SURmising The New Season

[KungFuBunny]

A thread to discuss thoughts and predictions for next season. Powerpoint Presentations, Excel Spreadsheets, Pie Charts, are NOT required. All suppositions and conjectures are welcome.

Edited June 24, 2023 by KungFuBunny

[KungFuBunny]

I think the entire cast will be back next season.

The only one that is an iffy is Raquel. Raquel will be back, only if Tom Sandoval has her on as his girlfriend. Otherwise, there won't be anyone for her to film with

I also think Jax/Brittney or Stassi/Beau come back. They may come back as VPR's version of a "Friend Of"

[Gharlane]

I didn't think anyone would want to return if Raquchel were to return,  but someone pointed out what a bunch of famewhores these people are, so I'm not so sure now. I thought I read or saw something that indicated no one who used  to be on was returning to the show. 

Edited June 25, 2023 by Gharlane

[Kiki777]

Bravo will offer her a contract (because drama) and Raquel will except (because since she first showed up she’s been fighting for screen time even if it meant awkwardly injecting herself into a conversation).  I’m sure everyone else will accept and will probably be required to film with her at least a few times.  It gonna be a hot mess and of course I cannot wait 😂 

I hope Kristen comes back - I’ve seen a few podcasts she was in and she really seems to have grown and matured.  It’ll be fun to watch how the girls (except Raquel) interact with the Toms now that the world is aware of how horrible and manipulative they are.

[KungFuBunny]

I've seen Schwartz say in interviews that he is stepping back from Sandoval.

It's BS. Sandoval has some dirty secrets of Schwartz's that he won't want revealed

I think Schwartz will fold like a lawn chair

Edited June 25, 2023 by KungFuBunny

[KungFuBunny]

If Raquel makes it back for Season 11, it will only be for one season.

She isn't very interesting. She's so awkward and is terrible in conversations. She doesn't have that "it" factor.

I hope there are lots of scenes of her in that fake apartment, staring at her phone waiting for Tom to call.

 

 

 

[hoodooznoodooz]

On 6/24/2023 at 11:59 PM, KungFuBunny said:

If Raquel makes it back for Season 11, it will only be for one season.

She isn't very interesting. She's so awkward and is terrible in conversations. She doesn't have that "it" factor.

I hope there are lots of scenes of her in that fake apartment, staring at her phone waiting for Tom to call.

 

 

 

I agree. I hope you’re correct. 

But LVP will want to sit down with her often, comforting and scolding and judging this “broken bird.”  🤪

R: It’s, like, been so hard. Because, like, they ignore me. And I understand that they, like, have a right to be, like, totally mad at me. But it’s, like, been really, like, upsetting. 
 

LVP: Well, you did sleep with Ariana’s boyfriend for seven months. Darling, don’t cry. It’ll get better. 

 

Edited June 26, 2023 by hoodooznoodooz

[Kiki777]

6 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I agree. I hope you’re correct. 

But LVP will want to sit down with her often, comforting and scolding and judging this “broken bird 🤪”.

R: It’s, like, been so hard. Because, like, they ignore me. And I understand that they, like, have a right to be, like, totally mad at me. But it’s, like, been really, like, upsetting. 
 

LVP: Well, you did sleep with Ariana’s boyfriend for seven months. Darling, don’t cry. It’ll get better. 

 

R: ohhhh Lisa! You’re, like, my BEST FRIEND…. Oh, hiiiii Ken!

[itsadryheat]

10 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Raquel makes it back for Season 11

We'll have confirmation that the crisis pr mental facility was crisis pr or mental facility treatment because we all know that mental treatment issues can be cured in 3 months.

[Drogo]

Prediction for next season: people will suck, we will hate them, we will discuss like rational adults with masochist television viewing tendencies.

[KungFuBunny]

Katie will still film with Schwartz.

While, I think privately, Katie knows Schwartz never loved her.

Publicly, or for the show, she will justify her 12 year relationship had loving moments.

She's a glutton for punishment.

If Stassi films, Katie's head will be right up Stassi's ass. She will take what ever stance or opinion that Stassi has. I do think she will go Mean Girl on Scheana again

[KungFuBunny]

There was a Bravo show called Sweet Home Oklahoma. It ran for 2 seasons. Two of its principles, Jennifer & Angie, are the hosts of the podcast below. When their show was on Bravo, their EP was Alex Baskin, with whom they are still close to. If you only want to see the part with the Alex Baskin interview, start at the 13 minute 30 second mark.

