Industry - General Discussion

[aghst]

So many betrayals, hard to keep count.

Harper pesters Gus like a chihuahua, finally gets him to tell her what she wanted to know.

I don't think Bloom could move markets or governments like that.  There are billionaires who go on CNBC every day, with their agendas.  They might make a tiny bit of movement but nothing like depicted here.  Why would the UK govt. be bothered by some American hedge fund guy telling them how they should handle a potential merger?

But Aurore is happy, she moves up to a cabinet post, dumps Gus, who lands on his feet so he can take off on Jesse's private jet to NY.

Harper and Eric are ready to stick a knife in the back of DVD and Rishi and Harper thinks she's fucking Rishi over.

Little did she know.

Eric always had the undergraduate degree thing n his back pocket.  He struck first before she could.

Figures that the firm will use that to fire Harper rather than the insider trading, because that transaction made the firm a lot of money and if they fired Harper over it, they might invite regulatory scrutiny.

Yasmin, lived rent-free in her father's in a multimillion dollar home in central London, used his bank accounts.  But she didn't think she could alienate her POS father.  She really had to try both doors and call him to find out?

Somehow I don't think daddy's girl would ever call him out like that in public -- or anywhere else.  She can't be oblivious about what Celeste would do, given a choice between her father and her.  And he was even more blunt, she had average grades in a middling university so how did she think she got a job at Pierpoint in the first place?

Well she tried to forge her own path, or thought she was.  But that path includes batting her eyelashes at Rob to score her some coke, even though she's homeless and broke.

I hope there's another season.  It would suck if most of the men landed on their feet but the two lead female characters end up dumped out into the cold streets.

Daria lost her job at Pierpoint trying to do the right thing.  Then she landed an even better job at Yankee.  You would think she might be an example for Harper and Yasmin or at least a model for pursuing a different path than the ones they've been following?

[AntFTW]

3 hours ago, aghst said:

I don't think Bloom could move markets or governments like that.  There are billionaires who go on CNBC every day, with their agendas.  They might make a tiny bit of movement but nothing like depicted here.

Well, not the entire market, just two stocks.

Bloom is portrayed as a Warren Buffett-kind of market mover in the sense that Warren Buffett buying or selling a stock can cause a much higher buying spree or selloff from other investors that follow his moves (because there are quite a lot that do).

Someone would have to be so revered that people would follow their move. That's not a sense that I get from the character that is Jesse Bloom.

3 hours ago, aghst said:

Why would the UK govt. be bothered by some American hedge fund guy telling them how they should handle a potential merger?

The idea, I think, is that he just has to put it out there. I got the sense that the government thought that no one would notice if the government doesn't go through with this probe, and there wouldn't be any noise. Now, here is a guy on TV making noise and bringing attention to it. Now, they have to do it just because people are now watching. Is CNN big in the UK? I believe he was on CNN.

3 hours ago, aghst said:

Eric always had the undergraduate degree thing n his back pocket.  He struck first before she could.

I think Harper can land on her feet because she has Bloom. She definitely has him now, without question.

Having Jesse Bloom makes her invaluable to another firm. However, she may have to get over that college degree hump again. Some other firm may not even care.

3 hours ago, aghst said:

Figures that the firm will use that to fire Harper rather than the insider trading, because that transaction made the firm a lot of money and if they fired Harper over it, they might invite regulatory scrutiny.

As far we know, no one knows but Eric. Do they ever imply that he told anyone else? I thought he was telling Harper to shut up because he didn't tell anyone.

Thinking just within the framework of the show, I can see them getting out of the insider trading stuff because Jesse Bloom already owned a controlling stake in Rican, and therefore, should already have some research or reasoning for buying more of a stock or doubling down on his position. He would have made money on both sides anyway.

3 hours ago, aghst said:

Daria lost her job at Pierpoint trying to do the right thing.  Then she landed an even better job at Yankee.  You would think she might be an example for Harper and Yasmin or at least a model for pursuing a different path than the ones they've been following?

They thought they were special. 🤣

Edited September 20, 2022 by AntFTW

[qtpye]

2 hours ago, aghst said:

Somehow I don't think daddy's girl would ever call him out like that in public -- or anywhere else.  She can't be oblivious about what Celeste would do, given a choice between her father and her.  And he was even more blunt, she had average grades in a middling university so how did she think she got a job at Pierpoint in the first place?

