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The EPs could always change their minds - but this is what they previously said regarding the seriousness of the Big Death and about using time travel or other devices to revoke a death...

I wonder if the EPs had to negotiate KC's departure for contractual reasons. Like maybe one of the stipulations was that Laurel would be the only Black Canary on Arrow - ever? I'm not surprised that they're keeping the door open for some version of her to return.

I said once that I think if they kill off Laurel/BC - yes, yes, I still can't believe it - then they won't leave Olicity fans happy either at the end of S4 - no happy O&F reunion. Instead, it'll be a cliffhanger ending that leaves the team completely or partly separated, with one or more characters' fates unknown. I think that whether or not the EPs bring back Laurel next season, as her Earth 2 Black Canary doppelganger, will depend on the severity of the reaction to her death on Arrow and its effect on ratings this season.

I've decided to drop Forbes reviewer Erik Kain from my regular media checklist. I don't mind when reviewers write something that I disagree with (reasoned debate is healthy), but I don't want to help promote their articles/webpages when they make no sense whatsoever and rely on reddit(!) to make a point. Then you lose all credibility with me. However, if any of you wish to keep up with Erik Kain's Arrow episode reviews, here are the links - enjoy!... http://www.forbes.com/search/?q=arrow https://twitter.com/erikkain

Since it was discussed, I just posted the Canadagraphs tweets in the Spoilers thread...

I guess that's the Quentin crossover to LoT. According to the gravestone, Laurel dies in 2016, when she's 30 or 31 years old (depending on her birthday month), which makes her the same age as Oliver. Maybe Quentin is the one who takes her to the hospital, thereby preserving the rest of the team's secret identities. For all we know, Star City erects a statue to Black Canary to stand in City Hall (as their beacon of hope).

Yet another reviewer having fun with bee puns... Arrow Season 4: 12 Big Questions After ‘Beacon Of Hope’ James Hunt 31 March 2016 http://whatculture.com/tv/arrow-season-4-12-big-questions-after-beacon-of-hope.php

Why Grant Gustin Should Not Be The Flash In The Movies JOHNNY BRAYSON 2 hours ago http://www.bustle.com/articles/151292-why-grant-gustin-should-not-be-the-flash-in-the-movies

The #DCTV Secrets of ARROW: Ep 4.17 "Beacon of Hope" By Amy Ratcliffe Wednesday, March 30th, 2016 http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2016/03/30/the-dctv-secrets-of-arrow-ep-417-beacon-of-hope

L.A. Times' review of 417 is largely negative but still thought it "brought a necessary injection of fun to the series after weeks of doom and gloom"... Arrow's 'Beacon of Hope' is an un-bee-lievably campy effort James Queally March 31, 2016 http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-hc-arrow-beacon-of-hope-recap-20160331-story.html

Forbes reviewer Erik Kain is getting tedious in his dislike for Olicity - we get it, you hate Felicity now (Question: should I keep posting his Arrow reviews or drop him?)... Even A Good Episode Of 'Arrow' Is Still Dragged Down By Olicity Nonsense Erik Kain MAR 31, 2016 @ 03:11 PM 167 VIEWS http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/03/31/even-a-good-episode-of-arrow-is-still-dragged-down-by-olicity-nonsense/#42d8344671c5

If the person who's dying next week is being given a time of death in a hospital, then that person must've been wearing civilian clothes when injured. Otherwise, their secret identity would be revealed. I doubt they would take the time to change the person's clothes if they're rushing to the hospital. That would mean the person is either a non-masked character or a masked character who was not in costume at the time. For example, assuming Laurel is the big death - if she was the BC when critically injured, then she would've been rushed to the hospital while wearing the BC suit. And the others probably couldn't have taken the time to change their superhero suits as well. That would mean everyone would know that Laurel was the BC, and most likely everyone else's secret identities would be exposed as well. Therefore, in order to keep the superhero identities secret, the dying person would have to be wearing regular clothes when injured. That would support maybe something happening like a ticking time bomb in a public place, targeted at one or both of the Lances. Or, if we go solely by those promo pics, it happens in the Arrowcave while Laurel is in civilian clothes. Again, assuming the big death is Laurel, and not Quentin, Diggle or someone else. On a superficial note, it does look like SA has trimmed down some (not that he was ever overweight, just bulkier). Maybe he only super bulked up for his SummerSlam match with Stardust? ETA: After seeing the gravestone screenshot posted below, it looks like injured Laurel will be taken to the hospital while in her BC costume, thus exposing her secret identity to the world. If that is the case, I assume the circumstances are such that everyone else's secret identities are still protected.