 

[KungFuBunny]

I would love a celebrity cameo - such as Jason Momoa

I SURmise that @dosodog and KungFuBunny will lose their freakin' minds

KungFuBunny will drag dosodogs' ass down the rabbit hole, so we can re-watch the scene, over and over

[dosodog]

On a loop!  All day!  My 1st grade class will be wondering why Ms. K keeps watching Aquaman in between lessons...

[KungFuBunny]

Raquel is a lamp without a bulb.

Ariana opened doors for Tom, in terms of business opportunities. Raquel doesn’t have the know how or savvy to do this for Tom, she’ll contribute to doors slamming.

Ariana could step in when Tom would say something that came across as negative or offensive. She had the ability to temper his answers. Raquel is even more inarticulate than Tom, and will make the situation worse.

Raquel’s ability is to be an echo for Tom. However, if she feels she’s getting too much heat, she will turn victim and say Tom told her what to say. Tom will get tired of that real fast.

Tom will expect constant validation from Raquel when she is around him. Now that their relationship is out, he will reciprocate it for filming, but when the cameras aren’t on – he won’t feel the need.

Raquel and Tom will do poorly in individual interviews. Neither has control over what questions are asked or what topics are raised by the interviewer. Neither knows how to answer even the most simple question.

How long will it take before she and Sandoval fight over cosmetics and the mirror?

Sandoval bitched about buying pens and batteries, he’ll need to add everything under the sun to that list. Raquel is an entitled pig, she doesn’t clean, wash clothing, sweep, vacuum, buy groceries, cook, buy detergent, replace toilet paper. If Raquel tries to wash Tom’s sequined shirts and pants, he’ll find they’ve turned into crop tops and shorts.

Ariana and Scheana had all of the connections and organizational skills to throw events, or set up trips and getaways. The only party Raquel ever threw was a puppy party and that was a fail. Tom had annual surprise birthday party getaways by Scheana/Ariana, this would involve inviting friends, hotel stays, dinners, entertainment. Does Tom’s next birthday party involve balloon animals and paper hats?

[itsadryheat]

The other player in scamdoval which has been majorly danced around is the explicit Facetime video.

"Ariana Madix discovered Tom Sandoval was cheating on her after she found a sexually explicit video sent by Raquel Leviss on his phone, Page Six can confirm."

"Raquel Leviss said that an intimate FaceTime with Tom Sandoval that led to his breakup with Ariana Madix was recorded without her permission." Daily Mail

What to believe?  rachel sent it, sandy recorded it without permission, they both were aware while recording and are lying.

If this was illegally recorded by sandy, she wouldn’t be sending cease and desist distribution letters via her lawyer. She would be legally going after him for revenge porn.  Interesting, that she isn’t. She’s only targeting people who could possibly share it. And yet her Crisis PR team is working extra hard to make us think that she’s a victim of the creep sandy who recorded her without her consent.

Bet you a dollar he has moved on from rachel now that the thrill of deceit is over, and reality has reared its ugly head. But in rachel world, it was the real thing. And post scamdoval she has gone out of her way to be portrayed as a victim.  

So how does this play out going forward? As confirmed, sandy is duplicitous and incapable of having any type of healthy relationship with another human other than with himself, what if Rachel returns to VPR. Does his "brand" make him "act" like he's still into her? Is the threat of legal action hanging over his aging head? Looks like the power dynamic has shifted.

If the "care/therapy" she received was effective, she wouldn’t be returning. Her coming back speaks volumes about what this all was and the kind of person we’re dealing with.

 

[hoodooznoodooz]

2 hours ago, itsadryheat said:

Bet you a dollar he has moved on from rachel now that the thrill of deceit is over, and reality has reared its ugly head. But in rachel world, it was the real thing. And post scamdoval she has gone out of her way to be portrayed as a victim.  

So how does this play out going forward? As confirmed, sandy is duplicitous and incapable of having any type of healthy relationship with another human other than with himself, what if Rachel returns to VPR. Does his "brand" make him "act" like he's still into her? Is the threat of legal action hanging over his aging head? Looks like the power dynamic has shifted.

Sandoval will most likely feign interest in Rachel, so that she doesn’t flip out and spill more secrets. 
There is no honor among thieves.

Edited June 28, 2023 by hoodooznoodooz

[hoodooznoodooz]

12 hours ago, itsadryheat said:

The other player in scamdoval which has been majorly danced around is the explicit Facetime video.