I had a feeling that they were going to strip Yaz of her money and privilege. I just thought it would be through some giant scandal with her father. Did she really think her boss would back her and her father would keep paying for her lifestyle after she told him off?

Her boss has Epstein people as clients and does not care.

Rob being so susceptible to Yaz's charms is getting annoying. She obviously does not care about him.

I am sure the Yaz and Harper will be okay next season. Harper has Bloom and Yaz can probably stay with her until she lands on her feet.

[Sheenieb]

12 hours ago, qtpye said:

Rob being so susceptible to Yaz's charms is getting annoying. She obviously does not care about him.

Yeah, Rob's self-esteem is in the toilet in general, but it's in the septic tank when Yas comes around. It was absolutely baffling to me that she was more concerned about scoring coke than I don't know, calling a locksmith to get into the house so she can get her things.

Oof, Yas's dad gave her some real talk. Her paycheck from Pierpoint should be more than enough to rent an apartment, but since she didn't have the foresight to open her own account, she's screwed. This will finally light a fire under her ass. 

Yas and Rob aren't that different regarding their value to the bank. They're both middle of the pack. Rob shouldn't have made it through RIF, but he skated by because he's liked by the clients. I would've liked to see him lean in to that this season and stand out, but he was at the CPS desk like a deer in the headlights. I get that he has a working class background and now he's in rarefied air, but he's still an outsider. We've seen that before, but I'd hoped we'd get a more confident Rob this season on the desk. Instead, he's basically prostituting himself to Nicole.

Wow, Eric didn't come to play. Now THAT's playing the long game. I wonder if Eric always planned to play the forged transcripts card after Harper blew up his Felim relationship or if he decided to do it once he saw how easy it was for her to throw DVD and Rishi under the bus. He could hand wave the Felim thing as the cost of doing business, but taking meetings with Shogan as a united front only to toss DVD and Rishi aside for her own survival was probably a bridge too far for Eric. 

Edited September 20, 2022 by Sheenieb

[aghst]

Rob did go to Oxford.  But I forget what happened with him in season 1.

He fits the profile of the people these banks hire more than Yasmin or Harper though.

[AntFTW]

3 hours ago, Sheenieb said:

He could handwave the Felim thing as the cost of doing business, but taking meetings with Shogan as a united front only to toss DVD and Rishi aside for her own survival was probably a bridge too far for Eric. 

I thought he genuinely would have gone with Rishi, DVD, and Harper to a new shop if that goal came to be.

I thought Shogun was a no-go once Harper backed out because Harper held the most valuable part of the deal, which was Bloom. Without Harper, there was no Shogun for any of them.

The only choice remaining for all of them was to jump ship over to Shogun together, or play their hand with Pierpoint and hope they didn't get axed. Since Shogun was now off the table because Harper was not willing to go back to NY, Eric and Harper decided to play their hand with Pierpoint. That was the only option that remained on the table for Eric.

Edited September 20, 2022 by AntFTW

[Sheenieb]

2 hours ago, AntFTW said:

I thought he genuinely would have gone with Rishi, DVD, and Harper to a new shop if that goal came to be.

I thought Shogun was a no-go once Harper backed out because Harper held the most valuable part of the deal, which was Bloom. Without Harper, there was no Shogun for any of them.

The only choice remaining for all of them was to jump ship over to Shogun together, or play their hand with Pierpoint and hope they didn't get axed. Since, Shogun was now off the table because Harper was not willing to go back to NY, Eric and Harper decided to play their hand with Pierpoint. That was the only option that remained on the table for Eric.

Right, I know that was the plan. They didn't want to go to New York, but it was telling during the meeting when Harper told Adler to fire Rishi and DVD that Eric looked at her like, 😒. At least that was my interpretation. Sure, they were out to save their own asses and stay in London, but it was easy for Harper to do whatever necessary to get rid of DVD and Rishi, so that's why I'm wondering if Eric was always going to blow Harper up to HR about her transcripts as payback for Felim, or if he decided to use that nugget because he saw during the meeting how ruthless she is. 

Harper's firing was a nice bookend to Eric's "promotion." Harper forging her transcript is a teardrop in the HR minefield that is Pierpoint. It didn't matter that she brought millions in to the bank. Just like how Eric's achievements didn't matter in the long run, either. 

