ZettaK February 20 Share February 20 (edited) Shep starts to spiral over his relationship and sends a text message that causes ripples among the group; Craig and Austen's tepid friendship truce starts to unravel; the crew eagerly awaits JT's arrival. ETA: The crew doesn't eagerly awaits JT's arrival. That was Bravo's description, not mine. First aired on 2/20/2025. Edited February 21 by ZettaK 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/
kristen111 February 21 Share February 21 (edited) Is Shep for real? He’s making a damn fool of himself texting his heart out to Sienna or whatever her name is. She is so not into him. What a jerk. Karma is a Bitch after what you’ve done to Taylor. You used her up and spit her out. Edited February 21 by kristen111 8 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8586937
For Cereals February 21 Share February 21 3 minutes ago, kristen111 said: Is Shep for real? He’s making a damn fool of himself texting his heart out to Sienna or whatever her name is. She is so not into him. What a jerk. Karma is a Bitch after what you’ve done to Taylor. I’m loving this for him LOL 6 1 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8586943
tranquilidade February 21 Share February 21 Madison is showing her true trashy self. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8586948
kristen111 February 21 Share February 21 Boy, for a Wife and Mother, Madison sure gets around. lol. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8586949
bosawks February 21 Share February 21 I don’t think I have ever agreed with Craig and Austen about anything but then Shep’s text happened… 6 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8586957
tranquilidade February 21 Share February 21 Shep just can't believe someone would not find him wonderful because he decided it should be that way. Run Sienna, run....................... 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8586959
esco1822 February 21 Share February 21 Craig is such a hypocrite. He’s doing to Shep exactly what he admonished JT for doing to Taylor, then stormed out. At least JT tried to do it kindly, Craig was just a straight up dick. Meanwhile he’s not seeing the neon signs that he and Paige aren’t on the same…Page. To a lesser MUCH extent, but similar to Shep. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8586975
tranquilidade February 21 Share February 21 (edited) I've been waiting for Paige to drop the bomb on Craig for a long time it was so clear she was not that into him. He is also a liar and tried to get JT roasted because he wanted to break up his friendships and drive him off. Craig is a unique kind of crazy, not like the others but just as bad. Austen on the other hand acts like a 14 year old. How can grown men be so immature? Edited February 21 by tranquilidade 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8586980
ZettaK February 21 Author Share February 21 (edited) Poor, delusional Shep. You can't force anybody to love you, or even like you because you're forcing yourself on them on tv. We now know why Sienna (I'm sure) dumped you. This was so uncomfortable to watch. Edited February 21 by ZettaK 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8586984
tranquilidade February 21 Share February 21 Yeah he is too much. He decides she should love him because he thinks it. Good grief. 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8586992
snarts February 21 Share February 21 (edited) 20 minutes ago, esco1822 said: Craig is such a hypocrite. He’s doing to Shep exactly what he admonished JT for doing to Taylor, then stormed out. Craig's being a good friend. He's sees firsthand how Sienna feels about Shep & is trying protect him from further heartbreak. Austen said similar things about the text & Sienna in his confessional. Plus, Shep keeps asking for their opinions. JT hadn't spoken to Taylor in months. He's never even met Gaston. He chose to publicly go after her relationship, shaming Salley in the process, all because he's butthurt that Taylor rebuffed his advances. Apples & tomatoes, IMHO. 56 minutes ago, tranquilidade said: Madison is showing her true trashy self. Did I blink & miss something? Finally, Taylor seems way too involved/interested in Shep for someone who claims to be so happy with another guy. She's still pressed. Edited February 21 by snarts 4 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8586993
tranquilidade February 21 Share February 21 7 minutes ago, snarts said: Did I blink & miss something? i found her comments about the stripper pole and attracting the boat for a ride crude. I think she is a trash bucket in disguise. She pretends to have class but she has none. She gets by because she is beautiful and prettier than everyone ont he show. 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8587001