"Ariana Madix discovered Tom Sandoval was cheating on her after she found a sexually explicit video sent by Raquel Leviss on his phone, Page Six can confirm."

"Raquel Leviss said that an intimate FaceTime with Tom Sandoval that led to his breakup with Ariana Madix was recorded without her permission." Daily Mail

What to believe?  rachel sent it, sandy recorded it without permission, they both were aware while recording and are lying.

If this was illegally recorded by sandy, she wouldn’t be sending cease and desist distribution letters via her lawyer. She would be legally going after him for revenge porn. 

 

So what was actually going on here. When it first broke, I thought that Rachel and Sandoval were having FaceTime phone sex/masturbating. Sandoval recorded it? And it defaults to his camera roll?
 

ZettaK, are you in New York? I like to think of posters settling in to their work/office day and catching up on new VPR thread posts. 

[KungFuBunny]

13 hours ago, itsadryheat said:

What to believe?  rachel sent it, sandy recorded it without permission, they both were aware while recording and are lying.

If Raquel sent it - then she "recorded it" and Sandy simply "saved" it. If this is the case, it shows you what a rotten skank she is. She's basically saying don't forget what you have waiting for you anytime you want, don't have sex with Ariana.

43 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

So what was actually going on here. When it first broke, I thought that Rachel and Sandoval were having FaceTime phone sex/masturbating. Sandoval recorded it? And it defaults to his camera roll?

If they were having Facetime sex, I don't know whether I believe that she didn't know it was being recorded. The Facetime sex is basically a souvenir anyway, she got off, he got off - so what if he taped her. If she masturbated, and he just watched - then of course he's going to tape it until he is in a place with more privacy to jack off.

I think she didn't want it coming out because it would show how complicit she is.If you think about it, how did she know to send papers to Ariana, Scheana, and others that it was a recording and not pictures?

[Dirtybubble]

I've heard rumors Raquel is still in a mental facility so if she comes back it would probably be mid season.  They'll do a big build up and have her come back half way through or maybe towards the end of the season.

We need Sandoval back.  Gotta have a good villain for everyone to hate.

I wonder if Ariana's new bf will be on this season maybe as a friend of or something like that.  I wonder if we'll see Jo.

And I may be in the minority here but I'm all for a Jax and Brit comeback.  Jax was always meh to me but I've always like Brit so yeah bring them both on!

[Gharlane]

12 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Sandoval will most likely feign interest in Rachel, so that she doesn’t flip out and spill more secrets. 
There is no honor among thieves.

TBH, I assumed that Sandoval was fooling around with groupies (*shudder*) while on "tour" with his "band" already. 

[KungFuBunny]

Katie will get a new haircut and dye her hair and it won't be appealing.

If Tom starts dating a new girl. Katie will make him a SAH sandwich, using There's Something About Mary special mayonnaise. She will also rage text and call the new girl a whore at least 5 times.

 

[ZettaK]

5 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

So what was actually going on here. When it first broke, I thought that Rachel and Sandoval were having FaceTime phone sex/masturbating. Sandoval recorded it? And it defaults to his camera roll?
 

ZettaK, are you in New York? I like to think of posters settling in to their work/office day and catching up on new VPR thread posts. 

I'm in SE Florida.

[Gharlane]

18 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Katie will get a new haircut and dye her hair and it won't be appealing.

If Tom starts dating a new girl. Katie will make him a SAH sandwich, using There's Something About Mary special mayonnaise. She will also rage text and call the new girl a whore at least 5 times.

It's not the first time Katie dyed her hair with a poor color choice! 😀

I bet Tom will be like "I recognize this mayo but don't know why". 😏

[KungFuBunny]

There are rumors that Raquel has not signed on for season 11, that her parents won’t allow her to come back, that Raquel has been in a mental health facility for the last few months.

If it is true that Raquel has not signed, then I think it is Raquel’s famewhore parents who are trying to get a higher salary for Raquel. This will backfire, Raquel needs Bravo, more than Bravo needs Raquel. Bravo will not offer her more money. What will Raquel do if she doesn’t sign a contract, Dr Phil? Their past contracts are very detailed and specific on what they are and are not allowed to say in other forums, especially anything about filming or behind the scenes information. So after, Dr Phil what else can she do? She was so awkward conversationally with people she knew and worked with for 6 years, she wouldn’t be able to interact with total strangers on Stars On Mars or Big Brother.

I don’t believe her parents. If you wanted your daughter off the show, you wouldn’t keep talking to the press. She’s in a mental facility, she’s getting death threats, we called the FBI, mom goes on Twitter.

