Chit-Chat: The Feels

[peacheslatour]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

If those disgusting and morally bankrupt politicians hate the same people as the voters that is all that matters to them. Trump figured that out and it spread like wildfire.  

I saw an interview with one of his supporters when the  pandemic started and the interviewer asked how she thought Trump was doing and she said and I'll never forget this, she said "I thought he was going to do good things. He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting." 

[Annber03]

35 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I saw an interview with one of his supporters when the  pandemic started and the interviewer asked how she thought Trump was doing and she said and I'll never forget this, she said "I thought he was going to do good things. He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting." 

But remember, everyohne, Trump supposedly won in 2016 because of "economic anxiety"!

Did that interviewer press her to specify which people she was referring to? They want to say this shit, put them on the record. 

[Lantern7]

Thinking about it, I just want to live a life where I don't feel compelled to wonder whose ass needs to be kicked first.

[Yeah No]

9 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

Yes. We need to concentrate more on what brings us together than what tears us apart.  Highlight the things people like and fight for those.  The ACA, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security.  And if once Trump's policies take effect if they turn out to be bad hammer him for it.   Start thinking about the midterms now.  Start recruiting candidates that can win.

I have been calling for this here for weeks. We have to pull together and continue the fight like Kamala said. No sense in continuing to blame each other. And yes, the midterms offer us some hope, so we should concentrate on that in just that way!

9 hours ago, Dimity said:

Traditionally the mid terms don't go well for the incumbent and let's face it Trump doesn't care what happens because he's a one term president from the get go.  And also because he never has cared about the good of the country only about what's good for Donald Trump.  That said I predict he's going to go do as much damage as he can and it will be republican seats that will pay the price in the mid terms.  It's going to be a long two years but I do see a glimmer of light.

This is exactly what my friend in local politics is saying and bless him for it because it has given me a glimmer of hope. Only two years, let's focus on that. He has talked me "off the ledge" a few times by bringing this up. If the House flips it can thwart some of his plans. We have to hope for that.

9 hours ago, Eri said:

Unfortunately, he could still be elected President again even if he were in prison serving time for a felony, the law allows that. Because the Constitution makes no mention of criminal records, a person indicted or convicted of a felony would not be barred from serving in the role so long as he or she meets the other requirements.

Perhaps, but at least there is the term limit that a president can't be elected more than twice to serve as president. THANK GOODNESS for that!

ETA: And my political friend says it would take Trump too long and he would not necessarily be successful at changing that rule anyway.

I do worry about Trump still controlling things behind the scenes after he's out of office. He has too many minions willing to do his bidding and continue his damage to our country.

8 hours ago, kittykat said:

I would totally say let's go to the Capitol on Jan 5 and deliberately be peaceful.  Go out and say "while we hate the results of this election we are not going to throw a temper tantrum, apologies to Vice President Harris for having to certify her own defeat but we stand with you all while Democracy is upheld *muttered breath* for now."

I love this idea. I think so many of us feel so defeated that this would help our spirits to keep up the fight and not give up.

6 hours ago, Eri said:

I too am missing the time period in this country where if you got caught in a scandal, (especially one that proves you're unfit for your position) the only choice would be to resign with dignity. This new wave of politicians are outright disgusting and morally bankrupt and they keep pushing the threshold on how much lower they can sink. I cannot believe voters are willing to accept this type of behavior from legislators 😒

That is so true, and so sad. Trump set a bad precedent. But I'm trying to keep it positive lately in that it's obvious that while Trump is Teflon, most if not all other politicians, even Republicans are not and many have not gotten away with half of what he has. We can only hope that with him not in power things might go back to some semblance of normalcy in the Republican party, although I worry about that because it has now become the party of Trump and with him in the White House for a second term they will only sink lower and become more morally bankrupt and that's not going to change overnight even after he's out of office. 

Edited November 27, 2024 by Yeah No

[fastiller]

12 hours ago, Eri said:

I too am missing the time period in this country where if you got caught in a scandal, (especially one that proves you're unfit for your position) the only choice would be to resign with dignity. 