IntrovertRed February 21 Share February 21 Sure Austen, you don’t like kicking someone when they’re down. Somehow I bet he was pleased that Paige broke up with Craig. Shep is so coming off stalkerish. She’s just not that into you. He is dumbfounded and literally can’t understand it. Damn, I forgot how much of an ass he was towards Madison in the beginning. Madison is gorgeous, but I’ve noticed she really doesn’t say ‘thank you’ or is very appreciative to staff at restaurants, hotels, etc. Maybe it was just a couple times, but I think it says a lot about someone when people act like that. Craig, how can you be surprised that you’re not Austen’s favorite person after all the arguments you’ve had the past couple weeks. I will be so disappointed if Venita hooks up with JT. 19 minutes ago, tranquilidade said: i found her comments about the stripper pole and attracting the boat for a ride crude. I think she is a trash bucket in disguise. She pretends to have class but she has none. She gets by because she is beautiful and prettier than everyone ont he show. I thought it was funny, even Venita said use ‘em before you take ‘em out. Madison has always been somewhat crude, but it doesn’t make someone trashy. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8587012
ZettaK February 21 Author Share February 21 13 minutes ago, IntrovertRed said: Sure Austen, you don’t like kicking someone when they’re down. Somehow I bet he was pleased that Paige broke up with Craig. You should have seen him on Watch What Happens Live recently. He was giddy discussing Craig and Paige's breakup. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8587118
dancingdreamer February 21 Share February 21 (edited) Shep is living in an alternative universe, he can't see that Sienna ignores him, she'd rather hang out with his friends, I'm glad Craig said something. Craig said Shep would spiral, in the previews it looks like he does. I found Sienna to be kind of snooty, like she's far too good for Shep. She's too young, but she's on a dating app, trolling for a rich guy imo. Taylor still likes Shep, maybe they can just be friends, who knows. That ocean looked fabulous. I like Madisons wardrobe, that pale pink number was beautiful. Edited February 21 by dancingdreamer 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8587125
aghst February 21 Share February 21 (edited) They say his text was heartfelt. But if Sienna meant everything to him, why would he put it out on the show? He may have been on the show for 10 seasons but would he or any of these cast members put their most deeply felt feelings on public display? Remember that the camera changes the behavior of the people it records. Shep was laughing every other sentence as he read his text to Austen and then Craig. He was laughing too after the scuba diving. If he’s as crushed as they try to portray him, would he put himself on camera or go away and tell them he doesn’t want to be filmed? All or most of the scenes he’s shot for the show over the years haven’t been dramatic. He’s never pretended to love any of the women they’ve shown him with, much less be in love. So why after all this time is he suppose to be so head over heels? He’s never shown himself to be vulnerable or emotionally open. He’s not some naive, inexperienced boy. And this is a damn realty show, which is known for false narratives. It’s such an abrupt change from his persona of the previous 9 seasons that it’s just not credible that he’s swooning like a school boy. Plus she’s not even all that, doesn’t come close to the most attractive women who’ve been on the show and her evasive, cold personality also doesn’t merit him making such a big deal about her. Seems like they want to sell heartbreak this season. Craig will have his own country song drama later this season as well. Bravo may think the show needed their main bros to be way up in their feels because the show became stale? Taylor saying Shep should date someone his own age is ridiculous since she’s only about 5-6 years older than Sienna and Shep is also way older than her. Show doesn’t want to have women as old as Shep and Whitney on as love interests for these showmances. Edited February 21 by aghst 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8587153
bosawks February 21 Share February 21 I think Shep's text was heartfelt. It's just that the heart it was feeling was his. 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8587234
nexxie February 21 Share February 21 Funny how Shep isn’t thinking, “Wow, now I know how I’ve made hundreds of women feel!” 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8587331
Sweet-tea February 21 Share February 21 (edited) 16 hours ago, kristen111 said: Is Shep for real? He’s making a damn fool of himself texting his heart out to Sienna or whatever her name is. She is so not into him. What a jerk. Karma is a Bitch after what you’ve done to Taylor. You used her up and spit her out. This plays as fake to me. The guy doesn't seem dumb. He has to know he's being blown off. I don't believe he's as crazy as her as he says. I think he's milking this for a storyline. Taylor said he should date someone his age. Isn't she also a lot younger? Molly, Occum's Razor. It's not a migraine. It's the two bottles of champagne you drank. 16 hours ago, kristen111 said: Boy, for a Wife and Mother, Madison sure gets around. lol. She's the new Cameran, big sister to cast... except she's the low rent version. 16 hours ago, bosawks said: I don’t think I have ever agreed with Craig and Austen about anything but then Shep’s text happened… I know! Austen was dead on. I was cringing too. "Freckled lips"? Sheesh. Is Craig back to drinking? I thought I saw him order a Bud Light. 11 hours ago, aghst said: So why after all this time is he suppose to be so head over heels? He’s never shown himself to be vulnerable or emotionally open. He’s not some naive, inexperienced boy. And this is a damn realty show, which is known for false narratives. It’s such an abrupt change from his persona of the previous 9 seasons that it’s just not credible that he’s swooning like a school boy. Plus she’s not even all that, doesn’t come close to the most attractive women who’ve been on the show and her evasive, cold personality also doesn’t merit him making such a big deal about her. ITA. Fake, fake, fake. Edited February 21 by Sweet-tea 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8587474
