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I wouldn't have worn sky high stilettos either. High heels at a pool party? COME ON! Full face of makeup? Both of those girls should have been out just for that. Jeulia (or whatever) should not be on this show if this is still so raw. Yep, you are the one anyone will pick. People, I am so bored. I DVR it and then fast forward so it takes me 45 minutes for the whole two hours. Anyone know if Celebrity Apprentice is beating this in the ratings?

Me too! A great book addresses this whole "Alfies marriage". I nearly jumped when they spoke of it. I am a history buff and therefor have read The Reluctant King, the Life and Reign of George VI. I read another great book From Splendor to Revolution which is the story coming from the Russian side. I wanted to jump through the tv and look at the items at the tea. The intermingling of the royal families, the politics, the love stories is too much to go into here but I love it all. A book that speaks to the incident in the show: Fatal Passion:, A: The Story of the Uncrowned Last Empress of Russia I some times have to brace myself for each episode. Dreary, morose, miserable - all words I use with this show and yet I can't look away. The whole Russian thing was a nice diversion. Don't forget the Mr. Pamuk storyline. Edith did contact his family. Not something I could forget, but then Mary got her back that summer. Ok, the dates on the threads is confusing me. First time it ran in UK?

I know right? I was so taken aback I heard myself scream, "No Geraldo, no". With the dark socks and old man shoes no less. Sheeesh this man has no idea he is the joke and Trump is just using him. You know this group is messed up when Kate Gosselin is low on the radar. Was I the only one thinking the snowboard girl was high or somewhat had "residual" damage?

I saw Vivaca on some show and she had her own spoiler about Kenya. She said that Kenya stole her phone while onset and sent out horrible tweets using her account. The Donald fired Kenya for that. That is some psychotic shit there. Viv also said that Geraldo saw the theft and that is what he was referring to on the Today Show about seeing something illegal.

I'm Italian. When the "Vault" show was coming up there was no other pr other than "Geraldo" "The Vault". It was a national movement. Shops closed, people stayed home that night.......It was freaking hilarious. My dad at the end, "There are thousands of Italians all over the country who are saying, 'Everyone knows the goods are buried under nona's tomatoes' ". Remember Geraldo's brother? I thought he was the better looking brother. Now he is an assistant or producer of Geraldo's Fox show.

I think it was more that Gilbert HAD to go for the dirty joke and it was made clear that he did not follow or even refused to write a script.

Thank you! It has been bugging me who she looks like. I have said, since Chris was on Andi's season, that I smelled money. Just the way he talks, he is a farmer ha. They have a huge operation. He is on the business end of things. Is he an only son?

Yes to all you said! I can't believe no one talked about Geraldo and his attitude when the Neat people came in. That was a baby throwing a tantrum and highly unprofessional even for said baby. You know they are just keeping him for ratings. I wonder if he knows he is a goat? I can't look away from all the makeup he wears either. I love how he brings up his embedded with military. He was pulled for giving away their locations. Let's not forget the vault, the chair, the selfie........ He is an ass and has no idea. Vivaca - that was a bitch thing to do. If it was me I might have reminded her that she can't remember her periods for she is so old and on the other side of menopause.

Go Kevin Jonas! I can't wait for the eventual showdown of him and Geraldo. Geraldo looked so doddering. I love how they kick up each persons persona. Media mogul, reality sensation....... I kept thinking about all those stories we heard about Kate and her "bodyguard". Hilarious. The unknown guy was from some fishing (we're all going to die) shows. Yep, just pass that pipe.

Thot = that ho over there.

I will reiterate what I have been saying all along. Kandi is stuck in adolescents. She does not realize it but she has never moved on, grown up in this vile relationship. I do not see her and Todd going the distance. I keep trying to articulate what I don't like about Kenya. She over acts! Everything is loud and fake. Every action, every word - fake.

No truer words were ever spoken on this show: "All these girls are damaged". Paraphrase, can't remember the exact sentence but it is the gist.

