S06.E06: The World Turned Upside Down

[kwnyc]

Also, how has NO ONE brought up the fact that "The World Turned Upside Down" is a song from Hamilton about the Americans finally winning the Battle of Yorktown? I can't be the only theater nerd here! (It was reportedly performed by the British soldiers as they were making their retreat).

[Eureka]

6 minutes ago, kwnyc said:

Also, how has NO ONE brought up the fact that "The World Turned Upside Down" is a song from Hamilton about the Americans finally winning the Battle of Yorktown? I can't be the only theater nerd here! (It was reportedly performed by the British soldiers as they were making their retreat).

Just now, Eureka said:

That was weird, my response didn’t show up at all. But nope, you’re not the only one that noticed the stolen Hamilton lyric. Unless that was a real song back then that was reimagined by LMM?

Edited April 12, 2022 by Eureka
My response doesn’t appear!

[Noneofyourbusiness]

49 minutes ago, kwnyc said:

Also, how has NO ONE brought up the fact that "The World Turned Upside Down" is a song from Hamilton about the Americans finally winning the Battle of Yorktown? I can't be the only theater nerd here! (It was reportedly performed by the British soldiers as they were making their retreat).

Blasphemy, I know, but I've never seen Hamilton.

[SassAndSnacks]

52 minutes ago, Eureka said:

Unless that was a real song back then that was reimagined by LMM?

It was.  It didn't originate with Hamilton (which I haven't actually scene either).  It was a British folk song and had been used in England since the 1600s.  No one really knows if the Brits sung it as they fell at Yorktown.  They probably didn't, but it has become American folklore because it is appropriate for such a historical event - the world's most potent military power is trounced by a bunch of farmers, shopkeepers and regular guys doing extraordinary things in a battle that basically ends the Revolutionary War.  The World as it was then, was Turned Upside Down.  A bunch of upstart rebels overthrew the most powerful country in the world at that time. 

[kwnyc]

...Alexander Hamilton was, in fact, the illegitimate grandson of a Scottish laird. He could be a Fraser cousin! ;-)

[gaelgirl]

17 hours ago, Eureka said:

That was weird, my response didn’t show up at all. But nope, you’re not the only one that noticed the stolen Hamilton lyric. Unless that was a real song back then that was reimagined by LMM?

There is a folk song about the Diggers Revolt in 1649 called The World Turned Upside Down, long before LMM came up with the lyric for Hamilton. And there's a chapter in ABOSAA titled The World Turned Upside Down, as well. :)

Regarding Lexington and Concord, in the book, in the early morning hours, Roger and Bree have a conversation about it, with Bree reciting The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere, and Roger stating he would give anything to be there right then, instead of tucked away on the Ridge

[SassAndSnacks]

People - My best friend, who doesn't know he's my best friend, just recapped this episode.  Like Malva, I'm dead.  (Too soon?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udEBIYbDrAI

[WatchrTina]

11 hours ago, SassAndSnacks said:

People - My best friend, who doesn't know he's my best friend, just recapped this episode.

Oh THANK you for sharing that!  Can I quote the best line?  He offers some unsolicited advice regarding Jamie's out-of-the-blue decision to confess to Claire about his night in the cave with Mary MacNab saying, "Brother you got to take some stuff TO THE GRAVE!!!"

Edited April 14, 2022 by WatchrTina

[Noneofyourbusiness]

"You a pallbearer, you got paid this episode!"

"Jamie, you gotta stop admitting how great you are."

[Ziggy]

On 4/11/2022 at 11:20 PM, NJRadioGuy said:

I find these melodramatic Dire Perils Of Our Heroes™ to be tiring by now, and it takes away from the overall storytelling. I do wish they'd move the pace along a bit faster. Just as Lady Stoneheart was cut from Game of Thrones, Malva and Tom Christie could just as easily have been dropped completely from the story, especially since the war starting is a complete game changer overall, and nothing except Tom Christie's interactions with Jaime at Ardsmuir really adds to the characters' stories in my view. And as much as we all loathe Tom Christie, the actor portraying him, Mark Lewis Jones, is doing so brilliantly. I'd love to see him on stage. He knows how to command a scene.

Interesting ...

I get that not everyone reads the book or watches the show for the same reasons, but to me Outlander is the story of the Frasers. The war is the backdrop, so I would have been livid if they cut out this story of the Christies.