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Which needs to be remembered whilst we're in the thick of things. The FRC is named as a hate group by the esteemed Southern Poverty Law Center - it must never be forgotten.

Indeed. That said, here we are again, public posting seeking attention. This family will never get it, will they?

I'm quite positive that growing up a child of Rosie O'Donnell was not very stable - especially with all of her relationship changes during most of the kids' adolescent years. What I'm very inclined to think is that Rosie made sure that all of her kids were given access to whatever their needs might have been to work out their emotions about it all, based on everything she's ever said publicly about therapy and mental health. For the sake of argument, Chelsea is now stuck in a very small town, possibly hundreds of miles away from anyone qualified to make a judgement about her mental health needs. That's not judgmental or classist, it's most likely fact. Also, this small town is very isolated and in a very cold unforgiving climate with no malls or any other of the fun distractions that can help one get through a very long cold winter. I know, I live in a city with very similar climate, but living in a city I have access to all kinds of alternatives and hundreds of thousands of other people like me which accords anonymity along with opportunity for friendship. The point about all the kids her age leaving for college or other opportunities is very valid - that's what most 18 year olds are expected to do. There simply isn't much for Chelsea to do where she is, but of course get to know her birth-mom (who has been shown to be a tabloid seeker) and babysit her step-siblings.

The adds are up with Joy in them! Yay!!

I just think there are a lot of assumptions about kids and medications. Schools want kids medicated so parents that just roll over and allow a primary care physician to prescribe based on a teacher's observation are wrong. And then there is the fact that most folks aren't even aware of what could be wrong and don't go through a full neuropsychological evaluation to see what might give answers to learning and minor and/or major behavioral issues... There is overmedication and there is undermedication - but as I stated above, I don't think that Rosie is the type to just throw a child on medication without a full diagnosis and trying alternative therapies. Most educated parents do that - a lot of parents take a long time to be persuaded that medication might be the only answer. I tire of the meme that children are overmedicated getting thrown around when people don't have a full understanding of the science and the statistics, based on some anti-pharma or "gut" feeling.

Are you a parent?

Not "porn addicts" they are known for having a stash saved off somewhere on an external drive of some sort just in case their internet use gets cut off or monitored. I know this is a questionable addiction - but I'm speaking to the behavior that is associated with what is purported to be porn addiction. I'm not sure but I think his behavior going back to getting caught viewing porn on that campaign strongly suggests it. My opinion YMMV and all that.

Eeesh, that photo, asshole! 'Scuse my French.

No, but I do know that she wasn't photographed smoking until now. The cigarette openly displayed is just another sign of her rebellion. That birth-mom is A-OK with it is another sign that she's not so great - she should be encouraging the stop to that no matter her bullshit about stolen babies. I don't think for one god damned moment that Rosie would have allowed a child of hers to be medicated willy-nilly by some general practitioner on a hunch. If Chelsea was on meds that Rosie was concerned about her cold-turkeying off of, I believe a lot of thought went into medicating her with evidence of a real diagnosis. Now Chelsea is free to go to the default, self-medicate with some other substance. I don't think this is going to end well. I don't get it, every photo of Chelsea in the past she's smiling and happy - like to her eyes and not appearing to just fake it, I guess recently she was?

Nice proofreading Daily Mail! Sigh, I don't know what to say except I suspect this will play out as I thought it would. Already with the cigarette and the "no mental health issues". That was fast.

@HFC, you're not defensive, you just buried the lead by not updating us on the crazy cockamamie hare brained scheme of your nutso SIL's to mix it up with the dangerous criminal element in the country in his missionary work!

Chuckling, to piggyback on your comment @Andyourlittledog2 I offer: Samantha Bee on Morning Joe Sorry if this was previously linked but I just saw it.

I just found this group, I'm sure some of you are already sick of me! But, it was interesting to read the three pages in retrospect. I'm so sick of Luke popping up subbing for Andrea and elsewhere, I can't stand him. Thanks for the answers about what is happening with Up on the weekends with the Sharpton move. I'll never understand why MSNBC is dismantling the only somewhat left leaning crew, they'll never compete with CNN and Fox so I wish they'd just leave us lefties be with the little crumbs we have. The only time that the insufferable Chuck Todd was tolerable was when he was teamed up with Savanah Guthrie, but I suspected he'd get a show during this election season just as David Gregory had one in 2008. If only we could get the Maddow v Scarborough card part 2, that would be awesome since Rachel kicked Joe's ass! eta: the only "new" shining lights that I see on the network are Craig Melvin, Trymaine Lee and Ayman Mohyeldin.

