The View: Week of 5/13/2024

[falltime]

Monday, May 13 – Jim Parsons and Celia Keenan-Bolger (Broadway’s “Mother Play”)

 

Tuesday, May 14 – George Stephanopoulos (co-anchor, “Good Morning America,” and author, “The Situation Room: The Inside Story of Presidents in Crisis”); Robert De Niro (“Ezra”)

Wednesday, May 15 – Maya Rudolph and Joel Kim Booster (“Loot”)

Thursday, May 16 – Jessica Biel (author, “A Kid’s Book About Periods”); Nick Offerman and Helen Rebanks (authors, “The Farmer’s Wife”)

Friday, May 17 – Ilana Glazer, Michelle Buteau and Pamela Adlon (“Babes”)

[Haleth]

Sunny is in for a rude awakening if she’s counting on the 50something% of people who say they won’t vote for Trump if he’s convicted of a felony. She does know that popular vote doesn’t elect a president, right?  If that 50something% of people are all in CA they won’t make a difference. 

[atomic]

That baby is ridiculously cute, but it's sad she probably won't get the chance to make too many memories with her father.

They should've done another court room sketch with Sunny and the binoculars. 

[atomic]

Harrison Butker can believe whatever he wants. The problem is he used a college commencement speech as a platform to spew all those controversial beliefs rather than focusing on the accomplishments of those students.

Did not know what Joy shared about his mother being such an accomplished physicist - definitely would not have guessed that to be the background of a guy with such far right, fundamentalist beliefs.

[Gemma Violet]

2 hours ago, atomic said:

The problem is he used a college commencement speech as a platform to spew all those controversial beliefs rather than focusing on the accomplishments of those students.

Yes.  It was not the time nor the place to spew his beliefs when there was great likelihood that some/many in the audience of graduates did not share those beliefs.  (Yes, it was a conservative school, but still.)  He's not too bright.  Either that or he just didn't care.    

[KittyQ]

3 hours ago, atomic said:

Harrison Butker can believe whatever he wants. The problem is he used a college commencement speech as a platform to spew all those controversial beliefs rather than focusing on the accomplishments of those students.

I think that we're hearing about more commencement speakers doing this kind of thing (using the speech to promote their personal beliefs and messages) than before. Don't speakers get some kind of guidance about what the speech is meant to be? I don't mean that it has to outline what the exact content is, but the point of the speech, which is to acknowledge the accomplishments of the graduates, and provide some inspiration for their future endeavors, whatever those might be. 

Disclosure: I can't remember a bit of the speech at my university graduation; I was too focused on myself and my friends and the culmination of my studies. I'm pretty sure it was Sarah Caldwell, the first female conductor of the Metropolitan Opera, but exactly what she said - no idea.

Edited May 16 by KittyQ
Correcting typo

[After7Only]

25 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

Yes.  It was not the time nor the place to spew his beliefs when there was great likelihood that some/many in the audience of graduates did not share those beliefs.  (Yes, it was a conservative school, but still.)  He's not too bright.  Either that or he just didn't care.    

It's a small Catholic college in Kansas and some likely did share his beliefs (politically) or at least have been exposed to the Catholic framework of his beliefs.  Which is why he felt so comfortable giving that speech.   

I was a little surprised Sunny was not more outraged.   It made me wonder if she fully read or listened to the speech.   

I most agreed with Alyssa on this discussion.   She was on point from the Christian perspective and a bit more succinct than Sara

Those in KC area weren't that surprised.  He's talked about being a devout Catholic and has expressed conservative beliefs before.  The rest of the country generally doesn't care about the thoughts of a kicker 🙂

 

[Gemma Violet]

Inside Edition spoke to a graduate who said his speech ruined her special day.

[Haleth]

What a thing to tell all those young women who had just received their degrees. 😢

[atomic]

Sara's face when crankypants Whoopi snapped at Joy today 

[maggiemae]

Whoopi lectured us all, then let Sara speak and lectured her, and then noticed Joy wanted to say something and that she would get to Joy  (after starting back into her lecturing) until Joy said something about the time running out.

I wish Whoop would stop with all the lecturing...she says the same thing over and over and implies only her opinion is the important one, imo. 

[Soapy Goddess]

6 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

Inside Edition spoke to a graduate who said his speech ruined her special day.

I found that video to be laughable. Leave it to a 20-something to be offended. 

I could think of a lot worse things that would ruin a day...and it certainly wouldn't be someone else's speech or opinion. What a wimp.

[Haleth]

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I found that video to be laughable. Leave it to a 20-something to be offended.

