BonnieD December 9, 2020 Share December 9, 2020 Watching episode 4 it finally hit me (about the time trucker guy poured cereal over "mom's" head) that she is already dead and only lives on his mind. Anyone else agree with this? She is always in the house with him, never shown with another character as far as I can recall. Which would be true of a shut-in anyhow, but I'm quite certain this much used twist is going to be revealed soon. 1 Link to comment
iRarelyWatchTV36 December 9, 2020 Share December 9, 2020 (edited) I'm only putting this out there so I have proof to show people later when I say "guessed it!". Without even having watched a single second yet - but have been following episode discussions - I could be waaaaay off-base here [and the death is 1000% undebateable (IE, constant scenes with his lifeless body, that has an unsurvivable wound)], but I would not be the least bit surprised if Ryan Phillippe's character is not actually dead, but will show up alive again at some point. I just find it a little hard to believe that a 'big' name like that is only used for 1 episode and then some occasional flashback work (unless the flashbacks have been used much more frequently and longer than just brief glimpses of the past). If he was shot while out of frame, dragged off like dead and hasn't been seen since, I'd wager he's not actually deceased (yet). Remember the rule of thumb when it comes to TV, movies, and books; no body or incontrovertible proof of death, means they're not necessarily dead (yet). Yes, this RoT usually applies more to villains than non-villains, but the 'good guys' are not exempt. Edited December 9, 2020 by iRarelyWatchTV36 Link to comment
Suzysite December 9, 2020 Share December 9, 2020 2 hours ago, iRarelyWatchTV36 said: If he was shot while out of frame, dragged off like dead and hasn't been seen since, I'd wager he's not actually deceased Welp, I'd say getting shot in the head at close range where his head basically splattered on the truck window, and then being buried in a pit, truck and all, is a good indication that he's really most sincerely dead. 4 3 Link to comment
sempervivum December 9, 2020 Share December 9, 2020 Not sure why Ep. 4 isn't up for discussion yet. It does look like Ryan Phillipe has other projects going on Upcoming for RP , so it doesn't seem impossible that this role is just an extended cameo. Link to comment
meira.hand December 9, 2020 Share December 9, 2020 6 hours ago, BonnieD said: Watching episode 4 it finally hit me (about the time trucker guy poured cereal over "mom's" head) that she is already dead and only lives on his mind. Anyone else agree with this? She is always in the house with him, never shown with another character as far as I can recall. Which would be true of a shut-in anyhow, but I'm quite certain this much used twist is going to be revealed soon He talked about her questioning him with Legarski (the State Trooper) so she is very real. 3 Link to comment
Maverick December 9, 2020 Share December 9, 2020 Not necessarily. Legarski may have never met his mother and only has his word she's alive. 1 Link to comment
readster December 9, 2020 Share December 9, 2020 58 minutes ago, Maverick said: Not necessarily. Legarski may have never met his mother and only has his word she's alive. Legarski also may know about what really happened, so in his mind, he is humoring him. Because he might end up the same way and might not be fast enough with the gun. Plus, he might have covered it up with him. Link to comment
saber5055 December 10, 2020 Share December 10, 2020 No thread for episode 4, so I'll say here ... where did those maggots in a can of Spam come from? Is that what the girls are being given to eat, five-month-old rotten Spam pulled out of some dumpster? It was impossible for me to believe the two women couldn't hear the three girls in the trailer who were shouting and yelling at the top of their lungs. The girl in the trailer heard the women walking or opening/closing a door, yet the women couldn't hear the girls screaming, even though that barn is just plain boards and the trailer isn't insulated. Too far fetched. The cop is going to hammer his wife to death while she's asleep in her bed? Alrighty then. Ronald hitting on the former Erica Hahn was way creepy. But I guess he looks good compared to her husband who's going to kill her before Ronald can. Totally did not get the investigator women stealing pillows from truckers to test for DNA. So extremely out there, I'm hoping the writers were just trying to kill time and weren't serious. Next week: The finale already. My vote: Mom is alive. Ryan is dead. Like, REALLY dead. 7 Link to comment
iRarelyWatchTV36 December 10, 2020 Share December 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Suzysite said: Welp, I'd say getting shot in the head at close range where his head basically splattered on the truck window, and then being buried in a pit, truck and all, is a good indication that he's really most sincerely dead. I'll leave my spec there - just in case - but yeah, that does seem sincere. Gotta say, other than a show like The Walking Dead, that's admittedly a fairly bold move to kill off the 'main' guy that got most of the focus on the previews leading up to the series premiere, at the end of the series premeire. Link to comment
Madding crowd December 10, 2020 Share December 10, 2020 I have a phobia about maggots so I had to close my eyes during those scenes! I still can’t believe they wouldn’t just kill those girls, especially the injured one. And yes the PI women should have have heard them screaming. I agree with Saber5055; mom alive, Ryan dead. Everyone acts so weird in this show so the mom doesn’t seem like a real person but neither does her son. 4 Link to comment
