited Thursday at 05:24 AM by txhorns79

[Madding crowd]

They are going to need some kind of hook to keep the show going. ER and Grey’s Anatomy had large ensemble casts to show different relationships along with patients, New Amsterdam had changing hospital and insurance regulations, The Good Doctor had an autistic doctor. This one has a woman with amnesia but if her amnesia doesn’t matter they need something else especially since they no longer have villains with Richard and Sonya.

[CarpeFelis]

On 2/26/2025 at 9:22 PM, txhorns79 said:

They can insist all they want, but it isn't as though they can force the patient back into the chair if the patient gets up and walks away. 

True, but here nobody even said anything to him.

[statsgirl]

I'm beginning to feel sorry for Richard. He seems like a decent guy, a capable doctor, who made a mistake because he was upset because of things in his personal life and now it's snowballing. I don't know if Scott Wolfe wants to exit the show but I do hope that Richard is let off the hook and back next season.

There is no justification for testing the sister of the patient. It's her choice whether she wants to know or not. And since there was no other reason for taking her blood, it could legally be considered assault.

We now see more of Amy's relationship with Jake and I like it. He doesn't want anything but what is best for her. That's rare.

On 2/26/2025 at 11:00 PM, CarpeFelis said:

I thought Michael was way overstepping. Would he really have given Jake that “called to the principal’s office” lecture if Amy wasn’t his ex? Go be nicer to your pregnant wife and leave Amy’s love life alone, Michael.

 

Excellent advice.

Michael is still trapped in the past, even more than Amy is with her lack of memories. Finding it hard to deal with the idea that Amy, who is now more like the Amy of old, has a new relationship that she will fight for. (Very good acting on Omar Metwally's part, you could see how conflicted he is.) He can no longer use his anger at Amy and how she behaved to Katie as a defense.

He really needs to go back and mend bridges with his wife. She doesn't deserve this nor does his unborn child.

[possibilities]

The thing about Richard is: he killed a patient. And he lied to cover it up even when given a chance to come clean and let the malpractice insurance deal with it. 

Yes, people make mistakes. But if you have a high stakes job, and you can't compartmentalize, and you kill someone... that's bad.

I can see it now: the airplane pilot was a good person, but they were not paying attention because theyw ere distracted by personal stuff, and that's why they crashed the plane.

If it was you, or someone you loved, who was killed, you'd be pretty upset.

And if it was an injury, not a death, you would need some compensation, which the insurance could potentially give you, to cover expenses related to your injury. 

But the doctor is lying to save his reputation, because he cares more about himself than the people he hurts.

It's not a small thing. You don't want people in sensitive positions who can't be trusted.