This 60-something was offended.

[Snapdragon]

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I found that video to be laughable. Leave it to a 20-something to be offended. 

I could think of a lot worse things that would ruin a day...and it certainly wouldn't be someone else's speech or opinion. What a wimp.

Yeah, I'm a college-educated, stay-at-home mom in my 40s and I found it offensive.  It was completely inappropriate for a graduation speech.  It would be the same as if someone decided to give a speech about how happy they are to be childfree at another person's baby shower.  Not the place, not the time and pretty offensive. 

[atomic]

The Bennifer stuff probably is true since TMZ is reporting on it now. But suuuuure Sunny, everyone is just jealous of their epic love.

[bluegirl147]

43 minutes ago, atomic said:

The Bennifer stuff probably is true since TMZ is reporting on it now. But suuuuure Sunny, everyone is just jealous of their epic love.

If they had such an epic love would they have married other people and had children with those spouses?  I always thought it was shitty for the media to play into the whole they are each other's soulmates when Ben was married to Jennifer Garner for a long time and had three kids with her.  So Garner was just a placeholder?  J Lo has had lots of soulmates I suspect. 

[KittyQ]

Re: flag flying - it is annoying when something with an established meaning (ex. flying the flag upside down) is used to convey a different meaning. The flag code says that upside down is only used to signal "dire distress" and "extreme danger", so using it to indicate a political viewpoint dilutes and confuses the original intention.

Granted this is a kind of far-out hypothetical, but I'd hate to be in a precarious situation, where my only means of signaling my peril was arranging the position of the flag, only to have anyone seeing it dismiss it as being just a political statement. 

Whether Justice Alito or his wife (and shame on everyone who is blaming their wives for everything!) chose to position the flag this way, it seems like a misuse of a significant signal to score some points with or against someone. 

[bluegirl147]

41 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

The flag code says that upside down is only used to signal "dire distress" and "extreme danger", so using it to indicate a political viewpoint dilutes and confuses the original intention.

The thing is there are people who in fact who think different political viewpoints is dire distress and extreme danger.  

 

[Natalie68]

8 hours ago, Haleth said:

This 60-something was offended.

As was this 55 year old. 

[bluegirl147]

1 hour ago, Natalie68 said:

As was this 55 year old. 

I think more people were offended than those not offended.   However the ones not offended seemed to have went and bought his jersey.  Meanwhile hopefully Taylor Swift is writing a song.

[Soapy Goddess]

Everyone can be offended, but that was/is his belief...and his right to speak about it in the context of some women looking forward to a new career/job, while others might be looking forward to marriage and babies. 

Why must everybody find something so benign so offensive? It's not as if he said every woman should stay home and have babies and never have a career. Enough with cancel culture!

For the record, I'm a boomer and wasn't the least bit offended. Stuff like that goes in one ear and out the other. It's not worth getting upset over someone's belief. We're all different. And he's not physically hurting anyone. We all can't think alike. It's human nature.

[bluegirl147]

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Everyone can be offended, but that was/is his belief...and his right to speak about it in the context of some women looking forward to a new career/job, while others might be looking forward to marriage and babies. 

Why must everybody find something so benign so offensive? It's not as if he said every woman should stay home and have babies and never have a career. Enough with cancel culture!

For the record, I'm a boomer and wasn't the least bit offended. Stuff like that goes in one ear and out the other. It's not worth getting upset over someone's belief. We're all different. And he's not physically hurting anyone. We all can't think alike. It's human nature.

My opinion was wrong place wrong time.  Those graduating women just spent a lot of time and money to get a degree and he is telling them he thinks they will be better off forgoing a career and finding a husband and having kids. This wasn't just his opinion for his family he thinks this should be the norm. And I won't even go into his remarks referring to LGTBQ.

 

[Denize]

On 5/17/2024 at 12:16 PM, bluegirl147 said:

The thing is there are people who in fact who think different political viewpoints is dire distress and extreme danger.  

I first saw the American Flag flown upside-down during the Vietnam War. It is a time-honoured mode of peaceful political protest.

8 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

My opinion was wrong place wrong time.  Those graduating women just spent a lot of time and money to get a degree and he is telling them he thinks they will be better off forgoing a career and finding a husband and having kids. 

When we were walking back to the car after my university graduation, despite the fact that I graduated at the top of my class and had been accepted by several prestigious grad schools, my father told me that he always thought I'd drop out after a couple of years and marry an engineer.  No dad, I'd become an engineer! Thankfully nobody ever asked him to give a commencement speech.

Edited May 18 by Denize