Chit-Chat: The Feels

[Ohiopirate02]

21 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

It's just missing Rosalyn.

[bluegirl147]

3 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

It's just missing Rosalyn.

I was looking to see if she was in the pic.

If there is an afterlife I want to go to where Jimmy Carter is. Because I'm pretty sure that won't be where Trump ends up.

[peacheslatour]

5 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

It's just missing Rosalyn.

[Dimity]

9 hours ago, Anela said:

I could ask why Donald always needs money from his supporters, and turns rallies into a show on QVC. I’ve been told that he significantly increased his net worth, last year. 

Is Trump the only president who makes money off running for office and off being in office?  I mean obviously after they leave office many write books or hit the lecture tour.  That's a bit of a given.  But has anyone else who has held the office of president sold sneakers and bibles and so on and on? 

[Bookish Jen]

6 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Is Trump the only president who makes money off running for office and off being in office?  I mean obviously after they leave office many write books or hit the lecture tour.  That's a bit of a given.  But has anyone else who has held the office of president sold sneakers and bibles and so on and on? 

Campaign merch like hats, t-shirts, etc.? Sure. But I've never seen any President hawk tacky shit like bibles, sneakers, fake money, cologne, etc. But Trump could sell a jar of his farts, and the MAGA crowd would buy them...and then complain about not being able to buy gas and eggs.

And I can't link from my phone, but apparently Brett Ratner is making a documentary about Melania Trump for Amazon Prime. Excuse, but what has Melania Trump done to warrant a documentary?

[Dimity]

Trump Sees the U.S. as a ‘Disaster.’ The Numbers Tell a Different Story.  ;President Biden is bequeathing his successor a nation that by many measures is in good shape, even if voters remain unconvinced.

[bluegirl147]

55 minutes ago, Bookish Jen said:

Campaign merch like hats, t-shirts, etc.? Sure. But I've never seen any President hawk tacky shit like bibles, sneakers, fake money, cologne, etc. But Trump could sell a jar of his farts, and the MAGA crowd would buy them...and then complain about not being able to buy gas and eggs.

And I can't link from my phone, but apparently Brett Ratner is making a documentary about Melania Trump for Amazon Prime. Excuse, but what has Melania Trump done to warrant a documentary?

But wouldn't profits from campaign merch go towards campaign coffers?

I wish they would stop trying to make Melania happen.  She is never going to happen.  She is unlikable. And she doesn't care. She even told us that. She has a very limited appeal.  I don't even think most of MAGA gives one whit about her.

53 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Trump Sees the U.S. as a ‘Disaster.’ The Numbers Tell a Different Story.  ;President Biden is bequeathing his successor a nation that by many measures is in good shape, even if voters remain unconvinced.

A lot of voters remain unconvinced because Trump aided and abetted by the media has continuously told voters this country is a disaster.

Edited Sunday at 06:49 PM by bluegirl147

[bluegirl147]

5 minutes ago, Enigma X said:

Some of you are still here trying to fight the good fight instead of using the ignore function. Just like that orange dude, the attention is part of the point. I commend you. I am being very sincere.

I'm a blue girl in a red state.  I've been fighting the good fight for at least the past 25 yrs.  

Edited Sunday at 06:57 PM by bluegirl147

[Dimity]

4 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I'm a blue girl in a red state.  I've been fighting the good fight for at least the past 25 yrs.

I'm a liberal in a conservative area that will never change - even if the libs offered each and every one of them a tax free ride for the rest of their lives, hating the libs is their life.  I've learned to pick my battles and live to fight another day!

[Ohiopirate02]

15 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

But wouldn't profits from campaign merch go towards campaign coffers?

Yes, but it's pretty easy to funnel campaign money into the various Trump owned coffers. Have an event at one of his properties and the Trump company can make up a bill for the campaign to pay. Or Trump uses his personal jet to fly to another state for a rally and he sends a bill to the campaign for the flight. These bills can be padded as needed by Trump so his company profits. They will also get paid before any other campaign expenses. 

[Dimity]

5 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

Yes, but it's pretty easy to funnel campaign money into the various Trump owned coffers.

And this is what I will never understand about his supporters.  They would be the first to scream if they felt that a Dem, either as a candidate or as President, was profiting off his/her position.  Hell didn't it used to be the norm that a President stepped away from any business they were running or had any kind of role in when they took office?  Why did this change for Herr Trump? 