aghst February 21 Share February 21 (edited) In the media thread, someone posted the truth. Whitney and Shep contacted Sienna, not her contacting them, as they claimed on the show. Basically they scouted her to pursue this fake heartbreak story line. Probably Bravo told them that they have to come up with some interesting stories or else they wouldn't shoot another season. So they pursued her to make her a fake love interest. But why? What's in it for Shep? Does he really need this show? Maybe after 9-10 seasons, it's significant money to him, even though he's financially independent from his family wealth. Craig really needs the show to continue since his side businesses all derive from his exposure on the show. So he's been harvesting his fake relationship too. At least they're about to end that charade as well. https://tenor.com/vNvz.gif Edited February 21 by aghst 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8587495
Back Atcha February 21 Share February 21 20 hours ago, tranquilidade said: I've been waiting for Paige to drop the bomb on Craig for a long time it was so clear she was not that into him. He is also a liar and tried to get JT roasted because he wanted to break up his friendships and drive him off. Craig is a unique kind of crazy, not like the others but just as bad It's nice to read occasional comments about Craig that make sense. There's so much (difficult to understand) LOVE for him here and on other boards. Craig has been a selfish, insecure self-absorbed liar/bad friend since he was first introduced to us. Paige must have seen potential; she stayed with him longer than most...but she did see improvement (at her hands). How many shows will we have to watch where Craig (metaphorically) pouts and then (metaphorically) stomps off. Sometimes it's literally. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8587657
Mr. Miner February 21 Share February 21 The chemistry between Sienna and Shep is explosive! 🧨 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8587689
dancingdreamer February 22 Share February 22 7 hours ago, aghst said: In the media thread, someone posted the truth. Whitney and Shep contacted Sienna, not her contacting them, as they claimed on the show. Basically they scouted her to pursue this fake heartbreak story line. Probably Bravo told them that they have to come up with some interesting stories or else they wouldn't shoot another season. So they pursued her to make her a fake love interest. But why? What's in it for Shep? Does he really need this show? Maybe after 9-10 seasons, it's significant money to him, even though he's financially independent from his family wealth. Craig really needs the show to continue since his side businesses all derive from his exposure on the show. So he's been harvesting his fake relationship too. At least they're about to end that charade as well. https://tenor.com/vNvz.gif Didn't Sienna say this was her grandmother favorite show, now she doesn't know who Shep is? Odd. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8587830
ZettaK February 22 Author Share February 22 16 hours ago, aghst said: In the media thread, someone posted the truth. Whitney and Shep contacted Sienna, not her contacting them, as they claimed on the show. Basically they scouted her to pursue this fake heartbreak story line. Probably Bravo told them that they have to come up with some interesting stories or else they wouldn't shoot another season. So they pursued her to make her a fake love interest. But why? What's in it for Shep? Does he really need this show? Maybe after 9-10 seasons, it's significant money to him, even though he's financially independent from his family wealth. Craig really needs the show to continue since his side businesses all derive from his exposure on the show. So he's been harvesting his fake relationship too. At least they're about to end that charade as well. https://tenor.com/vNvz.gif They didn’t necessarily pursue her for a fake relationship. Guys make the first move often, and it seems judging by her personality that she wouldn't run after them. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8588001
1011101010001 February 22 Share February 22 22 hours ago, Sweet-tea said: Is Craig back to drinking? I thought I saw him order a Bud Light. Supposedly Shep drinks only beer and wine after his Vegas blackout but he ordered an espresso martini. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8588135
Sweet-tea February 22 Share February 22 2 hours ago, 1011101010001 said: Supposedly Shep drinks only beer and wine after his Vegas blackout but he ordered an espresso martini. Do you mean Step or Craig? I was referring to Craig drinking again. He had stopped. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8588225