There are people in the audience that don’t believe her and don’t want to see her back, such as myself. There are people who believe she is a victim and fragile, that don’t want to see her back with Tom. Optically, for Bravo, it is not a good look for Bravo to renew a contract with someone fragile and suicidal. If she signs a contract, films, can’t take the heat, and runs back to a mental facility – it’s a waste of time for Bravo.

Each time she films as though she works at SUR, they will have to close the set. She can’t pretend work there for 4 months, without getting booed and have plates flying at her. It isn’t believable for her to film and interact with other cast members, in anything other than a confrontational conversation.

What is Raquels reason for having been in a mental health facility? Exhaustion? Issues with alcohol? Medication misuse? That isn’t believable if she claims she’s been there for 3 months and now she’s strong enough to be back on a reality show that contributed to those issues in the first place.

Tom would actually do better if he appears with a new girlfriend. There are so many Instagram Models that are younger in the 21-24 year range, that have a following of 500K to 1M, that are prettier, and thirsty to be on a reality show. A new girl – I could see many of the other cast members willing to interact with her on film.

[KungFuBunny]

Filming Season 11

Katie and Ariana looking at progress of SAH store?

[itsadryheat]

6 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

I don’t believe her parents.

If they really care about her well-being, they would have taken out a TRO on sandy, not Scheana.

6 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

it is not a good look for Bravo to renew a contract with someone fragile and suicidal.

and when her destructive behavior turns on her, she runs to the legal system to intimidate others while hiding in a mental facility to change her character and find integrity so she can return to the place where she is reviled.

 

Edited June 29, 2023 by itsadryheat

[KungFuBunny]

On 6/27/2023 at 3:46 PM, dosodog said:

On a loop!  All day!  My 1st grade class will be wondering why Ms. K keeps watching Aquaman in between lessons...

February 7, 2024 Vanderpump Rules Season 11 begins

February 5th, Principal: Ms. K had a family emergency, please welcome your teacher for the remainder of the school year, Ms. B

 

 

February 7th, 9:15 PM, in a rabbit hole, KungFuBunny screeches: He's playing coy! Rip his shirt off @dosodog !!!!!!!

 

[KungFuBunny]

The Raquel/Tom relationship occurred in the dark. The secretiveness, the deception, the duplicity. How does this relationship now function in the light?

Rauqel’s persona, on the show, has always been “the victim”. First, she was victim to James. Then she was a victim of bullying by Lala. She also implied she was victimized by Katie. In her past, she had Scheana and Ariana, defending her or encouraging her to stand up for herself.

Playing victim doesn’t work for season 11. There isn’t any plausible reason for James, Lala, Katie, Scheana or Ariana to approach her for a conversation. I could see James asking, why are you trying to talk to me, shouldn’t you be riding 42 year old penis? What would Lala say, are you interested in posing for a new line of lipstick called Stupid Demon? Why would Raquel, even approach Katie? She made it clear on Season 10, that she was not friends with Katie and was not interested in being friends with her. So, is she going to chase Katie and Teri around telling them why it was okay for her to kiss Schwartz? Scheana would never initiate a conversation, Raquel would have to. If Raquel says I want to apologize to you. Scheana should ask what are you sorry for, and then let Raquel speak. Then Scheana should say, I don’t believe you, if you were sorry you would have written me a letter like you said while you were in the trailer. I’ve never received anything from you via mail or via phone. I know you had access to both as you sent letters to Tom and have been in contact with him by phone. Raquel can’t cry victim, that the other cast members are ignoring her. She can’t cry that she is victim to Tom and he’s manipulating her, because then the question is why are you here then? She has no one to cry to when Tom is mean to her.

Tom’s persona, on the show, most supportive friend, honorable, most generous, most romantic, loyal.

When Schwartz told him he was getting a lot of heat from the affair, Sandoval told him to stay off social media. He left Schwartz holding the bag on S&S, Schwartz is the one putting in the hours trying to keep the business afloat. Years ago, Tom sent a video of himself crying and apologizing to Scheana for ruining her engagement party, is he going to do the same regarding her wedding in Mexico? It’s out in the open how he feels about Katie, Lala, and Ariana – any conversation with an apology won’t come across as genuine.

[itsadryheat]

20 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

The Raquel/Tom relationship occurred in the dark. The secretiveness, the deception, the duplicity. How does this relationship now function in the light?

Rauqel’s persona, on the show, has always been “the victim”.