Edited Sunday at 07:20 PM by Dimity

[peacheslatour]

1 hour ago, Bookish Jen said:

Campaign merch like hats, t-shirts, etc.? Sure. But I've never seen any President hawk tacky shit like bibles, sneakers, fake money, cologne, etc. But Trump could sell a jar of his farts, and the MAGA crowd would buy them...and then complain about not being able to buy gas and eggs.

And I can't link from my phone, but apparently Brett Ratner is making a documentary about Melania Trump for Amazon Prime. Excuse, but what has Melania Trump done to warrant a documentary?

[bluegirl147]

1 minute ago, Dimity said:

And this is what I will never understand about his supporters.  They would be the first to scream if they felt that a Dem, either as a candidate or as President, was profiting off his/her position.  Hell didn't it used to be the norm that a President stepped away from any business they were running or hand any kind of role in when they took office?  Why did this change for Herr Trump? 

Because he refused to do it.  I mean he said Beavis and Butthead would run the business but those two couldn't run a lemonade stand. And like everything else Trump got away with it.

[Dimity]

Just now, bluegirl147 said:

And like everything else Trump got away with it.

Someday he will get his comeuppance.  I just hope it happens before he shuffles off this mortal coil.

[bluegirl147]

Just now, peacheslatour said:

She is an executive producer?  Sure she is.  That I'm sure is a vanity title and a way to justify whatever she is being paid and what she will receive on the back end. There is no way that film is going to make a profit.

[Spartan Girl]

Just now, Dimity said:

Someday he will get his comeuppance.  I just hope it happens before he shuffles off this mortal coil.

Someday when we finally see the breaking news we’ve all been waiting for, I will crank up the first opening chords of “No One Mourns the Wicked” on my stereo loud enough for the entire world to hear it. 

[Lantern7]

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

Trump Sees the U.S. as a ‘Disaster.’ The Numbers Tell a Different Story.  ;President Biden is bequeathing his successor a nation that by many measures is in good shape, even if voters remain unconvinced.

Does this quote work? “Things are good . . . but they can be better!” I think it works, but it’s from Wonder Woman 1984, and few people want to remember that.

9 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

Someday when we finally see the breaking news we’ve all been waiting for, I will crank up the first opening chords of “No One Mourns the Wicked” on my stereo loud enough for the entire world to hear it. 

Remember when Biden’s win was declared official? Ten times more celebration, at least. And his final resting place had better be secure, or else there will be folks dancing on it.

Oh, and “dancing” isn’t the verb I really want to use.

[anony.miss]

7 hours ago, Dimity said:

 Insurrection day has a nice ring to it.

Or the sequel to that awful day  - many MAGA voters are feeling enraged for having trusted Trump & Elon (they feel betrayed re: H1B visas) and they're posting on social media about the need to save MAGA from Trump  himself - some of them have even been trying to organize another January 6th, this time to stop Trump's certification.  I doubt it will happen (and hope it doesn't, as the country doesn't need yet another round of killing and violence from Trump voters) but it's a sign of the volatile instability of the MAGA movement. They loved him; now they hate him; over one issue.  One. Issue. We already know Trump's a criminal and a charlatan, but what happens when millions of MAGA see the Trump Tariffs blowing their wallets apart? What happens when mass deportation leads to higher food costs? What happens when the majority of MAGA realize what the first adopter MAGA are currently coming to grips with - Trump's nothing but a con man who lied to get their vote, and has no intention of helping anybody but his billionaire friends.  That's what's on my mind these days; not just Trump and his hunger to destroy America and sell her off to the highest bidder, but the mounting anger of his betrayed MAGA base.

Edited Sunday at 07:58 PM by anony.miss

[bluegirl147]

16 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

Does this quote work? “Things are good . . . but they can be better!” I think it works, but it’s from Wonder Woman 1984, and few people want to remember that.

Remember when Biden’s win was declared official? Ten times more celebration, at least. And his final resting place had better be secure, or else there will be folks dancing on it.

Oh, and “dancing” isn’t the verb I really want to use.

I doubt he will want to be buried in Arlington. Not fancy enough for him. He probably wants a gold mausoleum

[peacheslatour]

3 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I doubt he will want to be buried in Arlington. Not fancy enough for him. He probably wants a gold mausoleum

He could be buried next to his first wife at his golf course in New Jersey.