Oh, to go back to 1974 when in one year four world leaders resigned for just that reason (general unfitness to lead): 

• Golda Meir (Israel - Yom Kippur War fallout)
• Willy Brandt (West Germany - one of his closest advisers -Günter Guillaume- turned out to be an East German spy)
• Richard Nixon (US - no further explanation needed, I think)
• Kakuei Tanaka (Japan - allegations of corruption)

Edited November 27, 2024 by fastiller

[bluegirl147]

11 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

I saw an interview with one of his supporters when the  pandemic started and the interviewer asked how she thought Trump was doing and she said and I'll never forget this, she said "I thought he was going to do good things. He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting." 

I would see interviews of people at Trump rallies and they would always show the dumb people. The people you would laugh at.  But they never showed the people you referred to @peacheslatour.  The media should have shown them but instead they wanted people to think his base is just ignorant.  Not hateful.

10 hours ago, Annber03 said:

But remember, everyohne, Trump supposedly won in 2016 because of "economic anxiety"!

They always used that term when referring to white voters. Usually blue collar and not college educated.  So people of color didn't have economic anxiety?

6 hours ago, Yeah No said:

I do worry about Trump still controlling things behind the scenes after he's out of office.

He has to die at some point right?

The president of Mexico Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo has floated the idea of tariffs on American goods.  We know Trump is intimidated by strong women.  Let's see how he deals with this.

[fastiller]

10 hours ago, Annber03 said:

But remember, everyone, Trump supposedly won in 2016 because of "economic anxiety"!

 

=&=

3 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

They always used that term when referring to white voters. Usually blue collar and not college educated.  So people of color didn't have economic anxiety?

He has to die at some point right?

And @bluegirl147 - the college educated also have economic anxiety: those loans don't clear themselves and cannot be written down by bankruptcy.

Also, yes he does have to die at some point, but Trumpism is here to stay, I fear.  

[bluegirl147]

3 minutes ago, fastiller said:

but Trumpism is here to stay, I fear.  

I think it weakens though.  He is the cult leader.  When a cult leader dies the cult might stay together but without the leader it's not the same. He is a cult of personality.  If someone else had espoused the policies concepts of plans he does they wouldn't have gotten any traction. Trump and his base have a toxic co dependent relationship.  His base wants hateful cruel policies for people they don't like and he agrees with that so he does it.  He wants harmful tariffs because he is an idiot and his base agrees with it even though it will hurt them.

 

11 minutes ago, fastiller said:

And @bluegirl147 - the college educated also have economic anxiety: those loans don't clear themselves and cannot be written down by bankruptcy.

True but that doesn't fit the media's narrative that has insisted on giving cover to white Trump supporters who vote for him because he hates the same people they do.  I'm a white voter who doesn't make a lot of money and I have economic anxiety when Republicans are in charge.  And it has been that way my entire life.

[Ohiopirate02]

19 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

They always used that term when referring to white voters. Usually blue collar and not college educated.  So people of color didn't have economic anxiety?

He has to die at some point right?

The whole economic anxiety thing is truly about who is supposed to have it and who's supposed to be able to sleep comfortably in their warm bed at night knowing they have enough money to pay the bills, put food on the table, send their kids to college, and still manage a vacation or two a year. People of color fall into the former while white people middle class and higher are the latter.

 

Last Friday I did a cemetery tour in New Orleans where we visited Marie Laveau's grave. I was tempted to leave an offering to speed things up. I did not because apparently you have to mark the grave and spin around 3 times while pleading your case, and I was with a full tour group plus guide and my mother.

[bluegirl147]

9 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

The whole economic anxiety thing is truly about who is supposed to have it and who's supposed to be able to sleep comfortably in their warm bed at night knowing they have enough money to pay the bills, put food on the table, send their kids to college, and still manage a vacation or two a year. People of color fall into the former while white people middle class and higher are the latter.

You are right.  There is this belief with some people that if all those "others" are doing better then that means  other white people are doing worse. I always think of one of Vacation movies where it is asked if Cousin Eddie was still looking for a job and the response is he is holding out for a management position.  That sums up a lot of MAGA people.  It is also why we hear people label people of color who have white collar jobs as DEI hires.  We heard it said about Harris and SCOTUS Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson.

