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This.

But that would make no sense, if that's the spin they go for. Sara didn't choose to become the Canary - she did so in order to survive. And Laurel's BC name was taken from Sara's Canary name, not vice-versa. Etc., etc.

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Brilliant Speedy and Katana "Arrow" Concept Art by Andy Poon Thursday, September 24, 2015 - by Maurice Mitchell http://filmsketchr.blogspot.com/2015/09/brilliant-speedy-and-katana-arrow.html

From Behind the Mask thread: In giving Thea a love interest this season, the EPs have said that they wanted to explore the Oliver S1 storyline of someone balancing a secret superhero life with having a normal life. Quoting from EW and TVLine articles (posted on page 20 of Spoilers thread): MG: “Since season 1, we really haven’t done that much with Oliver trying to keep his secret identity secret on the show... But that’s something we’re going to be playing around with Thea as we get deeper into the season and she tries to balance hopefully a personal life with being a superhero - something she’s never had to deal with before.” WM: "[Thea] is going to have the challenge that Oliver had in the first season of, she’s now a superhero and she wants to have a normal life. She’s got this guy. How does she balance both of those things?" I think the EPs had the choice of going this love interest route with either Thea or Laurel, but not both, because it's basically the same problem - hiding your secret identity from your lover. However, both Thea and Laurel will be dealing with secret identity issues - just affecting different things. Quoting from TVLine article (posted on page 19 of Spoilers thread): WM: "She has a secret identity; how does she grapple with that? And she's an ADA, so what kind of impact is that going to have on her decisions as Black Canary - and vice versa?" So you're got the following storylines for them: Thea - effects of LP, and balancing secret superhero life with love life Laurel - Sara's resurrection, and balancing secret superhero life with work life If you gave the love interest to Laurel, then Thea's left with only the LP effects. (That's not to say they won't end up giving Laurel a love interest in the back half of S4.)

Replying in Spoiler Discussion thread.

I'm almost embarrassed to post this... This Is Stephen Amell Shirtless, and It'll Make You Swoon by Julie Chiem 9/29/15 http://www.popsugar.com/celebrity/Shirtless-Pictures-Stephen-Amell-38571173#photo-38571173

Once it's on the internet, it spreads like a virus. That new Firestorm pic has already been picked up by news media. For example: Legends Of Tomorrow: First Look At The New Firestorm BY ADAM HOLMES 15 HOURS AGO http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Legends-Tomorrow-First-Look-Firestorm-89057.html NEW FIRESTORM DEBUTS IN "THE FLASH" SEASON 2 PROMO Posted: 18 hours ago | Updated: 16 hours ago http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/new-firestorm-debuts-in-the-flash-season-2-promo

From TV Guide spoiler: Actually, isn't this her third chance, since this is the second time that Sara's come back from the dead?

http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/09/fox-upcoming-episode-press-releases_29.html

Here we go again (Felicity is currently in the lead)... USD POLL : Who is your favorite female character on the CW? Posted by Raina at Tuesday, September 29, 2015 http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/09/usd-poll-who-is-your-favorite-female.html ETA: Iris is now in the lead.

200 extras = 1 Atom suit?

https://twitter.com/ArrowProdOffice/status/648595354418589696

Regarding Laurel's learning curve, here's the exact spoiler: http://tvline.com/2015/08/17/once-upon-a-time-season-5-belle-merida-spoilers/

PB at Baltimore Comic Con on Sept. 26, 2015... Arrow Star Paul Blackthorne Talks Sarah's Return in Legends of Tomorrow at Baltimore Comic Con Published on Sep 29, 2015, by Film Fad

SA's live Q&A on Facebook (from yesterday)... https://www.facebook.com/stephenamell/videos/vb.146921975393078/930842833667651/?type=2&theater Related article... Stephen Amell Says CW DC Series Are "Basically One Show" Lucas Siegel- 09/29/2015 http://comicbook.com/2015/09/29/stephen-amell-says-cw-dc-series-are-basically-one-show/