saber5055 December 10, 2020 Share December 10, 2020 49 minutes ago, Madding crowd said: Everyone acts so weird in this show Yeah, this show isn't exactly great PR for Montana tourism. 3 1 Link to comment
BonnieD December 10, 2020 Author Share December 10, 2020 Quote Legarski may have never met his mother and only has his word she's alive. That was my thinking. He could know this guy well enough to go into "business" together without really knowing the particulars about Mommy Dearest. For that matter, maybe she wasn't dead when he and trucker guy started their work together and has been killed since. Soon both men will have the women in their lives on ice up in their bedroom. I also was frowning about the maggotty spam. So unlikely. They'd want to keep these women healthy prior to delivery, and since little sis has proven such a problem AND is injured, they would definitely have eliminated her by now. 2 Link to comment
sempervivum December 10, 2020 Share December 10, 2020 Yeah, hate-watching at this point. So many discrepancies and ridiculous plot points. I probably eye-rolled the hardest at the way previously tongue-tied weirdo Ronald suddenly became a smooth operator with Rick's wife (forgot her name). 2 1 Link to comment
Dowel Jones February 3, 2021 Share February 3, 2021 I'm curious as to why Brooke Smith is listed as a guest star. That doesn't bode well for Merrilee. Link to comment
SueB December 8, 2022 Share December 8, 2022 Bringing this over from S3 Ep9: this was my post Ep 8 list, I’m keeping a running total of how well I’m doing: as of Ep 10 - jump to bottom for new Just for fun So I posted my speculation in the previous episode just prior to tonight’s episode I’ll give a ‘tally’ of how I did: THEORIES: Killers Bleeding Heart: Buck sniffing the blood — I like him for the entire Bleeding Heart murder spree. (10/10) Walter knows but Sunny doesn’t.(10/10) on Sunny, unknown on Walter (tbd - to be determined) Buck is also mental. (10/10) And Buck knows Walter knows It’s why he’s framing him (tbd) Luke: Buck, again. He wanted him silenced. (tbd - but I like my chances)Future Deaths Avery: By Possum. (tbd and tbd - Possum may be gone) I’m pretty sure Avery was involved in the crypto scheme BEFORE the camping trip. (Wrong! 0/10) I think he took the family on the trip as a cover to go after Paige & Luke. Remember, he went into Paige & Luke’s tent BEFORE Paige went missing. But he doesn’t know the sequence. Which is why he simply didn’t take the journal before. Cormac: By Buck. (Tbd and tbd - but I don’t like Cormac’s chances). Sunny has a buttload of Karma coming her way. That wonderful young man is gonna die. And it’ll be awful. And it’ll be an accident but he’ll die none-the-less. My Irrational Fear That they kill off Beau. This show is a hen house and he’s a rooster. It’s a problem. (tbd) Revealed Secrets Carla de Lugo: That she met Avery while defending him from some slimy business deal and she knows he’s corrupt. That’s why the overreaction to the SEC news. And that’s why Avery is leaving camp, because he knows he may not get her back. He’s cutting and running. (0/10 - she just apparently has a big issue with his lying. 0/10 Avery didn’t run — feels like there is a continuity error in the last shot of him walking with a packed backpack and no fallout at the camp) Avery: As stated, was involved even before the camping trip. Beau is going to loose his shit. (Repeat) Beau: Carla spilled the beans on the worst of it. But there’s more there on how his partner died. (tbd - lots of manpain but not clear how much of a story it will be) Sunny: She’s just a lying liar who lies. She makes too many mistakes to be a frequent killer. (10/10) Next Episode: Possum & company start killing glampers. They don’t care about body count. (-10/10 I was so completely wrong, I’m going to take points away — poor dead ranger isn’t even mentioned!) Ep 9 tally = (40 - 10)/80 or 37.5% with 8 tbd’s left. EP 10 update: still 8 open tbd’s. I like my chances on 6 of 8. NEW SPECULATION as of Ep10: Future Dead (adds) Chemistry-Challenged Carla is going up on the list. Right now she a blocker to Jenny/Beau. If she’s dead that blocker lasts longer. So this ALL depends on if Jensen is coming back for a S4 (if the show gets a S4). If Avery dies (really likely) and Carla dies (maybe), then we’ve got handsome single Dad Beau living in his grief. He could move back to Texas. Or he could stay. Sunny: She’s looking desperate. Cormac will die first, but his mother will follow is my guess. She’s afraid of Buck. who would kill her as she tries to kill him. In short, this is not going to end well. Jimmy’s henchman. Romances: Cassie/Cormac are sooooo sleeping together. And soon. Jenny/Beau: that little ‘might have been’ is going to be left hanging around for a while. I don’t see payoff here soon, maybe never. Broken-hearted makes good drama. Jail: Beau - or death Jimmy SLIDING BY: Donno and Tonya - they are too fun to kill off or jail Link to comment
MAK December 9, 2022 Share December 9, 2022 7 hours ago, SueB said: SLIDING BY: Donno and Tonya - they are too fun to kill off or jail These two will be last ones standing. They will go on and feed all of Helena with awesome sandwiches and pie while keeping all of the criminals at bay. 1 1 Link to comment
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