[aghst]

I think Eric always had the transcripts in his back pocket.

But he saw that if she could stab DVD and Rishi in the back, why wouldn't she do the same to him eventually?

Like I said, he pulled the trigger before she could.

[Lassus]

I mean, the finale worked as torture porn; but other then that I admit it's hard for me to see the point.

I love the actors, I just could only barely watch everyone being awful all the time.  The show could have taken a serious lesson from the Wire and have a few people to root for and come out in favor of.

Edited September 20, 2022 by Lassus

[Lassus]

3 hours ago, aghst said:

But he saw that if she could stab DVD and Rishi in the back, why wouldn't she do the same to him eventually?

Like I said, he pulled the trigger before she could.

Seemed more like revenge to me, but sure, either way.

[xaxat]

Revenge of the Olds! Celeste, Yasmin's dad, Nicole, and Eric showed their younger counterparts how the "real" world, for better or worse (mostly worse) works.

I agree with those who say that Eric was playing the long game. His scene early this season where he obediently gave her info she requested was part of the setup. He was going to give her enough rope to hang herself.

19 hours ago, AntFTW said:

Having Jesse Bloom makes her invaluable to another firm.

I don't think she has Bloom in her pocket. He used her because he sensed her desperation to keep him as a client and determined he could use her to help him in a ethically/legally deal. He made his play, she is done.

3 hours ago, aghst said:

But he saw that if she could stab DVD and Rishi in the back, why wouldn't she do the same to him eventually?

She already did, with Felim. 

36 minutes ago, Lassus said:

The show could have taken a serious lesson from the Wire and have a few people to root for and come out in favor of.

I consider The Wire the best TV show ever. But who was there to root for? Much like this show (no real comparison) I think you have people living a a real world that is hard to navigate.

One detail on this show that really bugs me is Bloom's basketball hoop. You put the counterweight on the backside! He's going to break up his ankle the way he has it set up. I would gladly fix the situation, no fee, in exchange for a free flight to London and accommodations at a 5 star hotel.

[WaffleQueen]

One hell of a finale. Wouldn’t mind if it’s a series ender.

Edited September 21, 2022 by WaffleQueen

[aghst]

Jesse doesn't trust Harper.

He'll use her for inside information but he doesn't trust her.

Even if he hasn't seen Harper double-cross her colleagues, he knows she's a snake.

That is why he's filthy rich and the other characters are not.

[AntFTW]

2 minutes ago, xaxat said:

I don't think she has Bloom in her pocket. He used her because he sensed her desperation to keep him as a client and determined he could use her to help him in a ethically/legally deal. He made his play, she is done.

Maybe, but another firm doesn't have to know that, if she had chosen to go to another firm. As far as anyone else knows, she's covering Bloom.

[aghst]

3 minutes ago, WaffleQueen said:

One hell of a finale. Wouldn’t mind if it’s a series ender.

It doesn't have boffo ratings like Succession or House of the Dragon or White Lotus or Euphoria.

And with Zaslav in charge, it may not get renewed.

If it isn't renewed, hope that Apple TV + would sign up the creators of this show but Apple is trying to be family-oriented so they probably never would have put on a show like Industry.

Maybe they can create a PG-13 show for the big Apple money.

[xaxat]

1 minute ago, AntFTW said:

Maybe, but another firm doesn't have to know that, if she had chosen to go to another firm. As far as anyone else knows, she's covering Bloom.

But Daria's company (Yankee) apparently has a connection with Bloom. 

[AntFTW]

12 minutes ago, xaxat said:

But Daria's company (Yankee) apparently has a connection with Bloom. 

Apparently so does Goldman but no one can say that they are covering him. He clearly didn't listen to Daria's advice to get out of that short position because he was still in his short position that Harper facilitated.

His subsequent doubling down on Rican was Harper, after the meeting with the "Yankees." No one can claim they covered Bloom, even after that meeting, except Harper.

No one else, not even Daria, can say that they've gotten billions of Bloom's business.

Edited September 21, 2022 by AntFTW

[aghst]

Other firms, especially Daria, wouldn't feed him inside information.

Nor do anything shady.

Funny thing is these banks spend a lot of money to have research done about different industries, analyze financial statements and balance sheets.

