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I have no idea who Kevin and Gurleen are, but if I have to listen to "baby" and "I love you" every other sentence I may be out. Same with Dorothy complaining about her legs. Sheesh. The comment about taking only the best of the best was hilarious. And obviously not true.
I prefer run of the mill teams as opposed to athletes, and certainly couples like Kevin and Gurleen who apparently are addicted to being reality show contestants. Not sure if I will last the season. Or even outlast Dorothy at this point. Time will tell.
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6 hours ago, Irlandesa said:
They thought that maybe he had an accomplice. It took them a month to get access to his phone to discover he didn't talk about killing her with anyone.
That still makes no sense to me. The "best friend" identified him as the person who was in the house and then following her. Once they knew his alibi checked out and that he could not have been the person she saw, I don't understand how they could detain him. Even if they still thought he could have had an accomplice. They had zilch other than the claims of someone who had already been caught in at least two lies.
And I agree with others, the "friend's" story was very sketchy from the beginning. It should have been easy to disprove her long time BF claim right away, a huge red flag all on its own.
Slow witted detectives indeed.
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8 hours ago, badgerwoman said:
I've seen photos like that taken for evidence so I didn't think mugshot. I did wonder why they just accepted her story on face value though. Shouldn't the first person on the scene deserve a closer look immediately?
That was mind boggling to me, and that they kept the boyfriend in custody for a full month before they released him. Even though he had a pretty detailed alibi. Did it take that long to confirm it?
Did they ask him about his girlfriend's "best friend"? I would imagine the boyfriend knew nothing about her, did the police assume he was lying when he would have told them that she was not his girlfriend's best friend? And in fact had likely never heard of her before, as was the case with the dead woman's mother.
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5 hours ago, GiandujaPie said:
Re: A Deadly Scream
Not sure what to make of this one. The entire case seemed shady from the get-go. I don't think the brother had anything to do with it but seems weird that he saw this pretty much happen. The investigation seemed botched, prosecution did not prove anything other than that the defendant was an idiot. Their "star witness" was anything but credible and I couldn't believe it when they showed a clip of the judge saying that he was!
Most of the interviews seemed to be from 2017. So the only thing that has changed is that the star witness basically recanted and said he lied and that the convicted guy has a psychiatrist who is convinced he didn't do it.
This one was a head scratcher for sure. I also shook my head when the judge said how credible the witness was. Sheesh. Like you, I didn't think he was credible at all, and am not surprised that he said he was coached.
What made no sense to me was that none of the defendants were the body type or height that the brother said the abductor was. Though the creepy older guy certainly was. In addition, why would only one guy abduct her if three others were involved?
The whole case was a mess, and very hard to follow. The poor girl deserved justice, but I am not convinced she got it.
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So awesome to see Jamie and Corrine back!! What a frustrating episode though. If the one contestant (can't remember her name) had not hesitated and then laughed before answering, she would not have run out of time. It cost them a million dollars since they knew the answer to all of the songs. Ugh.
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On 5/18/2024 at 8:23 AM, AManfred said:
I will pass-- Dateline or 20/20 just did this case either last week or the previous week!
I did watch it, as with 48 Hours only being an hour long I don't find is as much of a slog as Dateline and 20/20 can sometimes be. I find it interesting to see the differences presented when it is covered by two shows.
What I found interesting in this episode was the interview with three of the jurors. I don't remember, but did the Dateline version make it clear that hubby said that he found his wife on the stairs as opposed to the bottom of the stairs? For some reason I thought she was at the bottom of the stairs on the floor when he found her.
In any case she wasn't, she was on the stairs. The defense of course had put forth the theory that Susann was strangled by the dogs pulling at the scarf around her neck. One of the jurors said that he thought that was ridiculous because he has dogs the the same size, and there is no way with their nails that they would be able to get traction on slippery wooden stairs to pull on a scarf. Another juror said that there were no punctures in the scarf which would be there if a dog(s) was pulling on it. I was quite impressed by the jurors, as it doesn't seem those things were pointed out by the prosecution, but rather deduced by the jurors.
