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I wanted to quote the entire article, but couldn't - so I just recommend going to the link... 'Arrow': 4 Reasons Why the Oliver and Felicity Break-Up Is Really Dumb Wednesday, March 30, 2016 Derek Stauffer http://www.buddytv.com/articles/arrow/arrow-4-reasons-why-the-oliver-59426.aspx It's Reductive NOT Productive Felicity Isn't Going Anywhere Other Love Interests Don't Work No One Thinks It Will Last

Vulture review of 417... Arrow Recap: Plan Bee By Jenny Raftery March 31, 2016 9:18 a.m. http://www.vulture.com/2016/03/arrow-recap-season-4-episode-17.html

How Arrow Just Set Up A Team Arrow Replacement For Whoever Is In The Grave BY LAURA HURLEY 10 HOURS AGO http://www.cinemablend.com/television/How-Arrow-Just-Set-Up-Team-Arrow-Replacement-Whoever-Grave-128067.html

This reviewer called 417 a "palate cleanser" before the impending doom... Arrow "Beacons of Hope" Review: Humor Bee By Noel Kirkpatrick 9 hours ago http://www.tv.com/shows/arrow/community/post/arrow-season-4-episode-17-beacons-of-hope-review-145911433961/

Who knew that Oliver and Laurel had a "long-smoldering romance"?... 'Arrow’ Recap: “Beacon of Hope” – A Campy Turn Delivers Unintentional Laughs BY DAVE TRUMBORE 10 HOURS AGO http://collider.com/arrow-recap-beacon-of-hope/

'Arrow' Brings Back Emily Kinney's Bug-Eyed Bandit in Buzz-Worthy Filler Episode "Beacon of Hope" shows maybe 'Arrow' isn't that far gone after all. Eric Francisco March 31, 2016 https://www.inverse.com/article/13573-arrow-brings-back-emily-kinney-s-bug-eyed-bandit-in-buzz-worthy-filler-episode

Two Examiner critics' reviews of 417... 'Arrow' 4x17 'Beacon of Hope' Review: Return of the bees (4/5 stars) Allison Nichols March 30, 2016 8:18 PM MST http://www.examiner.com/review/arrow-4x17-beacon-of-hope-review-return-of-the-bees 'Arrow' recap: Bee-ing hopeful Meredith Jacobs March 30, 2016 9:38 PM MST http://www.examiner.com/article/arrow-recap-bee-ing-hopeful

Comparisons to The Flash made... Arrow recap: 'Beacon of Hope' BY JONATHON DORNBUSH Posted March 30 2016 http://www.ew.com/recap/arrow-season-4-episode-17

If Curtis were to replace Felicity on the team permanently, and if the show were to head toward an O/L reunion, then I'd stop watching Arrow (why is it so hard for people to accept Felicity as more than just a quirky one-liner character?!)... You won’t BEE-lieve how fun tonight’s Arrow is Because it’s *never* too early for bee puns By Alasdair Wilkins Mar 30, 2016 9:40 PM http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/you-wont-bee-lieve-how-fun-tonights-arrow-234589

If I shipped Oliver and Laurel, then this episode (417) would be a cruel raising of my hopes - to be crushed next week, assuming Laurel is the big death. As for Laurel dying, I'll still believe it when I actually see it. I think HIVE is going to be based in Monument Point.

Honestly, I"m not sure how I feel about this episode. I should love it - but I think I'm still feeling residual bitterness over the BMD/breakup contrivance and the writers' throwing Felicity under the bus. On the one hand, it bothers me that Curtis is apparently also a computer hacker (in addition to his many other skills) and can so easily slot into Felicity's place on the team. On the other hand, having Curtis available to help makes it less likely that Felicity will be blamed for endangering the team members by quitting it. In any event, even with Curtis, the team just isn't the same without Felicity. There's a certain cohesion that's missing. I don't necessarily think that Paul is marked for death, but maybe their marriage is marked for death. Curtis has started lying to him about what he's doing. Maybe Felicity will have a talk with Curtis about the costs and risks of lying to your spouse, but Curtis gets so excited about helping out the team that he doesn't listen and his marriage suffers as a result. The use of the episode name was really heavy-handed. Do Laurel and Thea have the same phrase-of-the-day desk calendar? How likely is it that they would both use the same phrase "beacon of hope" on the same day (to inspire Oliver and Felicity)? If I shipped Oliver and Laurel, then this episode would be a beacon of hope for me that the show is headed toward their reunion in the future. (See, I can do it too.) Man oh man, it was made so clear that Laurel still has feelings for Oliver, with her little touches and her "I'm here for you" speech. So who's taking advantage now?* (* I know that the O/L scenes could also be interpreted as Laurel just being a supportive friend. But Laurel is not a real touchy-feely person, so those caressing face and arm touches seemed extra special - and also inappropriate for someone who is supposed to be Felicity's friend as well. Also, we didn't see an "I'm here for you speech" from Laurel to Felicity, so again it seemed like she was just cozying up to Oliver.) Incidentally, when Laurel urged Oliver to save some hope for himself, I don't think she was referring to his relationship with Felicity. I think she was referring to his expressed fear that he would have to go dark again in order to defeat the darkness. So Oliver is now blaming Felicity for dragging him away from his happy life in Ivy Town and bringing him back to fighting in Star City. Step up, Oliver, and take responsibility for your own actions! He blames himself when he shouldn't, but he doesn't blame himself when he should. When Felicity was threatened by the Beeman and Brie said something like, "I guess the Green Arrow didn't forget you," I wonder if Oliver's "Never" was a SA ad lib? I did like that Felicity broke the lamp and used the open electrical end like a bug zapper to take down the Beeman. I don't think that Felicity knows that Thea encouraged Oliver to continue lying to her. My head canon says that Thea's feeling a little guilty about it and that's why she tried to convince Felicity to rejoin the team. I wonder if Donna's line about wearing flats from now on because of all the running was some snark at Jurassic World (where Bryce Dallas Howard ran around in heels)? So Andy Diggle really is evil and has been playing John Diggle? Looks like he'll be the cause of another fight between Oliver and Diggle. Oh, how I miss the days of Original Team Arrow working together to fight crime! With the way the Palmer Tech board members always diss Felicity, while she keeps saving their lives, I hope the season ends with the board voting to rename the company Smoak Technologies. P.S. The flashback clothes are really unflattering to both SA and ER.