If "in the light" is represented by the few clips we saw of them at the end of S10, watching them together will have to be a drinking game. It was as enjoyable and entertaining as watching the news.

I've been groomed watching soaps, (shout out to Luke and Laura) and have morphed into secretly watching many reality shows I will not admit to in public. Their behavior, on and off screen, has been the most cringey thing I have ever seen. I am pretty creative, and for the life of me, I cannot see a storyline that would keep my interest. Not interested in a season of mass verbal takedowns. Had enough season 10 and all of sandy's scenes. 

Nothing they say has any merit, and the sound of their voices makes me go for the mute button. All I can come up with is total shunning by castmates and/or a Thelma and Louise car cliff scene.

Good luck Bravo. Do not underestimate how disgusted your audience is with these two.

[Jel]

Agreed. I just have no desire to see those two win. It’s not even just no desire, it’s no stomach for it. I feel like selfishness, self-absorption, bad behavior etc in these reality shows has jumped the shark. I can’t take anymore.

[itsadryheat]

1 hour ago, itsadryheat said:

Do not underestimate how disgusted your audience is with these two.

"Rachel was boring before, now she’s boring, repulsive and transparent in her demonic behavior. VPR didn’t need her before, doesn’t need her now and should tell her to focus on that ‘mental health’ bullshit she’s been playing for the public. Girl bye."

 

[KungFuBunny]

I would love for Season 11 to highlight the businesses:

The closing of PUMP and its failures and lawsuits. I doubt what appears will be honest. If anything LVP will do her smoke and mirrors act - such as saying they are closing because the landlord jacked up the rent - which we know isn't true

The struggles of S&S trying to remain open. Bet you this won't be honest either - suddenly with the cameras on - they will be there all the time as opposed to being their usual MIA.

The opening of SAH - and more of the actual going ons to get a business started.

Hoodoozy:

Regarding the restaurant/bar business - it takes years for the investors and owners to make back the money they invested. Most close down before they even break even. Let's pretend, PUMP made 2M in a year. That's not profit. You have to subtract employee wages, rent, supply costs, utilities, water bills & property taxes which are usually paid by the tenant, and other expenses. After which, each investor might take a small draw against their investment. I doubt LVP spent as much as she claims she did to renovate the property before opening, I also think she used a lot of under the table construction labor - not licensed. We know she owed a lot of back rent, and she stiffed employees out of their pay. PUMP also got their liquor license revoked for a period of time. Now with all that it meant more money in LVP's pocket - and yet they're still closing.

Schwartz & Sandy's rely on Vanderpump Rules to draw people in. Once the show ends, the bar is done. They will probably not even make it to that time with the 2 idiots as front men. I'm really curious as to how Greg fits in - what percentage of the business is his, and are there other investors?

 

[Kiki777]

On 6/30/2023 at 3:19 PM, KungFuBunny said:

Rauqel’s persona, on the show, has always been “the victim”. First, she was victim to James. Then she was a victim of bullying by Lala. She also implied she was victimized by Katie. In her past, she had Scheana and Ariana, defending her or encouraging her to stand up for herself.

Playing victim doesn’t work for season 11.

I think she was trying the lay the groundwork for that in her post-reunion interview, claiming Sandoval made her lie and isolated her from the rest of her ‘friends’ and ‘oh he’s gonna kill me for telling the truth’.  And the crying (which let’s be real was not so much about guilt, but more about her going from the ‘star’ of the show back to her first season status when she was upset about being excluded from the group’s parties and vacations.). Sandoval and Raquel may be forced to at least fake a relationship so they’d at least have someone to film with.

[KungFuBunny]

We've all heard about how Ariana found something on Tom's phone which exposed the affair. We also know, that Camp Raquel sent letters to Ariana, Scheana and others regarding this "video"

I know they couldn't send this video to others - because that would be a crime. What I don't get - is why they can't discuss what it was specifically - is there anything illegal about that? Or can they and they are waiting for VPR to film? Any armchair lawyers out there?

On a separate note, how does Raquel explain away the "death threats"? Do they magically stop once VPR starts filming? She can't claim that the people sending the alleged death threats have all been captured. I can actually see her famewhore adoptive parents, along with her famewhore sister cousin/PR dressing up in disguise following her around.

 

 

[ZettaK]

It seems that Raquel negotiated her salary, and she will return to filming later in the season. VR films for about two months, or slightly longer. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

4 hours ago, ZettaK said:

It seems that Raquel negotiated her salary, and she will return to filming later in the season. VR films for about two months, or slightly longer. 