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On 5/13/2024 at 7:36 AM, GiandujaPie said:
And I agree, after he confessed to the "infidelity", why would his wife continue to back him?
He claimed to have slept with a lot of women (or in this case a teenager) in the interrogation and again when in prison to the correspondent. I wonder if he did as well in court in front of his family? I love his justification that he was "in transition". But still living with the woman who would become his wife. Definitely a headscratcher why she is so blindly backing him.
I always wonder when these monsters go on to have families of their own, particularly girls, if they hope that their daughter(s) do not have the unfortunate horror of running into someone like him. I found the footage of him dancing with his daughter, who would have been pretty much the same age as the girl he raped and murdered along with her friend, chilling.
I can't remember if they said if his kids are standing by him too?
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1 minute ago, Ohmo said:
I must be dumb because y'all figured Andre was involved early on. I was hoping he was gonna be a good guy, but alas no.
The other dead giveaway (no pun intended) was that Andre himself was not interviewed. Pretty much a Dateline clue that no spouse interview=guilty spouse.
The kid being left with his mother was pretty much it for me. The police said when they found him he was crying hysterically beside his mother. Did Andre not hear his son crying? Did he not wonder if his daughter was OK? Nope, because he knew the kids were OK (or as OK as one could be, wandering around trying to wake up his dead mother and get someone to help him. At two years of age).
I missed the part where they said Andre's mother was raising the kids. I certainly hope she does not let them have a relationship with him.
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5 hours ago, ButterQueen said:
Maybe it was just me, but the poor murdered wife got totally lost in the battle of the DJ’s.
I’ll take Andrea, and her jewelry, over this mess any day..
That's two hours of my life that I will never get back. Ugh.
It was obvious from the first few minutes that the guy killed his wife. He arrived at his house and casually got out of the car, no hurry at all to check on his wife and children. Then he left his son in bed with his wife, the police had to remove the poor kid from his dead mother's bed? WTF??
The whole red herring of the club scene, strip clubs, rap, DJs etc. dragged on way too long. It was not the least bit interesting.
I wasn't a fan of the correspondent. I found her very chirpy. And when she said to the cop early on that the shooter had to be cold blooded (to paraphrase) to shoot someone in the eye, I wondered "How do you know that person didn't die, or wasn't rendered unconscious from the gunshot to the chest?". The shot to the eye could have been for effect or to make sure Tiffany was dead, doesn't mean she knew it was coming (hopefully she didn't).
In any case, I also thought the presentation of the case was a mess. Not sure how much the correspondent was to blame, bad editing, whatever. Just way more drawn out than even the most annoyingly drawn out Dateline.
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Damn, I can't remember the last time a TV show made my cry. Even my hubby's eyes were glistening.
I almost didn't watch this series when it debuted years ago, because of the way Sheldon's dad was written in TBBT. When I decided to give it a try, I fell in love with George. He is tied with Paul (the late John Ritter) of 8 Simple Rules for Dating My Teenage Daughter, as my fav TV dad of all time.
I was hoping that George's death would be announced as a voice over at the end of the final episode. But like others, I knew when George walked out the door of the kitchen, that it would be the last time we would see him. It will be interesting to see how the final episode plays out. But I am glad that Lorre acknowledged that the audience did indeed fall in love with George, and his regrets for how George's character was written in TBBT.
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2 hours ago, MsJamieDornan said:
Very odd.
Also strange was that none of her relatives could take the kids ? They had to go live with a friend ?
I wondered if it was because the kids were 14, so may have had a say in where they went and did not want to leave their friends or father (even though they could not live with him). Also, they saw their maternal grandmother (and presumably uncles etc) in the two years after their mother died, but it doesn't sound like they saw them after their dad was arrested. So it may be that they believed in their father's innocence so did not want to live with relatives who did not.