But on these show, they saw them more as salespeople and didn't present any research to clients, they just offered trades which would be profitable but nothing having to do with business fundamentals and so forth.

[AntFTW]

11 minutes ago, aghst said:

Other firms, especially Daria, wouldn't feed him inside information.

Nor do anything shady.

Another example of Harper choosing Bloom over the firm. Harper executing the stock purchases puts the firm at risk, and she executes anyway.

[Lassus]

24 minutes ago, xaxat said:

I consider The Wire the best TV show ever. But who was there to root for? Much like this show (no real comparison) I think you have people living a a real world that is hard to navigate.

I understand it's not the fairest comparison of all time, but even the questionable characters were working for a definable greater good outside themselves.  And outside of every McNulty and Omar there was a Cutty, Sydnor, Bunk, Daniels, etc.

This show had maybe Gus, but the only greater good otherwise was ME.  It was just too tiresome.  I suppose at the end you had Jasmine standing up for decency, but oy.  It just got to be too much.

[ChickenFingers25]

Jesse checking Harper for that wire felt like more than just that. Not in a sexual way, but still affectionate. Wasn't sure what to make of it.

[Marley]

I thought Jesse and Harper were going to start having sex during that wire moment. Everyone seems to fuck everyone in this show so it wouldn’t be a surprise.

I don’t like Gus or his stupid smug face so more of him and Jesse and probably Jesse’s little dbag son is not something I look forward to if the show comes back.

I wasn’t that shocked when Eric turned on Harper it def seemed like it was coming since he called her saying the plan was a go.

I like the show but don’t at the same time. I need better storylines.

Why do they all dread NYC so much?

Edited September 21, 2022 by Marley

[dmc]

13 hours ago, ChickenFingers25 said:

Jesse checking Harper for that wire felt like more than just that. Not in a sexual way, but still affectionate. Wasn't sure what to make of it.

10 hours ago, Marley said:

I thought Jesse and Harper were going to start having sex during that wire moment. Everyone seems to fuck everyone in this show so it wouldn’t be a surprise.

I don’t like Gus or his stupid smug face so more of him and Jesse and probably Jesse’s little dbag son is not something I look forward to if the show comes back.

I wasn’t that shocked when Eric turned on Harper it def seemed like it was coming since he called her saying the plan was a go.

I like the show but don’t at the same time. I need better storylines.

Why do they all dread NYC so much?

Yep there is definitely a sexual vibe there between them.  I gleaned that too.

Eric got Harper fired because he wants her to address her issues and she never will working there 
Overall I liked this season, I want another one.

but to everyone’s point…it’s Succession levels of bleakness.  But they say art follows culture which is also bleak now.  Escapism tv might be dead except for Hallmark 

also wondering why they all dread NY

Edited September 21, 2022 by dmc

[aghst]

I think it's mostly Harper, she's from there.

As we saw with her brother, there's some family dysfunction.

If there's another season, they might go more into her past, including her life back in America before she came to London.

Eric would have to move his family there so he's reluctant.

[qtpye]

On 9/20/2022 at 11:34 AM, Sheenieb said:

Yeah, Rob's self-esteem is in the toilet in general, but it's in the septic tank when Yas comes around. It was absolutely baffling to me that she was more concerned about scoring coke than I don't know, calling a locksmith to get into the house so she can get her things.

She did not even care that Rob had not returned and might be in trouble. Not to mention she made a guy who was battling addiction issues score her some coke.

[seawind]

On 8/7/2022 at 8:08 PM, qtpye said:

It's ridiculous to think that her coworkers would not be kissing her ass just to have a chance at managing her family's portfolio.

The scam artists that ran Theranos had banks throwing money at them (both personally and privately) at very low-interest rates because it is that lucrative to manage the money of potential billionaires.

I really do not know why she seems so timid. Heck, the guy whose family manages HER family's money just blew up a fund and doesn't care because he's financially fine, no matter how bad he fails.

It would be interesting to find out that her family is not as flush as we think and now she really has to work to maintain her lifestyle but that seems unlikely. 

I mean, the new girl is demanding respect while Yasmin just let everybody walk all over her during her first year.

I'm a bit late to the party but catching up with eps fast... I'm glad someone else is confused by Yasmin's timidness for most of season one...unless she really was just that insulated as a rich girl growing up and never experienced misogyny or being surrounded by (crude) white men running the show? I guess it's possible. 

