S06.E02: Future Worf and the Margarita of the South Pacific

[proserpina65]

On 10/7/2022 at 11:33 PM, HurricaneVal said:

Mary was just an ego experiment for him, could his charisma pull this upstanding Christian prig under his spell?  He doesn't care about Mary, he cares about how he can manipulate Mary for his own ego

I completely disagree with this.  I think Pastor Rob does have feelings for Mary.  I really hope the show doesn't go there, but I believe the interest is at least somewhat mutual.

On 10/9/2022 at 10:48 AM, Elizabeth Anne said:

He did, and there was also at least a few references prior to that about Mary wanting to be a grandmother.  I am guessing though since they've clearly handwaved away a lot of what we're told about the Cooper family on BBT that this is yet another thing they've decided to ignore.  I just wish they'd decided to ignore the George is an adulterer storyline but this episode seemed to strongly hint that his attraction to Brenda is something they are going to explore further.  

Or something will happen to the pregnancy.  It's still fairly early on.

[Bethany]

29 minutes ago, proserpina65 said:

Or something will happen to the pregnancy.  It's still fairly early on.

Much as I dislike this storyline I actually hope they don't do that.  Usually sitcom pregnancies that lead nowhere are dispensed with in a single episode they don't drag on and on.  Given the sad and serious turns this show has taken I wouldn't bet they won't go down the miscarriage road but I'd be surprised.  

[proserpina65]

44 minutes ago, Elizabeth Anne said:

Much as I dislike this storyline I actually hope they don't do that.  Usually sitcom pregnancies that lead nowhere are dispensed with in a single episode they don't drag on and on.  Given the sad and serious turns this show has taken I wouldn't bet they won't go down the miscarriage road but I'd be surprised.  

Yeah, I don't know that I'd want it to go that direction, but it is an option.

[Chit Chat]

2 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

I think Pastor Rob does have feelings for Mary.  I really hope the show doesn't go there, but I believe the interest is at least somewhat mutual.

George almost cheats and Mary could end up having an emotional affair.  Great.  Just what I want in a comedy.  Pfffttt.

[proserpina65]

19 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

George almost cheats and Mary could end up having an emotional affair.  Great.  Just what I want in a comedy.  Pfffttt.

Eh, I'm fine with it in a comedy.  I'd just rather not see both George and Mary have affairs, even if hers is only emotional.

[Chit Chat]

43 minutes ago, proserpina65 said:

I'd just rather not see both George and Mary have affairs, even if hers is only emotional.

Emotional affairs can be just as damaging as physical ones.  They both need to see a counselor or therapist ASAP!!  I figured the "cute factor" would be gone from this show once the kids started to grow up, and for me, that time has come.  What was a funny show is quickly running off the rails due to some of the storylines.  Sigh.

[Tom Holmberg]

19 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

I completely disagree with this.  I think Pastor Rob does have feelings for Mary.  I really hope the show doesn't go there, but I believe the interest is at least somewhat mutual.

Or something will happen to the pregnancy.  It's still fairly early on.

I predicted way back when Pastor Rob was introduced that somehow he was going to end up as a "bad guy".  That hasn't happened yet, though I still think they could go that way.

[Bethany]

If they can keep Mary's "interest" in Pastor Rob light then I wouldn't call it emotional cheating or an emotional affair.  A married person being aware of an attractive person, especially someone they work with (as opposed to George Clooney!) isn't exactly unusual.  There's a line you just would never cross and the character of Mary, up to now anyway, would never cross that line. They've done a somewhat good job of showing where both Mary and George are at fault in terms of the marriage being a troubled one - but if somehow they turn all the memories Sheldon had on BBT into nothing because they want to make Mary the bad guy in the marriage I am out of this show for good!

[proserpina65]

16 hours ago, ChitChat said:

Emotional affairs can be just as damaging as physical ones.  They both need to see a counselor or therapist ASAP!!  I figured the "cute factor" would be gone from this show once the kids started to grow up, and for me, that time has come.  What was a funny show is quickly running off the rails due to some of the storylines.  Sigh.