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40 minutes ago, TVbitch said:
I'm shocked it took that long to arrest him after the coroner determined she was murdered. I mean, he was the only one there! His blood was under her nails! She had defensive wounds! Even his lawyer admits she was strangled (just maybe not to death and/or by the dog).
It would have even been a stronger case if they had tried it earlier, when the son might still have been willing to tell the truth. Letting the kids spend ages 12-19 with their dad was, I'm sure, very detrimental to them in the long run . Of course they are going to really bond with him after what they went through.
Also, the shirt he claimed had chocolate milk on it, but it was blood. Um, was he "repairing that screen" or "fixing that car" in the middle of the night? Did he just decide to keep wearing a bloody shirt for days or something? Did he just leave blood all over his daughters curtains, and not bother to clean it up? I'm quite sure the mother would have taken those down in two seconds after going in there if it had been done earlier. No way would a 12 year old girl be in that room with bloody curtains. Ridiculous!
It took a year for the toxicology reports to come back (why???) and then another year for Scott to be arrested. They did say that while he was out on bond awaiting trial, the kids were not allowed to live with him so stayed with that family friend. Though I would imagine they were allowed to see him.
He was arrested in 2018, two years after the murder. So why did it take five years from his arrest to actually go to trial? I know Covid happened in early 2020 so that may have caused a back log, but I agree that the delay could have played in his favour where the kids were concerned. Thank goodness the police still had the original interviews, including the daughter saying that there was no blood on the curtains before her mother ended up at the bottom of the stairs (to pharphrase).They never did say though why the 5 year delay in the trail starting.
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32 minutes ago, Irlandesa said:
I think anyone else was adopted. I think they mentioned her adoption as a reason why she took the kids in. As in a 'paying it forward' kind of thing by taking in orphans and making them part of the family.
Nope. It had all the earmarks of an unpremeditated crime and then someone trying to do his best to make it look like an accident or something other than what it was. But that's hard to do after-the-fact.
You are likely right as far as the family friend goes. I went back to that segment, it was at the 1.26 mark, and it was actually Susann's mother who said that the family friend herself had been adopted as a child. This was when the friend first took the kids in when the dad was arrested. Still odd how the grandma phrased it.
And of course the kids weren't actually orphans, either when their father was arrested or convicted. When the daughter asked the judge for leniency so that her father could possibly some day walk her down the isle, and referred to herself as an orphan, I thought "You aren't one, but the fact that you feel like one is 100 percent due to your father's actions". I am always amazed when kids, especially at the age they are now, take the side of the convicted parent in the face of overwhelming evidence.
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5 hours ago, iMonrey said:
I also wonder, if Scott actually murdered her then staged the fall and went back to sleep upstairs why he didn't clean up the crime scene with all the blood and hair! And there's that spaghetti pot, it does make it seem like she either went down the stairs with the pot (in case she got sick) or else went downstairs to fetch the pot to take back upstairs with her and fell on her way back up. If Scott put that there to stage the scene, again I go back to wondering why he didn't do a better job cleaning up. You'd have to think he was a criminal mastermind and a blithering idiot at the same time.
I wonder if the reason Scott didn't clean up the bedroom was because of the two kids in the master bedroom? The fight happened in the daughter's bedroom, and then at some point he took Susann downstairs and staged the scene. To also spend time cleaning up the bedroom would have taken awhile (and I don't think he could have done much with the curtains) would have kept him out of the master bedroom. After all, his story was that he was in the master and heard noises but didn't think anything of it. He couldn't be away for too long and have the kids either hear him staging the scene, or cleaning up and not be in the master bedroom where he was supposed to be.
I don't think he was a criminal mastermind at all. Quite the opposite.
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One thing I am curious about. When Keith was talking about how a friend of the family took the kids in after Scott was arrested, Keith made an aside comment that the woman was adopted as well. As well as who? It was never mentioned (at least that I heard) that Susann was adopted. Does that mean that the twins were not Susann's biologically? They made it sound like she had them through IVF, but then who was Keith referring to as being adopted?