Re: the new girl, it's very convenient for her that she gets post-pandemic Wyndham and 12-step Kenny to deal with. I highly doubt she'd be demanding (or getting) the same level of respect if she'd started the same year as Yasmin.

[seawind]

On 8/16/2022 at 1:19 AM, aghst said:

Harper is maybe 25 but Bloom, who made his fortune with savvy trades on his own is going to listen to someone with such limited experience?

I wish I had a deep real-world understanding of the finance-speak on this show, so I could get more of a sense of whether 1) Harper is as smart about the business as she (or Eric, or Jesse) thinks she is; 2) if she IS that smart, WHY she is that smart (esp. given her apparent lack of higher education). At the least, she needs lessons in improving her fake smiles, because I'd think clients/potential clients could spot them a mile away...

[seawind]

On 8/16/2022 at 6:20 PM, overtherainbow said:

Anyone else think the girl playing Harper looks really, erm, young? I think she's meant to be at least 24, but she legit looks like a 14 year old to me. 

(raises hand)

Which makes it even harder for me to totally buy how she not only seems to know how to play the game so well while only having been in the trenches for such a short time, but also how everyone with much more experience gets so taken in by her.

[seawind]

On 8/23/2022 at 8:06 PM, ChickenFingers25 said:

Is it just me, or are a lot of the interactions/dialogue strange and stilted this season compared to last year? It feels like it's trying especially hard to be Succession-lite.

I guffawed when Eric referred to Rishi as Kendall Roy. Spot on.

[seawind]

On 8/31/2022 at 3:24 PM, qtpye said:

The brother was strange to me. He seems to hate Harper but she was also a child that was victimized by their horrible mother. Also, Harper really seems to need/want him in her life but he does not want anything to do with her.

While I thought their final scene was well done, the brother seemed to be — whether justified or not — behaving like someone who had been convinced (brainwashed?) by others that his family was 100% toxic, and that he should have nothing to do with them ("I need to get back to my life," the phone call, etc.). And I was surprised that I really didn't care all that much. I'm not sure that any of it gave me any sort of additional insight into Harper or made any connections with the rest of the story.

[aghst]

If you watch through to the end of the season, brother's POV makes sense.

[seawind]

On 9/12/2022 at 12:00 PM, aghst said:

I don't buy that they're able to do it every night and then show up for work bright and early.

Me either. It's more likely that they'd just deliberately run themselves into a plate glass wall over and over again until they bleed.

Is it really so common these days for that many young hires to not only do that much drugs but also just snort whatever any stranger offers them without worrying one iota about whether it might, oh, I don't know, seriously harm or even kill them? 

[seawind]

On 9/14/2022 at 10:02 AM, Pop Tart said:

And then there's his upset at what happened to Venetia and finding out that his boss wants to sweep it under the carpet. His being upset at the situation itself makes sense, but his big shock/dismay that Adler brushes it aside as a mosquito? That seemed off to me.

I'm still trying to figure DVD out too, but this I appreciated, because it was my first indicator of who he is other than a corporate mouthpiece. I don't think it was just the sweeping it under the carpet that was upsetting, though — Adler was DISGUSTING in his assertion that the issue of something as horrific and sensitive as possible systemic sexual harrassment in his company was beneath him and not worth his time and how dare you, and the fact that DVD retreated to the bathroom with the urge to vomit was something I could absolutely sympathize with.

I do wonder if I was always extremely naive to think that any company out there might genuinely care about its employees, though. Having done the corporate thing for many years, I've never had a DVD/Adler-type moment but there's been plenty that have come pretty close.

[Sheenieb]

17 hours ago, seawind said:

Is it really so common these days for that many young hires to not only do that much drugs but also just snort whatever any stranger offers them without worrying one iota about whether it might, oh, I don't know, seriously harm or even kill them? 

While I've been wondering how they're all still alive after doing the amount of drugs they do weekly? daily? since season one, I just chalk it up to their extreme high tolerance. They're all functional drug addicts. 

Given her absentee parents, Yas has probably been doing hard drugs since middle school. Harper probably started early as well considering the cold household she grew up in and the insane amount of pressure her mother had for her and her brother. 

[seawind]

23 hours ago, aghst said:

If you watch through to the end of the season, brother's POV makes sense.