Back Atcha February 22 Share February 22 3 minutes ago, Sweet-tea said: I was referring to Craig drinking again. He had stopped. Hmmm...someone commented that Craig looked "doughy," maybe he has started drinking again. 7 hours ago, ZettaK said: So they pursued her to make her a fake love interest. But why? What's in it for Shep? Does he really need this show? If it was planned and "fake," I think it backfired. Shep seems really affected, and I don't think he's that good an actor. Shep apparently "needs" to be on TV. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8588229
aghst February 22 Share February 22 Producers probably let Shep know that he needs to create some drama, probably encouraged her to make contact with Sienna. It wouldn't be the first time this show based a whole season on some social media event, like that video of Austen and Madison arguing when she supposedly caught him with two other women. They played that stupid video over and over again that season. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8588238
1011101010001 February 22 Share February 22 1 hour ago, Sweet-tea said: Do you mean Step or Craig? I was referring to Craig drinking again. He had stopped. Shep. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8588299
snarts February 22 Share February 22 1 hour ago, Sweet-tea said: Do you mean Step or Craig? I was referring to Craig drinking again. He had stopped. This season was filmed last Spring. While Craig had already cut back on partying, it wasn't until December that he shared that he was nearly sober, only having a drink or two every couple of months. Shep's the one who declared he was limiting himself to beer/wine at the S9 reunion after his BravoCon antics in late 2023. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8588327
ZettaK February 23 Author Share February 23 (edited) 5 hours ago, Back Atcha said: Hmmm...someone commented that Craig looked "doughy," maybe he has started drinking again. If it was planned and "fake," I think it backfired. Shep seems really affected, and I don't think he's that good an actor. Shep apparently "needs" to be on TV. Craig looks "puffy", especially his face, and it seems he gained some weight again. He said he drinks a lot less, not that he totally stopped drinking. ETA: I don't think Shep is such a good actor. He was not faking it. He liked the woman. He wanted it to be filmed because he is on a TV show after all, and because he wanted to prove something (how attractive he is, how desirable he is to young women). Edited February 23 by ZettaK 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8588416
aghst February 23 Share February 23 Well the story this season is that Craig is busy with his businesses and is all about domestic life with Paige. So instead of going out drinking with Austen and Shep he only wants to be in his backyard, skimming that pool. How is he gaining weight if he's living a more healthy, purposeful life? Maybe because this narrative was as fake as his relationship, as many of the relationships are on this show? 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8588418
Back Atcha February 23 Share February 23 5 hours ago, aghst said: Maybe because this narrative was as fake as his relationship, as many of the relationships are on this show? And...there's that "LIAR" reputation that he just can't shake (doesn't try to "shake" because he says he doesn't lie). 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8588562
swankie February 25 Share February 25 On 2/20/2025 at 9:31 PM, ZettaK said: Poor, delusional Shep. You can't force anybody to love you, or even like you because you're forcing yourself on them on tv. We now know why Sienna (I'm sure) dumped you. I about died when he told Austen that he told Sienna that he missed her and that she said, "I missed you too.", and the flashback showed her saying, "I'm sure you did". He is beyond delusional. 🤣 On 2/20/2025 at 9:38 PM, snarts said: Finally, Taylor seems way too involved/interested in Shep for someone who claims to be so happy with another guy. She's still pressed. The way she and Madison were laughing out loud at the table when they were questioning Sienna about her's and Shep's relationship was so disrespectful. I'm sure Sienna was probably thinking, "What the hell is their problem?" And who grills someone's new love interest like that after only having met them one other time months before? It's not like they're Shep's family. They just did it to be messy. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8590412
swankie February 25 Share February 25 On 2/21/2025 at 5:34 PM, Back Atcha said: It's nice to read occasional comments about Craig that make sense. To me Craig always looks like he hasn't bathed in a week. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8590416
Back Atcha February 25 Share February 25 10 hours ago, swankie said: To me Craig always looks like he hasn't bathed in a week. Even though she didn't see Craig in person that often, Paige made sure he kept up on his grooming. He lets himself (mostly his hair) go these days. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152004-s10e11-text-message-in-a-bottle/#findComment-8590661
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