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Agents of GEEK Podcast Episode 27
Posted on 05/06/2016 http://agentsofgeekpodcast.com/wordpress/
-- Craig said that this was a better episode than what we've gotten in awhile, esp. since the show came back from its long hiatus.
-- Tatiana was even mad that they had to mention Laurel at all: "Can't we just be done with Laurel? Completely. We don't have to mention her at all. Is that wrong? Is that mean?" Craig: "Well, you wish. But no, not especially."
-- Tatiana thought that, especially after last week, this episode was "light years above" what she felt they'd be getting, and a big contributor to that was the fact that there was no Laurel and there was no island flashback. Also, we got some "old school" Oliver & Felicity stuff. Craig added that seeing Diggle & Lyla together "has always been fun." Tatiana: "She's so kickass... She's a f^ckin' badass."
-- Craig and Tatiana did have one point of contention. Craig said Oliver learned that the way to combat DD's darkness was to "think happy thoughts." Tatiana disagreed and said that it wasn't that simple and that it's like "the whole basis of the Jedi... if he thinks about fear or anger or hurt, that's just gonna overtake his being. It's not just thinking happy thoughts - it's pushing aside all the negative, you know what I mean? It's more pushing aside the negative than thinking happy thoughts... Especially for someone like Ollie, who we saw in that f*cking flash - like, has so much negative sh*t - to be able to overcome that, even if it is because he's thinking about Felicity's voice - which, by the way, 'swoon' - um, that just shows how strong... He's kinda denied it for so long, but those relationships are so strong that the positivity of those relationships... can outweigh all the negative darkness stuff that he flashed on before." She added: "It's like soul-weighing. It's not like he's just thinking about riding a bike or like, 'I flew a kite, that made me happy.' No, he's thinking about real f*ckin' sh*t... that is the positive light in his soul, through these relationships in his life that have kinda helped him come out of this Island Oliver. That's been the topic all year, especially in the breakup... 'how can he become someone who's not Island Oliver?'" Tatiana noted that it was Felicity telling him that she was angry when she told him he could never change from Island Oliver and that he has changed "that brought it all around." Craig said that the episode made it seem like Oliver just had hear Felicity's voice in his head to enable him to get the light magic. Tatiana said that it wasn't just that, but Oliver also thought of his relationship with Diggle and with his sister. Craig added "and Laurel". Tatiana: "Stop mentioning her f*ckin' name!
-- Tatiana objected to keeping Baby Sara in a truck that just keeps driving around all the time.
-- Craig and Tatiana laughed over Thea & Alex's vacation destination: "Who goes on a romantic getaway to the g*dd*mn suburbs?" That should have been the first thing to make Thea suspicious.
-- Craig: "Darhk's plan is essentially a twist on Samuel L. Jackson's plan in Kingsmen: The Secret Service... They're gonna cull humanity in order to save the planet. In Kingsmen, they found a way to control people's minds to make them beat each other and kill them, while the protected group were in little pockets around the world. When the 90% kill each other, this elite 10% will start over again and let the planet heal itself. Darhk's plan is sorta the same way, except he's gonna use nukes - which makes no sense because, yes, nukes will get the job done, but it will also, like, cause nuclear winter for 10,000 years and all kinds of radioactive fallout. So basically, they would turn themselves into mole people because they would have to stay in that dome. And how the hell is that dome gonna power itself?"
-- They noted that Damien Darhk is the "nicest bad guy ever" because he gave the heroes a break of several weeks but now it's time for him to go full throttle.
-- They were both down on Andy Diggle for shooting at a truck with a baby inside.
-- Tatiana asked "how many times can you mention Constantine without bringing Constantine back?" She suggested saying "Constantine" a hundred times "rapid-fire". Craig added "like Beetlejuice."
-- Craig was glad that now they can move forward and make a plan. He said that between the stuff they did with the LoT set-up and all the breaks they've taken, the Darhk storyline has been "so haphazard" and he's so ready for the Darhk story to be done and over. Tatiana asked if maybe NM was too expensive to get for every episode. Craig said that he thought a "guest star" was limited to a certain number of episodes per season, which is why they brought in Ruve Darhk.
Nyssa and Felicity in last night's LoT episode (flashback scenes with Sara and Ray)...