[Lantern7]

11 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

He could be buried next to his first wife at his golf course in New Jersey.

Yeah, what the actual fuck. Was that her wish?

He’d have to be brought to Washington for viewing, right? You might get a crowd larger than Obama’s first inauguration for that . . . and isn’t that what our boy always wanted? 😈😈😈

[bluegirl147]

12 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

Yeah, what the actual fuck. Was that her wish?

He’d have to be brought to Washington for viewing, right? You might get a crowd larger than Obama’s first inauguration for that . . . and isn’t that what our boy always wanted? 😈😈😈

I think presidents plan their funerals themselves. I think they do it while they are in office in case something happens. I remember when Reagan died I thought all the pomp and circumstance was (no pun intended)  overkill.  I think Nancy wanted all that.

Edited Sunday at 08:27 PM by bluegirl147

[annzeepark914]

I remember being appalled at all the traveling done for Ford's funeral. It felt like it would never end and I was concerned for his wife (who had her own health issues). 

I heard that Trump is planning to visit Arlington the day before inauguration. No idea why. Good thing the employee in charge of stuff like this will now have a bodyguard.

[Lisa418722]

2 hours ago, Dimity said:

Trump Sees the U.S. as a ‘Disaster.’ The Numbers Tell a Different Story.  ;President Biden is bequeathing his successor a nation that by many measures is in good shape, even if voters remain unconvinced.

That's what happened in 2017. President Obama left him a good economy and then Trump and the pandemic destroyed it.  Now President Biden has left him another good economy and he will take credit for how great the nation is doing again and his minions will believe it.  

[peacheslatour]

An oldie but a goodie.

[Dimity]

On another site a few people were debating the love felt for Carter vs Trump and someone said that Trump "wins".  I don't know what it is with this mindset that no matter what the issue someone has to win! 

Anyway it irritated me because I felt that they were missing the point.  Trump craves attention and applause and will say and do whatever it takes to get it as long as it benefits himself.  Carter, on the other hand, just got on with his life, did some good and won't be having any but the most mindless MAGA wanting to dance on his grave.

[bluegirl147]

I think people respected Carter after he was out of office. People don't respect Trump.  MAGA looks at him as their dear leader which isn't respect. It's more akin to blind loyalty.  And for people who don't like Trump their feelings range from pity to fear to outright hatred.   And I would be hard pressed to name a world leader who respects him.

[Dimity]

14 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I think people respected Carter after he was out of office. People don't respect Trump.

Also I don't think, hell, there are some things about which one can be positive - I am positive that 45 years from now when Trump is talked about it will not be in glowing terms.  There may be a few diehards still kicking around prepared to praise him but, yeah, honestly history will not be kind to Trump.

[bluegirl147]

45 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Also I don't think, hell, there are some things about which one can be positive - I am positive that 45 years from now when Trump is talked about it will not be in glowing terms.  There may be a few diehards still kicking around prepared to praise him but, yeah, honestly history will not be kind to Trump.

If Trump is not remembered as an absolute blight on this country the damage he does is going to be irreversible.

[Anela]

4 hours ago, Enigma X said:

Some of you are still here trying to fight the good fight instead of using the ignore function. Just like that orange dude, the attention is part of the point. I commend you. I am being very sincere.

 

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

On another site a few people were debating the love felt for Carter vs Trump and someone said that Trump "wins".  I don't know what it is with this mindset that no matter what the issue someone has to win! 

Anyway it irritated me because I felt that they were missing the point.  Trump craves attention and applause and will say and do whatever it takes to get it as long as it benefits himself.  Carter, on the other hand, just got on with his life, did some good and won't be having any but the most mindless MAGA wanting to dance on his grave.

I just think the fact that they are sore winners, two months on, shows insecurity, not confidence in their guy.  The fact that some of them have “trump won!!” flags in their gardens, and they keep needing to remind us, isn’t showing strength.  

[peacheslatour]

1 minute ago, Anela said:

 

I just think the fact that they are sore winners, two months on, shows insecurity, not confidence in their guy.  The fact that some of them have “trump won!!” flags in their gardens, and they keep needing to remind us, isn’t showing strength.  

I know. It's like you won, get over it!

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, peacheslatour said:

I know. It's like you won, get over it!

They remind me of my brother when he was 10 or so.  Such a poor sport, a lousy loser but even worse when he won.  Luckily he outgrew this.  Trump and the MAGA clearly have not.

