S04.E17: All Is Fair in Love and War Reenactment

[Harvey]

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Katie reminds Anna-Kat that she is a strong, independent, young woman and encourages her to start standing up for herself when dealing with Taylor. Meanwhile, Oliver feels left out when Greg invites Lonnie, Trip and Franklin to join him at the Historical Guild's latest reenactment of "The Battle of Westport".

 

[readster]

Very happy that Greg and Cooper called Oliver on him always putting down what Greg enjoys. I mean Katie is usually: "Have fun and enjoy." Oliver has been always finding a way to just say: "Dad, your stuff just sucks and it's stupid." Still, the social media guy needs to go when the season is over. 

[Bobbin]

So much for Oliver's maturing. But good for Pierce calling him out. The Trip-Franklin subplot was well done and sweet. I wish we would see more of the other side of the other characters, the moments few people are ever privileged to see in real life. Katie's ultimate tactic to rein in Anna-Kat wasn't shaming, just flat out humiliating. But whatever works.

[Eataton]

4 hours ago, readster said:

the social media guy needs to go

He was a little less irritating this week, but that's sure to change next time we see him. I hope that's not because they're trying to make him into a likable jerk that becomes a permanent part of the family. He is a one gag character that one episode could have covered.

[Harvey]

Katie's dancing was so cute at the start of the episode. 🧡

My favorite moment was when Katie  didn't mind being called into the principal's office in lunch hours, but the principal did 😄 Sharp writing!

Also, I cracked up when I saw just how many secret camera men Lonnie had around camouflaged as bushes! Talk about commitment!

At the end of the day the episode's message was nice, I liked the distinction Katie made between standing up for yourself when you have been wronged and simply doing whatever you want.

[Yeah No]

Anna Kat said something about never learning to ride a bike, but didn't we see her in a previous episode this season riding one?

[readster]

3 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

Anna Kat said something about never learning to ride a bike, but didn't we see her in a previous episode this season riding one?

Yeah and even when Katie gets called on that, I think even the actors were WTF? Didn't we go over that a while ago. That's a glaring hole, with the writers going: "Well, they won't remember this." or of course: "We don't remember that episode, so it will be a great punchline." I did like that Trip got messed up with being bombarded with questions left and right. Though his reaction to not knowing his favorite color was. That felt true, because some people really don't have a favorite color. 

[Cowgirl]

I thought maybe that Franklin was asking so many questions to prompt Tripp to ask something about him.  The real reason was nicer though, and less sad. 

[iMonrey]

The most disturbing thing is the idea that Franklin's mother tried to find him a "brother" but was stopped by mall security.  Yikes. 

I didn't mind Oliver standing up and defending Greg but turning to him and saying "I love you Dad" felt a little too precious to me. That's just not how Oliver rolls. I'm fine seeing some growth in him this season but let's not go overboard. He shouldn't suddenly become saccharine and maudlin any more than Taylor should suddenly be smart.

I hate when Angela and Doris are reduced to a few lines each in one scene at the bistro. I'm sure they are happy to collect their paychecks but it must be frustrating showing up every week for the table read and sitting there through the whole thing waiting to say your two lines.

[chitowngirl]

3 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I hate when Angela and Doris are reduced to a few lines each in one scene at the bistro. I'm sure they are happy to collect their paychecks but it must be frustrating showing up every week for the table read and sitting there through the whole thing waiting to say your two lines.

It’s possible they film a bunch of bistro episodes at one time. 

[SnarkySheep]

The whole storyline with Oliver and Greg felt real to me - it's not uncommon for teens to not want to hang out with their parents, but of course feel resentment when other teens do instead. 

[readster]

43 minutes ago, SnarkySheep said:

The whole storyline with Oliver and Greg felt real to me - it's not uncommon for teens to not want to hang out with their parents, but of course feel resentment when other teens do instead. 

Yep and then later on feel bad when others go: "Why do you treat your parent like this, I wish mine would do this."

[lark37]

Big plot hole-- why did Anna Kat have school when the other kids didnt? Did I miss an explanation like Tripp, Oliver, Franklin and Oliver's friend (sorry blanking on his name) were excused from school for the reenactment? I couldn't for the life of me figure out a timeline for this episode! 

[Yeah No]

On 4/21/2020 at 8:13 PM, readster said:

On 4/21/2020 at 7:29 PM, SnarkySheep said:

The whole storyline with Oliver and Greg felt real to me - it's not uncommon for teens to not want to hang out with their parents, but of course feel resentment when other teens do instead. 

Yep and then later on feel bad when others go: "Why do you treat your parent like this, I wish mine would do this."

Wow, that wasn't me at all.  I always thought it meant my parents were cool.  No one wanted to hang out with anyone else's parents but mine!  I think back in my day hanging with someone's parents was very unusual so if anyone did it, that was pretty significant.