[Guest]

14 hours ago, Eri said:

I too am missing the time period in this country where if you got caught in a scandal, (especially one that proves you're unfit for your position) the only choice would be to resign with dignity. This new wave of politicians are outright disgusting and morally bankrupt and they keep pushing the threshold on how much lower they can sink. I cannot believe voters are willing to accept this type of behavior from legislators 😒

When was this mythical time? pre- Bill Clinton, and his various sex scandals. pre-Reagan and Iran-contra and rumors he was showing signs of what eventually became Alzheimer's.  or when the media hid JFK sex scandals, no, wait.  maybe pre- Woodrow Wilson's stroke..

But to be fair, this is not an insignificant factor in why Trump won.

Biden was elected despite already showing signs of mental decline. The media tried to hide it and I know people willfully ignorant enough to ignore it to the point that someone looked at me like I was actually insane to say that what they were doing to Biden seemed a lot like elder abuse the afternoon before the debate. 

I've been watching podcasts by Democrat officials and media, lamenting the lack of a primary when it was known Biden was cognitively impaired, siting that time a Congressional delegation met with him a few years ago, or a variety of interviews and speeches. 

Kamala Harris should have been the 47th President of the United States.  That should have happened by her doing one of the only things that it was her duty to do.  Enacting the 25th amendment to remove Biden from office. 

Now I don't know if this didn't happen because she lacked moral courage or she knew she couldn't mount enough political capital to get a majority of support to do the right thing.  I suspect there was a lot of fear about what would come out if the party had to go through 25th amendment process.

But that meant Harris had three months where she had to convince me that a bunch of people who hadn't been doing the right thing for the country for four years, would do the right thing for the country in the next four years.  She failed.

I sit here in the middle where 1) I despise the elites in the Democratic party who have abandoned the working class and who do not care one bit for anything but their own pocketbooks and power and 2)  I'm kind of scared spitless about how much pain will come along with the changes Trump and team are trying to make and don't really 100% trust their motives.

Great choices, huh.  I would love it if some Democratic leaders would walk out of the cesspool they inhabit, wipe off the muck and provide some better options than those we have.

Wouldn't it be nice to have an election where 50% of America wasn't convinced the world would end in the next four years if the other side won.

Edited November 27, 2024 by ParadoxLost

[Dimity]

17 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

Biden was elected despite already showing signs of mental decline. The media tried to hide it and I know people willfully ignorant enough to ignore it to the point that someone looked at me like I was actually insane to say that what they were doing to Biden seemed a lot like elder abuse the afternoon before the debate. 

Mental decline?  Because he is over 80 and sometimes acts it?  I disagree.  Trump has shown strong signs of dementia for years and yet the media sanewashed him to the point where him swaying at a podium for half an hour or endlessly talking about a dead man's penis was considered normal.  Normal for Trump.   I don't disagree that at their ages the pressures of the presidency may be too much but that applies even more to Trump than it ever has to Biden.  But as usual one rule for Trump and another for everyone else.

[Yeah No]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

He has to die at some point right?

You know that only the good die young, right? He'll probably live to be 100. 😏

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

I think it weakens though.  He is the cult leader.  When a cult leader dies the cult might stay together but without the leader it's not the same. He is a cult of personality.  If someone else had espoused the policies concepts of plans he does they wouldn't have gotten any traction. Trump and his base have a toxic co dependent relationship.  His base wants hateful cruel policies for people they don't like and he agrees with that so he does it.  He wants harmful tariffs because he is an idiot and his base agrees with it even though it will hurt them.

You took the words right out of my mouth. I have been saying much the same myself. It is toxic codependence and he is also akin to a messiah for a lot of his base so no one else can fill his shoes. And he is exploiting his power to control these people's minds. Thankfully we are finding out that even people he endorses aren't made of the same Teflon he is and that's a good thing.

Again, the parallels to Hitler keep coming back. Although I do wonder whether after WWII if not for the total takedown of Naziism the party could have continued without Hitler if there was no intervention to stop them. Republicans may try to continue with Trumpism but without that central unifying figure they may not get very far and saner, less extreme minds might eventually prevail in the party to bring it back closer to what it was before. I still wouldn't agree with their politics but they may not be quite as bad as now. Without the cult of Trump the party will have to worry more about attracting people and so a move back closer to the middle might be possible. We hope! (Again I'm trying to be positive!)