[bluegirl147]

2 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I know. It's like you won, get over it!

I think a lot of Trump supporters are exactly like him.  They need constant validation that they are right.   

[tres bien]

Yes Jimmy Carter went on with his life after the 1980 election with dignity and grace.

Al Gore certified W’s election (under dubious circumstances)

But this guy couldn’t accept defeat like an adult, made an industry out of scamming Americans to prosper from their fixed incomes all the while lying and convincing enough people that’s it’s going to be all all puppy dogs and rainbows if they trust him again. He never did anything to earn anyone’s trust the first time. But whatever 

I picture him wanting to show up on January 20th wearing a red velvet robe with a sable collar and weak John Robert’s placing a crown on his head. Not so far fetched. Remember when he wanted to wear a Superman T shirt under his shirt so he could rip it open after he survived COVID. Or wanted a Bastille Day style parade

[peacheslatour]

31 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Yes Jimmy Carter went on with his life after the 1980 election with dignity and grace.

Al Gore certified W’s election (under dubious circumstances)

But this guy couldn’t accept defeat like an adult, made an industry out of scamming Americans to prosper from their fixed incomes all the while lying and convincing enough people that’s it’s going to be all all puppy dogs and rainbows if they trust him again. He never did anything to earn anyone’s trust the first time. But whatever 

I picture him wanting to show up on January 20th wearing a red velvet robe with a sable collar and weak John Robert’s placing a crown on his head. Not so far fetched. Remember when he wanted to wear a Superman T shirt under his shirt so he could rip it open after he survived COVID. Or wanted a Bastille Day style parade

Too bad for him, he doesn't study history. I think the rise and fall of Robespierre would stand as a warning.

[Calvada]

4 hours ago, annzeepark914 said:

I remember being appalled at all the traveling done for Ford's funeral. It felt like it would never end and I was concerned for his wife (who had her own health issues). 

I heard that Trump is planning to visit Arlington the day before inauguration. No idea why. Good thing the employee in charge of stuff like this will now have a bodyguard.

Ford's funeral did involve a lot of traveling since he was not buried where he and Betty were living at the time of his death.  She had to travel from California to Washington and then to Michigan where he was buried.  It was this time of year, so it was very cold in Washington, D.C. and in Michigan.  I remember when his casket was being carried into the US Capitol and the extended Ford family all took a couple steps to one side to form a bit of a wind break behind Betty, who was very frail.  I also remember when the funeral party arrived in Michigan, the University of Michigan band was there direct from the Rose Bowl (where Michigan lost by 2 touchdowns) and they played Hail to the Chief and Hail to the Victors, and all I could think was that all those kids in the band were probably so hung over!  

[peacheslatour]

To our Canadian friends - What the hell just happened?

[Dimity]

8 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

To our Canadian friends - What the hell just happened?

I haven't had the news on so googled quickly and are you meaning Trudeau supposed to resign?  Or did he do it?  Or something else?

If Trudeau it was inevitable.  And it sucks.  But here we are.

[peacheslatour]

5 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I haven't had the news on so googled quickly and are you meaning Trudeau supposed to resign?  Or did he do it?  Or something else?

If Trudeau it was inevitable.  And it sucks.  But here we are.

Why?

[Dimity]

Just now, peacheslatour said:

Why?

Trudeau has been incredibly unpopular in recent years and it's just gotten worse as the Cons have convinced far too many people that Trudeau is personally responsible for rising house and grocery prices.  Sound familiar?

[annzeepark914]

9 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Trudeau has been incredibly unpopular in recent years and it's just gotten worse as the Cons have convinced far too many people that Trudeau is personally responsible for rising house and grocery prices.  Sound familiar?

What the heck is going on with people? Are they too lazy to follow what their govt officials are doing (or not doing, especially for them)? 

[Dimity]

5 minutes ago, annzeepark914 said:

What the heck is going on with people? Are they too lazy to follow what their govt officials are doing (or not doing, especially for them)? 

Not unlike the US many of our news sources are very right wing and they've had it in for Trudeau since he entered politics.  In fairness he's had his missteps but it's just crazy that the Liberals are the ones who have put forward some significant pluses to the social safety net but that gets totally handwaved away.   Often by the very people who have benefited from them the most.  But yeah, life is going to be peaches and cream under the Cons (to give you some idea, their leader was recently interviewed by Jordan Peterson).