Does anyone else get annoyed when Melissa Harris-Perry guests on this show and makes it a mini-version of her weekend show (which I thoroughly enjoy) - I find it unsettling because it's not the venue. I feel the same way when Kournacki guests. It always feels like they switch the show to their own production teams and it completely loses the feel of it being Rachel's show. Ari Melbar does a better job of keeping it "Rachel".

So now that I've sorted the nonsense about Sharpton in my head - he's moving to 8 a.m. on Sundays presumably taking out Up on MSNBC. Even Up with Steve Kournacki (as opposed to baby wonk Chris Hayes which/who is much better) is better than Al for crying out loud. Leave the shows UP and MHP alone!!!

Joshie made Real Time New Rules this week. Possibly NSFW.

This is a pray away the fill in the blank disorder rehab only. Thanks for taking one for the team CofCinci!

Ha! Those Whoopi favoring show runners sure love to run to the Daily Mail, don't they? I loooooove that Behar got the Friday moderator seat behind Whoopi's back. Make Sparks! ladies! Oh and the article refers to Sherri as a lead contributor not the lead contributor.

Sigh, I REPEAT!!!! Put Chris back where he was, he was sooooooooooooooooooooooo much better on Up than Kournacki is.

I sort of have to believe that Joy is going to be full-time or else why would they need so many right-wingish wackadoos? My disdain for Navarro falls just short of my disdain for Bure. I think Sherri will be supporting Hillary despite her foolishness because she was leaning her way before Obama made his splash because - WOMAN!

Laughs, remember the aspirin between the knees suggestion Foster Friess, Rick Santorum's billionaire supporter made to Andrea Mitchell last election cycle?

As a non-watcher but someone familiar with super-premies, I'd chalk any issues that Josie has up to developmental issues.

Question from a non-show watcher, are the little ones really that feral?

Chris Matthews was struggling with Hillary's comments last night as well - put me in Jennifer Grandholm's column - the GOP is being far far too extreme with women's reproductive rights and it's about damn time that our language starts calling them out for their extreme religious zealotry bullshit with strong language. And I don't hear Joe calling Ted Cruz out for saying that Obama wants to fund the terrorists. Joe's so full of crap and such a hypocrite it makes this show bad for my blood pressure. Shok, you have the right of it, if they aren't going to be less dishonest and unbalanced about politics they need to just do straight news and cover the big stories of the day more properly and with more depth.

Words, meanings. I tend to think of gender as fluid and sexuality as on a spectrum. I have no idea if this is up to the current standard definitions and can easily see sexuality fluidity replacing spectrum. I do believe that many of us older set and maybe the less thoughtful public at large confuse gender and sexuality altogether. My daughter is bisexual but has been in a heterosexual relationship with her first love since she was 14. She does attend an all women's college though and did have one incident of "cheating" being a little tipsy and kissing a girl she was attracted to who initiated it during a time that there was tension in her relationship. There is once again big tension (separations are hard on a relationship, and when there is a conflict with no resolution in sight - even harder) and she's a mess getting ready to go back to college and a ball of worry about all the "opportunity" at her school. Of course in this era, there is a good reason why the population at her school is largely lesbian, bisexual and transgender, it's a safe place for all that, as well as a place that provides opportunity for romance. Sexuality had zero influence on her decision to go there, but a strong sense of feminism and politics did. All that said, I'm as hetero normative as they come, lol. And I think the way we've addressed things socially at this point is good - the sexuality established at birth meme because it does keep the LGBTQI community safe from all this pray away therapy. I just hope in time that we can safely expand on it, because as I said I believe there is fluidity and spectrums that can be applied to gender, sexuality and even, I'm going to struggle for the word here but sexual desire? Some of us just want a lot more of it than others as well. Alcoholism as disease, or any addiction as disease. I think in many people addiction is arrived at by some means of self-medicating an underlying mental illness or personality disorder. This is just my opinion and not hard science. We know far too little about brains at this point - but I think it has to do with neurotransmitters and brain chemistry. At the half century mark, I'm pretty sure that I won't live to see this resolved. But because of my opinion, I think first line therapy for addiction belongs in a medically backed facility and secondary after care belongs in a group therapy type situation with an accredited therapist. As an adult child of alcoholics - I could never wrap my mind around AA because I am agnostic/atheist lite and always struggled with the issue of a "higher power" even though some just say it's themselves. eta: grammar, mine is terrible but my there/their/they're type mistakes are just lack of automaticity and proofreading well. And spell check doesn't cover grammar, ha!