Oh I did, but it still didn't quite gel for me. But then honestly I wasn't really all that invested in his and Harper's story to begin with.

[seawind]

5 hours ago, Sheenieb said:

While I've been wondering how they're all still alive after doing the amount of drugs they do weekly? daily? since season one, I just chalk it up to their extreme high tolerance. They're all functional drug addicts. 

And is it really possible to snort everything in sight during college (except you, Harper) and still maintain the grades needed to land these high-profile, high-paying jobs? 

[Brian Cronin]

The show got renewed by the way, in case anyone missed it! Phew! 

https://tvline.com/2022/10/25/industry-renewed-season-3-hbo/

[qtpye]

1 hour ago, Brian Cronin said:

The show got renewed by the way, in case anyone missed it! Phew! 

https://tvline.com/2022/10/25/industry-renewed-season-3-hbo/

This is good news for me.

Edited January 16, 2023 by qtpye

[Marley]

I am happy it’s coming back but wasn’t super impressed with the 2nd season. Hopefully the 3rd is better.

[topanga]

On 1/21/2023 at 5:37 PM, Marley said:

I am happy it’s coming back but wasn’t super impressed with the 2nd season. Hopefully the 3rd is better.

I just finished the second season. I enjoyed it, but it was bleak. I find Harper fascinating-- and a bit scary. Her brother is right that she's selfish, but he also can't make her responsible for how their mother raised both of them. Win at all costs -- it's how they were both taught. 

Eric told Harper "this is a young person's decision," but then he made an experienced person's decision. If Harper could so easily throw DVD and Rishi under the bus, it wouldn't be long before she'd do the same to him. 

When he said "I have to let you go" before firing her, I think he was also saying that to himself. He had to let her go as his protegee. He had to stop being "Dad."

On 9/19/2022 at 11:38 PM, aghst said:

Yasmin, lived rent-free in her father's in a multimillion dollar home in central London, used his bank accounts.  But she didn't think she could alienate her POS father.  She really had to try both doors and call him to find out?

Why did she think she could tell him to stay out of her life then return to the apartment he was paying for? I don't know if she was naive or just dumb, but she certainly wasn't thinking ahead. She had no contingency plan. 

Her story bored me overall. She seemed to flounder all season. It's like the writers didn't really know what to do with her character. 

 

 

[blackwing]

I just binged and finished Season 1.  I like this show overall.  The characters are interesting and layered and complicated.  However, so many of them are very unlikeable.

I liked Harper and Robert the most.  Harper appears to supposed be the viewer's main POV character.  She is young and bright and new to London and the environment.  Robert is a mess, but he's fun to watch.

Characters I don't really like are Gus (spent the whole season acting like his shit don't stank and annoyed that his boyfriend is in the closet), Kenny (classic office asshole), Yasmine (so dramatic and weary about everything, just dump the boyfriend and stop playing games), Daria (says in the season finale that she supported Harper, but all throughout the season she seemed like she was undermining her).

The character I most dislike is Eric.  He's a classic narcissist.  Always yelling at everyone and using fear and intimidation to show everyone how important he is.  Reminds me a lot of my own boss.

There's a whole handful of minor characters that don't make much impression on me.  Seb, seems like a loser.  Theo is a stereotype.  Greg, the guy that gets drunk too much.  Clement, older guy who had everything riding on one client.  Rishi, the foreign exchange guy, not sure what the point of him is.

Then there's a number of people who I couldn't ever really identify .  Usman (?) - is he the assistant to Clement's client?  He's the one that did drugs with Robert and they went to some gay(?) bar together?  The friend (?) of Yasmin's that might be a potential client?  I didn't understand why she kept talking to him in Spanish and then possibly French.  Aren't they both Middle Eastern?   Then I think in the last two episodes or so all of a sudden there was this French guy that was also a first year grad?

Interested to see how things play out in Season 2.  I hate that Eric got his way back into the company.  He's a bully, and I hate that the firm supports/enables his behaviour.

[AntFTW]

On 9/16/2022 at 1:55 PM, Sheenieb said:

Didn't a client blow coke up Rob's ass last season?

On 9/16/2022 at 7:30 PM, AntFTW said:

LMAO! Wow! Now, I really know I don't remember shit from season 1.

...and I loved season 1 but I remember almost nothing.