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I have no doubt whatsoever that the doctor murdered his wife. Nothing whatsoever to me points to a fall down the stairs.
The good doctor tried to make it look like a fall, complete with putting Susann's purse and an empty pill bottle at the bottom of the stairs. But Susann had a therapeutic amount of pain killer in her system, not enough to cause her to fall. And why would she have her purse and an empty pill bottle with her? Also why would she be wearing clunky dress shoes in the middle of the night, to walk from an upstairs bedroom to downstairs? Personally I would be either barefoot, in socks or slippers. Certainly not barefoot but wearing clunky dress shoes, in the middle of the night. And certainly if I felt unsteady, I wouldn't be wearing a shoe with a heel. In the middle of the freaking night. I also think the pot at the bottom of the stairs was staged.
Why would Susann have Scott's blood under her fingernails, if she fell down the stairs? Or be wearing a scarf with Scott's blood on it? Not to mention all the blood and hair in the bedroom? Also Scott wearing the beanie the whole day until he was asked to remove it for pictures. He claimed that he got the gash on his upper forehead from working on a car with his son a few days earlier. But it was obvious that the wound was fresh, and filled with dried blood. Not believable that any person, let alone a doctor, would not clean and dress a wound when it happened, not leave it for days afterwards uncleaned and undressed, and cover it with a beanie.
I wish the prosecutors had asked the son, when he changed his story to not hearing his parents fight in the middle of the night, why he chose then to sleep with his sister in his parents' bedroom? (He told the police originally it was because of the noise of hearing his parents fight). Obviously he was lying, and did not care that he was under oath.
So many reasons why I think the dr is guilty. I would have had no qualms about convicting him, but would have chosen second degree as well.
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I have never understood why Georgie doesn't use correct grammar, since the rest of his family does. Has it ever been addressed? I wonder if the writers put the storyline of Georgie talking to C.C. using correct grammar because that is how they are going to write for him in the spin off?
I am so sad that "Missy" will not be in the spin off. She has been my fav character for quite awhile, with George and Georgie tied for second. I hope that at least the writers give us a Missy-centered episode before the end, but I am not counting on it.
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I guess I should have been focused on the kids in the tractor segment, but all I could think was "Why isn't Murphy there?" I am glad that Zach and Tori will no longer be on the show, because Murphy not being treated as a part of the family hurts my heart.
That said, this did feel like a series finale, and I think it was a lovely one. Odd how the four were doing so well in their scenes together. Makes one wonder how much of the last few years was manufactured drama. Or is this manufactured chumminess in hopes of another season focused on the two couples?
I think it is a great place to end the series, and wish everyone well. I am happy that Amy and Matt have found happiness with other people, and have come to like and appreciate Caryn (I've always liked Chris). I hope the two couples also do not dwell on what the kids may or may not do in the future with regards to family. I have seen too many friends bend over backwards to keep their kids happy to stay in their grandkids' lives. Take Caryn's advice - you can only be in control of what you do, no one else. I wish both couples many happy days and adventures ahead.
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2 hours ago, Medicine Crow said:
Were they able to hone in on anyone? I thought it was someone that hated one or both of them ... her because of how she acted in society & his bad relationship with his former business partner. Their deaths were beyond them just getting killed (I thought).
The series is basically the reporting of Toronto Star reporter Kevin Donovan. It could be shorter than 4 episodes, but also was quite interesting. Donovan took the Toronto Police Service to court several times to get access to information. One even ended up at the Supreme Court, and Donovan and the Star won that case.
Donovan ends with saying that he has his opinion on who the murderer is, and that his opinion is shared by the TPS. It is pretty clear, without him saying it, that he thinks the murderer is Honey and Barry's son Jonothon. I think he is right.
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3 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:
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I'm guessing that the Canadian episodes aren't really filmed with Dateline hosts, but the hosts do a separate shot with their questions, and then it's splice together. I've read that a lot of the filming is done with others doing the questions, and the hosts are in the separate shot to disguise that, and very little of the show is actually the host with the guests.