So I just watched the "A Sneak Peek at Arrow Season 4" preview video and I got a lot from it... New or Expanded Scenes: -- Scene where Felicity feeds Oliver her cooked omelette, and he says "Felicity Smoak, you have failed this omelette." -- Scene where DD enters room where Quentin and other city officials are meeting and says to them, "If you have any friends or anyone who does love you, I suggest you say goodbye." -- Scene where a scared-looking young woman with hands tied who could be Jessica Danforth's daughter (played by Tiera Skovbye?) faces Lonnie Machin/Anarky, and then Speedy, GA, BC and Diggle crash down through the skylight. -- Scene at Palmer Tech where Felicity picks up a silver metal sphere, says "Oooh, what's this?", tosses it a few times, and then tosses the sphere to Curtis Holt. Curtis catches the sphere and says, "This is an autonomous communications device (puts sphere on metal pedestal) - which is great, except for the fact that it spontaneously explodes." -- Some shots of behind-the-scenes filming of LoT. -- Scene where Oliver is jogging in a nice suburban neighborhood, smiles and says "How're you doing?" to a neighbor mowing the lawn, and then heads up the driveway to his nice suburban home. -- Scene where Oliver says to Felicity, "Damien Darhk is in Starling City." -- Scene where Oliver/GA and Diggle are on a train, Oliver says "We need to stop the train", then Diggle says "Got any ideas?", and Oliver replies "Yeah, blow it up." WM Comments: -- WM: "When we find him at the start of season 4, Oliver is living in domestic bliss with Felicity... It's genuine. He's very happy with her. The city in the meantime has really declined and we're going to find out that there's big problems there that are going to draw him back. And even though he's kind of, you know, forsaken the Hood for the moment, it can't last for long cause they need him." -- WM: "We've really conceived season 4 as a fight between light and dark. We really want to think of Oliver this season as someone who is - who has a lot of faith in humanity and wants to step into the light, both as the Arrow and as Oliver Queen. But at the same time, he's going up against what we hope will be the most dangerous villain he's ever encountered." -- WM: "Damien Darhk has come to Starling City to be our Big Bad for this season and also wreak a lot of havoc. He's a former member of the League, but has taken his powers and his agenda into a much more modern and completely new level, and a very scary level. Damien's going to fight Oliver, and things are going to get pretty scary for him and Felicity." -- WM: "Oliver said at the end of season 3, 'I always intended to do this alone.' And now, he's not. And I think, although he's giving up a little bit of power in that way, he's also embracing the fact there are other people there to help him, and he's actually going to be open to letting other people help him." -- WM: "When we come back, Black Canary - everybody will have grown a bit, their skills will be more advanced. We'll really going to see the team on a whole different level, and Oliver's place in it is going to change as well." -- WM: "The season's going to be very much about Felicity and Digg. I mean, one of the other themes of the season is family, and how does Oliver kinda step into the light in a relationship with Felicity and also protect the people he loves. In the past, he's always said 'I can't be in love and be the Arrow at the same time'.(*) And this season, he's going to try to do both." (* This kinda clarifies for me why S2 Oliver told Felicity that he couldn't be with someone he "could really care about" and still be the Arrow, and then jumped right into a relationship with Sara - someone he clearly cared about. What he meant was that he couldn't fall in love and still be the Arrow.) -- WM: "Digg will be getting a costume - will be getting a very cool mask. He will have a code name." -- WM: "Felicity too will obviously step up. She's going to be a key figure at Palmer Tech. You know, Ray Palmer was killed in episode 323. Felicity will take over for Ray at Palmer Tech, as we saw in last season she signed a little piece of paper that gave her power over the company. And also she'll be a big force on the team, really stepping up. We're very excited about having Speedy, Black Canary and Felicity all working in the lair together." -- WM: "We have a couple of new characters that we're really excited about. The first is a new villain. We're going to bring in the Batman villain, Anarky. He's going to be a lot like Damien in that he's also sociopathic, but we're going to get the opportunity to really see the birth of a villain. We're going to really see what happens, why does Lonnie Machin become Anarky, what happens to him. And the cool thing about it is we're going to set it up so that it really is Oliver and, to some extent, Thea's fault that Lonnie Machin goes in the direction that he goes. And Lonnie will also blame Damien for a lot of what happens to him. So that he's going to be an interesting character in that he's opposed to both our Big Bad and our hero." -- WM: "Echo Kellum came into our audition and just blew us away. We knew immediately that this was the guy for the job... We needed someone who could go toe-to-toe with Felicity in terms of just the quickness, and the wit, and the fun lines... We're just excited to have him. He's going to be living mostly at Palmer Tech, but might be joining the team somewhere down the line." -- WM: "We're going to introduce some very cool characters in episode 408, one of whom will be Hawkman. This season, the crossover is going to be really the place where we launch Legends. It's going to be a very cool, exciting episode where we really see a couple members of the Legends team and their origin story - where they start, and how they get launched into this universe." -- WM: "This season Oliver is happier. For the first time since returning home, he is not in a sort of PTSD, post-war state of mind. He's now very hopeful and very optimistic for the future because he's in love. He is going to have a little bit more fun out in the field, but at the same time, he's going up against the most dangerous villain he's ever encountered. It's really a question of how he stays in the light and doesn't let himself get pulled back into that darkness, despite the kind of gravitas and nastiness of what Damien is trying to do to the city."