[Avaleigh]

10 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Mental decline?  Because he is over 80 and sometimes acts it?  I disagree.  Trump has shown strong signs of dementia for years and yet the media sanewashed him to the point where him swaying at a podium for half an hour or endlessly talking about a dead man's penis was considered normal.  Normal for Trump.   I don't disagree that at their ages the pressures of the presidency may be too much but that applies even more to Trump than it ever has to Biden.  But as usual one rule for Trump and another for everyone else.

Genuine question: I keep reading this claim that the media "sane washed" Trump, and I'm curious which media outlets you're referring to?

Obviously stuff like Fox and OAN and maybe the WSJ is pro-Trump, but beyond that I feel like the news outlets I read are pretty reliable about calling him out for everything under the sun including his physical and mental health. Axios, Politico, the Atlantic, etc have all done a great job of being very straightforward forward about who Trump is, why he's dangerous, why he is unfit, etc. I don't watch much news, I prefer to read it, but I did check out CNN in the month run up to the election and don't recall them "sane washing" Trump (or some of the people they got on there to promote Trump during the run up to the election.) I also appreciate the media outlets who fact check him, and the people who shill for him, at every opportunity. 

Since he's won I've listened and read to people chiming in on why they feel the Democrats lost and everyone seems pretty clear on all of the factors that make Trump unfit for office. 

I don't watch any of the big 4 networks, so I couldn't say what their coverage of him has been like.

[Ohiopirate02]

13 minutes ago, Avaleigh said:

Genuine question: I keep reading this claim that the media "sane washed" Trump, and I'm curious which media outlets you're referring to?

I don't watch any of the big 4 networks, so I couldn't say what their coverage of him has been like.

This is why you have not seen any of the sane-washing of Trump nor the differences between how they reported on Trump versus Biden back in May-July. After the first debate, NBC news went hard on Biden and whether or not he's fit for office and completely ignored everything outrageous Trump said and did during that time period. I believe both ABC and CBS followed suit, but I do not normally watch them.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

This is why you have not seen any of the sane-washing of Trump nor the differences between how they reported on Trump versus Biden back in May-July. After the first debate, NBC news went hard on Biden and whether or not he's fit for office and completely ignored everything outrageous Trump said and did during that time period. I believe both ABC and CBS followed suit, but I do not normally watch them.

I don't think its reasonable to characterize that as sane washing of Trump.  You describe a period where the Democratic party was focused on swapping out candidates to one they thought stood a better chance of winning.  

Thats more like saying the media is the dog in the movie 'Up' and someone shouted 'squirrel'.

Different example?

[bluegirl147]

NBC always handled Trump with kid gloves.  Remember Matt Lauer's softball interview with him?  Don't know if it was because Trump had the Apprentice on NBC or what but they never covered him accurately. 

Back in 2016 he got so much free air time from networks, cable and TV, who would just show an empty stage waiting for him to appear.  The media would cover his rallies, interviewing rally goers.  I don't think I ever saw them interview Clinton, Biden or Harris rally goers. Even online media would cover Clinton, Biden and Harris in a negative way.  Hillary's emails were mentioned literally thousands of times. They were talked about more than Trump's Access Hollywood tape.  And yes Biden's age was talked about. Trump's was rarely mentioned.  The media kept saying voter's didn't know anything about Harris's policies never mentioning the policies she clearly had laid out. 

And now we have Musk saying you (meaning X users) are the media now.  God help us all.

 

[Dimity]

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Yes.  That is what every election seems to be now.

[bluegirl147]

12 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

Yes.  That is what every election seems to be now.

We need better candidates. But until we get money out of politics that isn't going to happen.

[peacheslatour]

The Trump voters are feeling sorry themselves after Trump won, but they are mad when their family is telling them to fuck off after Trump won because Trump sucks.

They do want it both ways. They want to gloat that Trump won, but they want everyone to love them still, even though they support a rapist. This guy has another message that I can't find where he says the third daughter has now cancelled and he just can't figure it out.

 

 

[bluegirl147]

5 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

The Trump voters are feeling sorry themselves after Trump won, but they are mad when their family is telling them to fuck off after Trump won because Trump sucks.

They do want it both ways. They want to gloat that Trump won, but they want everyone to love them still, even though they support a rapist. This guy has another message that I can't find where he says the third daughter has now cancelled and he just can't figure it out.