I don't know how much of that type of interviewing might apply to Dateline. In 2021 NBC did an interview with Keith and Josh about doing their jobs during a pandemic. Josh said that they could definitely get good interviews by interviewing the various participants remotely, but he preferred to interview one on one where he could read someone's body language, etc. better. Keith also said he can sit down to interview someone without having ever met them, but feel like he knows them due to the prep work the team does with the interviewees beforehand.
I also remember an interview with Andrea where she said that she started writing movie scripts as a way to fill time when she was travelling for her job, and had spare time while on a plane or in a hotel room.
I also think many of the interviewers actually develop a bond with some of people they are interviewing, as they often interview them over multiple years. I remember a case where Keith happened to see someone he knew from a previous case driving on the Pacific Coast Highway. She recognized him and if I recall correctly, they pulled over and got caught up with each other. I think it lead to another episode, where Keith described their chance encounter.
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4 hours ago, Medicine Crow said:
Me too! I was thinking about them & wondering why it hasn't been solved.
If you get Crave TV, they did a 4 part show on the case last year called Billionaire Murders. Very interesting.....
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3 hours ago, Medicine Crow said:
As a Canadian & former Torontonian, I remember that case very well, but I didn't know who did it. Great episode!!
I vaguely remember the cases, but was living in Vancouver at the time of the murders and they didn't get a lot of coverage there. What I find odd is that the case was solved in November of 2022, and I don't remember media about that either. I thought Dateline did a great job covering the murders, and thought for once it was a case that warranted a two hour episode.
Medicine Crow, I would love Dateline to cover the murders of Barry and Honey Sherman. That is such a fascinating case, but they may not since it is still unsolved.
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18 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:
Matt really came off looking like an ass (more so than usual). When he was accusing Amy of ordering his workers around, I wondered how in the world she would come onto his property, gather his workers, and give them orders on what to do, all with Matt not knowing. Not likely.
It totally made sense that she mentioned what needed to be done to Jacob, and he took it upon himself to do what he thought was needed.
I also don't understand why Matt just didn't ask his workers where they put stuff? Or Caryn ask where the stuff for the basket was moved to? Easier to complain on camera like they are helpless on their own property, and act like the workers are going rogue.
I loved Chris standing up for Amy in front on Matt. Seems like he maybe has finally seen Matt's MO, as in nothing is ever his fault. And if at all possible, it is Amy's fault.
I was shocked to see Tori actually giving affection to poor Murphy this episode. Even the kids ignore the poor dog which is just bizarre to me. #FreeMurphy indeed.
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Matt really came off looking like an ass (more so than usual). When he was accusing Amy of ordering his workers around, I wondered how in the world she would come onto his property, gather his workers, and give them orders on what to do, all with Matt not knowing. Not likely.
It totally made sense that she mentioned what needed to be done to Jacob, and he took it upon himself to do what he thought was needed.
I also don't understand why Matt just didn't ask his workers where they put stuff? Or Caryn ask where the stuff for the basket was moved to? Easier to complain on camera like they are helpless on their own property, and act like the workers are going rogue.
I loved Chris standing up for Amy in front on Matt. Seems like he maybe has finally seem Matt's MO, as in nothing is ever his fault. And if at all possible, it is Amy's fault.
I was shocked to see Tori actually giving affection to poor Murphy this episode. Even the kids ignore the poor dog which is just bizarre to me. #FreeMurphy indeed.
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The 1% Club - General Discussion
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We didn't discover this show until until the 4th episode, so watched that and epi 5 by ffing by the contestant interactions with Patton. We then watched 1 and 2 on Demand, a little harder to ff so listened to the interactions. I find how people missed really easy questions much more interesting than listening to the ones that got it right. I do not mind Patton though, and we do love to challenge ourselves so overall find this to be an enjoyable show.