Review: ‘Arrow’ Lights a ‘Beacon of Hope,’ or ‘Die Hard With Robot Bees’ Kevin Fitzpatrick | 11 hours ago http://screencrush.com/arrow-beacon-of-hope-review/

Two lengthy and in-depth reviews of 417... HOLDING ONTO THE LIGHT: BEACON OF HOPE 4X17 REVIEW jbuffyangel MARCH 31, 2016 @ 06:36 http://jbuffyangel.tumblr.com/post/142008171168/holding-onto-the-light-beacon-of-hope-4x17-review Arrow 4x17 Review: "Beacon of Hope" (#LadiesSupportingLadies) Just About Write 7:01 PM http://www.itsjustaboutwrite.com/2016/03/arrow-4x17-review-beacon-of-hope.html

IGN's mixed review of 417... ARROW: "BEACON OF HOPE" REVIEW BY JESSE SCHEDEEN 30 MAR 2016 http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/03/31/arrow-beacon-of-hope-review

Gasp! - A negative review of 417 (scored it Average)... Arrow 4.17 Review – ‘Beacon of Hope’ March 30, 2016 | Posted by Anthony Falco http://411mania.com/movies/arrow-4-17-review-beacon-of-hope/

Still on the low side. It'll be interesting to see next week's ratings.

Blastr reviewer thought that 417 was a "stellar entry"... Curtis is awesome as the Bug-Eyed Bandit returns in the latest Arrow Trent Moore Thu, Mar 31, 2016 9:58am http://www.blastr.com/2016-3-31/curtis-awesome-bug-eyed-bandit-returns-latest-arrow

Everyone loved 417, even the usually super snarky WeMinoredInFilm... ARROW’S “BEACON OF HOPE” (S4:E17): INSERT BEE PUN HERE Posted on March 31, 2016 by Kelly Konda http://weminoredinfilm.com/2016/03/31/arrows-beacon-of-hope-s4e17-insert-bee-pun-here/

DC's TV shows are currently leading with 53%... Poll: DC Cinematic Universe v. DC TV Universe Posted by Josh Zyber - March 31, 2016 http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/dc-cinematic-universe-tv-universe-poll/

BuddyTV review of 417... 'Arrow' Recap: The Bug-Eyed Bandit Makes For a Honey of an Episode Derek Stauffer March 30, 2016 http://www.buddytv.com/articles/arrow/arrow-recap-felicity-fights-fo-59430.aspx

I don't think that Donna's strength is being a victim (btw, in a separate article, Carissa says that the voice giving time of death in the promo was Laurel's)... Arrow Season 4 Episode 17 Review: Beacon of Hope Carissa Pavlica at March 30, 2016 10:22 pm. Updated at March 31, 2016 5:37 am http://www.tvfanatic.com/2016/03/arrow-season-4-episode-17-review-beacon-of-hope/

Kayti Burt gave 417 a score of 3.5 out of 5 stars... Arrow: Beacon of Hope Review Kayti Burt 3/30/2016 at 10:12PM http://www.denofgeek.us/tv/arrow/254166/arrow-beacon-of-hope-review

Another positive review for 417... 'Arrow' Recap: 'We're In a Die Hard Movie With Bees' Robert Chan March 30, 2016 https://www.yahoo.com/tv/arrow-recap-bug-eyed-bandit-brie-larvan-andy-032343045.html

Robert Dougherty gave 417 a score of 7 out of 10... Arrow S4: E17 -- 'Beacon of Hope' By Robert Dougherty March 31, 2016 08:42AM EDT http://www.themovienetwork.com/review/arrow-s4-e17-beacon-hope