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Episode Discussion II: The TFGH


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Culture Check: How can we discuss a character's or actor's appearance without objectifying them? How can we express likes or dislikes and still respect an individual's humanity or be mindful that a character represents a person someone else might relate to or identify with?

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3 hours ago, sacrebleu said:

And why isn't anyone suggesting joint custody? The Corinthii always insist on sole custody. 

because they failed kindergarten and missed on the "Sharing is Caring." portion of the day. 

I saw Ava screaming at Sonny about using pictures of a burnt out apartment, and then using cute pictures of Avery vs. Michael right now, and Imma gonna say. woman's got a big  ole point there. Avery easily could have been in that house that night asleep and could have ended up like Michael or worse.  It just reminds me when Ava was being stalked by Spencer/Esme - and the moment it got worse, Ava's first thought was to give up custody of Avery and give her to Carly for protection. and she was going to leave town.  to keep Avery safe. 

Sonny's like "nah we're good."

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Kristina and Luckt were a little vibes too but I’ll never not ship JJ’s Lucky with Elizabeth. They are just too sparkly and they make teen joyous. 
 

Yes, I don’t know why the Corintii act like joint custody isn’t a thing. Except I guess for Donna maybe?  
 

Weird to me that apparently Cody and Molly have never met. 
 

Enjoy LA Sonny. Take your time. See the sights. 

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11 hours ago, boes said:

Carly invading Germany

Hee. Luckily, the Germans are made of stern stuff. I'd give anything to see a few scenes where the doctors immediately shut her down and tell her to go away and let them work.

13 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Ava's first thought was to give up custody of Avery and give her to Carly for protection. and she was going to leave town.  to keep Avery safe. 

I'm not sure I'll explain this properly, but here goes: This is why Ava has trouble getting custody of Avery back. She legit tries to keep Avery safe, and that isn't a problem. It's how she tries to keep Avery safe. Giving her to Carly is tantamount to giving up custody completely. I don't care that Donna and Avery are BFFs and Carly's house is a familiar place. Once Carly gets her hooks into a kid, she doesn't let go. Ava should know this by now. Letting Avery live with Sonny semipermanently is just as bad, if not worse, given he's always a target for someone.

A big part of the problem is baked in: Ava has few to no friends and no family that she can park Avery with, so her options are limited.

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5 minutes ago, bybrandy said:

I don’t know why the Corintii act like joint custody isn’t a thing. Except I guess for Donna maybe?  

This goes to show how bad the writing has skewed towards the Corinthii and their annoying impenetrable family/cult.  Years ago, Carly forced Sonny to sign away his rights to Morgan to keep him safe after Michael got shot in the head.  Now?  A couple of words about how the person was after Sonny and then a shrug and a 'well, let's make sure Michael doesn't have scars' attitude.  

Meanwhile Ava has to beg for a lunch date with her kid because SHE'S a danger.  As always, fuck off, show.

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Cujo can just get BENT. It was HER idea to wake up the SLS to get him to tell all if he wanted to go to Germany or Baltimore, and then howls like a banshee when Willow wants to talk him. But this is typical Cujo behavior. Tone-Deaf and wants what she wants when she wants it and ignores any responsibility that she has in causing anything.

And this is coming from someone who doesn't give a shit about the SLS.

Sasha can also join Cujo. And then bear the brunt of the banshee's wrath when she finds out she's cooking the SLS's spawn and was going to keep it a sekrit.

I just want to bang my head and pull my hair out at the repeated and constant references to characters by their work positions or full names, as if they are strangers. Portia started it, Mac is now continuing it with ADA Lansing-Davis, as if Mac doesn't or hasn't known Molly her whole damn life. Or that Mini-Cujo refers to Anna as "Anna Devane" to Lucas.

So I guess Frank has decided he's ruined Anna so it's on to Laura now.

But oh my, Lucky and Elizabeth are just soooo cuuuuute together! And my inner tween/teen heart just went pitty-pat at how hawt Lucky looked with that shiner.

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16 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I'm not sure I'll explain this properly, but here goes: This is why Ava has trouble getting custody of Avery back. She legit tries to keep Avery safe, and that isn't a problem. It's how she tries to keep Avery safe. Giving her to Carly is tantamount to giving up custody completely. I don't care that Donna and Avery are BFFs and Carly's house is a familiar place. Once Carly gets her hooks into a kid, she doesn't let go. Ava should know this by now. Letting Avery live with Sonny semipermanently is just as bad, if not worse, given he's always a target for someone.

A big part of the problem is baked in: Ava has few to no friends and no family that she can park Avery with, so her options are limited.

oh no i got it. I remember screaming at Ava when she showed up at Carly's I'm like YOU ARE NEVER GETTING AVERY BACK!!  (case in point a few years later....) . and Lucas wasn't around so. yeh. 

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Culture Check: How can we discuss a character's or actor's appearance without objectifying them? How can we express likes or dislikes and still respect an individual's humanity or be mindful that a character represents a person someone else might relate to or identify with?

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