 

 

Love how he says "he let them vote how they wish".  That was mighty big of him.

[fastiller]

34 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Love how he says "he let them vote how they wish".  That was mighty big of him.

I keyed in on that immediately, too.  Yuck! 

[Dimity]

Love too how he claimed his daughters were "mislead by propaganda".  Talking frankly about Project 2025 is propaganda? 

[Yeah No]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

Back in 2016 he got so much free air time from networks, cable and TV, who would just show an empty stage waiting for him to appear.  The media would cover his rallies, interviewing rally goers.  I don't think I ever saw them interview Clinton, Biden or Harris rally goers. Even online media would cover Clinton, Biden and Harris in a negative way.  Hillary's emails were mentioned literally thousands of times. They were talked about more than Trump's Access Hollywood tape.  And yes Biden's age was talked about. Trump's was rarely mentioned.  The media kept saying voter's didn't know anything about Harris's policies never mentioning the policies she clearly had laid out. 

And now we have Musk saying you (meaning X users) are the media now.  God help us all.

I can only report on how this issue struck me based on watching the big networks in both 2016, 2020 and 2024, and my impression was that after the 2016 election the media (other than Fox News, which didn't care what anyone thought) was widely criticized by Republicans for being openly anti-Trump and pro-Clinton in 2016, especially after the election, so as a part of the media's soul-searching in reaction to that criticism they decided to try to appear less biased and more neutral in their reporting and political analysis. So I really noticed during the 2024 campaign that they pulled back on featuring Harris's positives and Trump's negatives, which made some people think they were deliberately favoring Trump. It even bothered me that after this election, once all the reactions and political analyses were over, the press all but stopped focusing on Trump's negatives and started to report him neutrally like any other president. So I can see the reasoning behind the claims of "sanewashing" him. But why they should care what Republicans think I don't know except that they didn't want to "descend to their level". I sometimes think they went too far in the opposite direction and overcompensated, which made it look like they were supporting Trump. 

Now mind you, some of the stuff they reported around the time right after the Biden/Trump debate was caused by the fact that many Democrats were calling for Biden to step down, so to some degree they were just reporting the facts. But it did look like the NYT in particular was jumping on that bandwagon and pushing for that itself in several editorials. And to be honest, that pissed me off because I didn't think they should be doing that. And at the same time they weren't also pushing for Trump to step down based on his age and increasingly wacko comments, which they barely discussed.

Just my impressions, I'm sure others might not have seen it the way I did.

[Dimity]

2 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

And at the same time they weren't also pushing for Trump to step down based on his age and increasingly wacko comments, which they barely discussed.

The only reason I was even aware of most of the extreme crap about Trump was because of the late night shows like Colbert and Seth Meyers and from places like MSNBC and Huffpost.  I'd read about him performing fellatio on a microphone and look for that in the mainstream news and it was like they had all made an agreement not to  post the 'wacko' stuff.  Biden mispronounces something though and it's front page news.

[bluegirl147]

5 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

So I really noticed during the 2024 campaign that they pulled back on featuring Harris's positives and Trump's negatives, which made some people think they were deliberately favoring Trump

Not presenting Trump as the clear and present danger that he is definitely favored Trump.  They have always cut  him slack. Going back to the 80s.  He was a blowhard then and he is a blowhard now.  And the media has always acted like he is just a character.  He gets them clicks and ratings.  There have been some journalists who  have asked him serious questions and pressed him when he wasn't forthcoming.  But overall he is always given a pass. He continues to break laws and nobody does anything about it.  He never released his tax returns. He never stepped back from running his businesses no matter what  he says.  I mean do we really believe he lets Dumb and Dumber run things? He has personally profited from his time in office. He insults Gold Star families. He insults our service men and women.  He is dumb as a stump and the media just rolls with it. 

[peacheslatour]

 I'd read about him performing fellatio on a microphone and look for that in the mainstream news and it was like they had all made an agreement not to  post the 'wacko' stuff.  Biden mispronounces something though and it's front page news.

I couldn't find a GIF but this is him doing it.

 

 

[bluegirl147]

12 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I'd read about him performing fellatio on a microphone and look for that in the mainstream news and it was like they had all made an agreement not to  post the 'wacko' stuff.  Biden mispronounces something though and it's front page news.