Rachel’s mother:

My daughter/niece rescued this show. If it weren’t for RaRa, you would have pulled the plug on VPR. 
 

We will sign a contract for a 150% increase in salary. Dedicated personal hair and makeup. Enough Sage Green upscale outfits to choke a horse. Complimentary weekly STD screenings. Paid Coachella, etc., tickets. An Ariana Madix skin suit. 

This is our final offer. If you fail to agree to our terms and conditions, RaRa will walk. 

In-house counsel:

Thank you for meeting with us. Once again, the contract is the same as the one you signed last year. We found and replaced dates only. Feel free to keep the Vanderpump à Paris pen. The receptionist will validate your parking. Could you please send Mr. Sandoval in? 

[KungFuBunny]

7 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Rachel’s mother:

My daughter/niece rescued this show. If it weren’t for RaRa, you would have pulled the plug on VPR. 
 

We will sign a contract for a 150% increase in salary. Dedicated personal hair and makeup. Enough Sage Green upscale outfits to choke a horse. Complimentary weekly STD screenings. Paid Coachella, etc., tickets. An Ariana Madix skin suit. 

This is our final offer. If you fail to agree to our terms and conditions, RaRa will walk. 

In-house counsel:

Thank you for meeting with us. Once again, the contract is the same as the one you signed last year. We found and replaced dates only. Feel free to keep the Vanderpump à Paris pen. The receptionist will validate your parking. Could you please send Mr. Sandoval in? 

If she is coming back later in the season - is this code for waiting for Sandoval to get back from the show he's doing out of the country? Also, if she doesn't film the whole season - cut that salary in 1/2. Anything can happen - Sandoval's team may have found him an Instagram model - younger, prettier, with a higher SM following that will be his on film new girlfriend. I'm sure the contract Bravo prepared for Raquel has a contingency - if she leaves again to go into hiding - she breaches the contract.

 

[Jel]

2 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

If she is coming back later in the season - is this code for waiting for Sandoval to get back from the show he's doing out of the country? Also, if she doesn't film the whole season - cut that salary in 1/2. Anything can happen - Sandoval's team may have found him an Instagram model - younger, prettier, with a higher SM following that will be his on film new girlfriend. I'm sure the contract Bravo prepared for Raquel has a contingency - if she leaves again to go into hiding - she breaches the contract.

 

It probably does. And that’s further proof that they are all full of it. All the “real concern “ for Rachel’s mental health. Which is it? Are the producers really concerned for her mental health? If they are, they are up to the point of how much they think she can do for ratings, adding to their bottom line. So, willing to exploit someone they think has serious mental health issues. Or, do they think she’s embarrassed and disappointed that she’s lost the good will of so many fans, but that the mental health issues are mainly a pr move? In which case, that ep who was interviewed and expressed his concern for Rachel was mostly full of it. It’s all so off putting!

[ZettaK]

5 hours ago, Jel said:

It probably does. And that’s further proof that they are all full of it. All the “real concern “ for Rachel’s mental health. Which is it? Are the producers really concerned for her mental health? If they are, they are up to the point of how much they think she can do for ratings, adding to their bottom line. So, willing to exploit someone they think has serious mental health issues. Or, do they think she’s embarrassed and disappointed that she’s lost the good will of so many fans, but that the mental health issues are mainly a pr move? In which case, that ep who was interviewed and expressed his concern for Rachel was mostly full of it. It’s all so off putting!

There is no real concern about anybody's mental health from the producers of reality shows. It's obvious by the relentless pursuit of certain story lines. Cast members are pushed to follow those. It's only about the ratings, and in this case it's the interactions among cast members that matter. Who knows what will happen between Sandoval and Raquel. It's obvious they are not together, and if they pretend they are, it will be a fake story line. Viewers will watch for at least one more season to see the interactions, and reactions.

Edited July 2, 2023 by ZettaK

[itsadryheat]

19 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Rachel’s mother:

My daughter/niece rescued this show. If it weren’t for RaRa, you would have pulled the plug on VPR. 

Oh, Family Rachel. The "uniqueness" of Tucson combined with the dry, three-digit heat must be fogging the family's rose-colored glasses.

In response to the Glamour cover of Ariana, Susan bio mom appears from hiding in her basement to tweet “Moving on up and Raquel saved the show ratings skyrocketed,”.