Wow! A client actually blew coke up Rob's ass...

I'm rewatching season 1 and I'm realizing how useless a lot of it is.

 

[qtpye]

10 hours ago, AntFTW said:

Wow! A client actually blew coke up Rob's ass...

I'm rewatching season 1 and I'm realizing how useless a lot of it is.

 

Yeah, the first season they were going for a sex/shock factor that really does not feel relevant or fit the theme of the show.

[blackwing]

Just finished the fourth episode of Season 2.  I am still finding so many of the characters unlikeable.  Season 1 seemed to be an ensemble show, but so far in Season 2, it seems firmly established that the two lead characters are Harper and Yasmine.  I still like Harper, but not sure what to make of her.  Is her tough attitude and confidence supposed to be refreshing?  

I absolutely cannot stand Yasmine.  I had a little bit of sympathy for her in Season 1 because of the way Kenny treated her.  But this season she seems to have gone all-in on her stuck-up rich princess persona.  The way she treats the new girl, just because that's how she was treated when she was new.  Her relationships with Harper and Robert. Finding out that her family money might be all gone.

Above all, I don't understand how she can float between her actual job (not really sure if she is in foreign exchange or cross products this season) and the private wealth department with Celeste.  Why is the firm allowing this?  If I were her manager I would sure be telling her that either she is working on the floor, or she transfers departments.  She seems to just do whatever she wants, whenever she wants.  Is it allowed because her family is wealthy and the firm is hoping to get that business?

Still not liking Eric.  I hate the way he talks to people.  I did feel a bit sorry for him the way that Bill Adler ambushed him in New York by already having Danny on the speaker on silent, and then Eric unknowingly proceeded to demand that Danny be fired.  But Eric is such a jerk, I thought it was karma.  Seems to me that he got a promotion.  Big private corner office, less work, more time with family.  Not sure about comp, but I'm sure he's still being paid well.

Not sure what is going on with Robert this season, but there seems to be much less focus on him than in Season 1.  Not even sure why Gus is still on the show if he doesn't even work at Pierpoint anymore.  There are a number of characters that just disappeared (Greg the drunk, Theo, new French guy) and the show didn't even bother to explain where they went.

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Season 3 premiers August 11.  Trailer features Kit Harington (Jon Snow).

 

 

 

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Wait, is that Jon Snow?

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I absolutely cannot stand Yasmine.  I had a little bit of sympathy for her in Season 1 because of the way Kenny treated her.  But this season she seems to have gone all-in on her stuck-up rich princess persona.  The way she treats the new girl, just because that's how she was treated when she was new.  Her relationships with Harper and Robert. Finding out that her family money might be all gone.

Yasmine is a valuable asset because of access to her family's vast fortune.  She really does not have the savvy or toughness for the business. Her ex-boyfriend was totally using her and she seemed oblivious.

However, there is a chance she could come into her own in the third season.

On 5/31/2023 at 1:58 PM, blackwing said:

I still like Harper, but not sure what to make of her.  Is her tough attitude and confidence supposed to be refreshing? 

Harper has been painted as an absolute cutthroat whose true motives are well hidden by her charming and youthful demeanor.

Her brother wanted nothing to do with her because he claimed she was exactly like their psycho mother.  However, Harper is young and of course, she would also be a victim of such a supposedly terrible parent.

 

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I don't know that any of these people are suppose to be redeemable.

Obviously the firm is all about corrupting these bring, young, ambitious people.

Their motivations aren't too novel.  Still remember that first season scene, Harper splurges on a fancy hotel room and orders some expensive burger for room service.

The reminded me of a recent season of Below Deck where one of the stewardesses had been a pampered princess growing up and towards the end of the season she says "screw you guys I'm better than you" and decides to go book herself a fancy hotel room with all the tip money she's earned, because she's better than them, even though she's been cleaning toilets all season.

In Industry, they're not doing menial labor but they will degrade themselves for the rewards.  Eric has been in finance for decades, has a certain amount of clout and provides a very comfortable life for his family.  But he couldn't walk away, he has to keep hustling and compromising any principles he may have.

Can the younger characters look at Eric and decide that is the future they want?  Or they delude themselves into thinking they will do much better than Eric?

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19 minutes ago, aghst said:

I don't know that any of these people are suppose to be redeemable.

Except Kenny.

Kenny had a program 😂