And that is what is so frustrating.  The media showed every clip of Biden tripping or misspeaking. But with Trump if he spelled every word correctly in his Truth Social posts the media was all over it acting like he cured cancer or something.  The bar for Biden and then Harris was ridiculously high and the bar for Trump was ridiculously low.

[Yeah No]

14 minutes ago, Dimity said:

The only reason I was even aware of most of the extreme crap about Trump was because of the late night shows like Colbert and Seth Meyers and from places like MSNBC and Huffpost.  I'd read about him performing fellatio on a microphone and look for that in the mainstream news and it was like they had all made an agreement not to  post the 'wacko' stuff.  Biden mispronounces something though and it's front page news.

Yes, same here. I think I saw that on the Daily Show or Real Time with Bill Maher. The actual clip of that part of his rally was shown. I saw it hinted at on CNN on a round table discussion but I never saw it reported on the news.

[Spartan Girl]

2 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

We need better candidates. But until we get money out of politics that isn't going to happen.

We had good candidates. The problem is that apparently some people wouldn’t know a good candidate if they stood in front front of them.

The aggrieved Trump voters can’t accept the fact that the family members have finally seen them for the assholes they are.

Edited November 27, 2024 by Spartan Girl

[PRgal]

Someone on CNN was saying how Elon is the way he is because he's insecure.  Trump is insecure as well, but Elon even more so.  

[peacheslatour]

Just now, PRgal said:

Someone on CNN was saying how Elon is the way he is because he's insecure.  Trump is insecure as well, but Elon even more so.  

And they both have egos the size of the Grand Canyon. It will be interesting in kind of a horrifying way when their egos finally clash.

[anony.miss]

3 hours ago, Avaleigh said:

 

I did check out CNN in the month run up to the election and don't recall them "sane washing" Trump

This New Republic article addresses how the media sanewashed Trump, including CNN (the text referenced here is his crazy MANY CAPS rant about the debate terms):

"CNN described that rambling, insult-laden, conspiracy-riddled wall of text—itself a pretty good example of what he spends his time off the campaign trail doing—by writing, “Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced he has ‘reached an agreement’ to participate in a September 10 debate with Vice President Kamala Harris, noting that ‘the rules will be the same as the last CNN debate, which seemed to work out well for everyone.’”

Does that really capture what Trump posted?"

https://newrepublic.com/article/185530/media-criticism-trump-sanewashing-problem

You mentiond reading The Atlantic - they (to their credit) also reported on the sanewashing of Trump, Including how Trump's incoherent rant about sharks was covered by much of the media:

"...The Associated Press headline on a story about the event read this way: “Trump Complains About His Teleprompters at a Scorching Las Vegas Rally.” The New York Times headlined its story thus: “In Las Vegas, Trump Appeals to Local Workers and Avoids Talk of Conviction.” CNN’s headline: “Trump Proposes Eliminating Taxes on Tips at Las Vegas Campaign Rally.”... the public should have been informed, above everything else, that a former and possibly future president went on a ludicrous, illiterate rant about sharks and batteries, a rant that calls into question not only his fitness for office but his basic cognitive abilities."

https://archive.ph/ar5BG#selection-971.340-979.422

There are several other pieces about Trump being sanewashed available on line - these are just a couple.

Edited November 27, 2024 by anony.miss

[Dimity]

8 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

And they both have egos the size of the Grand Canyon. It will be interesting in kind of a horrifying way when their egos finally clash.

I have heard him described as "the First Lady" and as the "real Vice President".  Neither role is one Musk would want.  No way are these two alpha males going to remain best buds for long.   I just hope someone is around with a camera when it all blows up.

[PRgal]

2 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I have heard him described as "the First Lady" and as the "real Vice President".  Neither role is one Musk would want.  No way are these two alpha males going to remain best buds for long.   I just hope someone is around with a camera when it all blows up.

I say the bromance will last a year, max.  

[Dimity]

2 minutes ago, PRgal said:

I say the bromance will last a year, max.  

Yep.  The minute some of his policies have real consequences that he thinks are negative to him he's going to have to blame someone.  His last administration was a revolving door, I don't think this one will be any different.

[Palimelon]

If only America was more like Julia Sugarbaker back in the day.