Zoey and the doctor - I am older, much, much older and I absolutely hate the doctor. I won't go. I won't go! They have to literally (I mean literally) dope me up in the parking lot for me to walk through the door. I will fight anyone coming at me with a shot. Turns out I spent my first two year of life in a hospital. Who knew? I will punch anyone approaching me with an invasive tool. Zoey? Kids stuff, please. Everyone should know how to swim. Period. We don't know if Zoey's reaction is because of the cameras. Some people are just not cut out for adoption. I personally have worked with the children of two families who wanted to "rehome" their adoptees because they weren't perfect children. They had baggage. They did not appreciate what was being done for them. Bad children! I think Jen and Bill are educated in the ways of adoption and are shown using techniques most applicable with adoptees.

You never watched the extras on the videos on the website? Go watch them. Um yes the die hard Christians are still anti gay. Did you see the ponderosa video of Jeremy and Josh talking? Watch it. When the pope came out that he did not want to judge gays or they still should be welcomed in the church he also said he did not support gay marriage. Still his speech was derided all over the country.

What is third place winnings? I would like to revisit Missy in one year and we probably would see that she hooked up with a man and bought him a truck and bought a house in his name and made Baylor move out...............

I get what they were saying. Being gay and being Christian or Muslim is casting yourself out from your family especially if you come from an evangelical home. When Josh talked about coming out and his experience compared to Jeremy's brother was sad. The Duggars are running around trying to outlaw gays from raising children and getting married. Like it or not they are role models for the gay community. If just one parent connected to their gay child then their work was useful. Reed's speech was an analogy. Missy herself said she cast herself in the mother role. Reed just pointed out that she cast herself in the fairy tale stepmother role. A mother would nurture all not just this one or that one. Missy did just that and selected a few to nurture and was hateful towards the rest. She needs to own that. Her game play was terrible and she still doesn't realize she was the goat of the season. I would like to point out that when the men were being sexist pigs only Reed and Jeremy stood up for the ladies.

That was the best final episode ever! Natalie is fearless and her risky moves paid off. I too thought of the snake eats the rat. Did you all hear me standing in my living room clapping? He was spot on! Missy made me sick the whole season. AT the final voting she got 1 vote? Am I correct in that? Only Baylor voted for her? She did not realize she was the goat going to the end? Getting out Baylor was absolute genius. Reed's analogy with the fairy tales was awesome. Of course Missy and Baylor did not understand the analogy or even what an analogy is. Missy did treat everyone at camp like crap. She had no idea that these people would be voting for the winner. [hand smacks head] I loved when she said that she was a step mother.......So how come you don't include them as your kids Missy? How come you didn't even once mention them? To me she is still a loser because she has no accountability for anything she has done in her life including, perhaps, screwing up Baylor. Baylor, I beg of you, do not follow in your mother's footsteps. Someone needs to get educated, get a job and save for the future. I have a feeling you will be picking up the pieces for the rest of your mom's life. That whole, "she falls, I pick her up" crap is not right. She was the adult and she dragged you through hell. If Missy had won the money, some guy in tv land would just find her, sweep her off her feet, and then spend that million because Missy would let him. Now Jacqlyn, don't let me hear you had some 30k wedding instead of putting that money to achieve your goal of having a child. Alec with his mouth open and Wes with his frog impression was hilarious.

Good catch, I did not notice that.

Goldfish-gate: We don't know if production called Will over and gave him those goldfish.

This is too funny! I would too!

TeeVee - I think Will has some special needs besides being a little person.

Orphan and foster children DO have food obsessions. Food is survival and orphans and foster children are only surviving. My sister adopted a brother/sister from foster care. She finally let them have their own refrigerator with their own healthy food in their room. She let them tell her when they would separate into their own rooms and she let them slowly move things to the kitchen fridge. I think both Bill and Jen are being very realistic and don't let some of the pitfalls really upset them. I know my sister was not quite as good about taking things personally.

They all seem like assholes to me. I think the "dark secret" is that Madison is a male. Violetta is trash. is she the one who doesn't wear a bra? I guess if your chest is that small you don't need a bra. Who wore the horrendous pink thing the first night? Someone needs to look in a mirror. Nichole could not be more stereo typical is she tried. Sometimes she talks normal and other times she puts on an act but it comes off as someone with a speech impediment.

Right? I have never seen such unlady like ladies.

I forgot to say in my first post - Peter is a bitch.