It's like we are learning nothing from what has been happening down south.

Edited Monday at 04:08 AM by Dimity

[peacheslatour]

17 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Trudeau has been incredibly unpopular in recent years and it's just gotten worse as the Cons have convinced far too many people that Trudeau is personally responsible for rising house and grocery prices.  Sound familiar?

It sure does. Holy hell.

[Lantern7]

Sounds like that wall at the Mexican border is going up . . . to prevent Americans and Canadians from crossing over.

I don't have any new reflections. I want to post what I'd say to Trump and his acolytes, but that would get me in trouble and I like it here. Instead, here's a scene from The Boondocks where Riley Freeman straight-up roasts a British guy. Warning: there is cursing and slurs. I'm posting it because it's the general vibe in my heart whenever I think about tomorrow and two weeks after that. Oh, and I can't embed it directly, so I posted the link above.

Bonus: A sign honoring President Carter.

Edited Monday at 06:28 AM by Lantern7

[tearknee]

2 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

It sure does. Holy hell.

Leading the government and things are bad? the average voter blames *you*

[Soapy Goddess]

7 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

I know. It's like you won, get over it!

The same could be said to the far left. You lost, get over it! And take off the bubble wrap while you're at it.

[Anela]

5 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

The same could be said to the far left. You lost, get over it! And take off the bubble wrap while you're at it.

Most of the voters aren’t “far left”. Why isn’t trump considered a “has been” since he lost in 2020? Did trump supporters get over it in 2020? What did they do? How did they behave? Did they move on? No.. 

Edited Monday at 07:25 AM by Anela

[Soapy Goddess]

8 minutes ago, Anela said:

Most of the voters aren’t “far left”. Why isn’t trump considered a “has been” since he lost in 2020? Did trump supporters get over it in 2020? What did they do? How did they behave? Did they move on? No.. 

So what that he lost in 2020. The right doesn't believe that everyone should get a trophy. They got over it rather quickly. And they didn't have a "safe haven" to whine about it either on PT. In fact, politics were verboten.

[Lantern7]

8 hours ago, Anela said:

I just think the fact that they are sore winners, two months on, shows insecurity, not confidence in their guy.  The fact that some of them have “trump won!!” flags in their gardens, and they keep needing to remind us, isn’t showing strength.  

8 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

I know. It's like you won, get over it!

8 hours ago, Dimity said:

They remind me of my brother when he was 10 or so.  Such a poor sport, a lousy loser but even worse when he won.  Luckily he outgrew this.  Trump and the MAGA clearly have not.

8 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

I think a lot of Trump supporters are exactly like him.  They need constant validation that they are right.   

I see flags and signs as well. What would I like to say? “Your guy won. Lower the flag. I know, I’m a sad lib that got owned and you guys are the superior Americans, but leaving the signs and flags out is tacky AF. Did me and my kind leave out Obama stuff after 2008 and 2012? No. Take that shit down, put it somewhere safe, and you can show your grandchildren how you supported America shooting itself in the foot. Assuming any of us live that long, of course.”

Edited Monday at 07:45 AM by Lantern7

[Anela]

13 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

So what that he lost in 2020. The right doesn't believe that everyone should get a trophy. They got over it rather quickly. And they didn't have a "safe haven" to whine about it either on PT. In fact, politics were verboten.

They have tried to make this entire country their “safe space”. They didn’t get over it, we’ve heard about it constantly - especially in the form of lies about the election being stolen, and they attempted a coup four years ago, on this date.
 

He was prosecuted for crimes he committed, and his supporters claimed that Biden was just prosecuting his political enemies. We never got a break from him. If you think we’re so pathetic, why are you joining in, and complaining yourself? 

4 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

I see flags and signs as well. What would I like to say? “Your guy won. Lower the flag. I know, I’m a sad lib that got owned and you guys are the superior Americans, but leaving the signs and flags out is tacky AF. Did me and my kind leave out Obama stuff after 2008 and 2012? No. Take that shit down, put it somewhere safe, and you can show your grandchildren how you supported America shooting itself in the foot. Assuming any of us live that long, of course.”

My dad makes deliveries, and he mentioned one guy who has a number of trump flags and signs in his yard.  He either said or thought, “shouldn’t you have taken these down by now?” It’s really something else. 

Edited Monday at 07:49 AM by Anela