 

[Lantern7]

I did something today. I was waiting on a light, and I saw a Cybertruck getting ready to turn. I waited, waited a little more, rolled down my window and yelled “ASSHOLE!” at the driver.

That’s not good of me, is it? I’m guessing the person driving hears it all the time, but still . . .

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

I did something today. I was waiting on a light, and I saw a Cybertruck getting ready to turn. I waited, waited a little more, rolled down my window and yelled “ASSHOLE!” at the driver.

That’s not good of me, is it? I’m guessing the person driving hears it all the time, but still . . .

That is really not healthy to be feeling so much anger.  I hope you can find some peace.

[fastiller]

3 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

NBC always handled Trump with kid gloves.  Remember Matt Lauer's softball interview with him?  Don't know if it was because Trump had the Apprentice on NBC or what but they never covered him accurately. 

Back in 2016 he got so much free air time from networks, cable and TV, who would just show an empty stage waiting for him to appear.  The media would cover his rallies, interviewing rally goers.  I don't think I ever saw them interview Clinton, Biden or Harris rally goers. Even online media would cover Clinton, Biden and Harris in a negative way.  Hillary's emails were mentioned literally thousands of times. They were talked about more than Trump's Access Hollywood tape.  And yes Biden's age was talked about. Trump's was rarely mentioned.  The media kept saying voter's didn't know anything about Harris's policies never mentioning the policies she clearly had laid out. 

And now we have Musk saying you (meaning X users) are the media now.  God help us all.

 

What?  You want a return of the Fairness Doctrine?  

[Palimelon]

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That is really not healthy to be feeling so much anger.  I hope you can find some peace.

Yelling “ASSHOLE!” at the driver is a form of finding peace, maybe?

[Ohiopirate02]

29 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

I did something today. I was waiting on a light, and I saw a Cybertruck getting ready to turn. I waited, waited a little more, rolled down my window and yelled “ASSHOLE!” at the driver.

That’s not good of me, is it? I’m guessing the person driving hears it all the time, but still . . .

I would do that, but a very famous Youtuber lives in my area and has a fleet of Cybertrucks for himself and his team. I really do not want to inadvertently end up in one of his videos. 

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Palimelon said:

Yelling “ASSHOLE!” at the driver is a form of finding peace, maybe?

If it is, I find that sad and I don't think its going to work.

[bluegirl147]

17 minutes ago, fastiller said:

What?  You want a return of the Fairness Doctrine?  

Absolutely.  That contributed to the beginning of the right wing media apparatus. And crazy enough the vote from the FCC to repeal it was 4-0. Two Republicans and two Democrats.

 

[anony.miss]

9 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

If it is, I find that sad and I don't think its going to work.

People heal in different ways. Some of us need to release the anger, instead of sitting on it, some of us need to retreat and heal silently. (And some of us need to eat fifteen pounds of milk chocolate a day while watching old episodes of Another World while intermittently screaming, "I cannot fucking believe this happened again!" )

Edited November 27, 2024 by anony.miss

[bluegirl147]

4 minutes ago, anony.miss said:

(And some of us need to eat fifteen pounds of milk chocolate a day while watching old episodes of Another World while intermittently screaming, "I cannot fucking believe this happened again!" )

I've been watching Knots Landing.  And it does help.

[Palimelon]

And now I have the urge to search for "Best Abby Cunningham moments" videos on Youtube...

[bluegirl147]

1 minute ago, Palimelon said:

And now I have the urge to search for "Best Abby Cunningham moments" videos on Youtube...

The entire series streams on Plex and it's been great.

[peacheslatour]

Here is the latest list of books banned by Katy ISD in Texas, because God forbid we should teach kids, to think.

Here’s the list (so you don’t have to mess with the paywall):

‘A Clockwork Orange’

‘Oryx and Crake’

‘The Handmaid’s Tale’

“Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West,”

‘I Never’

‘Mammal’

‘A Clash of Kings’

‘I: New and Selected Poems’

‘The Kite Runner’

'Slaughterhouse- Five'

‘Jesus Land: A Memoir’

‘The Freedom Writers Diary’

‘Last Night at the Telegraph Club’

‘Lighter than my Shadow’

‘Nineteen Minutes’

‘Skin and Bones’

‘Sold’

‘Homegoing’

‘Living Dead Girl’

‘Skin’

‘Perfect’