Not so fast bio mom. I believe the "saved the show" crown was won by your arch-nemesis Ariana. By immediately notifying the cast and production of your daughter's sexual performance found on sandy's phone, the cameras were back in action within 24 hours. That maneuver saved the show-not the backstabbing predatory behavior and obnoxious verbal abuse exhibited by your daughter and her lust interest. It also stopped dead the duo's plot to smear Ariana's mental health and reputation hoping to have her removed from the show, to be replaced by your daughter.

It appears rachel is going for the victim positioning for next season. Looks like this is an attitude that runs in the family. In response to Ariana's Duracell ad, Susan quickly responded: “Mainstream endorsements at the expense of Raquel.”  Poor victim rachel, so glad the mental facility has cured her and the FBI caught those awful people who were dropping the death threats so she can return to the environment that brought out the best in her.

BTW, any idea where your thirsty daughter got the throuple idea from and why she thought would work?

[JenE4]

Okay, I will be the lone voice to say that Scandoval did save this show and bring it back to its former, messy glory. What made me love this show was the season-long cheating scandal investigations that they managed to stumble into year after year. The show went to hell after everyone got married. I still tuned in because I am a creature of habit. 

Maybe the rest of you identified with or rooted for (or whatever) specific characters. But I don’t care about any of these people other than what schadenfreude they bring to the table. And Tom and Raquel brought it!!! If they left and we were just subjected to The Mopey Adventures of Katie Maloney after this season that can take the defunct Barnum and Bailey’s circus tagline as the Greatest Show on Earth, I’m out.

[Chatty Cake]

Isn’t it a conflict of interest for Racky to return to the show straight out of a mental health facility? She’s going to be continuously slut shamed by that unhappy shrew Katie, the big lipped asshole Lala, the annoying voiced Shaena and the poo pants name caller crazyJames.

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, Chatty Cake said:

Isn’t it a conflict of interest for Racky to return to the show straight out of a mental health facility? She’s going to be continuously slut shamed by that unhappy shrew Katie, the big lipped asshole Lala, the annoying voiced Shaena and the poo pants name caller crazyJames.

Raquel is single and can screw all the men she wants. She was never "slut shamed" When they were in Vegas, no one slut shamed her for kissing Oliver. Lala just said the way she moves, she wouldn't trust Raquel around her man. Raquel's response was "you're lucky you don't have one" This seems to be her life motto. She really doesn't care if a man is in a relationship or married.

If you want to call it "skank shamed" I can agree. She should be ashamed that she is such a skank.

As for Katie, everyone's a whore. As for her reference to Raquel, Raquel on camera pursued Schwartz, despite being told by Katie it would hurt her. Raquel didn't want Schwartz, so why did she do it? For camera time? To deflect suspicion from herself and Sandoval? To hurt Katie? I can't think of any rationale that makes Raquel the victim in this situation.

As for the cast - I can't wait for the skank attack

Edited July 3, 2023 by KungFuBunny

[Chatty Cake]

47 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Raquel is single and can screw all the men she wants. She was never "slut shamed" When they were in Vegas, no one slut shamed her for kissing Oliver. Lala just said the way she moves, she wouldn't trust Raquel around her man. Raquel's response was "you're lucky you don't have one" This seems to be her life motto. She really doesn't care if a man is in a relationship or married.

If you want to call it "skank shamed" I can agree. She should be ashamed that she is such a skank.

As for Katie, everyone's a whore. As for her reference to Raquel, Raquel on camera pursued Schwartz, despite being told by Katie it would hurt her. Raquel didn't want Schwartz, so why did she do it? For camera time? To deflect suspicion from herself and Sandoval? To hurt Katie? I can't think of any rationale that makes Raquel the victim in this situation.

As for the cast - I can't wait for the skank attack

I don’t consider Racky a victim, just questioning the mental health facility. As for slut vs skank shaming, the entire cast are cheating pigs so the pile on is pointless. Ariana is the only one who should get to verbally abuse Rackey.

[Jel]

2 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Raquel is single and can screw all the men she wants. She was never "slut shamed" When they were in Vegas, no one slut shamed her for kissing Oliver. Lala just said the way she moves, she wouldn't trust Raquel around her man. Raquel's response was "you're lucky you don't have one" This seems to be her life motto. She really doesn't care if a man is in a relationship or married.

If you want to call it "skank shamed" I can agree. She should be ashamed that she is such a skank.

As for Katie, everyone's a whore. As for her reference to Raquel, Raquel on camera pursued Schwartz, despite being told by Katie it would hurt her. Raquel didn't want Schwartz, so why did she do it? For camera time? To deflect suspicion from herself and Sandoval? To hurt Katie? I can't think of any rationale that makes Raquel the victim in this situation.