Hans Zimmer retiring from scoring superhero films after Batman v Superman BY ANDREA TOWERS Posted March 30 2016 — 3:11 PM EDT http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/30/hans-zimmer-retiring-superhero-films

Bad news - Sam Heughan beat SA to win Alpha Male Madness 2016 (with 57%)... Alpha Male Madness 2016 Has a Winner: Who Is TV's Most Beloved Actor? by LAUREN PIESTER Wed, Mar 30, 2016 3:00 PM http://www.eonline.com/news/752242/alpha-male-madness-2016-has-a-winner-who-is-tv-s-most-beloved-actor

Grant Gustin, Nick Robinson Starring in William H. Macy’s ‘Krystal’ Dave McNary MARCH 29, 2016 | 12:55PM PT http://variety.com/2016/film/news/grant-gustin-william-h-macy-directing-krystal-1201740671/

'Arrow' S04E16: What needs to happen next after 'Broken Hearts' Laura Hurley March 30, 2016 9:48 AM MST http://www.examiner.com/article/arrow-s04e16-what-needs-to-happen-next-after-broken-hearts

GB is getting another award... Greg Berlanti, Ilene Chaiken to Be Honored by Alliance of Women Directors Dave McNary MARCH 30, 2016 | 08:00AM PT http://variety.com/2016/film/news/greg-berlanti-ilene-chaiken-alliance-of-women-directors-1201741662/

Here's what bothered me about that MTV clip... Oliver seems to be completely over the breakup already. Laurel is talking to Felicity off-screen and tip-toeing around Oliver's feelings like Oliver is some sensitive soul that's been injured. Thea is going to tell her boyfriend to hit up Felicity for a job after Thea was the one to encourage Oliver to continue lying to Felicity. And Diggle seems completely indifferent because apparently Oliver should just wait until Felicity "comes around" (like she's the one in the wrong). Not to mention, I thought the Voldemort/Harry Potter jokes were totally lame.

I really hate how the rest of Team Green Arrow continues to be all Team Oliver. And that MTV clip makes it sound like Felicity continues to be the 'villain' in the breakup. I wouldn't blame her for never going back.

This is interesting - Cammien Ray interviewed a 51-year-old male martial arts instructor who loves Arrow and Olicity (I've quoted portions but recommend reading the entire interview)... The toughest Olicity fan: 10 questions with Barron Shepherd March 29, 2016 http://smoakandarrow.tumblr.com/post/141914588119/the-toughest-olicity-fan-10-questions-with-barron (larger print) or http://cammienray.tumblr.com/post/141913899078/the-toughest-olicity-fan-10-questions-with-barron (original source)

The 13 Hottest Ships Giving Us Life On TV Right Now By Amie Marie Bohannon ⋅ Posted on March 29th, 2016 at 7:43pm http://moviepilot.com/posts/3824850

'Arrow' S04E16: What didn't work in 'Broken Hearts' Laura Hurley March 30, 2016 7:01 AM MST http://www.examiner.com/article/arrow-s04e16-what-didn-t-work-broken-hearts

I don't believe this article was posted previously... Of Internalized Misogyny, Felicity Smoak, and the Importance of "Real" Fictional Female Characters JustAboutWrite (Jenn) March 28, 2016 http://www.itsjustaboutwrite.com/2016/03/of-internalized-misogyny-felicity-smoak.html

With the way this season's been going, Poppy will probably be in 420, 421, 422 and 423!

Maybe Poppy dies in the same episode as Laurel (assuming Laurel is the big death)? We know ER was on the set on Feb. 23, which was the last shooting day for 418.