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You are right. I did some more googling, and came across an article by The Cinemaholic. It describes the then upcoming Dateline episode, and even in the article describes Desiree and Scott as high school sweethearts. It then goes on to name Scott's children and their partners, just as were named in Jeffrey's obituary. It is shocking that this article didn't figure out that Jeffrey would actually be a year or so older than Desiree, so no way could his father and Desiree have been high school sweethearts as the Dateline episode claimed. I haven't seen anything stating Scott's age, but yes he has to be a couple of decades older than stated in the episode. And obviously the picture shown of Desiree in high school was not with Scott. (Though I must say for being in his likely early to mid 40s when they married, he looked very young and fresh faced). Good on you for figuring it out, and yikes on Dateline for making such a huge error. Makes you wonder what else they might be reporting in other episodes that is totally inaccurate. Thanks for posting about this again, Realitystarr. Dateline should hire you to do their research, as whoever is doing it is, or at least was for this episode, incompetent.

I was hoping someone would post regarding Friday's episode. So many red flags right away on that case that were ignored. Even though it was almost 20 years ago, surely law enforcement should have been advanced enough at that time to spot obvious flags. Right away when Matt said to the 911 operator that Kari's lips were blue and her hands were cold, I said out loud, "Not possible", if she was alive 40 minutes before when he left. The EMTs said that lividity had set in, again not possible with his timeline. And telling the 911 operator that she left a note, but telling the police that the police found the note and handed it to him. An unsigned, typed suicide note at that. Thank goodness for Kari's mother Linda, but I was also surprised that she wasn't suspicious (or suspicious enough) to go to police until she saw that Kari's cell phone was being used after her death. Just a few days before her death, Kari told her about Matt's note blaming Kari for Kassidy's death. It was the final straw and Linda said Kari told her she was going to leave Matt. In any case thank goodness the body was exhumed months after the death, and Matt was convicted just a few years later. What an evil person to be fine with letting his daughters grow up to think their mother left them by her own choice. It really is too bad that Vanessa could not be charged with anything. She knew Matt was going to kill his wife, and stayed silent. She really only got emotional on the stand when she relayed that Matt threatened her if she told anyone. How creepy that she was fine with going ring shopping with her lover's children, weeks after her lover killed their mother. OMFG.

So often Dateline leaves out pertinent information in cases they are covering. The show often goes out of its way to leave the viewer wondering how the accused was convicted, but a google search will usually find several pieces of evidence that Dateline did not disclose. It is extremely annoying. I had a hard time believing that Katie was guilty based on the Dateline episode, save for one thing. The fact that she bought the prepaid credit cards that were used to purchase the medication used to kill Mary. I haven't seen the Hulu documentary, but wonder if Mary discovered that Katie was stealing from the practice? Poor Mary, to think that three people close to her, her husband, son and office manager were all creepy enough (at least that label applies to son and husband) to be viable suspects in her murder. And I agree with others about the two annoying daughters. I am sorry their mother was murdered, but listening to them was like chalk on a black board.

I have found the last several episodes of 20/20 to be really well done as well, and have come to actually prefer 20/20 to Dateline. Like the first person posting about this episode, I wondered how Paul got custody of his children, and wondered if he had abused and threatened his wife into giving him custody. That and possibly snowing the courts. As one participant in the episode said, he thinks he is the smartest person in the room. I was horrified that he tried to pin the murder on his 16 year old son, even going so far as to try to convince the son the take the wrap. Telling him that jail isn't that bad, the food is good and he wouldn't have to worry about being raped? One of the most sickening things I have heard a murderer say and do, and it is a pretty high bar to start with. Too bad the death penalty was not (I assume) an option.

I think the article meant that Scott was 39 when his son passed away in 2019. Dateline showed pics of Scott and Desi as teenagers together (looked like maybe a prom pic) and said that Desi was 16, making Scott 17. They married in 2003 when Scott was 22, making his birth year 1980-81. What Dateline did leave out was that Scott had three children from a previous relationship, and all had to have been born before he married Desiree as the article I read said that they were all from a previous relationship, and that he never had another serious relationship after Desiree died and his relationship with Paige ended. Dateline made it sound like they had been together since they were teenagers and but never explained why they didn't marry until they were 22 and 21 years old. It seems Scott was with another women and had three children with her before he got back with Desiree and they married in 2003. Not sure why Dateline left that info out, but I find that Dateline often omits info that doesn't fit the narrative they are presenting. It seems Scott may not have had anything to do with his kids while he was with Desiree as there was no mention of her being a step mom to three kids. Very odd. The article I read didn't say how old Scott's son was when he died in 2019, only that is was a sudden death.

Every once in awhile a Dateline episode comes along that plays out like a Coen brothers movie script. This was one of those episodes. Other than sadly there was a real life victim, the "movie" was even perfectly cast. Yikes. At one point Paige described Marty as being like a fixer to her. What my ears heard was that he was like a sister, and in this weird cast of characters, that made perfect sense to me. That was so strange, and I am sure to all of us true crime addicts we assumed that the break in a week before was a set up to give more credibility to the husbands actions. I am still not convinced that the husband and Paige were not involved, though I suppose when Marty turned on Paige enough to want her dead, he would have spilled that he did it because she was pregnant with Scott's baby and he wanted Scott free and clear for Paige. So Paige has 4 kids now. The first of course was her ex's, though she stated that it was "supposed" to be Scott's. I wonder if the baby daddies of the other three kids are who she though they were supposed to be as well? She really is a piece of work.