As for the cast - I can't wait for the skank attack

That’s a great point, KFB. Why did she pursue/pretend to pursue Schwartz? It was seen as a girl code violation when we thought she was interested in him, and chose to pursue him anyway. But she wasn’t even interested, so why do it? I agree with you—there’s no way to see her as a victim in that scenario. In hindsight, knowing she had zero interest in Schwartz, it seems much worse. She used Schwartz, and she fucked with Katie’s emotions for sport. Not nice.

[KungFuBunny]

37 minutes ago, Jel said:

That’s a great point, KFB. Why did she pursue/pretend to pursue Schwartz? It was seen as a girl code violation when we thought she was interested in him, and chose to pursue him anyway. But she wasn’t even interested, so why do it? I agree with you—there’s no way to see her as a victim in that scenario. In hindsight, knowing she had zero interest in Schwartz, it seems much worse. She used Schwartz, and she fucked with Katie’s emotions for sport. Not nice.

I am still way back at Season 3, so I'm only going by memory for Seasons 5 - 9, I don't recall Katie being a Mean Girl to Raquel. In Vegas - yes - she laughed at the galaxy lights - but being a mean girl the way she's been to Scheana - no.

Katie also invited Raquel to Vegas. Katie is close to Lala and knows Lala does not like Raquel, and she still extended the invite to Raquel. Raquel saying she was never friends with Katie and had no interest in being friends with her - doesn't make sense to me. Why go to Vegas then? If she truly felt that way about Katie - then saying yes to the invite means she's a user.

As a side note, I don't think Raquel was in a MH facility. Her family doesn't have the money. A one month in patient facility would cost about 100K per month - 3 months 300K - no way. I say this because if they had money, they would have rented her a nice apartment while she filmed VPR. She moved in with James - if the parents watched the show, they wouldn't have wanted her under the same roof with James. Then when she broke off with James, she moved in with Scheana. The studio that has been shown on VPR is not hers - it is used specifically for the days of filming. So if you can't afford to rent a furnished studio for $2000 a month no way can they afford an in patient MH facility.

[Jel]

1 hour ago, KungFuBunny said:

I am still way back at Season 3, so I'm only going by memory for Seasons 5 - 9, I don't recall Katie being a Mean Girl to Raquel. In Vegas - yes - she laughed at the galaxy lights - but being a mean girl the way she's been to Scheana - no.

Katie also invited Raquel to Vegas. Katie is close to Lala and knows Lala does not like Raquel, and she still extended the invite to Raquel. Raquel saying she was never friends with Katie and had no interest in being friends with her - doesn't make sense to me. Why go to Vegas then? If she truly felt that way about Katie - then saying yes to the invite means she's a user.

As a side note, I don't think Raquel was in a MH facility. Her family doesn't have the money. A one month in patient facility would cost about 100K per month - 3 months 300K - no way. I say this because if they had money, they would have rented her a nice apartment while she filmed VPR. She moved in with James - if the parents watched the show, they wouldn't have wanted her under the same roof with James. Then when she broke off with James, she moved in with Scheana. The studio that has been shown on VPR is not hers - it is used specifically for the days of filming. So if you can't afford to rent a furnished studio for $2000 a month no way can they afford an in patient MH facility.

Do you think it’s possible that Bravo is paying?

[KungFuBunny]

18 minutes ago, Jel said:

Do you think it’s possible that Bravo is paying?

Bravo would never foot the bill. Remember Raquel is all about the surface. If she had access to money, she'd use it for a better nose job or other procedures. I think it was Hoodoozy who noticed the tag still attached to that reunion outfit - I doubt the cost of that outfit was over $1000

I think she may have gone to a facility to check out costs and have someone on her team take a picture of her entering, and probably another day, a picture of her leaving. She's been hiding at her parents in Tucson.

[hoodooznoodooz]

1 hour ago, KungFuBunny said:

Bravo would never foot the bill. Remember Raquel is all about the surface. If she had access to money, she'd use it for a better nose job or other procedures. I think it was Hoodoozy who noticed the tag still attached to that reunion outfit - I doubt the cost of that outfit was over $1000

I think she may have gone to a facility to check out costs and have someone on her team take a picture of her entering, and probably another day, a picture of her leaving. She's been hiding at her parents in Tucson.

So nice of you to give me credit. But I think someone else posted about the tags before I did. I can’t watch live. I usually watch at 10 pm.