I found this really interesting (discussion from TV writers' perspective, MG does talk a little about Arrow and LoT)... Podcast of Nerdist Writers Panel on August 23, 2015, hosted by Ben Blacker, with Marc Guggenheim (co-creator, Arrow and Legends of Tomorrow), Corinne Marshall (School of Rock; Surviving Jack; creator, KC Undercover), Evan Bleiweiss (Rosewood; Matador; The Shield), and Laura Valdivia (Hot and Bothered; Weird Loners; Ben & Kate) Tue, 29 September 2015 (recorded August 23, 2015) http://nerdistwriters.libsyn.com/guggenheim (click on "nwp222_guggenheim.mp3" to listen) (length is 1:30:40)

Oliver and Barry really have a great dynamic - I love it... Barry: "If it helps, Cisco's been calling you Vixen. Not that Cisco is the name of anyone affiliated with me. He's not. I mean, if there was a Cisco affiliated with me. - which there isn't. Oliver: "Were you and Felicity separated at birth? Barry: "I hope not - cuz if we had been, that kiss would've been weird. Oliver: "You kissed her?" Barry: "You know what? I gotta run."

VIdeo of portion of KC's panel at Baltimore Comic Con on Sep. 27, 2015 (warning: spoilery)... Baltimore Comic Con: Kate Cassidy Published on Sep 28, 2015, by Fangirl Review

Another sure-to-be controversial list (he puts Arrow at #5 and The Flash at #1)... The Comics 8 Ball: Top 8 Comic Book TV Shows September 28, 2015 | Posted by Anthony Kennedy http://411mania.com/movies/the-comics-8-ball-top-8-comic-book-tv-shows/

Maya Mani talks costume designs for the new GA suit and Felicity's CEO look... COSTUME SECRETS FROM THE UPCOMING SEASONS OF 'REIGN,' 'THE GOOD WIFE' AND MORE Plus, teasers from 'Arrow' and 'The Flash' designer on her superhero costumes 2.0. FAWNIA SOO HOO AN HOUR AGO http://fashionista.com/2015/09/fall-tv-costume-design-october

From Laura Hurley (her argument against the above-posted Design&Trend article)... Devil’s Advocate #6: Why Oliver And Felicity Should Definitely Get Married Sep 27, 2015 5:25 pm http://laurawritesabout.tumblr.com/post/130014771436/devils-advocate-6-why-oliver-and-felicity

Most of this interview is about KL's new movie, Death Valley, but I've quoted the Arrow part... THE HOTTIE STOP INTERVIEWS KATRINA LAW STAR OF ARROW AND DEATH VALLEY! 19 minutes agoby: Eric Walkuski http://www.joblo.com/hollywood-celebrities/gossip/the-hottie-stop-interviews-katrina-law-star-of-arrow-and-death-valley-290

Another online poll... USD POLL : What storylines are you most looking forward to in Arrow Season 4? Posted by Raina at Monday, September 28, 2015 http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/09/usd-poll-what-storylines-are-you-most.html