I would imagine Olympia leaving and starting her own firm, with Matty coming along, is where the show is heading if there is a second season. I don't for a minute think that Olympia was involved in the cover up. With Matty saying that Olympia is the first true friend she has had in a long time, and Bitsy commenting to Matty that she thinks Matty has really missed working as a lawyer, It seems that the show is telegraphing just that.

I didn't know Tim had a book out, so thanks for that info. I picked it up at the library today and have started it. So far I am enjoying it very much.

I did find Ken to be controlling in the restaurant scene. I can't stand seafood so I sympathized with Gypsy, even more so with pregnant Gypsy. Other than that though I haven't seen any red flags from Ken. Time will tell I guess. I found it interesting that Gypsy told Ryan even before they married that she was not attracted to him. That makes all the pawing he continuously did when she was released from prison (and right up until she left him) even more cringey. Who knows if things will work out with Ken, but I am glad she left Ryan.

Not to mention, there are likely as many married men in strip clubs as single men. I find so much about Bob's life leading up to the stabbing, odd. He told many people that he was relocating to Miami because of the increase of drugs and crime in San Francisco. This was widely reported before his reckless lifestyle was uncovered. Considering his lifestyle, I can't imagine that he would have been any safer in Miami. So that reason does not ring true. I think his brother said in the show that he moved to live with his father, but his father lived in SF as well and they both moved to Miami. I also find it odd that he would leave his two teenage children in drug and crime ridden San Francisco, and move across the country where he obviously would not be seeing them as often as he would if he was still living in the same area. Not to blame the victim, but I think besides his reckless lifestyle contributing to his death, there was more to his life and possible move that his family did not want to divulge. Which is their right of course, but painting him as a saint as they did does not add up either.

My thoughts too. I did some googling as I wondered if there was any more info on the case. One thing I came across (not about the case itself) was that Bob's brother started a GoFundMe to raise money for the family as he said that Bob's assets were frozen. At the time of the article he had only raised around $8,000 of the $50,000 ask. Some wondered why the family couldn't just get a loan based on his worth, to hold them over. Odd. The other odd thing is that several sites reported Bob's net worth to be $10 million. One site said $16 million. That seems very low for someone who had a hand in inventing products that sold billions. Did he blow a bunch (no pun intended)? Ten million is not a lot of money, at all. I would not consider that to be in the "wealthy" category, and certainly not what the episode was alluding to with regards to his wealth.

Hmmm, is this the first time we have heard that Kody told Meri when they moved to Las Vegas that she had been mean to him for 20 years, and she would have to spend the next 20 years making it up to him for him to have a relationship with her? First I have heard of it, anyway. So another example of how the Browns have lied to viewers for years (that would have been in 2011) about the real state of their relationships. At this point, the show appears to have been for years (if not all of its years) a fictional show, not reality TV. I wanted to thank Kody though for asking Robin to finally drop the convos about his relationships with the first three wives. Yes Robin, he has said that he never loved them. Yes Robin, he has said he did love them. We get it, and we don't care. Kody flip flops. Nothing new. I did love though that Kody admitted that Janelle has treated him the way he treated Meri. I loved Christine saying that David gives Truely compliments all the time. Who knows if she has ever had one from her bio dad. I chuckled when Christine pointed out the place where David proposed, Hell's Revenge. I think it should be renamed Christine's Revenge. All the ex wives are looking much better than when they were with Kody, and Kody looks every bit, if not older, than his soon to be 56 years.

I am not a fan of Mel's (or maybe I just dislike the actress playing her, not sure which) but I have never been able to stand the character of Hope. I have never read the books, was she this much of a bitch in the novels? What I find completely ridiculous is that now we are introduced to her ex, who was apparently so controlling that Hope was meek and mild around him. Not likely. Women who are controlled and get up the courage to leave a man may become more assertive, but if they were a nice person before hand they will not lose that characteristic. Hope has been a bitch on wheels from day one, I don't for a minute believe the back story that she left and never told her hubby why, because she was never allowed a voice in the marriage. Is this how the storyline goes in the novels as well? Still three episodes to go for me, but as ever I am only watching for the scenery, and because of Tim Matheson.

A few episodes in as well, and way too much time is being spent on Mel, her father, and her father and mother's backstory. I can barely stomach Mel at the best of times, and have zero interest in her parents, either past, or present as in the case of her dad. Some things drag on forever, but other things conclude at lightning speed, like Preacher's trail. That has always been the case with the show, I don't know why I was hoping this season would be an improvement. However I will stick it out, and ff past many scenes/people that I have no interest in, as per usual.

Alexis claimed both that JJ said he would pay her salary if she didn't go on the show, and then when that didn't work said he would pay her double her salary if she didn't go on. I don't remember though where/when she made the "double the salary" claim, if it was on the show, in an interview, or where. Who can keep track of what the fame whores say and when? No pay day though, since it wasn't Alexis' choice this time. In fact I would think she is in danger of becoming the next ex of Johnny J.