For me it was never about the "cute factor" and I still find the show quite funny, so I'm enjoying this season so far.

6 minutes ago, Elizabeth Anne said:

If they can keep Mary's "interest" in Pastor Rob light then I wouldn't call it emotional cheating or an emotional affair.  A married person being aware of an attractive person, especially someone they work with (as opposed to George Clooney!) isn't exactly unusual.  There's a line you just would never cross and the character of Mary, up to now anyway, would never cross that line

Exactly.  Right now she has a crush.  A lot of people have those.  At this point I don't see her stepping over the line into an emotional affair and I hope they don't go there.

[Chit Chat]

4 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

At this point I don't see her stepping over the line into an emotional affair and I hope they don't go there.

I'm hoping they keep it like it is too.  I'm glad you're enjoying the show.  I wish I could say the same, but I won't give up just yet!!  :)

[ItCouldBeWorse]

On 10/10/2022 at 5:24 PM, proserpina65 said:

Yeah, I don't know that I'd want it to go that direction, but it is an option.

Adoption.

[Sarah 103]

15 hours ago, ItCouldBeWorse said:

Adoption.

Yes, except that Mandy has made it very clear that for whatever reason, she is determined to keep the baby. 

[SnarkySheep]

On 10/8/2022 at 8:20 PM, rmontro said:

I would have also guessed Mary at early 40s, but Zoe Perry is 39.  So the actors aren't too far apart, but who knows how old the characters are supposed to be?

Well, they had Georgie as teens, right? I can't recall a specific age given, so let's say Mary was 18 when Georgie was born. He's mentioned still being 17/underage, so with that plus nearly an additional year of Mary's pregnancy, that would make Mary currently 36/37.

[Bethany]

5 hours ago, SnarkySheep said:

Well, they had Georgie as teens, right? I can't recall a specific age given, so let's say Mary was 18 when Georgie was born. He's mentioned still being 17/underage, so with that plus nearly an additional year of Mary's pregnancy, that would make Mary currently 36/37.

I know on BBT it is established that Mary didn't have Georgie until she was somewhere in her 20s (just saw an episode last night where she talks about how wild she was when she was Penny's age, which since this was the 5th season would have made Penny about 26).  On YS though you are given the impression Mary is still living at home when she marries George, which doesn't mean she couldn't be in her mid-twenties of course but somehow the way Connie talks about things you feel Mary is younger than that.

[SnarkySheep]

18 hours ago, Elizabeth Anne said:

I know on BBT it is established that Mary didn't have Georgie until she was somewhere in her 20s (just saw an episode last night where she talks about how wild she was when she was Penny's age, which since this was the 5th season would have made Penny about 26).  On YS though you are given the impression Mary is still living at home when she marries George, which doesn't mean she couldn't be in her mid-twenties of course but somehow the way Connie talks about things you feel Mary is younger than that.

Well, it could possibly fall under one of those forgotten/retconned things (although IMO this is too major a plot point for that). Kind of like in the very beginning it was mentioned that Mary was one of three kids. Where are they now? Connie has never even mentioned them.

[freeser]

4 hours ago, SnarkySheep said:

 Kind of like in the very beginning it was mentioned that Mary was one of three kids. Where are they now? Connie has never even mentioned them.

One time when George and Connie were having a fight, George said to Connie that Mary was the only one of her children that still talked to her.  That is the only time that I recall there was ever a mention of any of Mary's siblings.  

[anna0852]

Mary also mentioned her siblings back in Season 1. She and Connie were arguing and Mary brought up 'making dinner for Charlene and Edward' more times than Connie did.

[possibilities]

Didn't George say something about how Mary is too young for "the change" recently? If so, that definitely puts her age in focus.

[Quof]

21 minutes ago, anna0852 said:

Mary brought up 'making dinner for Charlene and Edward' more times than Connie did.

AKA Stumpy